Great footballer – just not a great halfback
By Andrew Logan, 10 Jul 2007 Andrew Logan is a Roar Expert
A respected rugby analyst was heard to say of George Gregan last week that “He is a great footballer, just not a great halfback” – a wonderfully pithy insight into the debate that rages around a player who is perhaps the greatest ever servant of Australian rugby.
Australian halfbacks are a durable breed, and amazingly, this position in the Test team has been overwhelmingly occupied by just 4 players in the last 47 years – Ken Catchpole, John Hipwell, Nick Farr Jones and George Gregan (with honourable mentions to Rod Hauser and Peter Slattery).
Of all of the above, Gregan is the only one to have attracted the constant sniping in the latter part of his career, whereas the others statures continued to grow. Catchpole’s stellar career was effectively ended by an act of thuggery when he was at the height of his powers (footage of which makes a mockery of Colin Meads’ impotent protestations of innocence). Hipwell played over a decade of Wallaby rugby and is still lauded for his fast flat pass, and Farr Jones was called out of retirement to face the All Blacks, such was his aura. Gregan, on the other hand, has often been seen as dispensable.
Why is this? It is no coincidence that calls for Gregan’s head began around the same time that Richard Harry, Phil Kearns, Michael Foley and Andrew Blades departed the Test scene. The Australian scrum was no longer a weapon, and all of a sudden, the physically dominant half with the pedestrian pass was struggling to distribute quality ball behind a backpedalling pack.
Paradoxically, it was Gregan who kept his beaten pack in many of these games, through his referee mind games, and a crafty delay of feed into shaky scrums. Where a more conventional halfback may have shut up and fed the scrum, George talked, protested, delayed, accused and generally marshalled a set of oft beaten troops into results far better than they deserved. For this alone he deserves better treatment than that meted out to him by the rugby populace.
But for all players and positions there is a skill which is bread and butter. For an open-side it is the breakdown; for a prop, the scrum; for a winger, finding the tryline; and for a halfback, the pass. Unfortunately for Gregan, his strongest and weakest points polarised further behind a beaten pack. His pass looked worse, but his ability to lead became crucial.
And so the quandary manifests. Are we better off playing a great leader with a slow pass, or a capable player with a fast one?
There are arguments both ways. Alan Jones once consoled would-be Wallaby half Brian Smith with this gem about Nick Farr-Jones, saying that Farr-Jones was “not there because he is a better player than you – but because the others play better when he is there”. The same could be said of Gregan – that the others play better when he is there.
However, the damning evidence is a little too clear. Last Saturday night, the Gregan pass put Australia under pressure. One pass actually bounced before it reached the man. A crucial Giteau clearing kick was delayed because a pass which should have arrived on Giteau’s left, arrived about 3 feet to his right. The bread and butter skill of the halfback was not in evidence.
Australia’s only hope of a win in France is to put the ball in the hands of its backs as quickly as possible. It must plan to do this knowing that it has a forward pack which will struggle for parity against every major rugby nation. Our only hope is a fast, flat pass off the ground, which unfortunately, is about the only weapon not in the formidable Gregan armoury.
Calling for George’s head is a little like campaigning against Mandela or Mother Teresa. He deserves better. But rugby is a team game, and the decision which is best for the team must be taken. Soon, the Wallabies will have to conjure up a new talisman to cajole them to victory anyway, since Gregan will be gone. It is time for the new leaders to emerge.
Whoever succeeds Gregan as halfback, it is unlikely that there will ever be a better footballer.
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July 10th 2007 @ 8:03pm
Darryl said | July 10th 2007 @ 8:03pm | Report comment
I think the biggest compliment we Saffers could pay to George Gregan, is that we hate him.
Why do we hate him? Because we hate to see him playing against us. We know that when he plays, the Wallabies are a better team. We know he’ll bring experience, skill and leadership to the Wallaby team playing on that day.
We hate him because he’s always whining at the ref. Whine, whine, whine, whine. Why do we hate that? Because we know he’s really good at it, and he’ll undoubtedly unsettle the ref and get some calls to go against us.
We hate him because we’d much rather he were playing on our side. Most likely my fellow Saffers will post a comment here disagreeing with me, but that’s only because they hate him.
July 10th 2007 @ 9:17pm
Bradley Udemans said | July 10th 2007 @ 9:17pm | Report comment
Australians are a very fickle bunch. Gregan still has the skills. you guys have the worst pack in world rugby but still win! its a wonder Gregan can even get the ball out. It may be a bit controversial to note though that Gregan never got the respect from Oz because he is a black (not polynesian neighbour) zambian? GREGAN FOR PRIME MINISTER!!!!
July 10th 2007 @ 9:37pm
sheek said | July 10th 2007 @ 9:37pm | Report comment
Okay, I’ve said it myself – Gregan is a great rugby player, not necessarily a great scrumhalf.
Of the 4 scrumhalfs mentioned above, I would rank them in their chronological order – Catchpole (27T, 1961-68), Hipwell (35T,1968-82), Farr-Jones (63T, 1984-93) & Gregan (135-plus Tests, 1994-2007).
Catchpole’s career ended just before my time, although I saw him play some club matches for Randwick in 1971. Hipwell is the best Wallaby scrumhalf I’ve seen since 1970.
He was considered not far behind Gareth Edwards, while rarely playing behind the dominant packs the Welshman enjoyed. Off the top of my head I can’t recall a scrumhalf who could use bad ball more effectively. And Hippy got plenty of practise behind weak Wallaby packs in the 60s & 70s!
Most pundits would put Farr-Jones second behind Catchpole, but not me, I go with Hippy. Nevertheless, F-J was good, very good. Played like a 9th forward. Was particularly sharp early in his career, darting from the scrumbase. Did everything well.
Gregan? What shall we do with a problem like Gregan? An enigma. Great player, not so great scrumhalf. But a great Australian!
The comment, “that the others play better is when he’s there” (in reference to F-J by Alan Jones), is also the reason why Mark Ella is my first choice all-time Wallaby flyhalf.
July 10th 2007 @ 11:06pm
Joshua Carmody said | July 10th 2007 @ 11:06pm | Report comment
Bradley Udemans
Keep your stupid (and I mean low- IQ argument) and pathetic assumptions to yourself. They’re really not worth blathering out to the rest of us. Pull up the standards or shut it.
George Gregan has been a Wallaby captain because he has deserved to be. He’s got a truckload of respect in Australia. As a human being, a leader, as a fantastic father. And more so.
The truth be told, Udemans, I was appalled by a number of SA supporters and their vile screeching at the screen in the pub on the weekend. The comments made by SA supports about your own black players made the whole experience really really unpleasant. I came out of the pub in a kind of sad stupor.
I’ve never heard that from New Zealanders, Welsh, English, Australians…the entire list of rugby supporters apart from, you guessed it, South African supporters. The world has moved on from the dire days of white-supremicist bullshit. Time to wake up, don’t ya think? You need to be very honest with yourself – your opinion about Australians is based on your own ugly ideas.
Joshua.
July 11th 2007 @ 12:09am
Darryl said | July 11th 2007 @ 12:09am | Report comment
Joshua, while I don’t align myself with Bradley Udemans comments, what makes you assume he’s South African? If you know this from other threads then my apologies, but if not, erm, finger pointing back at you mate.
Regardless, I agree with your sentiment. I think the rules of this site would dictate that we all leave the politics to the politicians and stick to the subject of rugby. I don’t think anybody should be pointing fingers quite honestly, regardless of where you’re from. Even Aus and NZ have their own historical ‘issues’ when it comes to this touchy subject.
July 11th 2007 @ 1:14am
sportym said | July 11th 2007 @ 1:14am | Report comment
George Gregan reminds me of Steve waugh, and this is in relation to his leadership skills. When he is on the field there is a certain vibe within the team. If we are to win the RWC, I believe Gregan has to be on the field.
The problem is with certain Journos in Oz, and in particular Greg Growden, this guy must hate Gregan with a passion. Wallabies win or loose, Gregan copes a hammering. Maybe Greg should focus on where the real problem resides in the wallabies squad, a weak forward pack. DO you actually watch these games greg, or do you just wait for gregan to make a mistake??? Start taking notes everytime our pack is going backwards.
There were two articles that made me loose respect for Rugby in Oz, one by Growden, at the end of the Super 14, stating that Australia had a horrible Super 14 in 2007….shows how much the Brumbies and Western Force matter, IF the waratahs have a awful season, Oz Rugby has an aweful season. Your a joke Greg.
The second one was made by O’neill when he took over, he said that he watched alot of good super 14 games played in 2007, but none of them involved Australian teams, ummmm, as he is taking over, maybe someone should point out to him that the Brumbies and Force are acutually Oz teams, and they had some great victories in 2007 (Force unbeaten in SA, and brumbies beat the sharks and crusaders), both just missing out on the semis.
Also I would like to mention JP. Here is another guy that has done his service to the wallabies. I have no issues if the selectors/press came out and said they he was not selected in the wallabies squad with a valid reason, but to be told that he was not selected due to form, Now that is extremely insulting. Maybe our selectors/press do not watch the Super14 games, as he was the stand out hooker.
Though we must select our players on form…..in that case could someone please explain how JP gets told he is out of the squad due to bad form this year and not having played since may, and on the other side, Latham is to get a call up against the ABs, beacuse of?
A: His form in the Super 14 this year
B: Cause he played last Sat?
Really shameful how JP has been treated, ARU will offer Leagies who cannot score a try millions, but do not stand by thier own….rugyby in Oz is in trouble.
Sorry for getting off the point though.
George, thanks for the years of great service!!!!
July 11th 2007 @ 10:16am
Andrew Logan said | July 11th 2007 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Darryl,
Agree with your call for caution,.
I’d like to reinforce my own considerable respect for George Gregan as a person, a rugby player and guardian of Australian rugby values.
And yes sportym, of course the problem is with the Australian pack, however, as sheek mentioned re Hipwell, a halfback with a fast flat pass can camouflage some of the packs inadequacies, until such time as we build forward strength. It is easier to slot in a fast half, than to turn up a whole new hard-as-nails pack overnight.
Andrew Logan.
July 11th 2007 @ 10:26am
Phil said | July 11th 2007 @ 10:26am | Report comment
I have two theories on Mr. Gregan…
1) The only player that could have seriously challenged him for his spot in the 90′s broke his neck twice. Matt Issac was a better player than Chris Whitaker and was always viewed a serious threat to Gregan’s time at the top. He was an amazing player and leader, much like Gregan. He had an amazing pass though, much better than Gregan’s.
2) Who put their hand up to replace him in the current decade?
Two many people read Greg Growden ( I stopped when I was about 13) and no one understands the essence of a forward pack getting driven back, as mentioned above.
July 11th 2007 @ 11:00am
Zac Zavos said | July 11th 2007 @ 11:00am | Report comment
Guys – this is not a forum to discuss race or personal details. Please keep it on the sport.
thanks.
July 11th 2007 @ 12:29pm
Terry Kidd said | July 11th 2007 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
I would like to say to Andrew Logan … well done, a brilliant article.
Goerge Gregan is undoubtably a great footballer, a great australian and a wonderful person. His leadership skills on and off the field are to be lauded. His nous at the scrumbase is obviously legendary. Undoubtably the Wallabies play better as a team with him on the field but, the unanswerable question …. how many of those recent close test losses may have been close test wins if there had been better and quicker service to the backline?
We have all seen this year in the tests that the Wallaby backline is more potent with faster service. I think we have to run with that thought, unless George can improve and speed his service of the ball very quickly then we should change halfbacks. The team is more important than the individual no matter how illustrious the individual is.