Surprise, suprise, the ELVs are OK in the UK
By Spiro Zavos, 10 Sep 2008 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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Shaun Edwards, the coach of Wasps and defense coach for Wales, has clearly been watching the ELVs at work in the Super 14 and the Tri-Nations Tests. Before the Guinness Premiership started last week, he wrote an article for The Guardian telling critics “to forget all those dire warnings about the ELVs.”
“There might be a bit more kicking”, he noted, “but other than that our game has remained virtually untouched.”
Edwards was a rugby league great.
I like his use of the phrase “our game.” Does he mean rugby union, or the UK game of slow-plod forwards, multiple long-arm penalties, restricted ball in play, slowing down the game and endless kicking?
Whatever, he did make the point that the UK tournaments are playing only thirteen of the 33 ELVs.
Among the variation NOT being played is the use of short-arm penalties for infringements, except off-side, not coming through the gate, and foul play (all long arm penalties in the full ELVs) at the ruck and maul.
Another point Edwards made that is very relevant is this: “The demise of the (rolling maul) seems greatly exaggerated and I don’t see it going away just because it can be pulled down … Teams will adapt and find more ways of protecting the maul.”
In the Tri-Nations, both the Springboks and the All Blacks used rolling mauls to some effect.
Against Samoa, the All Blacks used a lot of rolling mauls, something I expect them to do at Brisbane if they get the chance.
The point about allowing the maul to be pulled down is that it gives a defence against the maul, where under the ‘old’ laws there is none at present.
So how did the commentators cope with their first experience of the truncated ELVs in the opening round of the Guinness Premiership?
The UK Daily Telegraph’s Martin Johnson is a terrific colour writer, but he knows very little about sports in general and seemingly even less about rugby.
In his match report on London Irish defeating Edwards’ Wasps he made the stupid statement that “the northern hemisphere have – thus far – stopped short of turning the game into a rugby league-style tap-and-go fest.”
If the Tri-Nations was rugby league with 15 players, how is it that a league star like Timana Tahu could not cope with the intricacies of the union defensive requirements?
London Irish won, Johnston insisted, because “they brought some structure to their game along with the passion.”
This admission destroys all the dire warnings from the experts that the ELVs take the “structure out the game.” The proposition is nonsensical when you understand that scrums, lineouts, mauls and rucks still exist under the ELVs.
In fact, while there may be fewer lineouts and scrums, each of these events has a greater importance because of the advantages that flow from getting possession that can be used more effectively than under the ‘old’ laws.
Benjamin made the point in one of his excellent articles on the Guinness Premiership that teams have already learned to be clever at the lineout, with some of them using halfbacks and non-throwing hookers as lifters.
The throwing side winning the lineout, though, can then attack a short side that does not have any defenders.
This is the thing about the ELVs: they put the cleverness in skills, moves and thinking back into rugby.
Rupert Bates in his report on the Saracens-Harlequins match in the UK Telegraph observed: “We saw the tactical upshot of the ELVs within the first minute … With both backlines required to be 5m behind the scrum, there is far more space to play with and Danny Care, the Quins scrum-half, raced right from the base of the scrum, drew the skeleton cover and fed wing David Strettle for the opening try.”
Exactly.
The cleverness and skill of the players, helped by a stable scrum, was rightly rewarded.
Christopher Lyles in The Observer described London Irish’s first try as “interesting” because the Wasps used only five men to defend against the seven used by London Irish in the lineout.
Instead of putting the ball wide where the Wasps had stacked their defence, London Irish drove through the thin lineout defence to score a try.
Lyles acknowledged that the majority of the ELVs “appear fair enough.” But the ELV that rankled was allowing the defending side to pull down a maul: “absolute, complete and total madness.”
This sort of analysis raises questions about the knowledge that Lyles has of the rugby game and how much rugby in the Southern Hemisphere he actually watches.
It is a response based on a manic ideological theory rather than based on reality. He should read Shaun Edwards (and less of the Usual Suspect), and he should watch what has happened this year with the maul in the Souther Hemisphere.
Paul Ackford’s take on the same match was that Wasps were “slow to adapt to the possibilities that are created by the much-talked about ELVs” and that London Irish had a “coherence and passion throughout the side that Wasps conspicuously lacked.”
I take from this comment the admission that there is no “structure” that it is the fault of the team and its preparation, not the fault of the ELVs.
Finally, the Usual Suspect in The Sunday Times.
“Let’s play the IRB’s game by trialling the 13 ELVs and then abandon most of them,” he told his readers.
Closed-minded, moi?
The Northern Hemisphere game was “too appealing” to be forced into jeopardy by a few IRB “experts” (the Usual Suspect’s punctuation).
Rod Macqueen et al, not experts?
Then in his match report on the Harlequins-Saracens match, he accused the referee Wayne Barnes of “interrupting the action with a whistling concerto.”
Apparently, the IRB has ordered referees to be stricter at the break-down, and Barnes, who is a barrister in real life and an extremely officious referee, was only too happy to oblige.
The Usual Suspect followed this up by defending Barnes (“he is acting on orders”) and blaming the IRB for not ordering the crackdown on infringements at the ruck and maul two years ago.
The point about all this is that the full-arm penalty is so draconian in the hurly-burly of the ruck and maul, when it is often difficult to decide who infringed first, that referees over a period of time tend to restrict the flow of penalties (except when ordered not to).
Also, teams knowing this then tend to defy the referee to penalise them by continually infringing.
I hesitate, but only for a second, to mention that this is what happened in the 2007 RWC semi-final, France-New Zealand at Cardiff, when Barnes refused to penalise France in the second half even once, even though France was blatantly playing the ball on the ground to slow down the All Black attacks.
The point about the short-arm penalty ELV is that it enables the referee to penalise offending sides – but not too harshly if they make mistakes – while allowing the game to flow.
Is it too much to hope that some of these insights into the zen of the ELVs will become apparent to some of the more influential rugby writers who have the bully pulpit to affect the thinking – often for the worse, unfortunately – of the rugby public in the UK?
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Colin N said | September 10th 2008 @ 2:11am | Report comment
First of all Spiro it was a quater-final between France and New Zealand not a semi-final.
Anyway, regarding the ELV’s trialled in the Northern Hemisphere, to be honest there wasn’t much difference between the old and new laws. I am from the NH and I believe that we should have trialled the majority of them such as the short arm free-kicks etc, just to see how they went. However when watching many of the super 14 and tri-nation games, there didn’t, in general, seem to be much struture to it, and that’s what in essence rugby is- building up pressure by keeping possession, making ground (which can be done through the backs or forwards) and eventually building up enough pressure to eventually score more points than the opposition (sounds obvious but it’s true).
In all honesty Spiro, your opinion is rendered meaningless if you don’t actually watch the games yourself. You comment on the 5m scrum rule and how Harlequins took adavantage of a solid scrum and the space given from the rule. What you failed to mention, however, is that one of the Harlequins player commented after the game that is was almost too easy for them to score the try from the scrum (this was also evident in the New Zealand-South Africa game).
I agree with you about the lineout, as it makes teams think more about their set piece moves. London Irish knew they had the stronger lineout and therefore they capitialised on this, pressurising the Wasps lineout and thus scoring two relatively easy tries from this.
I just feel that the ELV’s trialled in the NH are a bit pointless. I even asked myself during a friendly match- are we actually playing under the ELV’s here because it looks like the same game we were playing before the new rules.
Benjamin said | September 10th 2008 @ 2:56am | Report comment
Spiro, your article seems almost surprised at the critical response when actually a lot of people (not Shaun Edwards) were always intrigued by a section of the ELVs. Only a small handful were only ever vehemently opposed to them in the UK. However the issue with the rolling maul is that not only is it very difficult to succeed at but it also draws defenders to the ball, thereby creating space in the midfield and on the fringes. Martin Corry has said that Leicester have given up on the maul and that it is not plausible to have a maul taken down and then launch quick and smaller units off the side. Given that the lineout now requires fewer defenders actually in the line it would make sense not to have the drag down law simply because that would offset the defenders who would otherwise be padding out the backine. Personally I don’t see how a group with very low body positioning can be stopped but I imagine that Corry knows more than me. I still do not agree with the law that penalises the side that takes the ball into the breakdown if it becomes unplayable but then the lack of a short arm in the GP may negate open gamesmanship at the ruck.
the general said | September 10th 2008 @ 5:05am | Report comment
The NH questioning of the ELVs had as much to do with their impact on the non elite rugby players – you know the ones that pay to play rugby, who account for 95+% of the people who play rugby, who play rugby with a single neutral referee and don’t have the benefit of neutral touch judges, 4th and 5th officials and tmos. Just because the ARU does not care about its members doesn’t mean the other unions are the same.
Having watched most of the tri nations, I have no problem with most of the ELVs to be trialed in the NH but I thank my betters in the NH governing bodies daily for not inflicting the free kick a go go that is being dished up. Everytime there is a tackle, everybody jumps in and the referee awards a free kick to somebody – that’s just not rugby!
Spiro Zavos said | September 10th 2008 @ 8:01am | Report comment
Colin H
Wishful thinking about the semi-final, perhaps? The article was a round-up of the opinion about the ELVs, not actually their impact as seen by me.
One of the points I’ve made about the ELVs, and it is a point made by Robbie Deans etc, is that teams can play what we may call a traditional game of scrumming, driving, kicking etc with the ELVs. BUT there is more scope for the expansive game when it is on because the short-arm penalties negate a lot of the slowing down of the ball. Pressure is taken off the referee to blow away the game, as Wayne Barnes did, with numerous penalties, or not blow penalties and allow the slowing down to take place, again as Barnes did at Cardiff.
The idea of having only 3 full-arm penalties for infringements at the ruck and maul, instead of about 30, is to take the subjectivity (bias perhaps sometimes) out of play.
This is a point that the presumably knowledgeable rugby writers in the UK haven’t been able to grasp.
As for Martin Corry and the rolling maul. I admire him as a player. But I don’t think he’s done his homework. Rolling mauls are still happening. It’s a matter of time before teams develop faster mauls. But there is at last a defence against the slow-plod maul near the tryline that referees allow to stop more than twice and are therefore, if properly formed, impossible to bring down and defuse.
It’s the aspect of bringing cleverness back into rugby, too, that is overlooked in the massive campaign against the ELVs run by the senior journalists and the RFU.
Benjamin said | September 10th 2008 @ 8:15am | Report comment
You might like to have a peruse over this Spiro. I’m firmly of the opinion that the breakdown is a mess even though the GP doesn’t have the short arm. Having watched the S14, Celtic League, T14, 3N and GP I think that the breakdown is now even harder to referee.
“Senior English referees are convinced that these last two amendments amount to a cheats’ charter. “I studied two matches in which these were in operation and it was chaos,” said one official. “The normal Premiership encounter averages around 18 free-kicks and penalties. When the Stormers played the Crusaders there were 11 penalties and 22 free-kicks; when the Bulls played the Crusaders the figures were 16 penalties and 11 free-kicks. In one eight-minute spell, four penalties and four free-kicks were awarded.”
28 Apr 2008 – Daily Telegraph
Regarding the rolling maul, how many have you seen in the 3N? I’m sure Martin Corry has done his homework because he is the club captain and would be working closely under the guidance of Cockerill and Meyer. Rolling mauls aren’t still happening.
Benjamin said | September 10th 2008 @ 8:23am | Report comment
Actually, having done some more thinking over the rolling maul I see two problems – if you stay really low then the only part of your body that is allowed to be grabbed is close to the ground therefore making the job of the defender even easier. If you stay relatively upright then it is easy for the defensive unit to grab a few chests and stagnate the maul. This is also done with fewer defenders than past rolling mauls would have necessitated. This also means that it is pointless to have break-off units because the defence is padded with forwards. Given that the lineout now requires fewer defenders the redundancy of the rolling maul is a key point missed by the LPG.
Colin N said | September 10th 2008 @ 8:40am | Report comment
Watching the GP this weekend there very few rolling mauls (whether that’s for the good or detrement of the game, well it’s your opnion). I personally feel that the ability for the maul to be taken down gives the defending team the advantage (which I thought wasn’t the objective of the ELV’s). This, I feel leads to slower ball for the attacking team and stagnates the play and which would thus lead to either more kicking or forwards taking it through the middle, which I don’t see a problem with but some SH pundits do.
LeftArmSpinner said | September 10th 2008 @ 10:39am | Report comment
The biggest mistake made in all of this, is that the NH didn’t treat the trial as a trial of most or all of the ELV’s.
Even after the first game, it is clear that they will find themselves in the sitaution where they are stuck between the ocean and the deep blue sea.
The ELVs, as they have chosen to adopt, will improve the game for players and specators. So, rescinding the current ELV’s will not be an option. However, they will have lost a year of learning to use the vast range of the ELV’s that they chose not to adopt in 2008/09.
Anyway, that was their choice. It will be egg on face for S Jones and the adminstrators when the players and spectators come out in support for even the limited ELVs adopted.
Paul Ackford, someone who I have always considered to be a very knowledgeable and observant commentator, has also been strident in his opposition to the ELV’s. I suspect tho that he is a big man, in body and mind, and hence the sort of man who can admit the error of his ways. If that happens, they had better start swimming forwards and towards the light as quickly as they can to allow them a reasonable shot at the RWC in 2011.
Too easy to score from scrums, give me a break. Yes, attackers are advantaged by defenders being back 5 metres, but to say that this fundamentally changes the fabric of rugby is ridiculous and says much about the incompetence of the defence at the start of the season. It also ignores the cumulative effect of the ELVs that see games open up later in the game as physical condition and previous pressure begins to tell.
There is one final ingredient that is missing from NH, SH and the current ELVs. More yellow cards earlier. The blight on the game is the acting that the once tough forwards now carry on with when it comes to pretending to be making honest mistakes at the breakdown. stick to the rules and everything will be okay!!!
Otherwise, players will just concede more free kicks. Thankfully, this tweaking can be done by instruction to the refs.
Wallythefly said | September 10th 2008 @ 11:05am | Report comment
They’re not using the short-arms?????
That’s one of the most important ELVs IMO
mudskipper said | September 10th 2008 @ 11:28am | Report comment
It maybe worth while to have some of the Southern Hemisphere officials who have been applying the ELVs in the Super 14 and Tri-Nations to referee a few Northern Hemisphere matches and help get the ball moving?…Just short term arrangement to work along side the NH Officials’. Or perhaps give some after match feedback to the NH Officials to assist the transition…and minimise mistakes…
Just an idea….