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	<title>Comments on: The FFA serves the &#8216;bad China&#8217; and we want answers</title>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We now all understand that PIm is cautious (perhaps ultra cautious), so heading into Tashkent in  10 days time, do people expect Pim to go in with all guns blazaing?  4-2-4?

Forget about the 2nd half the other day, there were about 6 changes.

Look to the first half, at least 9 of the 11 will be playing in those same positions and it will be a very similar structure (something like a 4-2-2-1-1).

The South African manager should be worrying more about where his team is currently ranked than whether Australia plays like Brazil (who have played pragmatically since at least 1994).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We now all understand that PIm is cautious (perhaps ultra cautious), so heading into Tashkent in  10 days time, do people expect Pim to go in with all guns blazaing?  4-2-4?</p>
<p>Forget about the 2nd half the other day, there were about 6 changes.</p>
<p>Look to the first half, at least 9 of the 11 will be playing in those same positions and it will be a very similar structure (something like a 4-2-2-1-1).</p>
<p>The South African manager should be worrying more about where his team is currently ranked than whether Australia plays like Brazil (who have played pragmatically since at least 1994).</p>
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		<title>By: jimbo</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After the game today, SA coach Santana said &quot;South Africa are similar to Brazil in the way they play - my players treat the ball with love and care,&quot; 

&quot;That&#039;s why we play football. I would never want to play the way Australia play - my players don&#039;t have those characteristics.&quot;

Being Dutch isn&#039;t everything and I can&#039;t say I disagree especially after the second half performance.
We are a bit underdone and will get done by the Uzbeks in a couple of weeks, if we keep playing for a defensive draw.

BTW there are 13 football programs (about 20 hours of football) on Fox Sports tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the game today, SA coach Santana said &#8220;South Africa are similar to Brazil in the way they play &#8211; my players treat the ball with love and care,&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s why we play football. I would never want to play the way Australia play &#8211; my players don&#8217;t have those characteristics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Being Dutch isn&#8217;t everything and I can&#8217;t say I disagree especially after the second half performance.<br />
We are a bit underdone and will get done by the Uzbeks in a couple of weeks, if we keep playing for a defensive draw.</p>
<p>BTW there are 13 football programs (about 20 hours of football) on Fox Sports tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dasilva 

Agree ...... who will be next I hope Dutch so as not to break the pattern and style we have been heading for. At the same time local coaches should be inivited to look and see how its done.

TBH any if not all the A-League coaches and maybe a couple og the old NSL coaches could do with a bit more training .. it would be good for the A-League ...... remember all but Kossie &amp; Mitchell (he was not appointed at the time)m went overseas to improve and its in the coaching were we need to improve.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dasilva </p>
<p>Agree &#8230;&#8230; who will be next I hope Dutch so as not to break the pattern and style we have been heading for. At the same time local coaches should be inivited to look and see how its done.</p>
<p>TBH any if not all the A-League coaches and maybe a couple og the old NSL coaches could do with a bit more training .. it would be good for the A-League &#8230;&#8230; remember all but Kossie &amp; Mitchell (he was not appointed at the time)m went overseas to improve and its in the coaching were we need to improve.</p>
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		<title>By: dasilva</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cpaaa, just be patient. Arnold will be sack at least from the under 23 side within a fortnight or so and there is signs that he may even resign as assistant coach of soccerroos. Look at Pim picking bruce Djite to the soccerroos squad and Arnold not even attending the match even though the olympics is over. Its quite suspicious that the assistant coach did not attend Australia vs South Africa. while he is holidaying in Beijing. 

Mark my word, he will be gone by the end of this month at the most.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cpaaa, just be patient. Arnold will be sack at least from the under 23 side within a fortnight or so and there is signs that he may even resign as assistant coach of soccerroos. Look at Pim picking bruce Djite to the soccerroos squad and Arnold not even attending the match even though the olympics is over. Its quite suspicious that the assistant coach did not attend Australia vs South Africa. while he is holidaying in Beijing. </p>
<p>Mark my word, he will be gone by the end of this month at the most.</p>
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		<title>By: Cpaaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpaaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..sorry just got back in. slippery jim your suggestion on the hire format instead of sackarnold dosnt do it for me and it sounds far to polite. im over giving this man a chance after chance and he still thinks he should be there. he dosnt have the charisma to be choosing and running our elite, actually he dosnt tick any of the boxes at all. i think sackarnold is as polite and diplomatic as it can possibly get. 
Gary Van Egmond...yep sounds like a good choice to me. only a pity we didnt have him at these olympics, im sure Nicky Carle would of had a look in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..sorry just got back in. slippery jim your suggestion on the hire format instead of sackarnold dosnt do it for me and it sounds far to polite. im over giving this man a chance after chance and he still thinks he should be there. he dosnt have the charisma to be choosing and running our elite, actually he dosnt tick any of the boxes at all. i think sackarnold is as polite and diplomatic as it can possibly get.<br />
Gary Van Egmond&#8230;yep sounds like a good choice to me. only a pity we didnt have him at these olympics, im sure Nicky Carle would of had a look in.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bear

Welcome to the Roar love the psots love the passion.

Also and for the record as was heard at Spirit Point after about 12 rounds ........ ARNOLD OUT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear</p>
<p>Welcome to the Roar love the psots love the passion.</p>
<p>Also and for the record as was heard at Spirit Point after about 12 rounds &#8230;&#8230;.. ARNOLD OUT</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indeed, The Bear, great post, interesting thoughts, you have finally convinced me to give you a cheer (to be completely honest I can&#039;t remember if I have given you one already). I have made similar comments about the great &quot;is sport art&quot; debate in the past...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indeed, The Bear, great post, interesting thoughts, you have finally convinced me to give you a cheer (to be completely honest I can&#8217;t remember if I have given you one already). I have made similar comments about the great &#8220;is sport art&#8221; debate in the past&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought i&#039;d pop my head in sometime tonight, and what do i see, Slippery Jim offering something positive, more than a Devil&#039;s Advocate in your kit bag, eh?

I&#039;d throw my support for the Egg.  Especially if it means not having to write an essay of Russian Art in the Modern Era for Jim, though i definitely have a soft spot for kooky Minimalist Art.  

Don&#039;t get me started on Dadaism, tho, you won&#039;t hear the end of it.

Slippery Jim, i have finally resolved our impasse.  I do not live in a black and white world, though I think you believe otherwise.  I push for playmakers, cos we have an abundance of players who could be called workhorses in the squad incl. Wilkshire, Beauchamp and Holman.  If caution mandates that Pim leave playmakers like Carle on the bench, then he will live or die with those decisions.  If we continue to fail to create opportunites, let alone finish  them, then he will criticised for that.  I am only pushing for a balanced squad.

I appreciate both edges of the blade, to be honest.  Finesse and fitness.  In Football, the marriage of the two is ideal, in any one player, but we must accept that is rarely the case in reality.  So in Art I can appreciate an IKBlue canvas, and call that Art, as much as a French Impressionist canvas of Water Lillies, or a Dutch styled photo-realist Potrait.  Also i like rugs, and tapestries...but that&#039;s not Art, that&#039;s Craft (sorry, could not help to throw that jibe in).

Anyway, the main point is, for me, Football can be Artistic, sure.  But it is not Art, in itself.  It is Sport, &quot;at the end of the day&quot;.   So any metaphor you care to use to address aspects of the Artistry of Sport will ultimately fail.  Conversely, it goes the same for saying there is Sport in Art, and some Artists may feel competitive (Picasso, ...?maybe) and goal driven, but it would be the exception.   Art is transcendent of competition, that&#039;s why it works so well, as &quot;ART&quot;

BTW, Anti-Football would be to score goals, in your own net.  I don&#039;t even think Arnold would go that far to prove he has his own &quot;vision&quot; of a unique style of Football.  He may prove to be a decent coach one day, but he hasn&#039;t got the goods, especially at International level, yet.  

And why should he?  It took Guus alot of time and experiences to be Guus.

Let&#039;s shake hands and move on, yeah ; )

Graciously, 
The Bear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought i&#8217;d pop my head in sometime tonight, and what do i see, Slippery Jim offering something positive, more than a Devil&#8217;s Advocate in your kit bag, eh?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d throw my support for the Egg.  Especially if it means not having to write an essay of Russian Art in the Modern Era for Jim, though i definitely have a soft spot for kooky Minimalist Art.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me started on Dadaism, tho, you won&#8217;t hear the end of it.</p>
<p>Slippery Jim, i have finally resolved our impasse.  I do not live in a black and white world, though I think you believe otherwise.  I push for playmakers, cos we have an abundance of players who could be called workhorses in the squad incl. Wilkshire, Beauchamp and Holman.  If caution mandates that Pim leave playmakers like Carle on the bench, then he will live or die with those decisions.  If we continue to fail to create opportunites, let alone finish  them, then he will criticised for that.  I am only pushing for a balanced squad.</p>
<p>I appreciate both edges of the blade, to be honest.  Finesse and fitness.  In Football, the marriage of the two is ideal, in any one player, but we must accept that is rarely the case in reality.  So in Art I can appreciate an IKBlue canvas, and call that Art, as much as a French Impressionist canvas of Water Lillies, or a Dutch styled photo-realist Potrait.  Also i like rugs, and tapestries&#8230;but that&#8217;s not Art, that&#8217;s Craft (sorry, could not help to throw that jibe in).</p>
<p>Anyway, the main point is, for me, Football can be Artistic, sure.  But it is not Art, in itself.  It is Sport, &#8220;at the end of the day&#8221;.   So any metaphor you care to use to address aspects of the Artistry of Sport will ultimately fail.  Conversely, it goes the same for saying there is Sport in Art, and some Artists may feel competitive (Picasso, &#8230;?maybe) and goal driven, but it would be the exception.   Art is transcendent of competition, that&#8217;s why it works so well, as &#8220;ART&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW, Anti-Football would be to score goals, in your own net.  I don&#8217;t even think Arnold would go that far to prove he has his own &#8220;vision&#8221; of a unique style of Football.  He may prove to be a decent coach one day, but he hasn&#8217;t got the goods, especially at International level, yet.  </p>
<p>And why should he?  It took Guus alot of time and experiences to be Guus.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s shake hands and move on, yeah ; )</p>
<p>Graciously,<br />
The Bear</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and leave Newcastle in the hands of Con ................... OOOOOO       Nooooooo .......... as screamed in Macauthur&#039;s Park</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and leave Newcastle in the hands of Con &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. OOOOOO       Nooooooo &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. as screamed in Macauthur&#8217;s Park</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve won me over too, now all we need is the website...how about it cpaaa?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;ve won me over too, now all we need is the website&#8230;how about it cpaaa?</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good thought dasilva</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good thought dasilva</p>
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		<title>By: dasilva</title>
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		<dc:creator>dasilva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK replacement for Graham Arnold as assistant coach for Australia and the coach of olyroos for London 2012

Gary Van Egmond

This will please the people on SBS like Craig Foster because he plays possession football . It will also please people like Cockerill at FOxsports as he is Australian

Win win situation to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK replacement for Graham Arnold as assistant coach for Australia and the coach of olyroos for London 2012</p>
<p>Gary Van Egmond</p>
<p>This will please the people on SBS like Craig Foster because he plays possession football . It will also please people like Cockerill at FOxsports as he is Australian</p>
<p>Win win situation to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t it be more solutions-based and proactive to create a site &quot;Hire [insert suggested replacement for Arnold here] for Australian National team coach&quot;

Otherwise it just all comes across as rather sour hate-mongering...just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t it be more solutions-based and proactive to create a site &#8220;Hire [insert suggested replacement for Arnold here] for Australian National team coach&#8221;</p>
<p>Otherwise it just all comes across as rather sour hate-mongering&#8230;just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Cpaaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpaaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:45:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>....so until such a time comes we will continue writing,reading and replying to articles related to graham arnold. 
so slippery jim your right the site should read olyroos coach or national assistant coach, but the problem remains the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;.so until such a time comes we will continue writing,reading and replying to articles related to graham arnold.<br />
so slippery jim your right the site should read olyroos coach or national assistant coach, but the problem remains the same.</p>
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		<title>By: Cpaaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpaaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>considering that fans want arnold dropped completely from all national duty i do feel its relevant. and until we have a capable manager making calculated decisions and not hail marys, then i do feel this site will remain open until such a time comes.
i just hope it is before 2010</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>considering that fans want arnold dropped completely from all national duty i do feel its relevant. and until we have a capable manager making calculated decisions and not hail marys, then i do feel this site will remain open until such a time comes.<br />
i just hope it is before 2010</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Errr...Arnold is not the national team coach, Pim is, so seems rather unnecessary to sack him as such, cpaaa.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Errr&#8230;Arnold is not the national team coach, Pim is, so seems rather unnecessary to sack him as such, cpaaa.</p>
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		<title>By: Cpaaa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cpaaa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all that feel that arnold should not be there. 

sign the petition

WWW.SACKARNOLD.COM

the people are voting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>all that feel that arnold should not be there. </p>
<p>sign the petition</p>
<p><a href="http://WWW.SACKARNOLD.COM" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://WWW.SACKARNOLD.COM</a></p>
<p>the people are voting</p>
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		<title>By: Koala Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64810</link>
		<dc:creator>Koala Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Towser,
I think the A-league is on the right track and will continue to improve technically and tactically.. However, we have always struggled to produce strikers who can smack a ball with such ferocity .. I have seen a lot of Australian football over 45yrs or more, and I can only name a handful that could hit a ball as hard as those Nigerians did last night.. Ray Bartz (midfielder) Charlie Yankos (Central Defender) even Kossie (Striker) .. However, I&#039;m not saying I haven&#039;t seen some clever goals in Australian Football, but, for sheer ferocity on a consistent basis no; we need to focus and improve our over all strikes on target like we saw last night.. The Viduks and Kewells have it on occasions; but they had to go to Europe to find the nack.. I do believe we lack the ferocity and power in our shooting in Australia. Maybe the air is thicker down under :) but when you see the goals in European competitions they do seem to travel a lot quicker and faster thru the air on a straight line.. I don&#039;t know the answer, but do we need to strengthen up the thighs or more shooting practice for the lads; I think we better find out .. But all in all what has been happening on the local seen is not bad in my opinion..  A damn lot better then in the days of &quot;Soccer Australia&quot;..

~~~~~~~
KB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Towser,<br />
I think the A-league is on the right track and will continue to improve technically and tactically.. However, we have always struggled to produce strikers who can smack a ball with such ferocity .. I have seen a lot of Australian football over 45yrs or more, and I can only name a handful that could hit a ball as hard as those Nigerians did last night.. Ray Bartz (midfielder) Charlie Yankos (Central Defender) even Kossie (Striker) .. However, I&#8217;m not saying I haven&#8217;t seen some clever goals in Australian Football, but, for sheer ferocity on a consistent basis no; we need to focus and improve our over all strikes on target like we saw last night.. The Viduks and Kewells have it on occasions; but they had to go to Europe to find the nack.. I do believe we lack the ferocity and power in our shooting in Australia. Maybe the air is thicker down under <img src='http://www.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  but when you see the goals in European competitions they do seem to travel a lot quicker and faster thru the air on a straight line.. I don&#8217;t know the answer, but do we need to strengthen up the thighs or more shooting practice for the lads; I think we better find out .. But all in all what has been happening on the local seen is not bad in my opinion..  A damn lot better then in the days of &#8220;Soccer Australia&#8221;..</p>
<p>~~~~~~~<br />
KB</p>
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		<title>By: Vicentin</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64801</link>
		<dc:creator>Vicentin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 06:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve too much work on at the moment to do it justice, but why don&#039;t you invite ol misty over? He&#039;ll have something to say on the topic for sure.

cheers</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve too much work on at the moment to do it justice, but why don&#8217;t you invite ol misty over? He&#8217;ll have something to say on the topic for sure.</p>
<p>cheers</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64794</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tapestry is to rug as Carle is to Holman.

That&#039;s actually a lot cleverer than I first thought - sometimes I truly surprise myself - we could make a thesis out of this!

I&#039;ll await your responses before I chime in with mine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tapestry is to rug as Carle is to Holman.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s actually a lot cleverer than I first thought &#8211; sometimes I truly surprise myself &#8211; we could make a thesis out of this!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll await your responses before I chime in with mine.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64791</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>heh, heh, blaming me for the &quot;rug&quot; comment...

I guess tapestry is to rug, what Carle is to Holman, 

discuss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heh, heh, blaming me for the &#8220;rug&#8221; comment&#8230;</p>
<p>I guess tapestry is to rug, what Carle is to Holman, </p>
<p>discuss.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slippery, suffice to say i am a Visual Artist, and i am VERY familiar with the pieces and movements of which you speak.  It is apparent that you wish to find something in the Art world that supports your avid fixation that colourful players have a muted role in football.  I could spend a while and address your attempts to grapple with me, but i really could not be arsed.  Maybe tomorrow, i may feel differently, but it is getting late in the afternoon, and duties call.  

And i am not chastizing the lack of http reference, you will noticed i mentioned that it was Bonita Mersiades from the PA office of the FFA, the least you could do was let us know it was Nancy&#039;s words, not your own.  You should know that The Roar have specific editorial constraints, if you have ever indeed posted an opinion piece, here, before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slippery, suffice to say i am a Visual Artist, and i am VERY familiar with the pieces and movements of which you speak.  It is apparent that you wish to find something in the Art world that supports your avid fixation that colourful players have a muted role in football.  I could spend a while and address your attempts to grapple with me, but i really could not be arsed.  Maybe tomorrow, i may feel differently, but it is getting late in the afternoon, and duties call.  </p>
<p>And i am not chastizing the lack of http reference, you will noticed i mentioned that it was Bonita Mersiades from the PA office of the FFA, the least you could do was let us know it was Nancy&#8217;s words, not your own.  You should know that The Roar have specific editorial constraints, if you have ever indeed posted an opinion piece, here, before.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64783</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And that includes diverse players, such as Carle and Culina (the two extremes of an Attacking Centre Mid), Jim.  I think that was what Pip and Vic, were talking about.

Graciously
The Bear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And that includes diverse players, such as Carle and Culina (the two extremes of an Attacking Centre Mid), Jim.  I think that was what Pip and Vic, were talking about.</p>
<p>Graciously<br />
The Bear</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64782</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;diversity is something to be embraced, and not feared&quot;

http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64775 (90th comment down, fourth paragraph, second and third line)

Yes indeed, but doesn&#039;t that encompass just about every type of football there is, including that played recently by the Olyroos? If you exclude them from that which you claim to embrace, it seems somewhat hypocritical.

By the way, I had already posted the link and put the quote in quotation marks, what more do you want? Yet your article, which features several key quotations as an intrinsic part of your argument has no links to these...

Interestingly, early Monochromatic paintings such as that pioneered by Kasimir Malevich&#039;s &quot;Black Square&quot; were termed &#039;anti art&#039;, whereas many claim the artist formerly known as Arnold produces &quot;anti football&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;diversity is something to be embraced, and not feared&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64775" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64775</a> (90th comment down, fourth paragraph, second and third line)</p>
<p>Yes indeed, but doesn&#8217;t that encompass just about every type of football there is, including that played recently by the Olyroos? If you exclude them from that which you claim to embrace, it seems somewhat hypocritical.</p>
<p>By the way, I had already posted the link and put the quote in quotation marks, what more do you want? Yet your article, which features several key quotations as an intrinsic part of your argument has no links to these&#8230;</p>
<p>Interestingly, early Monochromatic paintings such as that pioneered by Kasimir Malevich&#8217;s &#8220;Black Square&#8221; were termed &#8216;anti art&#8217;, whereas many claim the artist formerly known as Arnold produces &#8220;anti football&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64779</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Towser, absolutely the saviour of our game is being exposed to the consistent rigors of being in the ACL.  The advantages of being with Asia are too numerous to mention. I am intrigued to see how the Jets (no i am not a Jets supporter, per se) go in Asia, next season. 

If only we can keep the likes of Cockerill entertained/distracted, before he starts lobbying for Arnold&#039;s reappointment to the FFA, through his media connections, and undo all the great &quot;rug weaving&quot; we may attain.

Slippery Jim, i am not adverse to a little metaphor here and there, but the bow you stretched is broken as can be.  There is room for all sorts of art in this world, from classics...to contemporary classics.  Just know that diversity is something to be embraced, and not feared.  All artists know this, i should know.

And you really should reference all psycho-babble in future.  It&#039;s &quot;ettiquette&quot;, lol.

Yours Graciously, 
The Bear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Towser, absolutely the saviour of our game is being exposed to the consistent rigors of being in the ACL.  The advantages of being with Asia are too numerous to mention. I am intrigued to see how the Jets (no i am not a Jets supporter, per se) go in Asia, next season. </p>
<p>If only we can keep the likes of Cockerill entertained/distracted, before he starts lobbying for Arnold&#8217;s reappointment to the FFA, through his media connections, and undo all the great &#8220;rug weaving&#8221; we may attain.</p>
<p>Slippery Jim, i am not adverse to a little metaphor here and there, but the bow you stretched is broken as can be.  There is room for all sorts of art in this world, from classics&#8230;to contemporary classics.  Just know that diversity is something to be embraced, and not feared.  All artists know this, i should know.</p>
<p>And you really should reference all psycho-babble in future.  It&#8217;s &#8220;ettiquette&#8221;, lol.</p>
<p>Yours Graciously,<br />
The Bear</p>
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		<title>By: Slippery Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64775</link>
		<dc:creator>Slippery Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 05:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Bear; sorry, as much as I would like to lay dibs on the pyscho babble re Reinhardt&#039;s work was compliments of Nancy Spector.

I blame Pippu for taking us down a more philosophical route with his rug comment...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Bear; sorry, as much as I would like to lay dibs on the pyscho babble re Reinhardt&#8217;s work was compliments of Nancy Spector.</p>
<p>I blame Pippu for taking us down a more philosophical route with his rug comment&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64771</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip, if Jim wants to take this into the &quot;Art Room&quot;, i will.  I am more than happy, and skilled, mind, to entertain his psycho-babble, there.

Graciously, 
The Bear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip, if Jim wants to take this into the &#8220;Art Room&#8221;, i will.  I am more than happy, and skilled, mind, to entertain his psycho-babble, there.</p>
<p>Graciously,<br />
The Bear</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64768</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been a long time since I&#039;ve seen a footballing thread descend into an argument on the merits or otherwise of an example of the decorative arts.

When it comes to Art - I don&#039;t know what I like - but I sure do like that of which I know little.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been a long time since I&#8217;ve seen a footballing thread descend into an argument on the merits or otherwise of an example of the decorative arts.</p>
<p>When it comes to Art &#8211; I don&#8217;t know what I like &#8211; but I sure do like that of which I know little.</p>
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		<title>By: The Bear</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64765</link>
		<dc:creator>The Bear</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:37:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Graciously, of course,
The Bear</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Graciously, of course,<br />
The Bear</p>
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		<title>By: Towser</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/08/19/ffa-serves-%e2%80%9cthe-good-china%e2%80%9d-httpwwwfanboycomimagesbride-nappingjpg/#comment-64764</link>
		<dc:creator>Towser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 04:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bear

Our coaches will learn naturally anyway by participating in the Asian Champions League &amp; being exposed to different coaches &amp; styles. Thats the beauty of Asia we have to learn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bear</p>
<p>Our coaches will learn naturally anyway by participating in the Asian Champions League &amp; being exposed to different coaches &amp; styles. Thats the beauty of Asia we have to learn.</p>
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