Football worth $34m to Gold Coast

Forgetmenot said  | November 6th 2008 @ 12:53pm | Report comment

By 2016, that is a fairly decent amount. Only about 8 years later and they have that figure. And with hardly any investment into the team at all.

We all know that football gets the bigger crowds meaning that the GC will receive more people than the other codes.
I cannot wait until the team comes in, will add another dimension.

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Westy said  | November 7th 2008 @ 12:23pm | Report comment

The Gold Coast team will be successful. But can I have a look at the economic report. I just love reading their assumptions. This is part of a well practiced marketing strategy from the best marketed sport in Australia. I say this in admiration not criticism.. It is designed not to persuade the AFL Commission to grant the 17th licence but to to persuade the QLD government to get the AFL out of the Gabba deal or have the QLD Govermnment contribute to the upgrade necessary on the Gold Coast. this is not wrong and is what other sports also do. It is just that the AFL do it so well.
My point is let me read the report .it will bring a smile to my face…….independent economic report…..ABC Learning had one of those to….it helped to persuade the Federal Government to remove capping on child care grants.. .Tha AFL will contribute to the Gold Coast economy ………the 34 million may take a while

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Michael C said  | November 7th 2008 @ 1:37pm | Report comment

after seeing some of the before predictions and after actuals for ‘economic benefit’ for some FIFA WC host nations……………I don’t see any reason to doubt that AFL GC17 $34m figure.

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Pippinu said  | November 7th 2008 @ 2:24pm | Report comment

Millster
the adjective “crowded” comes to mind

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Pippinu said  | November 7th 2008 @ 2:33pm | Report comment

Millster
good point (stiff competition too) - but with the inevitable extending of seasons, one can expect a bit of overlap.

There will be many that are happy to pay for two memberships (as I do), there will be quite a few out-of-towners (the A-League would attract as many as the AFL I reckon) - but the Gold Coast must now be the smallest place in Australia where all three national football comps are in the one city.

It’s an interesting experiment.

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Koala Bear said  | November 7th 2008 @ 3:42pm | Report comment

“an independent economic report today shed some light on how it would impact the region.”

Where there has been an independent economic report with no creditably economical reporter’s named attached; is a sign of no independent economic report was ever done … Gold Coast taxpayers face a $60m bill to receive $34m back with only 11 weeks of Grooky played on the Gold Coast out of 52 weeks of the year … Yes indeed I smell a rat…

At least the FFA + Rudd government did their ER with the well respected firm “Price Waterhouse Accountants” for the 2018 FIFA world cup in Australia to effectively project a $5b+ into the Australian economy …

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Koala Bear said  | November 19th 2008 @ 8:04pm | Report comment

Meg,
you are absolutely correct..

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Michael C said  | November 19th 2008 @ 8:51pm | Report comment

oh my god - - - KB - - - you wanna make a song and dance about AFL talk infiltrating soccer blogs - - - what are you doing ’supporting’ (even in jest - as I know you are) this meg and his/her childish rant.

meg - -
search history and you’ll discover that some of the original London FA rules of 1863 can now only be found in the game that started 4 years earlier in Melbourne. i.e. the fair catch, and a goal without a x-bar. Fancy that, the ‘real’ football started rules were written 4 years later than Melbourne.

The Irish had no idea what they were doing yet - and of the original players and lawmakers of the Australian game there was stuff all link to Ireland. You see, the more well to do cricketers of the MCC were far less likely to be Irish than that they were folk schooled at Cambridge, Rugby school, etc. Were there to be a reasonable Irish influence…..we’d see the odd jumper with orange or green colours - - we don’t. The Irish were largely incidental………however, there’s reasonable grounds to suggest that the rules for Gaelic football written about 20 years on from the Melb rules were infact influenced by the Melb rules (or, at least, a desire to ‘distinguish’ the Gaelic rules from the Melb rules)

And if soccer is the true football……how come they use their hands too (throw ins and the 2 goalies), why do they use their heads…..in fact….it’s not so much ‘football’ as ‘handlessball’……..because…….the clincher is you don’t even need to KICK a goal……………only one code of football has the stipulation.

So - smoke on that you person of dubious intellect and potentially questionable parentage. And go smoke it on a dedicated soccer blog…..because, it’s one thing to troll…..it’s another thing to at least attempt to ‘add’ to a discussion.

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Pippinu said  | November 20th 2008 @ 8:27am | Report comment

KB
have you got stats on how often the ball is “kicked” in soccer compared to how often it is “kicked” in Australian Football?

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Michael C said  | November 20th 2008 @ 9:02am | Report comment

KB -

there’s a far, far, far (I feel like doing a Talking Heads song now) higher ratio of goals scored in soccer other than by foot as compared to Australian football - - where in you CAN only score a goal by kicking it yourself.

At the end of the day, if soccer folk try to discount the number of headers, and the goalie using his hands, and side line throw ins and effectively that the game doesn’t dictate the ‘ball must be kicked’, rather, the game dictates in general play that the hands must not be used (deliberately).

Where as, in AFL, the rules do stipulate the requirement to kick the ball to A. take a mark, and B. score a goal.

(do the rules of Association actually specify that a penalty shoot MUST be a kick, or, do you have the option of attempting a header? no doubt it’d look silly, but, in reality, headers do look pretty silly - - in the realms of sillyness shared by cricket umpires leg byes signals, and the AFL goal umpire whacking he/her self on the chest.)

At any rate - - if you want a relative proportion of kicking vs other part of the body in general play………you miss the point that the game is all about it’s ‘GOAL’, i.e. the purpose of the game is to score goals to win. Everything else is the loopholes that coaches seek to exploit in achieving the goal of winning the game (or at least not losing). Rugby League is defined by it’s ‘primary score’ - it’s goal - which is to dive bodily over an end line………it is no longer a game about kicking goals other than as a consolation effectively. Perhaps meg is so myopic that she hasn’t yet discerned between the Rugby and Grid Iron games and Australian Football.

SO - - - on goal difference, Aust Footy wins, easily, by a mile!!!!

case closed.

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Redb said  | November 20th 2008 @ 9:31am | Report comment

I really like the way the Gold Coast club is forming, hopefully the AFL will give it the nod. A team built up of mostly native Queenslanders is a fantastic boon for the game locally and testament to how far Aussie Rules has developed on the Coast and southern QLD.

The game does not have to be the biggest to survive it can live with number 2 or 3, the fundamentals seem strong. Nothing is a no brainer in these times and Australia has been immune from the carnage to date but that will not last 3 months, the AFL is wise to ensure some of the financial boxes are ticked. I prefer prudence over hubris any day of the week.

Redb

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Michael C said  | November 20th 2008 @ 9:51am | Report comment

Redb -

and the way the native QLD squad is being built is still the main allure for the AFL to push ahead with West Sydney - - for even a half native NSW squad to built up in public.

That’s why WS18 is still ahead of Tassie18,………but, Tassie19 will probably be welcome for when NM-1 occurs. Alas. Go the Tassie Roos.

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Koala Bear said  | November 20th 2008 @ 10:39am | Report comment

MC,
quality of possession and quality of goals. What is quality?? The difficulty of the task not the free shot on goal as in AFL.. Not to worry you just refuse to understand the differences as usual .. Put it this way a goal in Football has to go thru the posts avoid the defender pass the keeper (may deflect due to the defenders ability to defend) to kept it under the cross bar is quality; opposed to a free shot on goal with as high as you like between the sticks not as hard in my view; that’s why you put thru more goals than Football …

But alas, you still do not grasp my point to the real quality that I refer to, and that is in the midfield to what I refer to as ball possession; to work with your team mates, with strings of precise passing; with one touch football under pressure in confined spaces. To receive it back and to pass to another; to hold and to protect with your feet; to feint to deceive the opponent with the outside of the foot; the inside of the foot; to nut meg an opponent; to flick it with the foot; to bend it like Beckham; it happens more with football with the use of the foot than in any other code…. I think that is what Ms Meg, God bless her, was trying to tell you… Now did I mention C Ronaldo with his dribbling the ball with his feet. ?

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Michael C said  | November 20th 2008 @ 12:10pm | Report comment

KB -

in most conditions, if an AFL player is running into an unguarded goal from whatever distance……..take a look at how they kick it…..invariably, the kick is low and hard………such that WOULD be touched/marked by a player standing in the way.

Why do they do this - - well, kicking low and hard is a far far more accurate kick than kicking with greater elevation. Elevation is used for distance. WIth that, you lose accuracy - - apart from anything else, the impact of wind and the greater relative exposure to hook and slice the further out the kick is taken from.

KB - - have you ever played golf at all? You seem to show no appreciation for the difficulties involved in golf of getting you long and short games to work on the same day. In AFL - - like golf - you need to get your long and short games working on the same day.

And KB - your midfield possession - - there’s a couple of key ingrediants usually missing,

A. rarely is your soccer midfielder risking being run down from behind, because, usually he has unmarked ’strength of numbers’ behind him, whilst the opposition has flooded their back half. The simple fact that most soccer matches see teams line up with a natural flood - - i.e. 4-4-2 vs 4-4-2 means that each backline is 2 players up on their opposition.
So, dribble all you want in mid field - - just doing silly little training drill style party tricks and racking up TV time……….(I’m a born defender - so, in most codes - I have but disdain for flashy forwards and midfielders more concerned with hogging the ball and looking pretty rather than working hard).

btw -
if you want to see the value of 1 touch footy in confined spaces, we need to get you to Telstra Dome one day - and we’ll show you the results that one touch footy gets and the punishment that teams failing to achieve 1 touch footy face. Soccer doesn’t punish failure nearly as consistantly,

AFL is more zero tolerance (how’s the irony) - when you stuff up, invariably it becomes what is known as a 2 goal turn around. The goal you shoulda scored and the one the opposition got. Full length of the field plays like that don’t happen often in soccer…………more’s the shame.

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Koala Bear said  | November 20th 2008 @ 12:33pm | Report comment

MC,
if you need to see one touch football at its best watch the UCL on SBS, not at the TD with Muscat trying it on … But I will grant you Muscat is good at running a player down from behind and breaking the odd leg or two ..

Golf: a tip for you lad, if you are on the tee of a par 5 use the no. 1 wood .. If you are near close to the green use a No. 9 iron or a wedge, I hope that solves some of your golf dilemmas.. And in football I could achieve the same results with my right peg no hands involved.. unfortunately my left peg, left a lot to be desired… But isn’t that what we are talking about.. ? Foot opposed to hands to foot — to ball with out the help of hands as to in % terms….

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Koala Bear said  | November 20th 2008 @ 1:01pm | Report comment

emoticontamination keeps distracting me

MC,
hmmm Yes I have another meeting to attend this afternoon and if you feel distracted.. try and stand up in front of emoticon anonymous and say… Yes I am an emoticon-aholic … boy that’s tough…

Back after…

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Michael C said  | November 20th 2008 @ 1:07pm | Report comment

KB -

you realise it’s only because I’m emoticoncerned for you.

At times I’ve felt a real emoticonnection with you,

and I feel your pain as you wrestle to keep your problem emoticontained.

It’s hard I know, wot with all the do gooder emoticonservationists these days who look on with emoticontempt at your ‘little problem’.

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