The case of Robbie Deans, Steve Hansen and the NZRU
By Spiro Zavos, 10 Dec 2007 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert

On Saturday the Sydney Morning Herald’s sports section ran a photo of Robbie Deans, the Crusaders coach who is now in line for the Wallaby job, seemingly pointing out something to a group of Super 14 coaches and referees.
The story behind the photo provides a compelling reason why the NZRU has made an outstanding mistake in virtually forcing Deans into the Wallaby coaching job, if he wants it.
I was standing only metres away from Deans when the photo was taken. One of the group was taking some Sydney Grammar boys through the new ELVs for the 2008 Super 14. Deans had pointed out a mistake about where the non-throwing hooker had to stand. Paddy O’Brien, the IRB’s referees boss, intervened in support of the co-ordinator. Deans continued making his point which O’Brien finally agreed was correct.
As the discussion went on, Deans made a point of turning to the coaches when something was settled and saying: ‘Are all the coaches agreed?’ Then he’d lead the discussion into the next point. After the coaching session finished Deans was interviewed about the All Blacks job. He was non-committal. But concluded his interviews by saying, ‘It’s the people’s game, the game belong to them not the officials or the coaches.’
This vignette says a lot about Deans as a coach. He is very well-informed about the laws, which gives him an edge when it comes to developing tactics. He is stubborn when he believes he is right which helps him in planning strategies about the development of his squad. He is a natural coach, in that he has a passion for imparting knowledge. And patience. He’s told me about the hours he spent with Brad Thorne teaching him the intracacies of lineout play using an old boot as a ball.
He admired Thorne for his Christian-based life style and his honesty in rejecting an All Blacks jersey when he was still undecided about returning to rugby league. Deans is very much a coach of players doing the right thing on and off the field (in the style of Wayne Bennett, who he resembles in manner).
Deans’ record with the Crusaders is virtually without parallel for coaches in similar competitions across all the major sports. With the All Blacks going out in the quarter-finals of the 2007 RWC for the first time ever under Graham Henry, why did the NZRU re-appoint a failed RWC coach and reject the Super 14′s most winning coach?
Three factors are involved, in my opinion. The aftermath of the John Mitchell era of 2001 to 2003 when Deans was the assistant coach: the traditional and often vicious Auckland-Canterbury divide in NZ rugby politics: and a split in the Canterbury group.
Mitchell’s team famously lost to the Wallabies in the semi-final at Sydney in the 2003 RWC. It went on to defeat France for third place. It is no secret that Mitchell-Deans believed that if they’d made the final the All Blacks would have won that match. In the semi-final they refused to play Tana Umaga, who was recovering from a knee injury, and played Leon McDonald, who had rarely played at centre. Stirling Mortlock’s interception of a pass to McDonald was the decisive play of the match.
In the fall-out to the RWC loss there were accusations against the Mitchell-Deans team that sponsors were unhappy with their treatment and resentment expressed by former senior All Blacks like Taine Randall, Anton Oliver and Christian Cullen that they’d been treated without respect. Umaga came out strongly last week against Robbie Deans getting the job.
The Auckland-Canterbury divide is the great fault line in NZ rugby, as bad as the old NSW-Queensland divide used to be in Australian rugby politics. In 1991 the All Blacks were beaten in the RWC semi-final at Dublin by the Wallabies, and by a split in the camp with the Auckland All Blacks listening only to Aucklander John Hart and the Canterbury All Blacks listening only to Alex Wyllie.
This divide remains with Henry representing the Auckland camp and Deans the Canterbury camp. So it was no surprise that Sean Fitzpatrick and Grant Fox, All Black and Auckland legends, and members of the 1991 side, supported the decision to re-appoint Graham Henry.
Finally, for reasons that have never been made public there has been a split in the Canterbury camp over Robbie Deans. The manager of the All Blacks David Shand and the incoming chief executive of the NZRU Steve Tew have both been described as being hostile to Deans.
Tew played a straight bat during the process of appointing a new coaching panel for the All Blacks for 2008 to 2010. But when questioned about the possibility of losing Deans to Australian rugby Tew remarked: ‘We have plenty of good coaches left in NZ.’ But great coaches like Robbie Deans? I think not.
The vote for re-appointing Henry was 7-1, with a board member from the King Country representing the minor unions voting for Deans. Significantly, the chairman of the Crusaders franchise and deputy-chairman of the NZRU, Mike Eagle, explained his vote for Henry (which was expected to be given to Deans) in this way: Henry had a much better team of coaches around him.
So stupidity by the NZRU has allowed an Australian David Nucifora to be coach of one of NZ’s strongest franchise and tap into the intellectual property of NZ rugby. Warren Gatland, regarded as one of the best coaches in the world, was kept out of the Blues job and has gone to coach Wales. And now the intellectual property developed by the best rugby franchise in world rugby, the Crusaders, has been virtually handed over to Australian rugby.
And why has the NZRU board made this stupid sequence of mistakes? Partly to cover their own blunder in endorsing the failed re-conditioning program which took 22 All Blacks out of last season’s first seven rounds of the Super 14. But more, in my view, to protect the interests of one Henry’s team who is aligned to Steve Tew.
So here is another Fearless Prediction: In two years time, provided the All Blacks do well in their tests (which they should) Graham Henry will stand down as chief coach but will remain on the coaching staff and Steve Hansen, a coach under Deans at the Crusaders, will become the head coach.
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December 10th 2007 @ 2:27pm
martin doyle said | December 10th 2007 @ 2:27pm | Report comment
I want an Australian born Coach for an Australian born team.
December 10th 2007 @ 2:32pm
johnny boy said | December 10th 2007 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
Bottom line is Henry has shown himself to be a bald faced liar, without a skerrick of integrity or principle. Or guts or courage and any normal respectable human traits. How is a coach like this going to inspire the All Blacks ? He’s not.
He only reapplied because his underlings were stroking his ego so hard so they could keep their jobs too – including NZRFU. John Hart (ex All Black coach) wrote recently that a survery of 50 past All Blacks – 84% yes 84% thought Deans should get the job ie an ex All Black (Deans) or an ex school teacher (Henry). Enough said. Something is very rotten in the NZRFU.
Lets be blunt – Hansen – the supposed forward coach had to get help to coach the lineout – wow he must be good and Smith – well he’s had that many goes at coaching the All Blacks and he’s still bloody hopeless.
Here’s a couple of suggestions – the ARU should (admittedly mischeiviously – hope you’re reading this john o) print black and red (canterbury) jerseys with some green and gold stripes for the remaining decent Kiwis left, so they can support a team other than Henry & the NZRFU ’2nd rate’ all blacks – at the next Bledisloe Cup so they can get behind the ‘Robbielies’. The ARU might be shocked how many kiwis would support them and turn their backs on these ’2nd rate’ all blacks – at least until henry & co are gone but what a marvellous marketing opportunity and delightful chance for john o to twist the knife
Secondly, if Kiwis arent going to make a stand and stand up for their national pride and dignity and let the NZRFU bugger NZ Rugby, then obviously they are a nation of chokers – and if the country is a bunch of chokers – then it’s hardly suprising their No.1 team is as well is it ?
If the country doesnt have enough spine to take a stand against Henry, and right this appalling wrong – then there is no chance the big tough All Blacks will have enough backbone to do anything other to Graeme Henry than what Richard Loe recently suggested Henry & Co were doing to the NZRFU (see nzherald.co.nz ). The All Blacks have not only lost their mana – they’ve also lost their balls – (aaron mauger and jerry collins excepted it appears). Sooner or later they will realise they have been conned and coddled by Henry (for his own benefit rather than theirs) but I suspect by then it will be too late and their glorious careers will have petered out in to nothing. As Richard Loe also said – it is very sad.
December 10th 2007 @ 2:33pm
Eric said | December 10th 2007 @ 2:33pm | Report comment
Whoa, Martin Doyle. I’m generally with you on the Aussie coach for the Wallabies thing, but I do like Deans. In an earlier blog, someone said they don’t care where people are born, as long as they’re 100% Aussie in mind and spirit when they represent (or coach) the Wallabies. I think that was a good concept. We have had many many great Wallabies born outside Aust, whose commitment was 100% to Australia (eg Topo, Greg Davis).
December 10th 2007 @ 2:58pm
Bob McGregor said | December 10th 2007 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
Many thanks Spiro for such a brilliant summation of the AB selection process. Can only give thanks that my prayer was answered provided the ARU doesn’t drop the ball. Will now say another that they don’t knock on with the line wide open.
For all those doubters who cannot accept the best candidate for the Wallabies if he is “foreign” to our shores, then let them contemplate why Australian Boards have installed an Sth Afr born CEO of BHP-Billiton [previously an American] and an American as CEO of RIO – our top two Resource Companies. I think it is called the best candidate for the job!
I’m aware of at least 4 Wallaby backs who will be “crossing their fingers” that Deans is appointed. Perhaps our backline can return to it’s prominence of decades past unless the attack mechanism has already been coached out of them.
December 10th 2007 @ 3:17pm
Tarpo said | December 10th 2007 @ 3:17pm | Report comment
Re Martin Doyle, The last time the Wallabies played no1 Dunning -born Canada, 2 Moore-Suadi Arabria, 3 Shepperdson-Indonesia, 4 Vickerman-South Africa,9.Gregan-Africa(Zambia I think) 11Tuqiri-Fiji, So maybe R Deans coach-NZ fits in a lot better than you thought.
December 10th 2007 @ 3:39pm
johnny boy said | December 10th 2007 @ 3:39pm | Report comment
and what about others with nz heritage – gregory paul or is it brendan cannon, phil waugh (nz mother), morgan turinui (cant get more maori than that ), that hooker from perth – ex water polo player ? – you might as well get a kiwi coach …hill talc thi sum lungwge
December 10th 2007 @ 3:56pm
Chas said | December 10th 2007 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
Spiro:.
Graham Henry, that ambitious fellow who pretends to know all there is to know about rugby, is a Christchurch (i.e. Canterbury) lad. He is NOT an Aucklander.
December 10th 2007 @ 4:10pm
derekboyle said | December 10th 2007 @ 4:10pm | Report comment
hi spiro congrats on a super presented articale on robbie deans i tried to email this to a freind am still waiting for a connetion nz daytime asked for a print got it so fast isuspect you have shares in the ink co jutst jokeing about the inkco keep up the good work you were right in our first foray in this sagta but istill like deans
December 10th 2007 @ 4:21pm
sheek said | December 10th 2007 @ 4:21pm | Report comment
Without being trite, I think Spiro’s article was great as well as many of the replies, especially the early ones.
Speaking with my friends, we all agree the ARU national head coach selection process has been a huge joke, except it’s not funny. However, that said, I still think Robbie Deans is so far ahead of every other candidate, now that he is available.
The ARU is desperate to get Deans. Comments in today’s SMH by deputy CEO Matt Carroll were highly insrtuctive into the parlous financial state of Australian rugby.
While criticising NSW coach Ewen McKenzie for some of his comments, Carroll said in part: “Community rugby is an issue for all to develop the game. Whoever is the Wallabies’ coach, the most important thing is to have a successful Wallabies team”.
Later he added: “We make no apology [for the selection imbroglio]. We want to get back to our winning ways & we need the success. We want the best man for the job. If people are upset by that, I am terribly sorry. That’s the way it has to be”.
There you have it. Reading between the lines, the ARU management of 2003-07 has squandered the $45 million nest egg achieved at the 2003 RWC. For Australian rugby to pull itself back out of the financial mire, the Wallabies need to be regularly successful again. How did it ever come to this???
Also, we need to grow up about having a non-Australian coach the Wallabies. Times change. The dinosaur failed to adapt & overcome, & became extinct.
As others have said, who is the best coach of Deans, or Henry, or Hansen, won’t be known until the 2011 RWC. They are all outstanding coaches. May the best man eventually prevail.
Just as an aside, the Australian rugby professional players of 1996-2007 will be seen by history as an avaricious lot (not all, but many of them). It hasn’t all been their fault, but too often, they put self-interest in front of the Wallaby jumper. But the same accusation can be aimed at some coaches & adminstrators as well.
Funny, when rugby went professional, I thought it would have the advantage of learning from the mistakes of other professional sports. WRONG! Not only has rugby repeated the mistakes of other professional sports, it’s come up with a few doosies of its own.
December 10th 2007 @ 5:21pm
stu said | December 10th 2007 @ 5:21pm | Report comment
i want a coach who doesn’t fall back on statistics – i want a coach who has a winning touch – I WANT DEAN’S
If he can do only half what he has done at the crusaders then the 2008 wallabies will a force to be reckoned with and the certainly will eclipse the bleating of eddie “where’s my spotlight” jones. The hypocricy of jones to lay dirt on the ARU in considering Dean’s when he’s been helping the jaapies….
there are no other real contenders – i don’t believe that jones A or E should be involved again. Ewen, Laurie and David needs to target 2015 and watch your tails.
go robbie