Comments on: Habana slams Super 14’s ELVs http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/ The Roar is a sports opinion website. We tackle sports opinion rather than simply sports news. And we embed user-generated content — in the form of articles and comments — into the fabric of the site. Featuring some of the best sports writers in Australia — including the Sydney Morning Herald's Spiro Zavos — The Roar aims to be the leading sports website in Australia. Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:17:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc hourly 1 By: Global ELVs Trial: Whither the Lower-Level Refs? http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-272626 Global ELVs Trial: Whither the Lower-Level Refs? Thu, 24 Dec 2009 12:44:41 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-272626 [...] detractors, such as 2007 IRB player of the year Bryan Habana, claim that the ELVs will make rugby union more like rugby league. If he means that we’ll actually start seeing some tries, perhaps he’s [...] [...] detractors, such as 2007 IRB player of the year Bryan Habana, claim that the ELVs will make rugby union more like rugby league. If he means that we’ll actually start seeing some tries, perhaps he’s [...]

]]> By: bob http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-29893 bob Mon, 25 Feb 2008 13:16:12 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-29893 Bryan is right. It's a joke that SA rugby should ahve signed up for the ELV's which will only suit the aussies and maybe the kiwis. The new laws wont be adopted in europe because we have different conditions and a different emphasis, we like power plays, set pieces, scrums...as do SA. The aussies can't handle it so they try to change it by loud mouthing in the IRB, and the kiwis go with them because they're stupid enough to think anything new is good. But the ELV's will kill the game over the next few years, and nobody will develop poerful props or locks because developin them takes years and years, and why bother when you can tap and go? So the scrummagers will get lighter and weaker and we'll be just like league! The solution for SA is to give up on the super14 rubbish and the aussies and kiwis, and come into europeaan leagues and contests under the real rugby laws that we still honour up here... after all, you are geographically closer to europe than youa re to auckland! And I bet you get a better reception here in the UK than you do in Oz or NZ! Come north and play it like it's meant to be played! Bryan is right. It’s a joke that SA rugby should ahve signed up for the ELV’s which will only suit the aussies and maybe the kiwis. The new laws wont be adopted in europe because we have different conditions and a different emphasis, we like power plays, set pieces, scrums…as do SA. The aussies can’t handle it so they try to change it by loud mouthing in the IRB, and the kiwis go with them because they’re stupid enough to think anything new is good. But the ELV’s will kill the game over the next few years, and nobody will develop poerful props or locks because developin them takes years and years, and why bother when you can tap and go? So the scrummagers will get lighter and weaker and we’ll be just like league! The solution for SA is to give up on the super14 rubbish and the aussies and kiwis, and come into europeaan leagues and contests under the real rugby laws that we still honour up here… after all, you are geographically closer to europe than youa re to auckland! And I bet you get a better reception here in the UK than you do in Oz or NZ! Come north and play it like it’s meant to be played!

]]> By: DT http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-29042 DT Wed, 20 Feb 2008 10:34:37 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-29042 Haban's comments don't bear close examination, I'm afraid. Stop start is the essence of rugby? Really? If he has serious objections, he should be specific. Haban’s comments don’t bear close examination, I’m afraid.

Stop start is the essence of rugby? Really?

If he has serious objections, he should be specific.

]]> By: jools-usa http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28874 jools-usa Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:11:15 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28874 Agree with WOY WOY BOY, re refs. But having been one once dealing with inebrated touch judges & irate fans wanting to kill me for decisions, I feel the powers-that-be MUST have the touchjudges be more vigilant. How about 2 touchjudges on each sideline, each covering one half? Gotta help the poor ref & we can't have major games decided by his missing stuff. Jools-USA Agree with WOY WOY BOY, re refs.
But having been one once dealing with inebrated touch judges & irate fans wanting to kill me for decisions, I feel the powers-that-be MUST have the touchjudges be more vigilant.
How about 2 touchjudges on each sideline, each covering one half?
Gotta help the poor ref & we can’t have major games decided by his missing stuff.
Jools-USA

]]> By: Benny http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28835 Benny Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:08:55 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28835 There has been ONE round of the Super 14 played and all you guys (jools excepted) can't wait to bag the new laws. C'mon give the ELVs a decent go!!! There has been ONE round of the Super 14 played and all you guys (jools excepted) can’t wait to bag the new laws. C’mon give the ELVs a decent go!!!

]]> By: Photon http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28824 Photon Tue, 19 Feb 2008 06:37:50 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28824 Hi guys I agree with Bryan if we wanted to watch league we would get a NRL subscription, the way things are going rugby will soon not cater for any player who isn't between 100 and 110 kilograms, that's goodbye Matt Giteau, Goodbye Bolla Conradie,cheers Os du Randt, Jason Leonard your services are no longer needed. I thought rugby was meant to be a game for all sizes, guess those days are gone. Anyway that's just what I think Hi guys
I agree with Bryan if we wanted to watch league we would get a NRL subscription, the way things are going rugby will soon not cater for any player who isn’t between 100 and 110 kilograms, that’s goodbye Matt Giteau, Goodbye Bolla Conradie,cheers Os du Randt, Jason Leonard your services are no longer needed. I thought rugby was meant to be a game for all sizes, guess those days are gone. Anyway that’s just what I think

]]> By: Harri http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28754 Harri Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:07:17 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28754 There's been too much tinkering with the rules over the last couple of years and I agree with Habana's comments. Have a look at the Sharks vs Force game: there was far too much kicking and if it continues that way, there is a danger it will be become a variation of AFL, instead of the old style Rugby we grew up with and loved There’s been too much tinkering with the rules over the last couple of years and I agree with Habana’s comments. Have a look at the Sharks vs Force game: there was far too much kicking and if it continues that way, there is a danger it will be become a variation of AFL, instead of the old style Rugby we grew up with and loved

]]> By: Woy Woy Boy http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28727 Woy Woy Boy Mon, 18 Feb 2008 23:23:50 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28727 If we want to see people running around like a mad woman's s..t we can always watch AFL. No wonder the players are dropping with cramp under the new rules. As they say - "if it ain't broke, don't try and fix it". Why don't the powers that be get the refs into shape and sort their myopia out first? They are the ones that are ruining the game with incompetence ( a la World Cup fiasco). How is it the Sth African ref on the weekend "did not see" two blatant punches - yet he could award two tries that every possible camera angle filed to see? Woy Woy Boy - NSW. If we want to see people running around like a mad woman’s s..t we can always watch AFL. No wonder the players are dropping with cramp under the new rules.
As they say – “if it ain’t broke, don’t try and fix it”.
Why don’t the powers that be get the refs into shape and sort their myopia out first? They are the ones that are ruining the game with incompetence ( a la World Cup fiasco).
How is it the Sth African ref on the weekend “did not see” two blatant punches – yet he could award two tries that every possible camera angle filed to see?
Woy Woy Boy – NSW.

]]> By: jools-usa http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28649 jools-usa Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:33:30 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/02/19/habana-slams-super-14s-elvs/#comment-28649 It's easy for Brian H, he's been busy chasing Cheetahs & working on his speed, whilst I and other fanatics have suffered the slow torture of only having 6-Nations games on the tube. Just when my group of frustrated watchers were channel surfing looking for ANYTHING with some life, we saw the 'Tahs/Canes game and the beer flowed, nearly as much as the game, which was compelling. Bring it on every weekend & tell the sponsors they're onto something here. Jools-USA It’s easy for Brian H, he’s been busy chasing Cheetahs & working on his speed, whilst I and other fanatics have
suffered the slow torture of only having 6-Nations games on the tube.
Just when my group of frustrated watchers were channel surfing looking for ANYTHING with some life, we saw the ‘Tahs/Canes game and the beer flowed, nearly as much as the game, which was compelling.
Bring it on every weekend & tell the sponsors they’re onto something here.
Jools-USA

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