Comments on: Union and league in battle for third, says O’Neill http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/06/16/union-and-league-in-battle-for-third-says-oneill/ Your Sports Opinion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 22:00:22 +0000 hourly 1 By: Midfielder http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/06/16/union-and-league-in-battle-for-third-says-oneill/comment-page-1/#comment-48767 Midfielder Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:33:34 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=7407#comment-48767 Interesting that JOH has rated football above RL, when at this stage I would still have tho that RL was a very strong number two code and in TV ratings many on this site claim RL outrates AFL on a all Australia count. Maybe RU is in more trouble than it appears, as from where I sit RU has a good contract with fox for the S14. Its major concern is at local park level, and a general lack of sports management skills at club (Gordon / Eastwood etc) and state management like NSWRU. Interesting that JOH has rated football above RL, when at this stage I would still have tho that RL was a very strong number two code and in TV ratings many on this site claim RL outrates AFL on a all Australia count.

Maybe RU is in more trouble than it appears, as from where I sit RU has a good contract with fox for the S14.

Its major concern is at local park level, and a general lack of sports management skills at club (Gordon / Eastwood etc) and state management like NSWRU.

]]> By: Redb http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/06/16/union-and-league-in-battle-for-third-says-oneill/comment-page-1/#comment-48764 Redb Mon, 16 Jun 2008 03:21:19 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=7407#comment-48764 Mark H, No doubt the AFL has a worry with the Melbourne Demons, $4.5m in debt, poor ave crowds - they are currently the only club in real trouble and comparable to 3-4 NRL Sydney clubs. Next in line would be North Melbourne (off the ropes at the moment) and Western Bulldogs who are looking good for now, but need to carefully manage their finances. Hawthorn are slaying the beast financially no problem at all, and as far as I know St Kilda are Ok. In context: AFL offers $100M to relocate, NRL offers $8M to relocate. The AFL is hurting slightly, my read is that Sydney NRL clubs are in deep trouble, where as QLD NRL clubs are flying. So the NRL comp is not under threat, its the troublesome Sydney clubs, but not the game of rugby league in Sydney as RL SOO TV ratings prove it is still by far the most popular code in Sydney. The long term advantage of the AFL is that its heartland remains as strong as ever (Cartlon v Collingwood in front of 80,000 yesterday) and the AFL has the money to re-distribute to help clubs through problems. There has always been 1-2 clubs struggling financially for the past 30 years. That doesn't mean that 1-2 clubs won't merge, relocate or disappear in coming years. To date the AFL has managed to retain core supporters through painful relocations. It terms of respective hurt, the AFL has a broken hand, the NRL has a broken leg, the ARU is in a wheelchair, FFA is still looking to build their comp to AFL/NRL financial levels, they can afford health insurance with a government rebate but have no clear injuries to date as a juvenile yet to play in the big league. Soccer's international footprint remains its strongest advantage domesticially and it is an enduring one. The big advantage the AFL has over the NRL and ARU is they do not share a heartland. NRL, ARU and even FFA are all based in Sydney - this battle is being fought in Sydney. Redb Mark H,

No doubt the AFL has a worry with the Melbourne Demons, $4.5m in debt, poor ave crowds – they are currently the only club in real trouble and comparable to 3-4 NRL Sydney clubs. Next in line would be North Melbourne (off the ropes at the moment) and Western Bulldogs who are looking good for now, but need to carefully manage their finances. Hawthorn are slaying the beast financially no problem at all, and as far as I know St Kilda are Ok.

In context: AFL offers $100M to relocate, NRL offers $8M to relocate. The AFL is hurting slightly, my read is that Sydney NRL clubs are in deep trouble, where as QLD NRL clubs are flying. So the NRL comp is not under threat, its the troublesome Sydney clubs, but not the game of rugby league in Sydney as RL SOO TV ratings prove it is still by far the most popular code in Sydney.

The long term advantage of the AFL is that its heartland remains as strong as ever (Cartlon v Collingwood in front of 80,000 yesterday) and the AFL has the money to re-distribute to help clubs through problems. There has always been 1-2 clubs struggling financially for the past 30 years. That doesn’t mean that 1-2 clubs won’t merge, relocate or disappear in coming years. To date the AFL has managed to retain core supporters through painful relocations.

It terms of respective hurt, the AFL has a broken hand, the NRL has a broken leg, the ARU is in a wheelchair, FFA is still looking to build their comp to AFL/NRL financial levels, they can afford health insurance with a government rebate but have no clear injuries to date as a juvenile yet to play in the big league. Soccer’s international footprint remains its strongest advantage domesticially and it is an enduring one.

The big advantage the AFL has over the NRL and ARU is they do not share a heartland. NRL, ARU and even FFA are all based in Sydney – this battle is being fought in Sydney.

Redb

]]> By: Mark H http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/06/16/union-and-league-in-battle-for-third-says-oneill/comment-page-1/#comment-48753 Mark H Mon, 16 Jun 2008 02:34:04 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=7407#comment-48753 There is no doubt for mine that Australia is the most difficult country in the world for sports. No matter what code. Mr Rudd showed his cards when he dug in for soccer. Saying he'll do all he can for the SWC to come here in 2019 I think it was. I think it will go along way, but soccer needs the results. Anything less than a win and they will end up being treated like Union. League has some serious issues as does Union but, when it comes down to it, an international code will always dominate. People want to see hard fought battles. Aust v Ireland was that. Aust v NZ in league...almost killed international league. There is no comp world wide. I will be waiting to see how this RL WC pans out at the end of the year. AFL, is hurting as well dont worry about that, the Kangaroos, Demons, St Kilda and Hawthorn are on the ropes financially. There just isnt the money around anymore. Thats my 20c. There is no doubt for mine that Australia is the most difficult country in the world for sports. No matter what code.

Mr Rudd showed his cards when he dug in for soccer. Saying he’ll do all he can for the SWC to come here in 2019 I think it was. I think it will go along way, but soccer needs the results. Anything less than a win and they will end up being treated like Union.

League has some serious issues as does Union but, when it comes down to it, an international code will always dominate. People want to see hard fought battles. Aust v Ireland was that. Aust v NZ in league…almost killed international league. There is no comp world wide. I will be waiting to see how this RL WC pans out at the end of the year.

AFL, is hurting as well dont worry about that, the Kangaroos, Demons, St Kilda and Hawthorn are on the ropes financially. There just isnt the money around anymore. Thats my 20c.

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