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September 30th 2008 @ 1:15am
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Was it a Grand Final or a Granstanding Final?

Clinton Young from Hawthorn holds aloft the Premiership Cup during the 2008 Toyota AFL Grand Final between the Geelong Cats and the Hawthorn Hawks at the MCG. GSP images

With Channel 7 now in control, there is sadly no Robert Walls to enjoy. The sight of an aging Ian Moss tells you what to expect from the pre-game entertainment: loosely defined ‘rockers’ past their prime. Are you hyped yet? Me neither.

For some reason, retired umpires are getting paraded.

Do they parade retiring stewards at the Melbourne Cup? Did the pit crew drive Ayrton Senna’s hearse around at Albert Park?

No, they didn’t.

Shaun McManus retired apparently. The AFL average for loose ball seagulling immediately drops by 23%.

Did you know some grassroots fans didn’t get to go to the game today? Call Today Tonight.

There is only 20 million Australians, and the ground has a capacity of 100,000, so everyone who wants to go should be able to, right?

It’s also unbelievable that some stakeholders involved in sponsoring and supporting the multi-million dollar business that is AFL got tickets ahead of normal fans.

Powderfinger perform one song. One!

They have numerous songs of varying degrees of quality. Some are even good, but for this occasion they chose to perform the radio-friendly unit shifter ‘Baby, I got you on my mind’.

Here are some of the lyrics, as written by Bernard Fanning’s child at kindergarten one day;

Baby I’ve got you on my mind, honey you won’t ever know
How much I need you by my side, promise you won’t ever go
I won’t take no from you this time
Baby I’ve got you on my mind

Complex.

By the way, the drummer is wearing a kilt and a woman’s blouse. Fanning is wearing a leather jacket and it is 28°c. There are bending poles around the stage with lunatics on top of them wearing club guernseys and they are interpretative dancing. This is like a Dali painting gone wrong.

Fanning and company break into AC/DC’s ‘Long way to the top’ midway through their only song, playing at 38% of the normal tempo. This is dreadful.

Around 47 bagpipe players have descended on the MCG.

Fanning appears to have eaten Bon Scott and his remaining family and his attempt at a beard is not hiding it. Rock and Roll is a good wicket it seems.

Ian Moss, who is actually still alive, plays the Hawthorn and Geelong themes on guitar.

Maybe his agent suggested this would be his Hendrix-Star Spangled Banner-Woodstock moment? It would be fair to say he sold out.

Tucker’s daughter is indeed a memory.

Cut to the crowd. Having a cat face with full whiskers painted on you is OK if you are under 16 years of age. If you are male and mid-30s, there are better ways to support your side.

Official ‘Cup Ambassador’ Glenn Archer escorts the Premiership Cup into the MCG. He is referred to, as per contract, as the ’shinboner of the century’.

Bob Davis and some bloke who apparently is a maybloom legend, receive the cup. Davis advises the Hawks bloke he is the only Hawthorn person who will touch it today.

Dermott Brereton isn’t on stage because his salon appointment ran overtime.

Nathan ‘Career Decisions’ Buckley is talking about Grand Finals with Bruce McAvaney and Dennis Commetti. In itself this is mirthful. However, it must be said that Dennis’ hair requires a building permit.

Qantas’ new airplane flies over the MCG for promotional benefit. It’s not 1965 so it is difficult to be impressed by a passenger jet.

Ric Olarenshaw is down in the rooms with Alastair Clarkson and is found guilty of white collar crime. PQ actually enjoys his shirt choice in a Gordon Gecko way, but the tie should not be blue. And the hair needed to be slicked back.

Clarkson suggests that now that the players are out on the ground, the coach is obsolete. Not sure how he will fill in the next three hours but I hear Wall-E is pretty good.

Some commentator on ‘Wojo’, as he is now affectionately called: “He has handled himself well.”

What? Did you expect him to go Tonya Harding on Paul Chapman?

Jeff Kennett apparently shares Commetti’s hairdresser.

From what I can see only Cyril Rioli and Brent Guerra wear black shoes. Are people in black shoes now showboats?

Geelong appear to be much more serious with Chapman, Taylor, Ottens, Corey, Blake, Bartel and Milburn in traditional garb.

As Tom Harley groups his team together in the bowels of the MCG, McAvaney comments that Harley “does take charge.” Given he is the captain, this is certainly surprising.

McAvaney descends briefly into madness when he suggests there is a strong wind blowing and it is called Geelong.

It’s team photo time.

Cameron Ling is like a handsome version of Martin Bryant.

Two witches from the musical ‘Wicked’ sing the national anthem. The memo to not sing in character wasn’t received. Just a brutal rendition.

Mrs PQ comments that Tom Harley is ripped. This now explains why she took him in Round 5 of our GF Fantasy Football draft this morning. Hope those arms are worth plenty of points!

PQ manages to pick up Ablett, Selwood, Hodge, Young, Brown and Kelly in this five person, six player competition. With that lineup, I am as confident as Buddy Franklin walking into Transport.

Thankfully the game starts.

Hodge lifts his arms up and lets Geelong strongman Matthew Stokes go to town on his ribs. PQ is impressed with this work.

Bateman goals and Commetti suggests he runs like a snake in water. Let me know once you work that one out.

Playing with 1983 rules, Bateman then gives up a 50m penalty, resulting in a Geelong goal. A sign in the crowd says “Harley your (sic) the man.”

Secondary education is optional in Geelong.

Sam Mitchell goes off for the blood rule. It’s the first time we’ve seen him. That “most possessions” prop bet is looking very shaky.

Quarter time and just a point in it. A good game in the offing.

The second quarter is a bit of a scrapfest, but with 13:40 to go in the quarter, all of a sudden it’s on like Donkey Kong for about 30 seconds with some huge bumps and a missed elbow that would have had Dermott Brereton lubing up if it had connected.

Is Chance Bateman the kid out of Mad Max II? The timeline sort of fits.

We go to half-time with Geelong down by a couple of points.

A definite North Melbourne v Adelaide ‘98 vibe is going on here.

Harley is concussed pretty badly. He suggests to the trainer he likes the new stand they built here at Kardinia Park. No need to show the cause of the jelly legs, however, Channel 7. I understand you are out of practice with this Grand Final thing.

Concerned, Mrs PQ arranges flowers and a get well card to be sent to Harley’s locker.

Sign in crowd: “All you need is love rough.” Important, oft-forgotten rule about a play on words - generally it should rhyme with the original phrase.

Additionally if you need to faux rub out the word you are changing so people understand the connection, it likely is a bit of a stretch. You only get a pass on this one if you are the Grosby dog.

The third quarter starts and Norm Smith smokey Selwood is on the bench. Cat Thompson has forgotten this game IS for the sheep station.

First reference to the interminable ‘Premiership Quarter’. I quickly reach for a bucket.

Campbell Brown (177cm) is on Cam Mooney (195cm). Troubling, however, maybe necessary with Croad off. Mooney marks, but sprays it.

Geelong have kicked 11 consecutive behinds.

Buddy Franklin is here! Security at Crown advised him the game was on and he hustled down to the ‘G. Nice of you to show up.

Harry Taylor’s rookie sheen comes off abruptly in a classic deer in the headlights moment. For some reason Taylor was the only Cat who went the zinc for his face today.

Surely Cameron Ling needed some as he was peeling before half-time.

Dew goals. As Selma would say, “Is it just me or did it just get fatter in here?”

His direct opponent throws Dew’s sports bra into the crowd to put him off his game.

Pan to Cat Thompson. No sandwiches in the coaches box this time is there? Another reference to ‘Premiership Quarter’. OK, someone is going to get hurt now.

Milburn, who just arrived with Franklin, goals and this is followed up by the worst down-field call in history.

Ablett is clotheslined in the middle, as has been Hawthorn strategy all day, with Ling receiving the handball. The umpire actually says ‘down-field’ as Ling then takes a further 43 steps before pumping the ball inside 50.

Geelong receive a shot from where Ling’s kick lands. This might be a turning point.

If you support Hawthorn it is likely your TV now requires replacement. It’s now three-quarter time and it couldn’t come soon enough for Hawthorn up by only three goals now.

Mooney heads back to the goal square for the last quarter carrying a broomstick putter. Harley is back on for Lazarus-style inspiration.

Joel Selwood does some more impressive work, and Tim Watson suggests he “doesn’t know the word give up.” Neither do I, however I know two words - ‘give’ and ‘up’ - which conveniently combine to make such a phrase.

The game is now in Hawthorn’s keeping.

Pan to Trent Croad on the bench on crutches. Croad’s swollen foot can be seen from the moon so it is amazing he can smile about it.

Wow, the Mark Blake story got old real quick. Four possessions will do that. Stephen King just called - he wants his selection controversy back. Matthew Stokes is now favourite to take out the Leon Davis 2002 tribute medal.

It’s over - 18.7 to 11.23. 11 rushed behinds in that total.

Despite the fact it was really just 11.12, Geelong did miss some shots of moderate difficulty and did have 62 I50s to 43. A substantial variance, but that’s why they play the games.

The bench and coaching staff storms the field and Croad is currently doing a stellar impersonation of ‘Jimmy!’ from South Park.

Thanks to David Wirrpanda and his ‘controversial’ non-handshake of some anonymous child in 2006, we have some PC madness. Hawthorn employed someone to give hats to the Hawthorn players as they approach the dias for their medals.

The players then shake the hand of the child and pass this hat to them. Just wonderful PR work allround. The problem was Mark Williams didn’t get the memo and kept the hat. Classy stuff from one of football’s classiest.

Luke Hodge gets the Norm Smith, no doubt helped by the three ribs and some vertebrae jutting out of his jumper. Horrendous decision.

A good performance but Joel Selwood and Gary Ablett were clearly better.

Sam Mitchell contacts the police to advise what Cameron Ling did to him today was not consensual, then hops on stage and states it was an “unbelieveable finals series.” I’m not sure how an average margin of victory for the nine games of 39 points with no games closer than 26 points can qualify as unbelievable.

Nonetheless today’s game was an impressive contest and demonstrated that these two teams are well above the other fourteen sides.

Next season’s decider looks for all money like a rematch and that is a good thing given the quality of this game.

Geelong were certainly unlucky and I would put my powered caravan site on them to take it all in 2009.

Gary Ablett is clearly the best player in the AFL and I suspect he is about to go Bruce Lee on the league based on both his endeavours during and his reaction post game.

Take what you can get for him for the 2009 Brownlow as the man is as close to a footballing machine as you can get.

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Pippinu said  | September 30th 2008 @ 9:21am | Report comment

Quirky, a touch long - but I liked it!

Pat said  | September 30th 2008 @ 10:49am | Report comment

PQ

If you dont like the spectacle, invest in a thing called a remote control and turn the channel. I wasn’t impressed by the pre-game entertainment either but, then again, I never am. I would rather scrap the entire thing and just get on with the game, after all, that’s the real spectacle.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I get the impression that you are a Geelong supporter. Hence the negativity towards every aspect of the game. What was blatantly obvious was that the new “powerhouse” of the competition was out-coached and out-played by a side that was focused on the prize and not on the party afterwards.
Do me a favour, get off the Ablett train. There are 21 other blokes in the side. We get it - he didn’t win the Brownlow or the Norm Smith. Get over it. Unless you subscribe to the same philosophy that Carlton do - sook loud enough and they will eventually give in. If you recall 1993 when Williams lost the Brownlow to Wanganeen. The club, supporters and Media sooked so hard for 12 months that they had to give it to him the next year or face riots I’d expect. He won it in ‘94 even though, in an incident against Essendon at Waverley, he threw the footy at the Boundary Umpire and hit him in the leg. Should have gone for that but didn’t even go up. So keep up your whingeing and Ablett should get it next year.
As far as Mitchell is concerned it is obvious he was beaten on the day, but I ask you, where was Bartel? You all bang on about Ablett who I agree is a freak of a player, but Hawthorn found a weakness and exposd it, namely the lack of a defensive side to his game. Whilst Hawthorn tagged him, they also had the courage to run off him when they won the ball, and alot of forward movement occurred through his direct opponent. Maybe that’s why he is not Brownlow material just yet.
Finally, to coin a phrase from, ahhh, I think it was a St.Kilda president back in the ’60’s, “Winners are grinners and losers can please themselves.
P.S. For the record, I am not a Hawthorn supporter but a proud Essendon man. And by the way, Mark Thompson’s nickname is “Bomber” so please don’t degrade him by replacing it with “Cat”. He learned his trade from the best at a club that knew how to win flags. There may be a reason why Geelong are known as Cats. Just look at their record in the ’80’s.

Matt said  | September 30th 2008 @ 1:26pm | Report comment

Way to go Pat. Sense of humour - you should be able to pick one up in the pre-Xmas sales.

By the way, PQ’s a West Coast supporter. Way to label an orange a friggin canteloupe. Ablett would have been a shoe-in for Norm Smith had the Cats got up. No real Hawthorn player stood up - there was no clear candidate. But there was a clear candidate from the other side. Still, an Ablett winning the Norm Smith in a losing Grand Final, can’t have that.

I agree Ablett is not “brownlow material”. He lacks that defensive side only the Woewodins and Harveys of this world possess. I believe he lost this year because the refs couldn’t distringuish between him, Harley and Chapman. Put it in the too hard basket and just give a vote to Corey instead. That’s why Rangs have such a good recent brownlow history in relation to their % populace of AFL stocks. Could also explain why Goodes always polls well (ooh … controversial).

PQ said  | September 30th 2008 @ 1:53pm | Report comment

Simply observations Pat whilst I wait for West Coast’s return to power which may take some time it would appear. I think I must have mistreated one of your sacred cows in the review so apologies for that - it wasn’t written for Geelong or Hawthorn supporters, but more from the perspective of a neutral observer on the day. It’s all in jest - I know Bomber Thompson’s name - the possibly too subtle point is after coaching Geelong for so many years, when does he lose the stupid moniker?

CM said  | September 30th 2008 @ 2:35pm | Report comment

Pat,

I am not sure why you feel the need to pick a part an ‘opinion’ piece provided by an amateur sports reporter. The article was obviously written in a light hearted manner and should be taken as such.

I too am an Essendon supporter and it is people like you that give Essendon supporters a bad name. No wonder people think we are arrogant - the fact that you are still defending ‘bomber’s’ name and sprouting off about them being a club that knows how to win flags suggests you may not be aware of how ordinary Essendon are currently. Perhaps you are taking your own advice of changing the channel if you don’t like the spectacle, but it doesn’t excuse misplaced arrogance.

Pat said  | September 30th 2008 @ 3:07pm | Report comment

Don’t get me wrong PQ, I realise the jest in which it was meant and appreciate the humour (or lack of) its just that if I hear how hard done by Ablett is again I am likely to explode. Some of the greatest players in the competition never won a Brownlow or a Norm Smith - look at Tim watson, Leigh Matthews. And some very undeserving players have won them - Woewodin, Goodes, Buckley (Collingwood supporters now cringe) just to name a few. And I apologise if I mistook you for a whingeing Geelong supporter, but that is definitely the way you came across.
Mark Thompson is a legend of the Essendon Footbll Club, premiership captain etc, etc and the way he went about his football totally embodies what EFC is all about - hence the nickname “Bomber”. Just because he coaches Geelong doesn’t mean he has lost those attributes.
By the way you have not mistreated any of my sacred cows at all as I too was simply an independant observer enjoying the game for what it was worth. I think that Hodgey was a good choice for Norm Smith as, especially in the 1st quarter where GF’s are won and lost, he repelled everything from defense and was an integral part of causing Geelong to 2nd guess themselves as they entered inside 50. The large number of behinds, save for the 11 rushed, is no coincidence. It is testament to the Hawks’ defensive pressure, something that was lacking at the other end. The Geelong defenders, Scarlett, Harley & co. didnt have a great influence on the game whilst the Hawk defenders did.
As for you Matt, I take offense to you placing Woewodin and Harvey in the same sentence. That is like comparing Michael jordan to Shane Heal - worlds apart. harvey was a star, even if defensive pressure was not his strong suit. He was creative and could win the ball all over the ground. He could read the play better than most so was always in a poition to win the next contest while his opponent was getting sucked into the play. I think you may have mistaken Harvey with Buckley. Now there is a receiver if ever there was one. he would rack up 40 disposals and about 20 of them were from running past and receiving a cheap handball from a mark or free kick. When Bronlows and Norm Smiths are given to blokes like that it totally devalus the award.
Without sounding biased, even though I am, there was none better than the great man James Hird.

Matt said  | September 30th 2008 @ 5:27pm | Report comment

We’ll save the Harvey debate for another time. Suffice to say, you are completely wrong and I am completely correct. My friend also agrees with me, you might know him. Malcolm Blight. Knows a thing about entering a club, delisting the hangers on and winning premierships. But that’s all in the history books now. When Mark Bickley is leading premiership midfields over Harvey, I tend to doubt the footballing prowess of the man.

I’d have one Buckley in my team over 5 Harveys any day of the week. I hate Collingwood as much as the next person, but there’s a reason why they group Hird, Voss and Buckley together and Harvey gets forgotten. Add Kouta, Ricciuto, Cousins and Black and all of a sudden Harvey’s not even a top 7 player of the noughties. I could go and add further players but I don’t want to raise a debate, it’s pretty much a given that the 7 mentioned were all far superior to Harvey.

Pat said  | September 30th 2008 @ 5:36pm | Report comment

CM - in case you misunderstand the concept, an opinion piece is as the name suggests - an opinion. Must I agree with every opinion published? Surely not. And do I not have the right to criticise an opinion that I do not agree with? Please tell me I can or I will relocate to China or North Korea where freedom of speech may come under less scrutiny. Any person willing to publicly air an opinion must be prepared to accept the broad spectrum of criticism both positive and negative that comes their way. If not, don’t air them - keep them to yourself. PQ understands this and hence his response. Unfortunately you see it that all I am doing is trying to pick ribbons out of an article. Its a shame you dont see the forest from the trees.
As far as people thinking you are arrogant maybe comes from the fact that perhaps YOU are. I am passionate about my footy club and the legends that have spilled blood for it over the years. If this is classified as arrogance then I am guilty as charged. As far as people like me giving the club a bad name I feel you are speaking a little out of school here. I support my club every step of the way - in good times and bad and whilst we cling on to the good for as long as we can, I always front up to support them again and again in the hope that they will return to their former glory. If this is giving the club a bad name then what is the world coming to. Maybe this hypersensitivity that is flooding the world is preventing people from saying what they really think. One thing I have never done is make excuses like many people do when it comes to their team’s poor performances. I say it as it is regardless of popular opinion or an overwhelming need to be politically correct. Stuff that, have the courage to call a spade a spade for christ sake.

Pat said  | September 30th 2008 @ 5:48pm | Report comment

Matt - I agree 100% with what you said, although I question Kouta & Buckley in that list of 7. The point I was making was that there is absolutely no comparison between Woewodin and Harvey. I made the point that mentioneing these 2 names in the same sentence is an insult to the man as Woewodin wouldnt even make it in to the top 500 let alone top 7. We were questioning the credibility of the Brownlow voting, I was by no means placing Harvey ahead of any of those players that you mentioned.

PQ said  | September 30th 2008 @ 5:56pm | Report comment

Pat,
Defensive aren’t we? What I find interesting is that you are now defending your criticism of an opinion by criticising an opinion. Noone has ever suggested that I am arrogant, but I have heard many people speak of Essendon supporters in that regard.

Matt said  | September 30th 2008 @ 6:16pm | Report comment

Fair point Pat. I guess comparing Woewodin to Harvey is a bit of a stretch, however I believe I can be granted a bit of leniency as the carry on the past few weeks, you’d expect that Jesus H Christ himself had retired from the game, only to resurrect himself in the pre-season draft. Good player, I’ll give that. St Kilda legend, no doubt. AFL legend worthy of his own dedication at the Brownlow? Not likely. Andrew McLeod is 10 times the player Harvey was, and made it count when it mattered most (twice). He’ll be retiring within the next couple of years. I expect the Brownlow to be renamed the McLeod. I don’t care if he never won it (though he should have - Brownlow nights greatest farce was in 2001).

Pat said  | September 30th 2008 @ 6:19pm | Report comment

Defensive - who me? Surely not. What have I to be defensive about? I am not criticising CM’s opinion but merely filling him in on the direction of my original opinion. He asked the question “..why you feel the need to pick apart an ‘opinion’ piece…”. This assumes that i am criticising for the sake of it and not for the reasons mentioned. I don’t feel the need to pick apart anything but I do feel the need to express what i think about another’s opinion.
I too have heard of Essendon supporters referred to as arrogant, and as much as I lke to think that I am not one of those, i am sure I have my moments, but tell me, which passionate supporters are not. But to say that it is supporters like me that give the club a bad name goes beyond criticism and leans towards personal attack. Like I said before, I am passionate and if this makes me bad supporter then i am afraid there are not many good supporters left.

Pat said  | September 30th 2008 @ 6:29pm | Report comment

Now Matt finally something we can agree on. I would rewrite that big 3 in a flash to Hird, Voss & McCleod. I coach junior footy and have 2 budding footballers of my own and I tell all the kids constantly that the one thing that seperates a good player from a champion is the ability to perform when it counts. McCleod has done that time and time again, so too Hird and Voss. Cousins yes, Black to an extent and Kouta, well if we look at the ‘99 preliminary then we have to say yes to him as well. Harvey? Nothing really comes to mind and Buckley, well, he won a Norm smith in a losing GF so I guess, as much as it pains me, he could just squeeze in.
I bet the likes of Hird, Voss & Buckley are spewing they didn’t get the same send off that Harv’s did. Maybe you have to win 2 Brownlows to deserve your own segment at Brownlow night. Does that mean we will go through all of this again when Goodes retires? Surely not.

Crawforn said  | October 1st 2008 @ 1:07pm | Report comment

Nice write-up, but dropping LSD before a Grand Final’s a bit much I think, mate.

I think you fast-forwarded through it too much yesterday. Ian Moss did NOT play the national anthem & team songs - he was miming; or he had a Digital Delay effect set at 3 weeks!!!

Stuart Dew has been playing great footy all year, but the 7 & te(e)n Networks, and people like you, seem to be mesmerised by LANCE Franklin. Even Clarkson said: there’s 22 other boys playing on the ground…, but let the commentators and, more importantly, the opposing team, focus on ‘Buddy’, while Williams, Bateman, Rioli, Roughead, even Dew, kick goals in the meantime. The umpires GAVE Geelong 3 goals, for soft free-kicks, and they STILL lost.
Gary Ablett is NOT “clearly the best player in the AFL”, he retired YEARS ago! And his son CLEARLY is not - Adam Cooney CLEARLY is, were you on drugs THEN too? All the ‘ribs’ stuff aside, apart from a soft ‘holding the ball’, every touch Luke Hodge had was effective, and ended up 4 votes ahead of Gablett, Jr.
And didn’t you love Ablett, Jr.’s tears of joy for Luke Hodge - what great sportsmanship.
If you watch your tape again closely (unless you’ve taped over it with Oprah already), Mark Williams gets a NEW hat to the kid.
Stuart Dew won a previous AFL Premiership with Port Po(o) wer, but also with Central Districts in the SANFL, as did Brent Guerra (multiple). The SANFL refused pressure to rename as AFL-SA, and we know the AFL & TV don’t recognise this league, but they ARE professionals, as the league is. And their games are hard fought & won, probably more so than the AFL. And they keep pumping out quality players the AFL stalks & hunts all year long. John Platten, Stephen Kernahan, Craig Bradley……… all from the SANFL. You research all the others yourself PQ, in between “Desperate Housewives” re-runs.
The SANFL Grand Final is on this Sunday, and will showcase some great footy - which is what it’s all about.

Millster said  | October 1st 2008 @ 7:00pm | Report comment

PQ - best AFL piece I’ve ever read. Laughed my absolute arse off. Fantastic work.

Pat - get a life.

Pat said  | October 2nd 2008 @ 5:48pm | Report comment

Millster - Got one and quite enjoying every minute of it, especially when managing to annoy the likes of you. I’m glad you enjoyed it as too did I even though I may not have agreed wih all that was written. To say that you laughed your arse off to that article just goes to show who actually needs to get a life. Cheers and have a nice day.

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