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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52925</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimbo, spot on.

PS &quot;Maraschino&quot; eh? I always knew most Liverpool players were fruits ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimbo, spot on.</p>
<p>PS &#8220;Maraschino&#8221; eh? I always knew most Liverpool players were fruits <img src='http://www.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52921</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 02:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Messi, Maraschino, Requelme and Ronaldinho are defying their clubs and going to the Olmpics. If its an Olympic dream then live it. Just do it.

Playing in the Olympic football tounament in China would have to be a million times better and more satisfying personally than jogging around some training pitch in the suburbs of Istanbul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Messi, Maraschino, Requelme and Ronaldinho are defying their clubs and going to the Olmpics. If its an Olympic dream then live it. Just do it.</p>
<p>Playing in the Olympic football tounament in China would have to be a million times better and more satisfying personally than jogging around some training pitch in the suburbs of Istanbul.</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52917</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 01:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt. once does certainly seem to get the impression from sportspersons to support your viewpoint, but I still find it hard to believe that the opportunity to represent your country one of the very largest sporting events on the planet can be viewed as &#039;unimportant&#039;. 

Playing for a club week in week out is all very well and good, but the Olympics only comes along once every four years and for players like Kewell, the opportunity may never come along again. If it truly was always his dream, he surely would have made sure he was in the squad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt. once does certainly seem to get the impression from sportspersons to support your viewpoint, but I still find it hard to believe that the opportunity to represent your country one of the very largest sporting events on the planet can be viewed as &#8216;unimportant&#8217;. </p>
<p>Playing for a club week in week out is all very well and good, but the Olympics only comes along once every four years and for players like Kewell, the opportunity may never come along again. If it truly was always his dream, he surely would have made sure he was in the squad.</p>
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		<title>By: sledgeross</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52764</link>
		<dc:creator>sledgeross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 06:39:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Midfielder, please stop going on about how Harry was flogegd to death at Leeds by O&#039;leary. I provided the stats previously that Harry actually played less games than Gerrard, Rooney etc in his first 4 seasons in the EPL. SOme blokes are just injury prone, and they are payed quite well to play.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midfielder, please stop going on about how Harry was flogegd to death at Leeds by O&#8217;leary. I provided the stats previously that Harry actually played less games than Gerrard, Rooney etc in his first 4 seasons in the EPL. SOme blokes are just injury prone, and they are payed quite well to play.</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52715</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 02:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another good read Slippery Jim,
I think the Olympics have exposed the not so nice things about all sports and not just football.
Who can calculate how much money and drugs will change hands before, during and after the games and what priorities sportsman are placing on their own personal well being as opposed to their nation&#039;s.

Call me a bit of a traditionalist and a sucker for the national anthem, but I never got to play for my country and would&#039;ve given my right arm (not leg) to do so. These guys are good enough, get asked to and then turn their noses up at it. Gets me riled every time.

Harry, Bruce and Nathan have just as much chance of getting a season ending injury training with mad Turks and Greeks competing for limited first team places as they would&#039;ve playing for Australia at the Olympics. 
I bet that all 3 of them (if they stay injury free) will probably sit out the first part of the season for their club on the bench anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another good read Slippery Jim,<br />
I think the Olympics have exposed the not so nice things about all sports and not just football.<br />
Who can calculate how much money and drugs will change hands before, during and after the games and what priorities sportsman are placing on their own personal well being as opposed to their nation&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Call me a bit of a traditionalist and a sucker for the national anthem, but I never got to play for my country and would&#8217;ve given my right arm (not leg) to do so. These guys are good enough, get asked to and then turn their noses up at it. Gets me riled every time.</p>
<p>Harry, Bruce and Nathan have just as much chance of getting a season ending injury training with mad Turks and Greeks competing for limited first team places as they would&#8217;ve playing for Australia at the Olympics.<br />
I bet that all 3 of them (if they stay injury free) will probably sit out the first part of the season for their club on the bench anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52705</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Midfielder, I know you are a person with football experience, the point you make about injuries is an important one, Jamie Redknapp had &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-480228/JAMIE-REDKNAPP-ON-THE-GREAT-CLUB-VERSUS-COUNTRY-DEBATE--Perhaps-I-playing-hadn-t-injuries-I-picked-England-duty.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this to say&lt;/a&gt; about how playing for England effectively ended his career early due to injuries:

&lt;i&gt;&quot;In fact, playing for England left me with a big price to pay in more ways than one.

After 19 operations in my career, I had to pack it all in at the age of 31. The broken ankle I collected in Euro 96 playing against Scotland resulted in the knee injuries that forced me to give up.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I am not bitter. It was a great honour, but perhaps I could have still been playing now if it wasn&#039;t for the injuries picked up on England duty.

As a kid, I had represented England at Under 16, 18, 21 and B-team level. It was my dream to represent my country.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midfielder, I know you are a person with football experience, the point you make about injuries is an important one, Jamie Redknapp had <a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/article-480228/JAMIE-REDKNAPP-ON-THE-GREAT-CLUB-VERSUS-COUNTRY-DEBATE--Perhaps-I-playing-hadn-t-injuries-I-picked-England-duty.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">this to say</a> about how playing for England effectively ended his career early due to injuries:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;In fact, playing for England left me with a big price to pay in more ways than one.</p>
<p>After 19 operations in my career, I had to pack it all in at the age of 31. The broken ankle I collected in Euro 96 playing against Scotland resulted in the knee injuries that forced me to give up.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I am not bitter. It was a great honour, but perhaps I could have still been playing now if it wasn&#8217;t for the injuries picked up on England duty.</p>
<p>As a kid, I had represented England at Under 16, 18, 21 and B-team level. It was my dream to represent my country.&#8221;</i></p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52701</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 01:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to the Olympic Charter, established by Pierre de Coubertin, the goal of the Olympic Movement is &lt;i&gt;&quot;to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practised without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Is, then, the real role of the Olympics in modern sport to promote development of elite under-23 sportspersons on the world stage? If so, once again Arnold&#039;s selection of the older eligible players could perhaps be called into question as being contrary to the spirit of the games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Olympic Charter, established by Pierre de Coubertin, the goal of the Olympic Movement is <i>&#8220;to contribute to building a peaceful and better world by educating youth through sport practised without discrimination of any kind and in the Olympic spirit, which requires mutual understanding with a spirit of friendship, solidarity and fair play.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Is, then, the real role of the Olympics in modern sport to promote development of elite under-23 sportspersons on the world stage? If so, once again Arnold&#8217;s selection of the older eligible players could perhaps be called into question as being contrary to the spirit of the games.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 00:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To football fans, the olympics dont mean much at all to be honest.  I would actually like to see it pulled out all together.  The Olympics need football, Football does not need the Olympics.  The World Cup is the pinnacle.  Just like Wimbledon is in Tennis.

In terms of the biggest sporting event that you touched on above, its undoubtedly the world cup.  I read an interesting article a coupel years back comparing the Olympics to the World Cup ie sponsorship, ratings etc etc.  The world cup won hands down.  The Olympics are number 2 followed by the Euro&#039;s.  To all Rugby Fans, yes it is the Euros and not the the rugby world cup</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To football fans, the olympics dont mean much at all to be honest.  I would actually like to see it pulled out all together.  The Olympics need football, Football does not need the Olympics.  The World Cup is the pinnacle.  Just like Wimbledon is in Tennis.</p>
<p>In terms of the biggest sporting event that you touched on above, its undoubtedly the world cup.  I read an interesting article a coupel years back comparing the Olympics to the World Cup ie sponsorship, ratings etc etc.  The world cup won hands down.  The Olympics are number 2 followed by the Euro&#8217;s.  To all Rugby Fans, yes it is the Euros and not the the rugby world cup</p>
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		<title>By: True Tah</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Tah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Midfielder,

one clarification, rugby is not an Olympic sport, and I for one, hope it never becomes one - it cannot be played within a 2 week period, and we have enough issues with bullshit touring sides.

The Olympics should be regarded as the pinnacle in a sport, and I believe this is the case in athletics, swimmining, diving, gymnastics and boxing.  It is hard to justify having those sports you mentioned on these grounds, although the economic figures you supplied make it harder to drop these sports - were those figures including the Sydney Olympics, because I don&#039;t know if 50% of attendees at the 2000 Olympics were at soccer events, given that crowds to most sports were sold out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Midfielder,</p>
<p>one clarification, rugby is not an Olympic sport, and I for one, hope it never becomes one &#8211; it cannot be played within a 2 week period, and we have enough issues with bullshit touring sides.</p>
<p>The Olympics should be regarded as the pinnacle in a sport, and I believe this is the case in athletics, swimmining, diving, gymnastics and boxing.  It is hard to justify having those sports you mentioned on these grounds, although the economic figures you supplied make it harder to drop these sports &#8211; were those figures including the Sydney Olympics, because I don&#8217;t know if 50% of attendees at the 2000 Olympics were at soccer events, given that crowds to most sports were sold out.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52679</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 23:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Olympics are over-rated and as a sportsperson, only important to those who participate in a sport with nothing else going on 3 out of every 4 years.

Football, Basketball, Baseball, Tennis, Cycling (Road anyway) - all have Olympic glory a fair way down the list of achievements.  

Sure, they might come out like Harry Kewell did initially and promote the Games, but in reality, they could care less.

Regarding Bruce Djite and Nathan Burns missing out on Olyroos selection, don&#039;t be surprised if the decision wasn&#039;t made by Nathan and Bruce themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Olympics are over-rated and as a sportsperson, only important to those who participate in a sport with nothing else going on 3 out of every 4 years.</p>
<p>Football, Basketball, Baseball, Tennis, Cycling (Road anyway) &#8211; all have Olympic glory a fair way down the list of achievements.  </p>
<p>Sure, they might come out like Harry Kewell did initially and promote the Games, but in reality, they could care less.</p>
<p>Regarding Bruce Djite and Nathan Burns missing out on Olyroos selection, don&#8217;t be surprised if the decision wasn&#8217;t made by Nathan and Bruce themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: jimidon</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/08/the-olympics-expose-the-superficiality-of-modern-football/#comment-52658</link>
		<dc:creator>jimidon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Slippery Jim: the olympics are not considered to be fifa dates therfore clubs are under no obligation to release players over 23 years to play. that is why it is not up to HK whether he plays in the olympics and why it depended on whether he had signed for a new club. If you were CEO of Galataseray would you release him?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Slippery Jim: the olympics are not considered to be fifa dates therfore clubs are under no obligation to release players over 23 years to play. that is why it is not up to HK whether he plays in the olympics and why it depended on whether he had signed for a new club. If you were CEO of Galataseray would you release him?</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slippery

Aside from a few of the minor sports everything at the Olympics is professional now. On football at the Olympics FIFA was on the verge of withdrawing from the Olympics in the mid 90&#039;s. FIFA were talked into staying the problem the Olympics is on when the European leagues are going, and FIFA have their own world cup for the best and did not want the Olympic saying the Olympic football is bigger than the world cup.

The Olympic did an analysis of the games and determined that just over 50% of the crowd in most games comes from watching the fotball matches and something like 47% of revenue comes from football so if FIFA withdrew the Olympics would collaspe.

FIFA agreed to stay with the U 23 comp, but asked the Olympic (which is close to half made up of FIFA officals) committee to get revenue from a wider base, thus tennis, golf and rugby were brought in to help increase revenue so some of the minor sports could continue to be played.

On HK .......... he was flogged to death by O&#039;Leary, said his body was breaking down and could not get back to play for Australia ......... many said BS ......... at the Knob his body breaks down ........... was not BS.

IMO a person has the right to get paid for playing sport if you are good enough, if you can find time in a sporting life to play for your country and RISK YES RISK  (look at Owen) your career then we should say thank you, when the person says I can&#039;t make it say OK, the better post career media deals will go to those that always put their hand up always has.

IMO playing for your nation is an honour but not at the expense of your career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slippery</p>
<p>Aside from a few of the minor sports everything at the Olympics is professional now. On football at the Olympics FIFA was on the verge of withdrawing from the Olympics in the mid 90&#8217;s. FIFA were talked into staying the problem the Olympics is on when the European leagues are going, and FIFA have their own world cup for the best and did not want the Olympic saying the Olympic football is bigger than the world cup.</p>
<p>The Olympic did an analysis of the games and determined that just over 50% of the crowd in most games comes from watching the fotball matches and something like 47% of revenue comes from football so if FIFA withdrew the Olympics would collaspe.</p>
<p>FIFA agreed to stay with the U 23 comp, but asked the Olympic (which is close to half made up of FIFA officals) committee to get revenue from a wider base, thus tennis, golf and rugby were brought in to help increase revenue so some of the minor sports could continue to be played.</p>
<p>On HK &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. he was flogged to death by O&#8217;Leary, said his body was breaking down and could not get back to play for Australia &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; many said BS &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; at the Knob his body breaks down &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.. was not BS.</p>
<p>IMO a person has the right to get paid for playing sport if you are good enough, if you can find time in a sporting life to play for your country and RISK YES RISK  (look at Owen) your career then we should say thank you, when the person says I can&#8217;t make it say OK, the better post career media deals will go to those that always put their hand up always has.</p>
<p>IMO playing for your nation is an honour but not at the expense of your career.</p>
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