Sydney and Brisbane viewers still on the outer
By Bruce Walkley, 18 Sep 2008 Bruce Walkley is a Roar Pro
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The AFL’s vision, or stupidity, depending on your viewpoint, in trying to invade rugby league territory in western Sydney is copping a caning from the cavalier way in which its television “partners” are being allowed to treat core followers of Australian football in the NSW capital, as well as Brisbane.
Take last Saturday night, for example. Collingwood, with arguably the biggest following outside Victoria of any Melbourne-based team, played St Kilda for the right to be only one game away from the grand final.
Early in the week the AFL’s website listed live coverage of the game by Channel Ten, starting at 7pm, but by Wednesday newspaper TV guides told viewers they would be getting a 6.30pm movie called Matilda, in which “a young girl with the world’s worst parents is taken under the wing of the world’s nicest teacher”, with the AFL coverage delayed by 90 minutes, starting at 8.30pm.
Presumably this change of plan resulted from what The Age described, in a report quoting AFL chief operations officer Gillon McLachlan, as “recent requests from broadcasters in Sydney and Brisbane to relax the contractual obligation for Friday and Saturday night matches to be aired in prime time”.
Interestingly, Ten and its affiliates did show the Collingwood-St Kilda game live on both the Gold Coast and the Sunshine Coast, although Brisbane city viewers had to put up with the same treatment as their Sydney counterparts.
Canberra, the Far South Coast, Dubbo, Orange, Wollongong, Tamworth, Taree, Newcastle and Wagga Wagga all got the game live, and so did Queensland centres Cairns, Toowoomba, Mackay, Rockhampton and Townsville.
On Friday night Sydney got the other semi-final between the Swans and the Western Bulldogs live on Channel Seven, for obvious reasons, and so did the rest of NSW, through Seven’s Prime affiliates.
Gold Coast viewers also got live coverage, but there was a 60-minute delay in Brisbane, Townsville, Mackay, Rockhampton, Toowoomba and Cairns, as well as on the Sunshine Coast.
This week the Friday night preliminary final between Geelong and the Western Bulldogs, which starts at 7.40pm, will be on 60-minute delay on Seven and its affiliates throughout all the above-mentioned areas of NSW and Queensland, including the capital cities and, worst of all, the Gold Coast, which the AFL is supposed to be courting assiduously.
Fox Sports viewers will be “treated” to an 11.30pm replay.
Even worse for Sydney and Brisbane viewers, the Saturday night match between Hawthorn and St Kilda, which begins at 7pm, will be on a two-hour delay in both capitals on Ten, with the pre-game coverage starting at 8.30pm.
It will be live everywhere else in Queensland and nearly everywhere else in NSW.
Since Seven and Ten won’t show the games live, can capital city viewers at least watch them on pay-TV’s Main Event Channel 518? “No, again we have been advised that our channel isn’t required for the finals this weekend,” was Main Event’s response to an email query.
The Fox Sports replay kicks off at 11.45pm.
So, while we wait for the Government and/or the AFL to bring in use-it-or-lose it rules, it’s back to steam radio. Thank goodness for good old ABC NewsRadio at 630 on the AM band in Sydney and ABC936 in Brisbane, which will broadcast both games live.
The NRL must be rubbing its hands in glee at the AFL’s acquiescence in this shabby treatment of the northern capital cities’ viewers by its TV “partners”, who of course will justify their actions by pointing to ratings. I wonder what Matilda rated last week? How will Stuart Little go in Ten’s 6.30pm slot this week?
And what will potential GC17 members on the Gold Coast think about forking out their cash after being put on an hour’s delay?
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, in some of the most interesting speculation about 2009, we have coach Paul Roos confirming that Sydney are eyeing Daniel Kerr and Alan Didak to boost their midfield and forward stocks.
The real question facing the Swans, though, is how many of their 30-plus brigade to cut, as well as big-hearted but blundering local Lewis Roberts-Thomson, who surely must go after his deficiencies were so cruelly exposed against the Bulldogs last week.
I can’t see too many high draft picks being handed over for that lot, unless they trade Barry Hall to Adelaide.
The mail from Melbourne is that Didak will stay at Collingwood, despite everything, so Kerr (if he doesn’t come to terms with West Coast or go to Carlton) and two or three well-credentialled but underrated players in the Ted Richards mould could be the Swans’ main targets.
This week’s picks: Cats by 25, Saints by 3. Last week 1 from 2, total so far 117/182.
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September 18th 2008 @ 2:30pm
The Link said | September 18th 2008 @ 2:30pm | Report comment
“So basicially the Sydney Swans have the equivalent interest of two major NRL Sydney clubs who made the finals.”
Nope, just attendence, they’re two different things.
September 18th 2008 @ 2:39pm
Redb said | September 18th 2008 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
The Link,
The comment was no interest. Is that right?
Redb
September 18th 2008 @ 2:49pm
Michael C said | September 18th 2008 @ 2:49pm | Report comment
The Link -
how else do you establish ‘interest’ and further to that, the qualitative measure of ‘level of interest’.
I’d suggest primary indicators are :
A. purchase of membership (very, very club specific)
B. attendance
C. purchase of merchandise DIRECT from club
then falling away to tuning in on tele – - – which is a superficial and indistinct direction of interest in many cases – - – but indirectly benefits via broadcast rights.
I don’t think you can separate attendance from ‘interest’,
And you surely can’t suggest that attendance and interest are two different things……………….how many disinterested folk attend regularly?
September 18th 2008 @ 2:56pm
Redb said | September 18th 2008 @ 2:56pm | Report comment
The link,
I’m happy to say that 2 Sydney NRL teams would get much higher TV ratings than a single Swans game, to clarify, the equivalent support was more as a percentage of support. An NRL game might get 400,000 viewers, Swans 100,000 – so 25%. (Swans worth 2 clubs out of 8 NRL clubs).
But hardly no interest.
Redb
September 18th 2008 @ 3:07pm
Towser said | September 18th 2008 @ 3:07pm | Report comment
http://www.footy-boots.com/england-v-croatia-on-free-to-air-tv-4910/
Interesting topic.
You may say that what happens in England or elsewhere in the world has no bearing on Australia.
In terms of the diverse sporting market you may be correct,but in the treatment of viewers by TV stations no country will be exempt from “who puts up the most money” antics & possible shoddy treatment of fans.
Think yourself lucky that you can see free to air AFL at all because in England where the National football team is iconic the last crucial World Cup qualifier against Croatia away match was claimed by Setanta over the ITV & BBC.
The home match last November on the BBC was watched by 11 million viewers.
The away match the other day was watched by 1.55 million viewers on Setanta.
Lot of fans missing out there.
It could happen here with Pay TV. The FA in England couldn’t resist the larger cash bag from Setanta,why would any organisation be any different. Money talks & for sporting bodies nowadays the viewing audience walks.
Just one of many articles on the subject above
September 18th 2008 @ 3:15pm
Redb said | September 18th 2008 @ 3:15pm | Report comment
Towser,
One could be churlish and suggest in light of the laissez faire approach of English futbol and its fan acceptance of same, they deserve it.
Redb
September 18th 2008 @ 3:25pm
Towser said | September 18th 2008 @ 3:25pm | Report comment
Redb
I doubt whether many English fans would agree with you on that knowing my own family members.
Deserve such treatment that is.
The point being that Setanta could offer the AFL more than any free to air channel when the next TV deal comes up,if they saw mileage in it.
Then its your choice whether to pay up or miss out wherever you live in Australia.
September 18th 2008 @ 3:28pm
The Link said | September 18th 2008 @ 3:28pm | Report comment
Guys, you don’t just establish interest from attendence figures, that’s my point. Fair enough its an indicator, but not the only one. Of course its above zero in Syd / Bris.
For example you could look at Rugby in NZ and say there’s not much interest due to poor attendence at some S14 games.
The AFL has developed a good attendence culture in Syd/Bris, granted. Whereas the NRL has a more TV viewing culture in Sydney in particular. Looking at either in isolation does not prove ‘interest’.
For the record the Storm are doing well compared to other NRL sides and this is how they are judged. If you told me pre Super League that a Melbourne side would average >10k consistently I would’ve thought you’re from Mars.
September 18th 2008 @ 3:41pm
Redb said | September 18th 2008 @ 3:41pm | Report comment
Towser,
The AFL is currently listed on the Federal Government’s anti-siphoning list and as free to air channels currently in Australia do bother to show games (not always to everyones satisfaction timing wise) then that will not change for some time.
I do agree pay TV is looming as a threat to free to air coverage generally, however the AFL would be mad to effectively sell out its fans in a such a way. The AFL is many things but it understands Melbourne, Adelaide and Perth have about 30% pay TV penetration at the moment, thus they would be giving away 70% of their audience, aint going to happen.
In saying that, TV is still not as vital to fans in supporting their teams as attending the game itself. The AFL is less reliant on TV revenue than other codes, it uses extra TV money to grow the game, so it’s still important but the be all and end all.
Redb
September 18th 2008 @ 3:47pm
Peter said | September 18th 2008 @ 3:47pm | Report comment
Redb
(Swans worth 2 clubs out of 8 NRL clubs).
That has to be the most nonsensical crock of S^#! That has come form your retarded keyboard.
So by your definition every NRL supporter of the 8 Sydney clubs are watching the average game of 400,000?
Maybe just the fans of the TWO teams competing plus a few causals or actually watching the game Reb.
Did that ever cross your mind?
Swannies worth 2 NRL clubs in terms of TV ratings????????????
Have the men in the white coats taken you away in the van yet, it’s only a matter of time.