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		<title>By: adam</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-5/#comment-192047</link>
		<dc:creator>adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 10:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there was a world cup in 93 ? In 1993, for instance, England lost the opening match of the RWC tournament to New Zealand but went through to the Final where they gave Australia a tough game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there was a world cup in 93 ? In 1993, for instance, England lost the opening match of the RWC tournament to New Zealand but went through to the Final where they gave Australia a tough game.</p>
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		<title>By: captain nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-5/#comment-183069</link>
		<dc:creator>captain nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 23:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>current rankings

1(1) SOUTH AFRICA 90.98 
2(2) NEW ZEALAND 89.42 
3(3) AUSTRALIA 86.06 
4(4) IRELAND 83.27 
5(5) FRANCE 81.48 
6(6) ARGENTINA 81.29 
7(7) ENGLAND 81.23 
8(8) WALES 80.74 
9(9) FIJI 76.52 
10(10) SCOTLAND 75.23</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>current rankings</p>
<p>1(1) SOUTH AFRICA 90.98<br />
2(2) NEW ZEALAND 89.42<br />
3(3) AUSTRALIA 86.06<br />
4(4) IRELAND 83.27<br />
5(5) FRANCE 81.48<br />
6(6) ARGENTINA 81.29<br />
7(7) ENGLAND 81.23<br />
8(8) WALES 80.74<br />
9(9) FIJI 76.52<br />
10(10) SCOTLAND 75.23</p>
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		<title>By: bob heron</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-145606</link>
		<dc:creator>bob heron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 15:30:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ranking before RWC 2007:

1	NEW ZEALAND 94.59
2	FRANCE	 85.87
3	AUSTRALIA 85.50
4	SOUTH AFRICA 84.69
5	IRELAND 	84.67
6	ARGENTINA	79.07
7 	ENGLAND	78.61
8	WALES	76.87
9	SCOTLAND	76.73
10	SAMOA	73.72

and as you can see they were no use whatsoever in predicting the result. Clearly it was a slow news day and you just had to post something Spiros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ranking before RWC 2007:</p>
<p>1	NEW ZEALAND 94.59<br />
2	FRANCE	 85.87<br />
3	AUSTRALIA 85.50<br />
4	SOUTH AFRICA 84.69<br />
5	IRELAND 	84.67<br />
6	ARGENTINA	79.07<br />
7 	ENGLAND	78.61<br />
8	WALES	76.87<br />
9	SCOTLAND	76.73<br />
10	SAMOA	73.72</p>
<p>and as you can see they were no use whatsoever in predicting the result. Clearly it was a slow news day and you just had to post something Spiros.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-95806</link>
		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 17:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The subs for Ulster were:

19. Kieron Dawson	67&#039;
17. Tom Court	        52&#039;
21. Niall O&#039;Connor	72&#039;
18. Matt McCullough	69&#039;
20. Isaac Boss	52&#039;
22. Mark McCrea 69&#039;	

Maybe you are referring to Tom Court who replaced Fitzpatrick at No 1.  He plays for Ulster as a tighthead and loosehead prop. Court was born in Brisbane, Australia and began his sporting career as a shotputte]. He was Australian University Champion for three years running and had Olympic trials in 2002. He started playing rugby in 2004 and has represented Manawatu and Queensland Reds as well as Ulster.  
He represented Ireland A in 2006 Churchill Cup before he had played his first game for Ulster. He qualifies to play international rugby for Ireland through his grandfather, who was born in County Limerick. He was also played as sub in the 2008 Churchill Cup squad. He made his full Ireland debut in an uncapped match against The Barbarians at Kingsholm Stadium in Gloucester.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The subs for Ulster were:</p>
<p>19. Kieron Dawson	67&#8242;<br />
17. Tom Court	        52&#8242;<br />
21. Niall O&#8217;Connor	72&#8242;<br />
18. Matt McCullough	69&#8242;<br />
20. Isaac Boss	52&#8242;<br />
22. Mark McCrea 69&#8242;	</p>
<p>Maybe you are referring to Tom Court who replaced Fitzpatrick at No 1.  He plays for Ulster as a tighthead and loosehead prop. Court was born in Brisbane, Australia and began his sporting career as a shotputte]. He was Australian University Champion for three years running and had Olympic trials in 2002. He started playing rugby in 2004 and has represented Manawatu and Queensland Reds as well as Ulster.<br />
He represented Ireland A in 2006 Churchill Cup before he had played his first game for Ulster. He qualifies to play international rugby for Ireland through his grandfather, who was born in County Limerick. He was also played as sub in the 2008 Churchill Cup squad. He made his full Ireland debut in an uncapped match against The Barbarians at Kingsholm Stadium in Gloucester.</p>
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		<title>By: jools-usa</title>
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		<dc:creator>jools-usa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Stillmissit, Sheek, bloggers, et al.
Saw some of the Ulster vs Scarlets yesterday &amp; Ulster brought on a large OZ prop, but I forget his name.
He&#039;s about 20 &amp; commentator said Wallabies should look at him.
Any clue who he is &amp; why he&#039;s in Europe?
Thanks
Jools-USA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Stillmissit, Sheek, bloggers, et al.<br />
Saw some of the Ulster vs Scarlets yesterday &amp; Ulster brought on a large OZ prop, but I forget his name.<br />
He&#8217;s about 20 &amp; commentator said Wallabies should look at him.<br />
Any clue who he is &amp; why he&#8217;s in Europe?<br />
Thanks<br />
Jools-USA</p>
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		<title>By: Homer</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-95413</link>
		<dc:creator>Homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:47:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there any footage of TPN&#039;s tackle on Collins that anyone know&#039;s about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there any footage of TPN&#8217;s tackle on Collins that anyone know&#8217;s about?</p>
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		<title>By: Who Needs Melon</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-95411</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Needs Melon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 22:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got to watch the first 8 minutes and then my recorder crapped out. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got to watch the first 8 minutes and then my recorder crapped out. There was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.</p>
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		<title>By: pothale</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-95380</link>
		<dc:creator>pothale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:42:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting article.  however, if you look at the outcomes of the last few world cups, there have been very few surprises at the pool stages.  The Ireland V Argentina battle has been one battle, but very few others.  Knockout stages have had more surprises.  Based on this draw, I would see most going according to the draw in who will go forward.   NZ and France from Group 1; SA and Wales from Group 2; Ireland and Australia from Group 3; and England/Argentina from Group 4.

Who gets first and second is more open to debate.  I&#039;d reckon NZ will want to get off to a cracking start and if France is their first match, they should win it.   Unless SA go downhill before 2011, they should win out over Wales.  Ireland and Australia is more difficult to call - their last WC matches have been settled by a point.  Ireland could beat them.  For England and Argentina the result may get decided by their results against Scotland, rather than each other.

Anyway, it&#039;s three years off.  Lots to play for, and seedings to be changed.  And they will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting article.  however, if you look at the outcomes of the last few world cups, there have been very few surprises at the pool stages.  The Ireland V Argentina battle has been one battle, but very few others.  Knockout stages have had more surprises.  Based on this draw, I would see most going according to the draw in who will go forward.   NZ and France from Group 1; SA and Wales from Group 2; Ireland and Australia from Group 3; and England/Argentina from Group 4.</p>
<p>Who gets first and second is more open to debate.  I&#8217;d reckon NZ will want to get off to a cracking start and if France is their first match, they should win it.   Unless SA go downhill before 2011, they should win out over Wales.  Ireland and Australia is more difficult to call &#8211; their last WC matches have been settled by a point.  Ireland could beat them.  For England and Argentina the result may get decided by their results against Scotland, rather than each other.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s three years off.  Lots to play for, and seedings to be changed.  And they will.</p>
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		<title>By: mcxd</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-95339</link>
		<dc:creator>mcxd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>strangely i never thought id say this but Sheehan had a cracker of a game then early in the second half burgess came on did three or more absolutely useless kicks that went no where but up and down and on one lost ground ? what on earth was he thinking ? i know i was thinking of putting Sheehan straight back on. He really played with agression and some smart rugby. 

In fact the whole Asutralian team played with aggression the whole game. Where was this during the year ? It was absolutely fantastic. Lote was in there belting people (legally) and doing all the right things..McCaw got belted by Chisholm..who would have thought ? In fact if you had to compare McCaw with Smith, Smith without a doubt got the better of McCaw on the night.

AAC played brilliantly at inside -c attack and in defence, shame he wasnt given that opportunity early in the year. No aimless kicks from him last night.

It was a shame about the uncontested scrums. 

Probably my fav Wallaby game of the year and considering it was full of young guys as the englsih commentators said it really holds well for Aus rugby future. ..but before i get ahead of myself, one game doesnt make a season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>strangely i never thought id say this but Sheehan had a cracker of a game then early in the second half burgess came on did three or more absolutely useless kicks that went no where but up and down and on one lost ground ? what on earth was he thinking ? i know i was thinking of putting Sheehan straight back on. He really played with agression and some smart rugby. </p>
<p>In fact the whole Asutralian team played with aggression the whole game. Where was this during the year ? It was absolutely fantastic. Lote was in there belting people (legally) and doing all the right things..McCaw got belted by Chisholm..who would have thought ? In fact if you had to compare McCaw with Smith, Smith without a doubt got the better of McCaw on the night.</p>
<p>AAC played brilliantly at inside -c attack and in defence, shame he wasnt given that opportunity early in the year. No aimless kicks from him last night.</p>
<p>It was a shame about the uncontested scrums. </p>
<p>Probably my fav Wallaby game of the year and considering it was full of young guys as the englsih commentators said it really holds well for Aus rugby future. ..but before i get ahead of myself, one game doesnt make a season.</p>
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		<title>By: bennalong</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-95337</link>
		<dc:creator>bennalong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 13:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t like being a spoiler but apart from the need to celebrate the breadth of Rugby around the world, I think the World Cup has created a political problem for coaches that has impacted negatively on the game. I admit I cack myself looking at the AB record, but I think looking at the AB record shows what a festival occasion it is. Not the real deal and to be treated lightly. Failure certainly shouldn&#039;t ruin careers. Give me a return to three test series anytime. More drama and tension per game and a better measure of two teams than any WC one off.

The game this morning was a cracker and showed the sort of game from the Wallabies you&#039;d have seen against Wales with a less suppressive referee performance. Sure the kicking was excessive and frequently erratic but the commitment was relentless and total from the entire team. FULL-ON

Did we miss Gits? I don&#039;t think so. This sort of game plan allowed Quade Cooper to replace him effectively. It also made me appreciate Cooper&#039;s ability and add him to Beale and Barnes as better candidates for 10.

Adam A-C showed what a fantastic talent he is when not asked to kick all the time, and Drew Mitchell took up where he left off against Wales with some beautiful, beautiful lines and steps, ball in hand. YYYYAAAYYY!!!

Lote too showed he&#039;s still got passion. Maybe Robbie can convince him to watch Drew and run not &#039;at&#039; but &#039;by&#039; opposing players without taking his foot off the gas. He doesn&#039;t realise how big he is!

George was great. Is he bionic?     ............................Roll on 2009. ...........MERRY CHRISTMAS Mr. DEANS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t like being a spoiler but apart from the need to celebrate the breadth of Rugby around the world, I think the World Cup has created a political problem for coaches that has impacted negatively on the game. I admit I cack myself looking at the AB record, but I think looking at the AB record shows what a festival occasion it is. Not the real deal and to be treated lightly. Failure certainly shouldn&#8217;t ruin careers. Give me a return to three test series anytime. More drama and tension per game and a better measure of two teams than any WC one off.</p>
<p>The game this morning was a cracker and showed the sort of game from the Wallabies you&#8217;d have seen against Wales with a less suppressive referee performance. Sure the kicking was excessive and frequently erratic but the commitment was relentless and total from the entire team. FULL-ON</p>
<p>Did we miss Gits? I don&#8217;t think so. This sort of game plan allowed Quade Cooper to replace him effectively. It also made me appreciate Cooper&#8217;s ability and add him to Beale and Barnes as better candidates for 10.</p>
<p>Adam A-C showed what a fantastic talent he is when not asked to kick all the time, and Drew Mitchell took up where he left off against Wales with some beautiful, beautiful lines and steps, ball in hand. YYYYAAAYYY!!!</p>
<p>Lote too showed he&#8217;s still got passion. Maybe Robbie can convince him to watch Drew and run not &#8216;at&#8217; but &#8216;by&#8217; opposing players without taking his foot off the gas. He doesn&#8217;t realise how big he is!</p>
<p>George was great. Is he bionic?     &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.Roll on 2009. &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..MERRY CHRISTMAS Mr. DEANS!</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-4/#comment-95332</link>
		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:59:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks Jonny, you&#039;ve saved me from being dissapointed and educated me at the same time. Fine commemoration to wear Cornwell County socks. I love that sort of stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks Jonny, you&#8217;ve saved me from being dissapointed and educated me at the same time. Fine commemoration to wear Cornwell County socks. I love that sort of stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: JonnyP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JonnyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mick, I think they were all wearing the socks of Cornwall County to commemorate the Australia v Cornwall match in the Olympics(1908 I think)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mick, I think they were all wearing the socks of Cornwall County to commemorate the Australia v Cornwall match in the Olympics(1908 I think)</p>
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		<title>By: mick</title>
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		<dc:creator>mick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 11:43:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just had a look at the you tube clip. Was it just the poor picture or did the Baa Baa&#039;s all play with the same socks. I thought the players traditionally played in their local club socks. 
I remember as a young bloke watching a baa baa game with my dad on tv and seing Steve Cutler wearing his Gordon socks. The very socks I wore on Saturdays. I was a proud little Gordon boy that day. I couldn&#039;t believe my humble club socks could make it all the way to England. I have loved the tradition ever since. 
I didn&#039;t see the game this morning so I&#039;m not sure what they were wearing. Am I right in thinking that this has been lost from the Baa Baa&#039;s? If so I&#039;m a bit dissapointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just had a look at the you tube clip. Was it just the poor picture or did the Baa Baa&#8217;s all play with the same socks. I thought the players traditionally played in their local club socks.<br />
I remember as a young bloke watching a baa baa game with my dad on tv and seing Steve Cutler wearing his Gordon socks. The very socks I wore on Saturdays. I was a proud little Gordon boy that day. I couldn&#8217;t believe my humble club socks could make it all the way to England. I have loved the tradition ever since.<br />
I didn&#8217;t see the game this morning so I&#8217;m not sure what they were wearing. Am I right in thinking that this has been lost from the Baa Baa&#8217;s? If so I&#8217;m a bit dissapointed.</p>
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		<title>By: James Mortimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 07:19:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Those looking for a precious few minutes of Baa&#039;s baa&#039;s game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MZEzR_93ZA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those looking for a precious few minutes of Baa&#8217;s baa&#8217;s game:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MZEzR_93ZA" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MZEzR_93ZA</a></p>
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		<title>By: B Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>B Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:50:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Final is the Decisive Battle to establish the winner of the tournament, which is not the same as being the best team in the tournament.

Spiro, nice article but that comment puzzles me. Who would you rate as a better team in the last World Cup that England and South Africa. Surely not NZ, Australia or France as they all lost?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Final is the Decisive Battle to establish the winner of the tournament, which is not the same as being the best team in the tournament.</p>
<p>Spiro, nice article but that comment puzzles me. Who would you rate as a better team in the last World Cup that England and South Africa. Surely not NZ, Australia or France as they all lost?</p>
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		<title>By: Tarpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tarpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 06:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;Connor has played most of his rugby at 10. Wouldn&#039;t mind seeing him have run there for the Force with Gits out one to 12.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;Connor has played most of his rugby at 10. Wouldn&#8217;t mind seeing him have run there for the Force with Gits out one to 12.</p>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
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		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 04:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amateur Hour - Great idea pity it didnt come up as a topic PRIOR to this game starting and maybe it could have been argued for in the media.

Who Needs Melon - O&#039;Connor went amazingly well at full back when you consider what was involved in that game and his age. Maybe he could make it there as he has a good kick on him and runs and steps well as we already knew. Putting him at centre, as you say, puts him up against too much competition and we are short of full backs. This kid could do anything.

Worlds Biggest - Yes it was an absolute treat to watch the back row battles that went on, it was a game within a game. Collins doesnt seem to be missing much in impact or speed. Pity my dvd recorder is on the blink and I dont have a copy of the game. Would love to watch it again.

Certainly NOT a classic BABA&#039;s game more of a test match. The most enjoyable game (from an Aussie point of view) this year. Bring on the future guys it looks pretty rosy at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amateur Hour &#8211; Great idea pity it didnt come up as a topic PRIOR to this game starting and maybe it could have been argued for in the media.</p>
<p>Who Needs Melon &#8211; O&#8217;Connor went amazingly well at full back when you consider what was involved in that game and his age. Maybe he could make it there as he has a good kick on him and runs and steps well as we already knew. Putting him at centre, as you say, puts him up against too much competition and we are short of full backs. This kid could do anything.</p>
<p>Worlds Biggest &#8211; Yes it was an absolute treat to watch the back row battles that went on, it was a game within a game. Collins doesnt seem to be missing much in impact or speed. Pity my dvd recorder is on the blink and I dont have a copy of the game. Would love to watch it again.</p>
<p>Certainly NOT a classic BABA&#8217;s game more of a test match. The most enjoyable game (from an Aussie point of view) this year. Bring on the future guys it looks pretty rosy at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Worlds Biggest</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-3/#comment-95167</link>
		<dc:creator>Worlds Biggest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stillmissit, that Pocock cover tackle was a cracker, he then got up and made the next tackle, just a classy play. Burger was the best forward for the Baa Baa&#039;s, he was everywhere and a handful to bring down every time. To see Burger, McCaw and Smith all on the paddock in the same game was a treat we probably wont see again. The 3 best open sides of this decade, just awesome. Then to see the future heir to Smith&#039;s throne in Pocock was icing on the cake. The commentators gave Smith the MOM but AAC or Burger could have won it. O&#039;Connor is slight but is only 18 and will beef up ove the years, he looks good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stillmissit, that Pocock cover tackle was a cracker, he then got up and made the next tackle, just a classy play. Burger was the best forward for the Baa Baa&#8217;s, he was everywhere and a handful to bring down every time. To see Burger, McCaw and Smith all on the paddock in the same game was a treat we probably wont see again. The 3 best open sides of this decade, just awesome. Then to see the future heir to Smith&#8217;s throne in Pocock was icing on the cake. The commentators gave Smith the MOM but AAC or Burger could have won it. O&#8217;Connor is slight but is only 18 and will beef up ove the years, he looks good.</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-3/#comment-95160</link>
		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:32:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s worth noting that the Welsh rugby union are busy organising extra Test fixtures against the SH sides for the next two years. They&#039;re taking this seriously.</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-3/#comment-95155</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with most that Spiro writes, especially the point that a likely QF against Wales may be a difficult assignment for the Wallabies if the current Welsh upturn continues. Then again, how often do Wales play well in the southern hemisphere?

One point Spiro neglects to make is that the RWC has never been won by a team that has lost in pool play. Thus while pool matches are not elimination matches, one might argue that de facto they are. It will be interesting to see if there is any media hype over this point in the buildup to the NZ-France pool clash in 2011, which is likely to be the tournament&#039;s opening match.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with most that Spiro writes, especially the point that a likely QF against Wales may be a difficult assignment for the Wallabies if the current Welsh upturn continues. Then again, how often do Wales play well in the southern hemisphere?</p>
<p>One point Spiro neglects to make is that the RWC has never been won by a team that has lost in pool play. Thus while pool matches are not elimination matches, one might argue that de facto they are. It will be interesting to see if there is any media hype over this point in the buildup to the NZ-France pool clash in 2011, which is likely to be the tournament&#8217;s opening match.</p>
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		<title>By: Homer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;Conner is even smaller than Gits so it would be a brave coach to have two 85kg players in the midfield to tackle Burger et al.</description>
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		<title>By: Who Needs Melon</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-3/#comment-95145</link>
		<dc:creator>Who Needs Melon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>stillmissit,

I haven&#039;t seen the game yet but happy we won and some of the young uns went well.

No shock that AAC had a good game in the centres where he belongs.

Regarding O&#039;Connor, he played at fullback didn&#039;t he? I think in S14 he was playing as a centre. Where do you think he will end up? As a centre, he obviously has some tough competition in Barnes and Giteau yet we seem to be in need of a decent fullback. Does he have the kicking game required?

Can&#039;t wait to see the game.

Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stillmissit,</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t seen the game yet but happy we won and some of the young uns went well.</p>
<p>No shock that AAC had a good game in the centres where he belongs.</p>
<p>Regarding O&#8217;Connor, he played at fullback didn&#8217;t he? I think in S14 he was playing as a centre. Where do you think he will end up? As a centre, he obviously has some tough competition in Barnes and Giteau yet we seem to be in need of a decent fullback. Does he have the kicking game required?</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see the game.</p>
<p>Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: Amateur Hour</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-2/#comment-95140</link>
		<dc:creator>Amateur Hour</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:13:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why, as far as I could tell, was this game not played under the full ELVs?  This would have been the perfect opportunity to run them up the falg pole in a northern hemisphere bastion.  The vast majority of the players were from the southern hemisphere and would have been familiar with the rules and accustomed to the faster pace.  Every time a full-arm penalty was awarded and a kick was opted for, the crowd groaned and rightfully so.  An opportunity lost in my books.

No replay on 10.  And Fox didn&#039;t pick it up because it wasn&#039;t a sanctioned test match.

A big wrap needs to go to Mark Chisholm who, at one point in the first half, seemed to be making every tackle within our 22.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why, as far as I could tell, was this game not played under the full ELVs?  This would have been the perfect opportunity to run them up the falg pole in a northern hemisphere bastion.  The vast majority of the players were from the southern hemisphere and would have been familiar with the rules and accustomed to the faster pace.  Every time a full-arm penalty was awarded and a kick was opted for, the crowd groaned and rightfully so.  An opportunity lost in my books.</p>
<p>No replay on 10.  And Fox didn&#8217;t pick it up because it wasn&#8217;t a sanctioned test match.</p>
<p>A big wrap needs to go to Mark Chisholm who, at one point in the first half, seemed to be making every tackle within our 22.</p>
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		<title>By: van der Merwe</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-2/#comment-95138</link>
		<dc:creator>van der Merwe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steyn&#039;s kak kicking, the uncompetitive scrums for most of the second half, and Deans&#039;s cynical tactics (in a supposedly &quot;fun&quot; game, of all places) stopped this match from being a true spectacle. 

The Burger/McCaw combo was truly awesome to behold, though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steyn&#8217;s kak kicking, the uncompetitive scrums for most of the second half, and Deans&#8217;s cynical tactics (in a supposedly &#8220;fun&#8221; game, of all places) stopped this match from being a true spectacle. </p>
<p>The Burger/McCaw combo was truly awesome to behold, though.</p>
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		<title>By: James Mortimer</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-2/#comment-95136</link>
		<dc:creator>James Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think a McCaw Burger Collins backrow is potentially one of the best loose forward combinations ever.</description>
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		<title>By: James Mortimer</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-2/#comment-95135</link>
		<dc:creator>James Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 02:09:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BUGGER!!!!!

I didn&#039;t even think to check Channel 10.  I think after I watched the Italy Wallabies game with that atrocious English commentator that I hot wired my TV to never get channel 10 again.

Does anyone remember?  He called Dunning the world&#039;s best prop.  Constantly referred to the Australian&#039;s playing Super 12, and said that Australia has the best tactical kickers in the world - despite Burgess having I think three kicks charged in the first half.  

He also said it was a shame Mark Ella wasn&#039;t selected for the game, and that David Campese should be on the bench (OK, I made that last bit up).

Dissapointed though, must have been a shining game.

But then really, who wakes up at 6 AM?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BUGGER!!!!!</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t even think to check Channel 10.  I think after I watched the Italy Wallabies game with that atrocious English commentator that I hot wired my TV to never get channel 10 again.</p>
<p>Does anyone remember?  He called Dunning the world&#8217;s best prop.  Constantly referred to the Australian&#8217;s playing Super 12, and said that Australia has the best tactical kickers in the world &#8211; despite Burgess having I think three kicks charged in the first half.  </p>
<p>He also said it was a shame Mark Ella wasn&#8217;t selected for the game, and that David Campese should be on the bench (OK, I made that last bit up).</p>
<p>Dissapointed though, must have been a shining game.</p>
<p>But then really, who wakes up at 6 AM?</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-2/#comment-95115</link>
		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most curious thing to me about the 2011 World Cup is how the Wallabies will fare at Eden Park.</description>
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		<title>By: stillmissit</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2008/12/04/let-the-mind-games-for-the-2011-rwc-begin/comment-page-2/#comment-95112</link>
		<dc:creator>stillmissit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jam - Rodney Blake went OK and looks a lot fitter than he ever did whilst in OZ. He was a replacement and then was replaced with about 15mins to go - I think. Gregan also went OK well within his limits but not bad for all that. 

McCaw, Burger and Collins were everywhere and it took a guts effort to stop them particularly Collins. Steyn killed the game for the Baba&#039;s and I was surprised that White didnt pull him. Habana played his normal great game but was kept under control. One tackle when I thought he was away was around his bootlaces and it was Pocock who picked him up on the touchline before he had totally lit the after-burners. Great tackle by Pocock.

James Mortimer - It was on FTA Ch 10 at 6am. They may do a replay but dont count on it. Not bad coverage either, much beter than Ch 7 was.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jam &#8211; Rodney Blake went OK and looks a lot fitter than he ever did whilst in OZ. He was a replacement and then was replaced with about 15mins to go &#8211; I think. Gregan also went OK well within his limits but not bad for all that. </p>
<p>McCaw, Burger and Collins were everywhere and it took a guts effort to stop them particularly Collins. Steyn killed the game for the Baba&#8217;s and I was surprised that White didnt pull him. Habana played his normal great game but was kept under control. One tackle when I thought he was away was around his bootlaces and it was Pocock who picked him up on the touchline before he had totally lit the after-burners. Great tackle by Pocock.</p>
<p>James Mortimer &#8211; It was on FTA Ch 10 at 6am. They may do a replay but dont count on it. Not bad coverage either, much beter than Ch 7 was.</p>
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		<title>By: Wallythefly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wallythefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James, channel 10! Dont know why Fox didn&#039;t have it,</description>
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		<title>By: jam</title>
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		<dc:creator>jam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 01:20:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How did Rodney Blake go for the Baa-Baas?  Unless he&#039;s become a lot fitter I wouldn&#039;t have thought it was his style of game.</description>
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