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	<title>Comments on: The Beijing Olympics: wake me when it&#8217;s over</title>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57401</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is fair to say that the manner in which golds are handed out (all medals for that matter) is quite anomalous right across the various sports.   A gymnast can end up with an absolute swag of medals, team and individual, some about which they barely would have had any knowledge (other sports like weightlifting are in a similar boat), while the sport with the greatest appeal and with the longest period in qualification and determining the positions for medals, i.e. football, hands out a solitary gold.

Perhaps further football golds could be considered, such as:
1.  highest individual goal scorer;
2.  best player of the tournament; 
3.  best keeper;
4. most spectacular goal.

A panel of highly esteemed judges from every corner of the globe could ajudge nos 2 to 4.  Let&#039;s be honest, it could hardly be any more arbitrary than a whole swag of golds that can handed our for a variety of human endeavour - the vast bulk of it barely any more interesting than the game of sjoelbak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is fair to say that the manner in which golds are handed out (all medals for that matter) is quite anomalous right across the various sports.   A gymnast can end up with an absolute swag of medals, team and individual, some about which they barely would have had any knowledge (other sports like weightlifting are in a similar boat), while the sport with the greatest appeal and with the longest period in qualification and determining the positions for medals, i.e. football, hands out a solitary gold.</p>
<p>Perhaps further football golds could be considered, such as:<br />
1.  highest individual goal scorer;<br />
2.  best player of the tournament;<br />
3.  best keeper;<br />
4. most spectacular goal.</p>
<p>A panel of highly esteemed judges from every corner of the globe could ajudge nos 2 to 4.  Let&#8217;s be honest, it could hardly be any more arbitrary than a whole swag of golds that can handed our for a variety of human endeavour &#8211; the vast bulk of it barely any more interesting than the game of sjoelbak.</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57386</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Phil Coorey, that&#039;s the most ridiculous thing I&#039;ve ever heard, except for Fragglerocker&#039;s statement. Baseball is the most boring sport in the world, followed closely by cricket. I am yet to meet in the flesh a single Australian who follows it. Winning gold at the Olympics is one of the very highest honors for any sportsperson, one that very few achieve, no matter the sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Phil Coorey, that&#8217;s the most ridiculous thing I&#8217;ve ever heard, except for Fragglerocker&#8217;s statement. Baseball is the most boring sport in the world, followed closely by cricket. I am yet to meet in the flesh a single Australian who follows it. Winning gold at the Olympics is one of the very highest honors for any sportsperson, one that very few achieve, no matter the sport.</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57384</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 02:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fragglerocker, so the Olympics are responsible for Aussie kids becoming couch potatoes. Forgive me for not following your superlative logic and reasoning there buddy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fragglerocker, so the Olympics are responsible for Aussie kids becoming couch potatoes. Forgive me for not following your superlative logic and reasoning there buddy.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57312</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fragglerocker
I support everything you said (except maybe the rugby bit)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fragglerocker<br />
I support everything you said (except maybe the rugby bit)</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Carnage</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57158</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Carnage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 10:13:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pippinu,

Did I mention I&#039;m opening a new restaurant as well...?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pippinu,</p>
<p>Did I mention I&#8217;m opening a new restaurant as well&#8230;?!</p>
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		<title>By: Fragglerocker</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57153</link>
		<dc:creator>Fragglerocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My 1st problem with the olympics - No rugby
2nd problem - way too much taxpayers money being wasted. 
3rd problem - No rugby (One of the founding sports of the modern olympics I might add)

During the Athens games I did some calculations based on the budget figures and realised a few interesting facts: 

It cost every single taxpayer an average of $40 to send our team. 

For every dollar of taxpayers money actually spent on promoting sports in this country (providing facilities &amp; equipment, upgrading grounds, funding coaches and officials, investing in kids sporting programs, etc) four dollars goes to fund a bunch of elitist wankers trotting over to the games to participate in sports virtually no-one in this country takes part in or gives a rat&#039;s arse about at any other time. And then when they&#039;re millionaires none of the money is repayed. What about a hex debt?

Think of it this way - every time you see an Australian receiving a medal, just remember it represents a public swimming pool that wasn&#039;t built or a sports ground that could&#039;ve been contructed - and then tell me it was worth it. No wonder our kids are becoming couch potatoes.

The most disgraceful moment in Australian sports was during the Kuala Lumpur Commonwealth games when an overly jingoistic journalist poked fun at a Canadian swimming coach after we had thrashed them in the pool. When he was then asked if he felt totally humiliated he replied that he wasn&#039;t, when he considered that the funding given to the Australian swimming team was seven times the funding given by every other country in the commmonwealth for every sport combined. We aren&#039;t respected as a sporting nation anymore, we&#039;re merely considered the new East Germany. 

Three cheers for us - I&#039;ll be changing channels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My 1st problem with the olympics &#8211; No rugby<br />
2nd problem &#8211; way too much taxpayers money being wasted.<br />
3rd problem &#8211; No rugby (One of the founding sports of the modern olympics I might add)</p>
<p>During the Athens games I did some calculations based on the budget figures and realised a few interesting facts: </p>
<p>It cost every single taxpayer an average of $40 to send our team. </p>
<p>For every dollar of taxpayers money actually spent on promoting sports in this country (providing facilities &amp; equipment, upgrading grounds, funding coaches and officials, investing in kids sporting programs, etc) four dollars goes to fund a bunch of elitist wankers trotting over to the games to participate in sports virtually no-one in this country takes part in or gives a rat&#8217;s arse about at any other time. And then when they&#8217;re millionaires none of the money is repayed. What about a hex debt?</p>
<p>Think of it this way &#8211; every time you see an Australian receiving a medal, just remember it represents a public swimming pool that wasn&#8217;t built or a sports ground that could&#8217;ve been contructed &#8211; and then tell me it was worth it. No wonder our kids are becoming couch potatoes.</p>
<p>The most disgraceful moment in Australian sports was during the Kuala Lumpur Commonwealth games when an overly jingoistic journalist poked fun at a Canadian swimming coach after we had thrashed them in the pool. When he was then asked if he felt totally humiliated he replied that he wasn&#8217;t, when he considered that the funding given to the Australian swimming team was seven times the funding given by every other country in the commmonwealth for every sport combined. We aren&#8217;t respected as a sporting nation anymore, we&#8217;re merely considered the new East Germany. </p>
<p>Three cheers for us &#8211; I&#8217;ll be changing channels.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Coorey</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57149</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil Coorey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d rather see an Aussie do really well in baseball in America - than watch them win a gold medal in a tournament where almost all countries are under strength.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather see an Aussie do really well in baseball in America &#8211; than watch them win a gold medal in a tournament where almost all countries are under strength.</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57145</link>
		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 09:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a big fan of professionals competing at the Olympics, and I think the 1992 Dream Team set a bad precedent in that regard, but considering how many NBA players jump straight out of high school or leave college early, I think professional sports have played their part in eroding the honour of representing your country. 

Of course the NBA also opened the gates to foreign players whose national teams keep knocking off the US in the World Championships and Olympics, so I guess professionalism works both ways. 

And then there&#039;s the fact that Americans don&#039;t take international team sports seriously anyway, since they either clash with regular seasons or interrupt off seasons. 

I also think there should be respect for team sports that haven&#039;t lost their sense of tradition at the Olympics, like ice hockey, where all the countries take it seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of professionals competing at the Olympics, and I think the 1992 Dream Team set a bad precedent in that regard, but considering how many NBA players jump straight out of high school or leave college early, I think professional sports have played their part in eroding the honour of representing your country. </p>
<p>Of course the NBA also opened the gates to foreign players whose national teams keep knocking off the US in the World Championships and Olympics, so I guess professionalism works both ways. </p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s the fact that Americans don&#8217;t take international team sports seriously anyway, since they either clash with regular seasons or interrupt off seasons. </p>
<p>I also think there should be respect for team sports that haven&#8217;t lost their sense of tradition at the Olympics, like ice hockey, where all the countries take it seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Millster</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57135</link>
		<dc:creator>Millster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh wait a sec MC...

You are presuming that people are distanced enough from particular sports to only think that the pinnacle is national representation. If you look closer its often different.

I&#039;m as or more proud of Aussie footballers who are REALLY cutting it in a UCL game than in a Socceroo international.

I&#039;m as or more proud of Cadel Evans in Silence-Lotto colours tearing up the Alps as I would be of him in a &#039;national&#039; rep race.

I&#039;m far more proud of Bogut doing his thing in the NBA each week than in the Boomers.

Probably overstating my point but there is something about an Aussie representing at the truly highest level - even if that highest level happens to be a commercial team or a club.

I&#039;m thinking the Davis Cup is probably the only partial exception to this rule for me, but I think maybe unfairly as I have fallen for its jingoistic appeal and in reality should look to the Grand Slams alone for that pride in the sport of tennis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wait a sec MC&#8230;</p>
<p>You are presuming that people are distanced enough from particular sports to only think that the pinnacle is national representation. If you look closer its often different.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m as or more proud of Aussie footballers who are REALLY cutting it in a UCL game than in a Socceroo international.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m as or more proud of Cadel Evans in Silence-Lotto colours tearing up the Alps as I would be of him in a &#8216;national&#8217; rep race.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m far more proud of Bogut doing his thing in the NBA each week than in the Boomers.</p>
<p>Probably overstating my point but there is something about an Aussie representing at the truly highest level &#8211; even if that highest level happens to be a commercial team or a club.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking the Davis Cup is probably the only partial exception to this rule for me, but I think maybe unfairly as I have fallen for its jingoistic appeal and in reality should look to the Grand Slams alone for that pride in the sport of tennis.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57129</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ONe important factor about the Olympics - - 

you really are in it for your country - - 

and, because all the sports are on show together, and you are part of the broader &#039;olympic team&#039;,

well, that means that all of a sudden, the shot putter, the rifleman and Lauren Jackson are &#039;team mates&#039;, and contributing to the same medal tally.

That&#039;s what makes the olympics special, and that&#039;s what gives people that national joyous exposure OUTSIDE of their regular fan base - - and that&#039;s why high profile gold medals are super important, which is why we remember the frustrations and joys of the Kookaburras at the Olympics well ahead of at the World Champs,

and why Jana, despite being World Champ, the Olympics were the &#039;goal&#039; - - - - the world champs by comparison, is really just individuals who happen to be &#039;Australian&#039;.....a bit like expat Australian soccer players overseas - - - they really are of no consequence unless they might play for the Socceroos....otherwise....they&#039;re just more &#039;global&#039; professionals doing their thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ONe important factor about the Olympics &#8211; - </p>
<p>you really are in it for your country &#8211; - </p>
<p>and, because all the sports are on show together, and you are part of the broader &#8216;olympic team&#8217;,</p>
<p>well, that means that all of a sudden, the shot putter, the rifleman and Lauren Jackson are &#8216;team mates&#8217;, and contributing to the same medal tally.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what makes the olympics special, and that&#8217;s what gives people that national joyous exposure OUTSIDE of their regular fan base &#8211; - and that&#8217;s why high profile gold medals are super important, which is why we remember the frustrations and joys of the Kookaburras at the Olympics well ahead of at the World Champs,</p>
<p>and why Jana, despite being World Champ, the Olympics were the &#8216;goal&#8217; &#8211; - &#8211; - the world champs by comparison, is really just individuals who happen to be &#8216;Australian&#8217;&#8230;..a bit like expat Australian soccer players overseas &#8211; - &#8211; they really are of no consequence unless they might play for the Socceroos&#8230;.otherwise&#8230;.they&#8217;re just more &#8216;global&#8217; professionals doing their thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57117</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Captain Carnage
heh, heh - grist to the proverbial mill!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Captain Carnage<br />
heh, heh &#8211; grist to the proverbial mill!!</p>
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		<title>By: md</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57115</link>
		<dc:creator>md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jimbo - really?  Well - whatever turns you on I suppose.  
Cheers
md</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jimbo &#8211; really?  Well &#8211; whatever turns you on I suppose.<br />
Cheers<br />
md</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57111</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The man is on a roll!</description>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57107</link>
		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks guys,
I keep the deadpan under the bed just in case I get the urge in the middle of the night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks guys,<br />
I keep the deadpan under the bed just in case I get the urge in the middle of the night.</p>
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		<title>By: Captain Carnage</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57106</link>
		<dc:creator>Captain Carnage</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 07:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether these sports are confusing, boring, pompous, self-indulgent, semi-professional or all of the above...they sure are fun for the average Aussie sportsfan to blog about!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether these sports are confusing, boring, pompous, self-indulgent, semi-professional or all of the above&#8230;they sure are fun for the average Aussie sportsfan to blog about!</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57100</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes - that Jimbo could manage a deadpan delivery with plain text is perhaps the funniest part!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes &#8211; that Jimbo could manage a deadpan delivery with plain text is perhaps the funniest part!</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57091</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>jimbo, I also laughed out loud as we say on the internet. I&#039;m not sure how you managed a deadpan delivery via text, perhaps it was the choice not to use ;) but whatever it was, it worked. Kudos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jimbo, I also laughed out loud as we say on the internet. I&#8217;m not sure how you managed a deadpan delivery via text, perhaps it was the choice not to use <img src='http://www.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  but whatever it was, it worked. Kudos.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57085</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave
I think you&#039;re spot on about both Lauren Jackson and Marta.

Jimbo
That joke is as old as the hills but I still laughed out loud - perhaps it was your deadpan delivery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave<br />
I think you&#8217;re spot on about both Lauren Jackson and Marta.</p>
<p>Jimbo<br />
That joke is as old as the hills but I still laughed out loud &#8211; perhaps it was your deadpan delivery.</p>
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		<title>By: Davo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57082</link>
		<dc:creator>Davo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is no doubt the collection of sports currently making up the Olympics, especially team sports is somewhat motley. I am dead against golf and rugby sevens going into the Olympics but they probably have as much right as some other sports. Now that soccer&#039;s there I am happy to watch it and you can guarantee any nation with a team in it will follow it passionately. But as someone else wrote, the Olympics is a theatre to be enjoyed and we can debate whether or not certain &quot;cast members&quot; should be there but the sports roster has obviously evolved over time to where it is in 2008 with much bickering and backroom deals. BMX, the participation of the USA Dream Team, synchro swimming et al can be debated as to whether they should be there or not but it all adds character to each Games. 

For many womens sports the Games appear to still be the pinnacle more so than the mens. Probably as the pro money isnt their to the same degree....I reckon Lauren jackson would take a gold to a WNBA title anyday. I&#039;m no soccer expert but I wonder if Marta and the Brazilians would value an Olympic gold ahead of the women&#039;s world cup ??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no doubt the collection of sports currently making up the Olympics, especially team sports is somewhat motley. I am dead against golf and rugby sevens going into the Olympics but they probably have as much right as some other sports. Now that soccer&#8217;s there I am happy to watch it and you can guarantee any nation with a team in it will follow it passionately. But as someone else wrote, the Olympics is a theatre to be enjoyed and we can debate whether or not certain &#8220;cast members&#8221; should be there but the sports roster has obviously evolved over time to where it is in 2008 with much bickering and backroom deals. BMX, the participation of the USA Dream Team, synchro swimming et al can be debated as to whether they should be there or not but it all adds character to each Games. </p>
<p>For many womens sports the Games appear to still be the pinnacle more so than the mens. Probably as the pro money isnt their to the same degree&#8230;.I reckon Lauren jackson would take a gold to a WNBA title anyday. I&#8217;m no soccer expert but I wonder if Marta and the Brazilians would value an Olympic gold ahead of the women&#8217;s world cup ??</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>md,
I also found out that water polo has a 30 second shot clock thanks to a water polo Olympian being interviewed on ABC radio.

What could you do with a ball in a pool in 30 seconds?

Last time I played water polo, my horse drowned</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>md,<br />
I also found out that water polo has a 30 second shot clock thanks to a water polo Olympian being interviewed on ABC radio.</p>
<p>What could you do with a ball in a pool in 30 seconds?</p>
<p>Last time I played water polo, my horse drowned</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_football_team

True Tah 

Cant speak for other countries but I can speak for the United Kingdom.
They are not interested in the Olympic football tournament because they are not in it. See above link for reasons. 
I think its a bit of a myth that traditional football countries are myopic &amp; are only interested in football at the Olympics.
They would in my opinion have more a lukewarm approach in comparison to Australia to the games overall but they would not be glued to &quot;Football only&quot;. I say this because it appears to me from crowd figures at lower age football that Europeans in particular(because they have a saturation of quality matches) are only  really interested in their National Senior team,so I doubt anyway that Olympic football would be high on their list of football priorities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_football_team" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_national_football_team</a></p>
<p>True Tah </p>
<p>Cant speak for other countries but I can speak for the United Kingdom.<br />
They are not interested in the Olympic football tournament because they are not in it. See above link for reasons.<br />
I think its a bit of a myth that traditional football countries are myopic &amp; are only interested in football at the Olympics.<br />
They would in my opinion have more a lukewarm approach in comparison to Australia to the games overall but they would not be glued to &#8220;Football only&#8221;. I say this because it appears to me from crowd figures at lower age football that Europeans in particular(because they have a saturation of quality matches) are only  really interested in their National Senior team,so I doubt anyway that Olympic football would be high on their list of football priorities.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57072</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:57:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael C and md
about time you blokes showed up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael C and md<br />
about time you blokes showed up!</p>
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		<title>By: md</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57069</link>
		<dc:creator>md</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:48:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pippinu,
I am astounded that you would deprive me of my opportunity to become an expert in so much of the pointless and mundane that is the heart and soul of the Olympics.  

By the end of the olympics, I will be able to distinguish, to within .1 of a point the difference between a good dive and a bad dive (currently my expertise in this field is limited to football matches against asian nations), a good floor routine and an average one (again my expertise is presently limited to football matches against asian nations - usually when they are 1:0 up), a perfect syncronised swilling routine and a poor one (not to mention commenting on the British team&#039;s awful teeth).  

These are all rare and dare I say it, golden moments that we as sports lovers should collectively treasure.
Cheers
md.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pippinu,<br />
I am astounded that you would deprive me of my opportunity to become an expert in so much of the pointless and mundane that is the heart and soul of the Olympics.  </p>
<p>By the end of the olympics, I will be able to distinguish, to within .1 of a point the difference between a good dive and a bad dive (currently my expertise in this field is limited to football matches against asian nations), a good floor routine and an average one (again my expertise is presently limited to football matches against asian nations &#8211; usually when they are 1:0 up), a perfect syncronised swilling routine and a poor one (not to mention commenting on the British team&#8217;s awful teeth).  </p>
<p>These are all rare and dare I say it, golden moments that we as sports lovers should collectively treasure.<br />
Cheers<br />
md.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57068</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:46:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to see the Olympics free of super scientific swim suits - - - unless everyone has them.

I&#039;d like to see all the cyclists on the same model bike,

but, in reality, why should I worry about the inequitity at the event itself,

we know that training and preparation creates huge inequitities,

so......since you can&#039;t get all too serious about any of it.........why not just enjoy the theatre that is the olympics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to see the Olympics free of super scientific swim suits &#8211; - &#8211; unless everyone has them.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see all the cyclists on the same model bike,</p>
<p>but, in reality, why should I worry about the inequitity at the event itself,</p>
<p>we know that training and preparation creates huge inequitities,</p>
<p>so&#8230;&#8230;since you can&#8217;t get all too serious about any of it&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;why not just enjoy the theatre that is the olympics.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57059</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:26:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ohtani
the point remains that what is and isn&#039;t included in the program is all over the shop - and it caters to a whole range of exigencies that rarely relate to whether the particular sport treats the Olympics as the pinnacle.

I would put it to you that for many of the team sports on the program, it has become ambiguous as to whether the Olympic gold is more valuable than a world championship.

Now people might turn around and say:  if such ambiguity exists, so what?

And I would respond:  precisely!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ohtani<br />
the point remains that what is and isn&#8217;t included in the program is all over the shop &#8211; and it caters to a whole range of exigencies that rarely relate to whether the particular sport treats the Olympics as the pinnacle.</p>
<p>I would put it to you that for many of the team sports on the program, it has become ambiguous as to whether the Olympic gold is more valuable than a world championship.</p>
<p>Now people might turn around and say:  if such ambiguity exists, so what?</p>
<p>And I would respond:  precisely!</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;ll find that the Olympic gold medal is still the pinnacle for most of the sports, despite yearly world championships and other high profile events. You can be a multiple time world champion in a lot of these sports and still have a blight on your career if you&#039;ve never won the gold. 

With all due respect, I don&#039;t understand the gripes about sports you don&#039;t follow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;ll find that the Olympic gold medal is still the pinnacle for most of the sports, despite yearly world championships and other high profile events. You can be a multiple time world champion in a lot of these sports and still have a blight on your career if you&#8217;ve never won the gold. </p>
<p>With all due respect, I don&#8217;t understand the gripes about sports you don&#8217;t follow.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57050</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>KB
I honestly would never have considered any of our previous robust discussions anything more than that.

As you can see, this is my very first venture in the Roar, I only signed up last night, and sent this article in off the cuff late last night.  

As to photos - I loaded up the striking US Palermo logo instead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KB<br />
I honestly would never have considered any of our previous robust discussions anything more than that.</p>
<p>As you can see, this is my very first venture in the Roar, I only signed up last night, and sent this article in off the cuff late last night.  </p>
<p>As to photos &#8211; I loaded up the striking US Palermo logo instead.</p>
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		<title>By: Koala Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>Koala Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pippinu,
I see you are in the red corner and a ROAR columnist as it seems, but no mug shot .. We have had our disagreements in the past, but I would dearly love to see what you look like.. :) 

~~~~~~~~~
KB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pippinu,<br />
I see you are in the red corner and a ROAR columnist as it seems, but no mug shot .. We have had our disagreements in the past, but I would dearly love to see what you look like.. <img src='http://www.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>~~~~~~~~~<br />
KB</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57047</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True Tah
To limit the Olympic games in scope to those sports for which it is the pinnacle makes good sense to me, and perhaps 40 years ago that might have been very close to the reality.

But in the meantime, virtually everything now has some sort of world cup or world championship, and I&#039;m wondering whether there&#039;s anything left for which the Olympics is the absolute pinnacle?

At the end of the day, this may well be at the heart of my gripe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Tah<br />
To limit the Olympic games in scope to those sports for which it is the pinnacle makes good sense to me, and perhaps 40 years ago that might have been very close to the reality.</p>
<p>But in the meantime, virtually everything now has some sort of world cup or world championship, and I&#8217;m wondering whether there&#8217;s anything left for which the Olympics is the absolute pinnacle?</p>
<p>At the end of the day, this may well be at the heart of my gripe.</p>
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		<title>By: True Tah</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/07/24/the-olympics-wake-me-when-its-over/#comment-57046</link>
		<dc:creator>True Tah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pippinu,

there has been talk of rugby being included in Olympics before, but thankfully this talk came to naught.

Some of the sports are debatable, but ideally winning a gold medal should be the pinnacle of that sport.  On that basis, sport such as soccer, tennis, basketball and baseball would be excluded.

I do think the Olympics would keep going without soccer.  I guess one of the attractions re the Olympics is that there are many differant sports you can follow, well in Australia we all got involved in all sports.  From the comments I am seeing, it seems that in countries where soccer is the only sport followed, the people of that country only pay lip services to other sports in the Olympics - would that be a fair comment?

In which case, should the IOC award Olympics to countries where a variety of sports are likely to attract attention, and not ones where soccer is the extent of the local sporting scene?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pippinu,</p>
<p>there has been talk of rugby being included in Olympics before, but thankfully this talk came to naught.</p>
<p>Some of the sports are debatable, but ideally winning a gold medal should be the pinnacle of that sport.  On that basis, sport such as soccer, tennis, basketball and baseball would be excluded.</p>
<p>I do think the Olympics would keep going without soccer.  I guess one of the attractions re the Olympics is that there are many differant sports you can follow, well in Australia we all got involved in all sports.  From the comments I am seeing, it seems that in countries where soccer is the only sport followed, the people of that country only pay lip services to other sports in the Olympics &#8211; would that be a fair comment?</p>
<p>In which case, should the IOC award Olympics to countries where a variety of sports are likely to attract attention, and not ones where soccer is the extent of the local sporting scene?</p>
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