Melbourne Victory has a discipline problem
By Slippery Jim, 21 Oct 2008 Slippery Jim is a Roar Rookie
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When most A-League fans think of discipline problems, they may cite John Kosmina’s touchline antics and bitter post match remarks about officials fom seasons past. Yet this season, the coach most troubled by discipline problems is the polar opposite of the outspoken Kozzie — it’s Ernie Merrick, the quiet, poker faced Scot who is coach of Melbourne Victory.
Disgracefully, in the last five matches, from rounds four to eight of the A-League, Melbourne Victory players have committed five offences that have resulted in a flurry of red cards and suspensions.
It all started in round four of the A-League on September 12th, in which Fabiano spat at an opposing player, Cornthwaite, and was given a straight red card in the 29th minute.
Although Melbourne appealed on the grounds of what they called “obvious error (red card),” the sending off was found to be the correct decision and Fabiano handed a multiple match ban.
Next to err was the Victory keeper, Theoklitos, who was found guilty of deliberate “violent conduct (stamping)” in a goal-mouth incident on September 20th.
Melbourne Victory this time decided not to appeal the sending off.
On September 28th the red card count mounted further when Victory playmaker Hernandez was handed a yellow card for a foul on Matthew McKay and then a second yellow for diving in an attacking move, resulting in a sending off.
The latest red card was on October 18th, this weekend gone, in which Archie Thompson was given his marching orders for apparently calling the referee a “F*****g C***t.”
Although Thompson has apologised to his captain and his coach, given the FFA’s stance on dissent this season, it is possible he will be given a two-match ban and hopes of a call up for Thompson for the World Cup Qualifier against Bahrain could also be jeopardized.
Ernie Merrick has stated that, “the four red cards [this season] have hurt us. There’s no excuse and it put a lot of pressure on our team. It’s always frustrating. We have got the lowest yellow card count, but four red cards is not good enough and we will pay the price for that.”
While it seems indisputable to any neutral that four red cards in five games constitutes a serious disciplinary problem at Melbourne, Merrick still seems to refuse to acknowledge there is any problem, let alone try to identify the cause of it.
Instead he say, “now and then everyone stuffs up, but I think all of them (except Theoklitos) were fairly harsh (red cards). We’ve addressed it, but it’s not like any of the players are repeat offenders or we’re repeatedly breaking the rules.”
If Ernie’s head in the sand approach is to be taken at literally, then it seems that spitting in the face of other players, diving, and abuse of referees are all par for the course in Merrick’s book.
This kind of attitude coming from the coach shows that the disciplinary problems at the club may come, not just from the players committing these acts, but from Merrick and his blasé approach to serious foul play, the kind of dirty tactics and violent disgraceful actions that all of us would like to see weeded out of the game for good.
Something needs to be done by the club to address the problem. And soon.
Melbourne hard man Kevin Muscat declared after the Victory’s last match, “We’ve got a massive game to look forward to next week now … and you’ll see a different Melbourne Victory.”
For the sake of the A-League, we hope so Kevin.
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October 21st 2008 @ 1:27am
dasilva said | October 21st 2008 @ 1:27am | Report comment
My gosh. I can visualised Pippinu fuming while reading this.
October 21st 2008 @ 7:41am
Mick of Newie said | October 21st 2008 @ 7:41am | Report comment
You might want to throw SFC in with them 3 in 8 games (Musiliak, Prentice and Fyfe) and an equally unrepentant coach.
Fire up Pip I think you have a theory or two.
October 21st 2008 @ 7:42am
Kazama said | October 21st 2008 @ 7:42am | Report comment
I have to agree with you, Slippery Jim. Based on all the sending offs and suspensions, Melbourne do have a big problem when it comes to discipline, and I think over the next two weeks it will cost them with two losses against their nearest rivals.
“Melbourne hard man Kevin Muscat declared after the Victory’s last match, ‘We’ve got a massive game to look forward to next week now … and you’ll see a different Melbourne Victory.’”
Time to sub him out of your fantasy teams – he’ll be sent off this week for sure!
October 21st 2008 @ 7:50am
Midfielder said | October 21st 2008 @ 7:50am | Report comment
SJ ….. Pip will no send you a Chrismas card after this ….
BTW MV are looking for a new name …these have been suggested …….. the Rams, Slugo’s, Mean Machine, The Direty Dozen (include coach in number), The Football Fighters (re the band the Foo Fighters), Talking Heads (Ariche), ……. but my choice is “Bash em & Thrash em”.
Anyone got any good names ……….
October 21st 2008 @ 8:12am
Michael C said | October 21st 2008 @ 8:12am | Report comment
Gosh, the A-League will suffer more from a Melb Victory with perhaps a ‘hard edge’ as compared to the theatrics of Mr. Trinidad on the weekend…………….give me discipline problems every day!!!!!
Midfielder -
MVFC – - Melbourne Vice-squad
or, if you take Pippinu’s claims, then it’s Melbourne Victims.
October 21st 2008 @ 8:37am
Kazama said | October 21st 2008 @ 8:37am | Report comment
Underbelly FC
Fight Club
Merrick’s (or Muscat’s) Maulers
Or if they want to keep the ‘Big V’
Melbourne Violence
V For Vendetta
October 21st 2008 @ 8:50am
Pippinu said | October 21st 2008 @ 8:50am | Report comment
Heh, heh – SJ, you’re as sly as an ol’ rattle snake, yer’ar!
It’s interesting that both Kossie and Farina are now being looked at by the FFA for making negative comments agaisnt officials – and yet Ernie, who has the most to complain about, hasn’t said boo – perhaps people should be focusing on Kossie and Frankie baby rather than Ernie?
Of course, if Ernie had had time to gather his thoughts, he may have said this about the events of the last five rounds:
Four red cards in five games is one of the most natural occurences you are ever going to stumble across.
Carlos deserved to be red carded after Tiatto hacked away at him for the previous 55 minutes.
Tiatto definitely earned his free for intentionally elbowing Vargas to the neck, and the FFA was 100% correct in exonerating him, and sending him off with a pat on the back.
It’s appropriate that we never heard boo about that on any media outlet apart from one brief mention on Fox FC. The FFA is definitely the most accountable and transparent sporting organisation we have ever come across.
In light of all this, it was definitely appropriate that the FFA tried to increase Fabiano’s penalty from 6 to 9 weeks, despite the fact that by all accounts, the ref’s evidence was as flimsy as all hell.
Breeze and Williams have not displayed any incosistency in their rulings all season, and it is entirely appropriate that they have been quick to go for the red card in all MV games (against MV specifically).
The charges of aspiration; toe stubbing; getting hacked by Tiatto; and cussing have all been rightly proven, and amount to the most heinous crimes the A-League has ever had the displeasure of experiencing in its illustrious history. It is by a miracle that we have not yet witnessed a broken bone! (to MV’s offending playmakers that is)
Michael C
I agree that the Trinidad episode has brought the game into disrepute to a far greater extent than anything MV has been red-carded for this season. If anything will put Australians off soccer, it is definitely Trinidad’s antics.
Congratulations to the FFA and refs for curbing MV’s great start to the season – something had to be done – we were at risk of witnessing season 2 all over again – and how would that have allowed the introduction of a 2nd Melbourne team?!
Now everyone on the table is tightly packed, and we can pretend we’ve got a close exciting season ahead of us.
October 21st 2008 @ 12:45pm
dasilva said | October 21st 2008 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
Unfortunately because diving/simulation is only considered a yellow card offence. The FFA has no power under FIFA law to intervene post match and punish Trinidad. The most disreputable and damaging event of the year will probably get away scott free (consistent with last season with joel Griffiths)
It’s about time that FIFA took diving seriously
October 21st 2008 @ 5:20pm
Midfielder said | October 21st 2008 @ 5:20pm | Report comment
MC & Kazama
Great names my picks from your suggestions all good by BTW is “Underbelly FC” ……. just love it
October 21st 2008 @ 5:58pm
Slippery Jim said | October 21st 2008 @ 5:58pm | Report comment
A couple of things worth mentioning – I stated in the article: “Melbourne Victory players have committed five offences that have resulted in a flurry of red cards and suspensions.” There were of course, only four red cards (so far) but they resulted from what were technically five seperate offences.
Mick of Newie, in my original article I did mention that Sydney had their own (lesser) problems, with three reds (although two were from accumulated yellow cards) and perth with one (also two yellows). The Roar editors in their wisdom chose to edit this out.
Pippu, I know of course about Kozzie and Farina’s ill-chosen words, however my point is that for Merrick to make excuses for his player’s actions (after saying there were no excuses) and say the club is not repeatedly breaking the rules (despite four red cards in five games) is like winking at the serious foul, violent and cheating behaviour by Melbourne Victory players and will only encourage it from his players. Genuine congrats by the way on your good news re 442 (hope I’m not jumping the gun), all the best, it’s just a shame they want all that work (pleasurable as it is) for free – and Ronaldo thinks HE is a slave lol! Lucky you didn’t tear up your MV membership like said you would too heh heh!