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	<title>Comments on: Is James O&#8217;Connor the new Tim Horan?</title>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-5/#comment-160581</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 03:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chunky?

The guy is about 80kg soaking wet</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chunky?</p>
<p>The guy is about 80kg soaking wet</p>
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		<title>By: callum</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-5/#comment-55836</link>
		<dc:creator>callum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:27:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>give it time. at the moment he needs to force his way into a backline with the likes of giteau, cross, staniforth, shephard and mitchell. once hes done that and then strings together performances then he can be the next tim horan. but tim horan was in view the best there was and best there ever will be at inside centre. no its up to james o&#039;connor to prove me wrong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>give it time. at the moment he needs to force his way into a backline with the likes of giteau, cross, staniforth, shephard and mitchell. once hes done that and then strings together performances then he can be the next tim horan. but tim horan was in view the best there was and best there ever will be at inside centre. no its up to james o&#8217;connor to prove me wrong</p>
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		<title>By: Burgs</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-5/#comment-41056</link>
		<dc:creator>Burgs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 03:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to topic for a moment...
Well spotted Spiro, young James played out of his skin on &quot;run-on&quot; debut last night against the Chiefs.
Maybe a few blemishes if compared to a seasoned player but for someone still to young to vote I believe he deserves a huge pat on the back for his poise against some huge man mountains in the Chiefs pack and for his willingness to have a crack and play his natural game when outside one of the worlds best players in Giteau.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to topic for a moment&#8230;<br />
Well spotted Spiro, young James played out of his skin on &#8220;run-on&#8221; debut last night against the Chiefs.<br />
Maybe a few blemishes if compared to a seasoned player but for someone still to young to vote I believe he deserves a huge pat on the back for his poise against some huge man mountains in the Chiefs pack and for his willingness to have a crack and play his natural game when outside one of the worlds best players in Giteau.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-5/#comment-40893</link>
		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 07:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During a discussion on &#039;what do you do all day&#039; In my average daily plan I suggested 1-2 hours on the Roar. She nearly choked and said it&#039;s at least 4 and sometimes maybe more.

But that can&#039;t be true can it? Time fly&#039;s when your having fun with a minor obsession. Which is not the case today when I have had to go and dig the garden for 3 hours.

Roll on 5.30.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During a discussion on &#8216;what do you do all day&#8217; In my average daily plan I suggested 1-2 hours on the Roar. She nearly choked and said it&#8217;s at least 4 and sometimes maybe more.</p>
<p>But that can&#8217;t be true can it? Time fly&#8217;s when your having fun with a minor obsession. Which is not the case today when I have had to go and dig the garden for 3 hours.</p>
<p>Roll on 5.30.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-5/#comment-40878</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:38:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well if its any consolation then I&#039;m last in the tipping comp of Rugby League, she kicks my butt in that big time...I&#039;m getting married next year but I&#039;ve made sure the wedding dates are &#039;safe dates&#039;..nothing like fidgeting at the altar with pictures of an epic battle of the Bledisloe in the mind... only person who can ruin it is if any of my closest and dearest decide to get married on inappropriate dates..I&#039;m hoping they&#039;ll have the good manners and politeness to change those dates at my request. I wouldn&#039;t call it an obsession..maybe a keen interest...?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well if its any consolation then I&#8217;m last in the tipping comp of Rugby League, she kicks my butt in that big time&#8230;I&#8217;m getting married next year but I&#8217;ve made sure the wedding dates are &#8216;safe dates&#8217;..nothing like fidgeting at the altar with pictures of an epic battle of the Bledisloe in the mind&#8230; only person who can ruin it is if any of my closest and dearest decide to get married on inappropriate dates..I&#8217;m hoping they&#8217;ll have the good manners and politeness to change those dates at my request. I wouldn&#8217;t call it an obsession..maybe a keen interest&#8230;?</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Taulelei</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40876</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Taulelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one Ben

My wife still holds a sneaking suspicion that when I proposed to her on the night of the second Bledisloe in 2003 when NZ won it back, that it was just because of the sheer euphoria of the win.

My wife does enjoy watching rugby and is becoming quite knowledgeable about the myriad of laws but doesn&#039;t share my obsession with the game or the countless post match repeat viewings.

Good luck all with your tips for the weekend</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one Ben</p>
<p>My wife still holds a sneaking suspicion that when I proposed to her on the night of the second Bledisloe in 2003 when NZ won it back, that it was just because of the sheer euphoria of the win.</p>
<p>My wife does enjoy watching rugby and is becoming quite knowledgeable about the myriad of laws but doesn&#8217;t share my obsession with the game or the countless post match repeat viewings.</p>
<p>Good luck all with your tips for the weekend</p>
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		<title>By: Ben C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40873</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam

I&#039;m sorry but I feel that leading an AFL tipping competition is nothing to boast about.

My wife goes to the rugby with me, understands a fair bit about it and is tolerant of my degree of interest (obsession?) She did however put her foot down and not let me bring a television to our reception which was on the night of the 05 Bledisloe Cup. My father did smuggle in a small radio and discretely provided update scores.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry but I feel that leading an AFL tipping competition is nothing to boast about.</p>
<p>My wife goes to the rugby with me, understands a fair bit about it and is tolerant of my degree of interest (obsession?) She did however put her foot down and not let me bring a television to our reception which was on the night of the 05 Bledisloe Cup. My father did smuggle in a small radio and discretely provided update scores.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Taulelei</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40871</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Taulelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 05:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I can&#039;t work out is how a non rugby follower (like my wife) can still kick my ass when it comes to rugby tipping.  I think I&#039;m guilty of overanalysing.  Mind you I&#039;m better than her when it comes to AFL tipping so it all balances out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I can&#8217;t work out is how a non rugby follower (like my wife) can still kick my ass when it comes to rugby tipping.  I think I&#8217;m guilty of overanalysing.  Mind you I&#8217;m better than her when it comes to AFL tipping so it all balances out.</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40866</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>at this point I am consdering myself lucky in that I&#039;ve just spent the afternoon arguing about super14 tips with my girlfriend...the bonus is that I am ahead of her in the tipping stakes, yet she kicked my arse when I tipped only the Chiefs to beat the Crusaders...so yes..I&#039;m keeping her!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>at this point I am consdering myself lucky in that I&#8217;ve just spent the afternoon arguing about super14 tips with my girlfriend&#8230;the bonus is that I am ahead of her in the tipping stakes, yet she kicked my arse when I tipped only the Chiefs to beat the Crusaders&#8230;so yes..I&#8217;m keeping her!</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40865</link>
		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam and Ben C

Believe me it&#039;s worse if she is a rugby fan as mine is. She pours scorn on most of my ideas and thinks I am wasting my time talking to you lot presumeably because she knows everything and I should just be talking to her - If I have a problem! 

Nice Eh!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam and Ben C</p>
<p>Believe me it&#8217;s worse if she is a rugby fan as mine is. She pours scorn on most of my ideas and thinks I am wasting my time talking to you lot presumeably because she knows everything and I should just be talking to her &#8211; If I have a problem! </p>
<p>Nice Eh!</p>
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		<title>By: eric</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40864</link>
		<dc:creator>eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now you have touched on a sensitive, well hidden problem here...the non-rugby wife. I recently made my wife read that article in another paper, by Terry Smith about Julian Huxley. I was quite moved by it, but my wife said &quot;What do you mean, that cameraderie stuff?&quot;  I give up meekly, and move off to search for like minded people at The Roar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now you have touched on a sensitive, well hidden problem here&#8230;the non-rugby wife. I recently made my wife read that article in another paper, by Terry Smith about Julian Huxley. I was quite moved by it, but my wife said &#8220;What do you mean, that cameraderie stuff?&#8221;  I give up meekly, and move off to search for like minded people at The Roar.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40836</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam

That is a very disturbing image.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam</p>
<p>That is a very disturbing image.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Taulelei</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40822</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Taulelei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stillmissit

I know what you mean, my wife thought I had signed up to one of those online dating sites or something because I was spending so much time on the internet and checking email.  When I explained to her about the Roar she answered &quot;Oh so you are having an affair then, just with a bunch of other rugbyheads&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stillmissit</p>
<p>I know what you mean, my wife thought I had signed up to one of those online dating sites or something because I was spending so much time on the internet and checking email.  When I explained to her about the Roar she answered &#8220;Oh so you are having an affair then, just with a bunch of other rugbyheads&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-4/#comment-40821</link>
		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 01:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jools you are right about the great strides we made in establishing RU in the 90&#039;s. I think some people thought it was a fait accompli after the 2003 WC and decided we didn&#039;t need an O&#039;Neil anymore &quot;We are all capable of being a JON and maybe better&quot; I am sure they thought that. The end result is the mess we have been in.

In sport in Australia you are only ever one big ballsup away from being a tier 2 sport.

My partner thinks I am turning our house into an old people&#039;s home with internet access, to chat to you blokes about rugby matters that don&#039;t matter, according to her -what would she know I ask quietly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jools you are right about the great strides we made in establishing RU in the 90&#8242;s. I think some people thought it was a fait accompli after the 2003 WC and decided we didn&#8217;t need an O&#8217;Neil anymore &#8220;We are all capable of being a JON and maybe better&#8221; I am sure they thought that. The end result is the mess we have been in.</p>
<p>In sport in Australia you are only ever one big ballsup away from being a tier 2 sport.</p>
<p>My partner thinks I am turning our house into an old people&#8217;s home with internet access, to chat to you blokes about rugby matters that don&#8217;t matter, according to her -what would she know I ask quietly.</p>
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		<title>By: jools-usa</title>
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		<dc:creator>jools-usa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 21:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stillmissit.
Agree with next ten years. We either make it or RL takes our talent.
Don&#039;t have the figures but didn&#039;t RU take audiences away from RL in the winning 90&#039;s?
Hopefully, RFU will roar back (under ELVs), and Deans &amp; other new Super 14 coaches.
On a personal note, I need ten more good years before better half stuffs me into that
&quot;oldies&quot; home where I can&#039;t set the alarm &amp; watch a 3:30am Antipodes game
Jools-USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stillmissit.<br />
Agree with next ten years. We either make it or RL takes our talent.<br />
Don&#8217;t have the figures but didn&#8217;t RU take audiences away from RL in the winning 90&#8242;s?<br />
Hopefully, RFU will roar back (under ELVs), and Deans &amp; other new Super 14 coaches.<br />
On a personal note, I need ten more good years before better half stuffs me into that<br />
&#8220;oldies&#8221; home where I can&#8217;t set the alarm &amp; watch a 3:30am Antipodes game<br />
Jools-USA</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guys how come you have almost all put Berrick Barnes at inside centre? I still have him as the Australian 5/8th and leave Giteau at 12 as I believe he shows more maturity than any of the other youngsters around and has great defensive ability. We need a 5/8th both this year and over the next one who has all the skills and not just the passing and backing up. In two years time who knows all of these boys show enormous talent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guys how come you have almost all put Berrick Barnes at inside centre? I still have him as the Australian 5/8th and leave Giteau at 12 as I believe he shows more maturity than any of the other youngsters around and has great defensive ability. We need a 5/8th both this year and over the next one who has all the skills and not just the passing and backing up. In two years time who knows all of these boys show enormous talent.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 12:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;connor for 10 not 13.


9: Burgess/Holmes, 10: O’Connor/Beale/Cooper, 12: Giteau/Barnes, 13: Cross/Horne.

But yeah front row????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;connor for 10 not 13.</p>
<p>9: Burgess/Holmes, 10: O’Connor/Beale/Cooper, 12: Giteau/Barnes, 13: Cross/Horne.</p>
<p>But yeah front row????</p>
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		<title>By: Bob McGregor</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/04/is-james-oconnor-the-new-tim-horan/comment-page-3/#comment-40500</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 00:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LHS,

Good point about depth requirements but could argue with you about order you used for some backline positions. I&#039;m still hoping Mortlock will be around. I could envisage him as a Harry Wells type centre [1950/60&#039;s League centre who set Reg Gasnier up for many tries in Tests of that era] who has the strength to off load in the tackle to set us the abundance of speed and talent coming through.

Holmes appears slower in moving the ball this year - hope that is function of Brumbies style requirements previously dictated there by Gregan rather than added [?] bulk slowing him down, as I still believe his vision around the field is excellent. Apart from incident where he was stripped of the ball at base of ruck by the Chiefs for run away try, his 2 try haul close to maul earlier and beautifully timed/positioned pass to put 5/8 in between posts last game was great to see. What I particularly like about both Burgess and Holmes is they have VISION around the field. They will set up many opportunities. What is now required is for other backs/forwards to &quot;sense&quot; these opportunities and move to support them and not &quot;sit&quot; back and cheer them on as so often seems to happen. We need speed to back these moves as far more tries will result. Lachie Turner for one needs to sense these moves much earlier as he will score many more tries when he does.

Beale&#039;s vision last game with his &quot;box&quot; kick for Carter&#039;s try was a gem. He gets better each game no doubt due to better service from Burgess. Hopefully his kicking will get better as well. His style causes a curve in the flight of the ball - especially when on RHS of the field thereby &quot;reducing&quot; angle at the posts. Perhaps he should &quot;copy&quot; Alan Donald&#039;s kicking technique [Chiefs 5/8]. He has almost eliminated the curve in flight and the results show.

I continue to salivate about our prospects for the next 10 years and reason depth of talent across ALL positions is crucial to maintain standards.</description>
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<p>Good point about depth requirements but could argue with you about order you used for some backline positions. I&#8217;m still hoping Mortlock will be around. I could envisage him as a Harry Wells type centre [1950/60's League centre who set Reg Gasnier up for many tries in Tests of that era] who has the strength to off load in the tackle to set us the abundance of speed and talent coming through.</p>
<p>Holmes appears slower in moving the ball this year &#8211; hope that is function of Brumbies style requirements previously dictated there by Gregan rather than added [?] bulk slowing him down, as I still believe his vision around the field is excellent. Apart from incident where he was stripped of the ball at base of ruck by the Chiefs for run away try, his 2 try haul close to maul earlier and beautifully timed/positioned pass to put 5/8 in between posts last game was great to see. What I particularly like about both Burgess and Holmes is they have VISION around the field. They will set up many opportunities. What is now required is for other backs/forwards to &#8220;sense&#8221; these opportunities and move to support them and not &#8220;sit&#8221; back and cheer them on as so often seems to happen. We need speed to back these moves as far more tries will result. Lachie Turner for one needs to sense these moves much earlier as he will score many more tries when he does.</p>
<p>Beale&#8217;s vision last game with his &#8220;box&#8221; kick for Carter&#8217;s try was a gem. He gets better each game no doubt due to better service from Burgess. Hopefully his kicking will get better as well. His style causes a curve in the flight of the ball &#8211; especially when on RHS of the field thereby &#8220;reducing&#8221; angle at the posts. Perhaps he should &#8220;copy&#8221; Alan Donald&#8217;s kicking technique [Chiefs 5/8]. He has almost eliminated the curve in flight and the results show.</p>
<p>I continue to salivate about our prospects for the next 10 years and reason depth of talent across ALL positions is crucial to maintain standards.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 22:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, don&#039;t go with one or the other.  Consider them all.  Injuries dictate that you need more than one in each position.

9: Burgess/Lucas/Holmes, 10: Giteau/Beale/Cooper, 12: Barnes/Cooper/O&#039;Connor, 13: O&#039;Connor/Horne.  And that is just for starters.  There are plenty more where they came from: Liliafano; Afiaki; Cummins, Mafi, ++++++.  Just need a front row.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, don&#8217;t go with one or the other.  Consider them all.  Injuries dictate that you need more than one in each position.</p>
<p>9: Burgess/Lucas/Holmes, 10: Giteau/Beale/Cooper, 12: Barnes/Cooper/O&#8217;Connor, 13: O&#8217;Connor/Horne.  And that is just for starters.  There are plenty more where they came from: Liliafano; Afiaki; Cummins, Mafi, ++++++.  Just need a front row.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 12:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;Connor played WA club rugby for Cottesloe on the weekend in a game featuring a handful of force players. He was by far and away the best player on the park.  He will jump Beale and make the Wallaby squad for the next world cup. He has it all and is a good kid with a good mentality at training.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;Connor played WA club rugby for Cottesloe on the weekend in a game featuring a handful of force players. He was by far and away the best player on the park.  He will jump Beale and make the Wallaby squad for the next world cup. He has it all and is a good kid with a good mentality at training.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bob Mcgregor, have a look at this roar article.  it is very much along the lines of you posting today.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/22/wallabies-are-going-back-to-the-future/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bob Mcgregor, have a look at this roar article.  it is very much along the lines of you posting today.<br />
<a href="http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/22/wallabies-are-going-back-to-the-future/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/04/22/wallabies-are-going-back-to-the-future/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Bob McGregor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob McGregor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been impressed with the development and talent of our younger national sides for about 4 years and think I&#039;m on record in the Roar way back, stating we had to embrace youth to rejuvenate the Wallabies ASAP. We failed to grasp the nettle  - nor had we the courage to act in time for the last RWC in France. Was very vocal in these pages for some time especially championing the selection of Robbie Deans. Once selected and aware of the deep talent pool coming through, it was time to let the cream of the rising talent impress us on the field. This they are doing in spades and guided by Deans they will evolve into future Wallaby stars before their natural flair and talent is coached out of them.

What a revelation Luke Burgess has been since selected to Tah&#039;s run on side. If we can bottle that form and he can remain sound [hasn&#039;t played much over past few years due injury according to media] then I think we have seen the next Wallaby half. What I specifically like about him has been his vision on the paddock. Rarely takes a wrong option and if he does rectifies same immediately. What further encourages me are reports Deans has an open mind about our emerging talent.

Makes me salivate about the next 4 years of OZ Rugby, possibly 10 years and beyond. Bring it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been impressed with the development and talent of our younger national sides for about 4 years and think I&#8217;m on record in the Roar way back, stating we had to embrace youth to rejuvenate the Wallabies ASAP. We failed to grasp the nettle  &#8211; nor had we the courage to act in time for the last RWC in France. Was very vocal in these pages for some time especially championing the selection of Robbie Deans. Once selected and aware of the deep talent pool coming through, it was time to let the cream of the rising talent impress us on the field. This they are doing in spades and guided by Deans they will evolve into future Wallaby stars before their natural flair and talent is coached out of them.</p>
<p>What a revelation Luke Burgess has been since selected to Tah&#8217;s run on side. If we can bottle that form and he can remain sound [hasn't played much over past few years due injury according to media] then I think we have seen the next Wallaby half. What I specifically like about him has been his vision on the paddock. Rarely takes a wrong option and if he does rectifies same immediately. What further encourages me are reports Deans has an open mind about our emerging talent.</p>
<p>Makes me salivate about the next 4 years of OZ Rugby, possibly 10 years and beyond. Bring it on.</p>
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		<title>By: Hori</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hori</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 13:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James O&#039;Connor has always had a very good step on him to evade defenders. A natural footballer that has talent but not the next Tim Horan nor Matt Giteau.  He does have natural flair but whether he has fixed up his passing and kicking game will be crucial to his success.  

Alot of speed which will impress people but very raw at this stage. He will turn 18 sometime this year but a person that we all should watch out for is Matt Toomua. A prococious talent and has been for some time.

O&#039;Connor is a former league player aswell before making the switch to the 15 man game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James O&#8217;Connor has always had a very good step on him to evade defenders. A natural footballer that has talent but not the next Tim Horan nor Matt Giteau.  He does have natural flair but whether he has fixed up his passing and kicking game will be crucial to his success.  </p>
<p>Alot of speed which will impress people but very raw at this stage. He will turn 18 sometime this year but a person that we all should watch out for is Matt Toomua. A prococious talent and has been for some time.</p>
<p>O&#8217;Connor is a former league player aswell before making the switch to the 15 man game</p>
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		<title>By: samantha</title>
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		<dc:creator>samantha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:17:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was at the adelaide sevens this year and watching o&#039;connor play was fantastic but after the game when most of the people had left i went down and had a chat with some of the aussie player including o&#039;connor. he was interesting and i hope with his natural ability and great personality that he goes far</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was at the adelaide sevens this year and watching o&#8217;connor play was fantastic but after the game when most of the people had left i went down and had a chat with some of the aussie player including o&#8217;connor. he was interesting and i hope with his natural ability and great personality that he goes far</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:12:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>my partner and I were in Adelaide for the sevens and made a point to watch this young talent James O&#039;Connor, weren&#039;t we amazed that he is only 17!!?? What talent?!  We noticed how he never stopped trying and his lines of running and ability to evade defenders was a pleasure to watch. Hopefully we can see some of him sometime soon,  I understand he is signed  with the western force and reading the daily telegraph today we might just get a chance to watch him this weekend.

I am from Kenya so quite pleased to see the Kenyans getting increasingly succesful in the rugby sevens. The problem I think is usually consistency because the team all either work or study and cannot totally dedicate their full attention to rugby as professional teams of paid career rugby players from other countries do. I spoke to some of the Kenyan players on Sunday night after the tournament and the team they fielded was not full strength as some of the preffered players had to go back to  Kenya for work and study commitments after the Hong Kong Sevens or after different stages of the Sevens circuit.  With Virgin Atlantics new sponsorship we are at the fringes of beginning real professionalism in rugby in Kenya. I look forward to this unearthing Kenya as a true (or should I say consistent)  rugby sevens force. That said,  Kenya being 5th on the IRB ladder is not a bad place to be considering the esteemed company of the likes of New Zealand, Fiji and South Africa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my partner and I were in Adelaide for the sevens and made a point to watch this young talent James O&#8217;Connor, weren&#8217;t we amazed that he is only 17!!?? What talent?!  We noticed how he never stopped trying and his lines of running and ability to evade defenders was a pleasure to watch. Hopefully we can see some of him sometime soon,  I understand he is signed  with the western force and reading the daily telegraph today we might just get a chance to watch him this weekend.</p>
<p>I am from Kenya so quite pleased to see the Kenyans getting increasingly succesful in the rugby sevens. The problem I think is usually consistency because the team all either work or study and cannot totally dedicate their full attention to rugby as professional teams of paid career rugby players from other countries do. I spoke to some of the Kenyan players on Sunday night after the tournament and the team they fielded was not full strength as some of the preffered players had to go back to  Kenya for work and study commitments after the Hong Kong Sevens or after different stages of the Sevens circuit.  With Virgin Atlantics new sponsorship we are at the fringes of beginning real professionalism in rugby in Kenya. I look forward to this unearthing Kenya as a true (or should I say consistent)  rugby sevens force. That said,  Kenya being 5th on the IRB ladder is not a bad place to be considering the esteemed company of the likes of New Zealand, Fiji and South Africa.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 05:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stillmissit iIwas going to use Dan Carter as an example of someone who wasn&#039;t chucked in the deep end as a teenagaer - they (Deans) held him back at both the Crusaders and the All Blacks until his early twenties (may have done themselves out of the 03 World cup in the process mind you!) and look at the results - hard to argue he hasn&#039;t been the best back in the world in the last 4 years.  I think too much responsibility and pressure has been placed on Beale, Cooper and Barnes while they were all in their teens and as a consequence they have all suffered as players.

Of course the other point is that the Crusaders had the luxury of having Merhtens as the incumbent 5/8th, whereas the Tahs and the Reds have been desperate for a playmaker i.e. the new Mark Ella/Michael Lynagh.

Agree 100% re Eddie Jones.  What a disaster he was for Australian rugby.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stillmissit iIwas going to use Dan Carter as an example of someone who wasn&#8217;t chucked in the deep end as a teenagaer &#8211; they (Deans) held him back at both the Crusaders and the All Blacks until his early twenties (may have done themselves out of the 03 World cup in the process mind you!) and look at the results &#8211; hard to argue he hasn&#8217;t been the best back in the world in the last 4 years.  I think too much responsibility and pressure has been placed on Beale, Cooper and Barnes while they were all in their teens and as a consequence they have all suffered as players.</p>
<p>Of course the other point is that the Crusaders had the luxury of having Merhtens as the incumbent 5/8th, whereas the Tahs and the Reds have been desperate for a playmaker i.e. the new Mark Ella/Michael Lynagh.</p>
<p>Agree 100% re Eddie Jones.  What a disaster he was for Australian rugby.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 02:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry

The second year is always the hardest if you have talent, the opposition is going to work on you. You have to have the skills to get through this year still in contention not to dominate. That should come in their 3rd year.

I think over the last 7 years we have been too conservative and lost a lot of young talent either overseas or who have given the game away. My dislike for Eddie Jones in this department (and most departments as most guys have heard before) knows no end.

I don&#039;t believe we should just throw them in the deep end and if they can&#039;t swim dump them. We have done a fair bit of that in the past. Pat Howard&#039;s introduction to the Wallabies was a disgrace. One test v NZ at 5/8 in atrocious conditions in Dunedin and then dumped for a fair while. Still managed to get 20 Wallaby starts. Scott Bowen was a talented 5/8 I thought, was also poorly handled and managed only 9 tests.

Robbie Deans does appear to know how to handle young talent and how to blood them properly. It&#039;s the S14 coaches that worry me and they have to get through that before they can make it to the national team. The days of picking a Kearns or a Farr-Jones from 2nd grade club rugby is over unfortunately.

BTW Harry these players would have to play club rugby and that is a very physical game. Basically they have to have the bone structure and hardness to handle this game at the top and if they don&#039;t it&#039;s better they find out earlier than later. There again there is always a Mortlock who proves this theory wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry</p>
<p>The second year is always the hardest if you have talent, the opposition is going to work on you. You have to have the skills to get through this year still in contention not to dominate. That should come in their 3rd year.</p>
<p>I think over the last 7 years we have been too conservative and lost a lot of young talent either overseas or who have given the game away. My dislike for Eddie Jones in this department (and most departments as most guys have heard before) knows no end.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe we should just throw them in the deep end and if they can&#8217;t swim dump them. We have done a fair bit of that in the past. Pat Howard&#8217;s introduction to the Wallabies was a disgrace. One test v NZ at 5/8 in atrocious conditions in Dunedin and then dumped for a fair while. Still managed to get 20 Wallaby starts. Scott Bowen was a talented 5/8 I thought, was also poorly handled and managed only 9 tests.</p>
<p>Robbie Deans does appear to know how to handle young talent and how to blood them properly. It&#8217;s the S14 coaches that worry me and they have to get through that before they can make it to the national team. The days of picking a Kearns or a Farr-Jones from 2nd grade club rugby is over unfortunately.</p>
<p>BTW Harry these players would have to play club rugby and that is a very physical game. Basically they have to have the bone structure and hardness to handle this game at the top and if they don&#8217;t it&#8217;s better they find out earlier than later. There again there is always a Mortlock who proves this theory wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I take your point Stillmissit but I still think a season or two in Sevens would help them develop as players far more than being chucked into S14 - which is a high quality level of rugby, better than many test matches I&#039;d contend - too soon, where all of a sudden they have far less time and have to tackle, and be tackled by, the likes of Jerry Collins and Schalk Burger - a bit of a step up from the Brisbane or Sydney Grammar backrowers taking time out from going for gold in their HSC&#039;s, that they were carving up the season before  

In my opinion Kurtley Beale and Quade Cooper for instance should never have played S14 last year or even this year - they would have been far better playing a season of club rugby and the Sevens circuit before going into the S14.

Similarly Lachlan Turner and Josh Holmes are great talent but have been far quieter this year than last year - but both are still only 20 and need nurtuing before playing S14.

Some players - like Steyn and Horan - can go direct from school into test rugby.  But the majority, no matter how talented, still need time to develop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I take your point Stillmissit but I still think a season or two in Sevens would help them develop as players far more than being chucked into S14 &#8211; which is a high quality level of rugby, better than many test matches I&#8217;d contend &#8211; too soon, where all of a sudden they have far less time and have to tackle, and be tackled by, the likes of Jerry Collins and Schalk Burger &#8211; a bit of a step up from the Brisbane or Sydney Grammar backrowers taking time out from going for gold in their HSC&#8217;s, that they were carving up the season before  </p>
<p>In my opinion Kurtley Beale and Quade Cooper for instance should never have played S14 last year or even this year &#8211; they would have been far better playing a season of club rugby and the Sevens circuit before going into the S14.</p>
<p>Similarly Lachlan Turner and Josh Holmes are great talent but have been far quieter this year than last year &#8211; but both are still only 20 and need nurtuing before playing S14.</p>
<p>Some players &#8211; like Steyn and Horan &#8211; can go direct from school into test rugby.  But the majority, no matter how talented, still need time to develop.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 23:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry,leftarm and haydenl

I think we cant be too formulaic. A good coach can tell if a young player can step up or at least is worth a try at that level. We cant just store them in 7&#039;s and come to collect them in 2 years. I don&#039;t believe 7&#039;s isnt a great introduction to the 15 a side game. It should be taken seriously as it is a game in its own right and not just an adjunct to the 15 a side game. Watching the sevens last night you realise that the players dont have to use a lot of strength and it&#039;s there speed and guile that is the main attributes.

Look at how SA has introduced Francois Steyn, they know he is a great talent and as a young man, 20 I believe, they know he will make mistakes but also win games for you. We need to be able to make the most of them and put faith in this amazing bunch of young men, possibly the greatest group Australia has ever had (Sheek comment?) and if Robbie Deans and the rest of the coaches handle them correctly we are facing our best era ever.

Remember we only have them for a maximum of 10 years. Times ticking lets get going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry,leftarm and haydenl</p>
<p>I think we cant be too formulaic. A good coach can tell if a young player can step up or at least is worth a try at that level. We cant just store them in 7&#8242;s and come to collect them in 2 years. I don&#8217;t believe 7&#8242;s isnt a great introduction to the 15 a side game. It should be taken seriously as it is a game in its own right and not just an adjunct to the 15 a side game. Watching the sevens last night you realise that the players dont have to use a lot of strength and it&#8217;s there speed and guile that is the main attributes.</p>
<p>Look at how SA has introduced Francois Steyn, they know he is a great talent and as a young man, 20 I believe, they know he will make mistakes but also win games for you. We need to be able to make the most of them and put faith in this amazing bunch of young men, possibly the greatest group Australia has ever had (Sheek comment?) and if Robbie Deans and the rest of the coaches handle them correctly we are facing our best era ever.</p>
<p>Remember we only have them for a maximum of 10 years. Times ticking lets get going.</p>
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		<title>By: haydenl</title>
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		<dc:creator>haydenl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 21:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw Conner play in the 7&#039;s against Canada. First touch he broke two tackles. Second touch he made about 40m metres through and around defenders before offloading beautifully to Shawn Mackay (?) to score a very important try. Commentators and I were very very impressed. He has class written allover him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw Conner play in the 7&#8242;s against Canada. First touch he broke two tackles. Second touch he made about 40m metres through and around defenders before offloading beautifully to Shawn Mackay (?) to score a very important try. Commentators and I were very very impressed. He has class written allover him.</p>
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