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	<title>Comments on: Selectors should stick with Watson and Symonds</title>
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		<title>By: Derryn</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/11/26/selectors-should-stick-with-watson-and-symonds/comment-page-1/#comment-93595</link>
		<dc:creator>Derryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 03:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Get rid of Ponting as captain and put Katich as Captain
Get rid of Watson and White
Hayden has had long enough
Hilfenhaus should get start
I wouldnt worry about playing a spinner when our batsmen can bowl better then the specialist spinners anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Get rid of Ponting as captain and put Katich as Captain<br />
Get rid of Watson and White<br />
Hayden has had long enough<br />
Hilfenhaus should get start<br />
I wouldnt worry about playing a spinner when our batsmen can bowl better then the specialist spinners anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Drewster</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/11/26/selectors-should-stick-with-watson-and-symonds/comment-page-1/#comment-93409</link>
		<dc:creator>Drewster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 08:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As much as i have enjoyed watching Hayden over the years, The time seems to be here for that tap on the shoulder from the selectors. You have to feel for Watson, I hope he returns soon and with an attitude of this could be my last test so i am going out all guns blazing as he is great to watch with bat and ball when he is firing. 
Lets hope the selectors get it right before the end of the New Zealand Test series because South Africa is going to be a different prospect and make no mistake they owe us big time on the cricket field.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As much as i have enjoyed watching Hayden over the years, The time seems to be here for that tap on the shoulder from the selectors. You have to feel for Watson, I hope he returns soon and with an attitude of this could be my last test so i am going out all guns blazing as he is great to watch with bat and ball when he is firing.<br />
Lets hope the selectors get it right before the end of the New Zealand Test series because South Africa is going to be a different prospect and make no mistake they owe us big time on the cricket field.</p>
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		<title>By: JMM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JMM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Ben, it seems to me as if there is an in-crowd and and out-crowd for the Australian cricket team - players like Symonds and Hayden are in the side despite their recent poor batting performances, and players like Watson and Hodge miss out despite good performances. I agree, too, that the mantra of earning your place in the team means that we have all old timers going around - time for the selectors to take a risk and bring in a few players under age 30!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Ben, it seems to me as if there is an in-crowd and and out-crowd for the Australian cricket team &#8211; players like Symonds and Hayden are in the side despite their recent poor batting performances, and players like Watson and Hodge miss out despite good performances. I agree, too, that the mantra of earning your place in the team means that we have all old timers going around &#8211; time for the selectors to take a risk and bring in a few players under age 30!</p>
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		<title>By: JohnB</title>
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		<dc:creator>JohnB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 01:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems to me that picking a &quot;balanced&quot; cricket team is not particularly hard (in principle at least), as there are some fundamental requirements that are pretty much immutable.   You need your 5 best batsmen, best wicket keeper and 4 best bowlers.  Of course, in practice it is made more complicated because what is meant by &quot;best&quot; is not always clear or constant - it will depend on the conditions, the opposition and in at least some cases the abilities of the players in disciplines other than their main speciality (thus you can prefer a reasonable keeper and very good batsman over a good keeper/fair batsman, fielding skills may divide players of otherwise similar ability, superior batting of one contender may tip the scales between similar bowlers etc).  Nevertheless, that basic framework - 5 batsmen, 1 wk, 4 bowlers - remains constant in my view.

You are then left with one position to play with, and who you pick there depends again on the conditions and the opposition, but also on who else you have picked.  Do you want more batting or more bowling?  Do you want more spin or more pace?  Can the ability of this last player allow you to adjust who you pick as the 4 bowlers (or as the wicket keeper)? 

If you want to pick both Watson and Symonds, it seems to me that you have to be saying that one of them is either in the best 5 batsmen or best 4 bowlers.  I just do not see that you can say that.  While I think you can make a case for picking either one of them (Symonds - on last season&#039;s form a good test batsman at 6, with fielding and handy bowling a bonus; Watson - good enough to contribute as 4th seamer in a 4 seam 1 spin attack, or as 3rd seamer in a 3 seam, 2 spin attack, and has clear ability as a batsman, even if he is yet to make much of it), picking both while still picking 4 specialist bowlers leaves you dangerously short of batting.  And, on the flip side, if as in Brisbane you pick them and only 3 bowlers, your bowling is at risk of ending up being light on. 

I&#039;m also always puzzled when people want to fiddle with a strength in a sporting team in order to try to address a weakness (as in shifting Hussey from 4 to open).  I wouldn&#039;t say you should never do it, because sometimes you have no alternatives and sometimes people are ready to take on bigger responsibilities.  However, it seems to me that if someone has been making a pile of runs against all comers in one of the key batting positions, you should be very reluctant to move him from there.  It&#039;s not like Rogers (or even Marsh) isn&#039;t well worth a go when Hayden goes or is pushed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me that picking a &#8220;balanced&#8221; cricket team is not particularly hard (in principle at least), as there are some fundamental requirements that are pretty much immutable.   You need your 5 best batsmen, best wicket keeper and 4 best bowlers.  Of course, in practice it is made more complicated because what is meant by &#8220;best&#8221; is not always clear or constant &#8211; it will depend on the conditions, the opposition and in at least some cases the abilities of the players in disciplines other than their main speciality (thus you can prefer a reasonable keeper and very good batsman over a good keeper/fair batsman, fielding skills may divide players of otherwise similar ability, superior batting of one contender may tip the scales between similar bowlers etc).  Nevertheless, that basic framework &#8211; 5 batsmen, 1 wk, 4 bowlers &#8211; remains constant in my view.</p>
<p>You are then left with one position to play with, and who you pick there depends again on the conditions and the opposition, but also on who else you have picked.  Do you want more batting or more bowling?  Do you want more spin or more pace?  Can the ability of this last player allow you to adjust who you pick as the 4 bowlers (or as the wicket keeper)? </p>
<p>If you want to pick both Watson and Symonds, it seems to me that you have to be saying that one of them is either in the best 5 batsmen or best 4 bowlers.  I just do not see that you can say that.  While I think you can make a case for picking either one of them (Symonds &#8211; on last season&#8217;s form a good test batsman at 6, with fielding and handy bowling a bonus; Watson &#8211; good enough to contribute as 4th seamer in a 4 seam 1 spin attack, or as 3rd seamer in a 3 seam, 2 spin attack, and has clear ability as a batsman, even if he is yet to make much of it), picking both while still picking 4 specialist bowlers leaves you dangerously short of batting.  And, on the flip side, if as in Brisbane you pick them and only 3 bowlers, your bowling is at risk of ending up being light on. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m also always puzzled when people want to fiddle with a strength in a sporting team in order to try to address a weakness (as in shifting Hussey from 4 to open).  I wouldn&#8217;t say you should never do it, because sometimes you have no alternatives and sometimes people are ready to take on bigger responsibilities.  However, it seems to me that if someone has been making a pile of runs against all comers in one of the key batting positions, you should be very reluctant to move him from there.  It&#8217;s not like Rogers (or even Marsh) isn&#8217;t well worth a go when Hayden goes or is pushed.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 20:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben, Symonds has confirmed that he has a drinking problem.  Why was he in a pub?

For the sake of the man, help him.  After all, we are only playing the rag tag New Zealand team that dont even approach Shield standard.

Put the man first and the game second!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, Symonds has confirmed that he has a drinking problem.  Why was he in a pub?</p>
<p>For the sake of the man, help him.  After all, we are only playing the rag tag New Zealand team that dont even approach Shield standard.</p>
<p>Put the man first and the game second!!!</p>
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