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	<title>Comments on: Sydney is no longer one of the great sporting cities</title>
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		<title>By: sharminator</title>
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		<dc:creator>sharminator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 11:14:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve always found the Sydney and Sport relationship interesting.

At times Sydney has really got into sport for short periods of time, such as the Olympics ... but it seems the attention span of sydney siders is different to Melbournites or Brisbanites.

At various times Aussie Rules, Union, Basketball, and Soccer have had waves of popularity for a few years before there seems to be some burnout and a wish to see a new team or sport.

Sydney is a city surrounded by beaches ... and there is a lot to do. Even in the middle of winter it is often warm and sunny enough to go to the beach.

Melbourne is colder, and for me this is a reason why in the winter the footy with a meat pie is a better option than the beach with a wooly jumper, which is why you can get 100 000 people to a game of tiddlywinks in the rain.

I think its just something about the weather, the closeness of the beach to the city, and the nature of sydneysiders ... and that it isnt going to change.

In that light .. recent decisions of the AFL to expand to Sydney and Rugby&#039;s Super 15 to Melbourne (instead of Western Sydney) will be interesting to see in the long term ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always found the Sydney and Sport relationship interesting.</p>
<p>At times Sydney has really got into sport for short periods of time, such as the Olympics &#8230; but it seems the attention span of sydney siders is different to Melbournites or Brisbanites.</p>
<p>At various times Aussie Rules, Union, Basketball, and Soccer have had waves of popularity for a few years before there seems to be some burnout and a wish to see a new team or sport.</p>
<p>Sydney is a city surrounded by beaches &#8230; and there is a lot to do. Even in the middle of winter it is often warm and sunny enough to go to the beach.</p>
<p>Melbourne is colder, and for me this is a reason why in the winter the footy with a meat pie is a better option than the beach with a wooly jumper, which is why you can get 100 000 people to a game of tiddlywinks in the rain.</p>
<p>I think its just something about the weather, the closeness of the beach to the city, and the nature of sydneysiders &#8230; and that it isnt going to change.</p>
<p>In that light .. recent decisions of the AFL to expand to Sydney and Rugby&#8217;s Super 15 to Melbourne (instead of Western Sydney) will be interesting to see in the long term &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Corey</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/01/01/2008-the-year-sports-in-sydney-faded/comment-page-2/#comment-272116</link>
		<dc:creator>Corey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 02:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The thing about Suncorp is that it is easy to get to. It is well designed and when Brisbanites arrive you can feel the anticipation, with Sydney you cannot feel that. I still think the Broncos have a fair way to go. To be honest Rugby League matches should be sold out, this is the greatest game of all. I think Melbourne has a different culture, a lot of Europeans who turn up to sports. Look at Sydney and Brisbane, most of the immigrants are from Asia and a lot more multicultural than those Mexicans, but this should not dictate the size of the crowd. All clubs need to work on crowd attendance.

  The Green Bay Packers have a town of 310,000 and yet sell out there stadium with a seated membership ticket having a waiting list of 74,000 people. It takes an average of 100 years to get a membership. This is how Rugby League should be in Sydney and Brisbane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing about Suncorp is that it is easy to get to. It is well designed and when Brisbanites arrive you can feel the anticipation, with Sydney you cannot feel that. I still think the Broncos have a fair way to go. To be honest Rugby League matches should be sold out, this is the greatest game of all. I think Melbourne has a different culture, a lot of Europeans who turn up to sports. Look at Sydney and Brisbane, most of the immigrants are from Asia and a lot more multicultural than those Mexicans, but this should not dictate the size of the crowd. All clubs need to work on crowd attendance.</p>
<p>  The Green Bay Packers have a town of 310,000 and yet sell out there stadium with a seated membership ticket having a waiting list of 74,000 people. It takes an average of 100 years to get a membership. This is how Rugby League should be in Sydney and Brisbane.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Pearce</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/01/01/2008-the-year-sports-in-sydney-faded/comment-page-2/#comment-124562</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Pearce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 18:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow a sydneysider admitting they arent the best thing since sliced bread the end is nigh....

Anyhoo...

The main point is that they need to desperately demolish the ANZ stadium its a white elephant and will never be any good unless you can get an event every week that can draw 80k and that wont happen.

Build stadiums that are user friendly and close to railway lines et al.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow a sydneysider admitting they arent the best thing since sliced bread the end is nigh&#8230;.</p>
<p>Anyhoo&#8230;</p>
<p>The main point is that they need to desperately demolish the ANZ stadium its a white elephant and will never be any good unless you can get an event every week that can draw 80k and that wont happen.</p>
<p>Build stadiums that are user friendly and close to railway lines et al.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/01/01/2008-the-year-sports-in-sydney-faded/comment-page-2/#comment-116902</link>
		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sam

You have a point a big spend on Homebush even if it took 20, 000 seats away would be good just to make it usable or should I say user friendly..</description>
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<p>You have a point a big spend on Homebush even if it took 20, 000 seats away would be good just to make it usable or should I say user friendly..</p>
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		<title>By: westy</title>
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		<dc:creator>westy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only exception to this is the  New Year cricket test at the SCG. There is nothing quite like it. The ladies stand the history the aura. It still has it and matches up with any other Australian cricket test venue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only exception to this is the  New Year cricket test at the SCG. There is nothing quite like it. The ladies stand the history the aura. It still has it and matches up with any other Australian cricket test venue.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still think that maybe a 50,000 rectangular could be rebuilt at Homebush in place of the current ANZ Stadium. The Olympic is precinct is something which Sydney should treasure for eternity. Look at how Melbourne preserves its city. And to think that we were going to pull down all the building in The Rocks for high rises!

Who cares about the North Shore and Eastern Suburbs residents anyway. The sporting heartland of Sydney is in the West.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still think that maybe a 50,000 rectangular could be rebuilt at Homebush in place of the current ANZ Stadium. The Olympic is precinct is something which Sydney should treasure for eternity. Look at how Melbourne preserves its city. And to think that we were going to pull down all the building in The Rocks for high rises!</p>
<p>Who cares about the North Shore and Eastern Suburbs residents anyway. The sporting heartland of Sydney is in the West.</p>
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		<title>By: westy</title>
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		<dc:creator>westy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 10:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the sadest indictment of the NRL Bulldogs fiasco with liverpool council was rthat the development itself was brilliant. A purpose built 35000 seat rectangular stadium with a purpose built basketball 20000 stadium and state of art GYm training fields pools in an area bereft of facilities located near Liverpool station and with designated parking areas and close proximity to M7. Sad that morons at the Bulldogs decided to use the project as a disguise to mask breaching the salary cap. i saw the plans at Liverpool Council . Funded by macquarie and a project that was unbeatable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the sadest indictment of the NRL Bulldogs fiasco with liverpool council was rthat the development itself was brilliant. A purpose built 35000 seat rectangular stadium with a purpose built basketball 20000 stadium and state of art GYm training fields pools in an area bereft of facilities located near Liverpool station and with designated parking areas and close proximity to M7. Sad that morons at the Bulldogs decided to use the project as a disguise to mask breaching the salary cap. i saw the plans at Liverpool Council . Funded by macquarie and a project that was unbeatable.</p>
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		<title>By: Fragglerocker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fragglerocker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Feb 2009 09:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sydney has two problems:

1 Pathetic stadiums. Surely when they were building Stadim Australia for the olympics someone should have pointed out that they were building a stadium for athletics - not a rugby/soccer/AFL/cricket/morris dancing/Iron Chef stadium. An OBLONG stadium to be used for rectangle-pitch and oval-pitch sports. Bad for all sports good for none. The stadium was built for asthetics alone. The stadium is to be viewed, it is not designed for spectators to view sports. NSW cut your losses, bulldoze the thing before it turns into an even bigger white elephant. 

Sydney just doesn&#039;t have a stadium even close to the best purpose-built stadiums in the world, such as the Millenium Stadium Cardiff, Melbourne Tennis Centre, Madison Square garden, PNC Park Pittsburgh, The MCG, or even the Gold Caost Titans (when the intended crowd size is considered). As for the SFS, I&#039;ll never understand how someone could build a stadium so large and yet have such a small capacity. 

2 Lack of infrastructure to get to and from sporting events at the pathethic stadiums. As anyone who has ever visited Sydney, let alone tried living there will understand, this point needs no explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sydney has two problems:</p>
<p>1 Pathetic stadiums. Surely when they were building Stadim Australia for the olympics someone should have pointed out that they were building a stadium for athletics &#8211; not a rugby/soccer/AFL/cricket/morris dancing/Iron Chef stadium. An OBLONG stadium to be used for rectangle-pitch and oval-pitch sports. Bad for all sports good for none. The stadium was built for asthetics alone. The stadium is to be viewed, it is not designed for spectators to view sports. NSW cut your losses, bulldoze the thing before it turns into an even bigger white elephant. </p>
<p>Sydney just doesn&#8217;t have a stadium even close to the best purpose-built stadiums in the world, such as the Millenium Stadium Cardiff, Melbourne Tennis Centre, Madison Square garden, PNC Park Pittsburgh, The MCG, or even the Gold Caost Titans (when the intended crowd size is considered). As for the SFS, I&#8217;ll never understand how someone could build a stadium so large and yet have such a small capacity. </p>
<p>2 Lack of infrastructure to get to and from sporting events at the pathethic stadiums. As anyone who has ever visited Sydney, let alone tried living there will understand, this point needs no explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 02:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is that this problem has been a long time in the making. 

Clearly infrastructure and the way the govt does not plan for much in terms of road, transport or new venues is self evident. 

It does not help that the SCG trust seems to interfere with every long term planning decision that gets us shot in the foot. For example Parramatta Stadium when built was restricted because of a &quot; phony &quot; environmental issue, building Sydney Stadium as a multi-purpose venue (code for not a real rectangular ground), Sydney Council being lobbyed by &quot;guess who&quot; to prevent Redfern from being a full capacity NRL venue and therefore not rival the SFS.

I for one don&#039;t think Sydney ends at South Dowling Street but sporting infrastructure is being decided by wealthy people who have not connection with the paying population. Consider if Sydney FC played out of a Western venue, would they not drag more families there? 

Admittedly ANZ Stadium is hard to grasp when 15,0000 - 20,000 show up for games. But the transport, ease of access, convenience leaves the SFS for dead. You would think that rugby league, football, rugby union would get together and lobby to have a boutique stadium at Homebush at 30,000 capacity. This should be enclosed, super modern ........how hard is this really??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The issue is that this problem has been a long time in the making. </p>
<p>Clearly infrastructure and the way the govt does not plan for much in terms of road, transport or new venues is self evident. </p>
<p>It does not help that the SCG trust seems to interfere with every long term planning decision that gets us shot in the foot. For example Parramatta Stadium when built was restricted because of a &#8221; phony &#8221; environmental issue, building Sydney Stadium as a multi-purpose venue (code for not a real rectangular ground), Sydney Council being lobbyed by &#8220;guess who&#8221; to prevent Redfern from being a full capacity NRL venue and therefore not rival the SFS.</p>
<p>I for one don&#8217;t think Sydney ends at South Dowling Street but sporting infrastructure is being decided by wealthy people who have not connection with the paying population. Consider if Sydney FC played out of a Western venue, would they not drag more families there? </p>
<p>Admittedly ANZ Stadium is hard to grasp when 15,0000 &#8211; 20,000 show up for games. But the transport, ease of access, convenience leaves the SFS for dead. You would think that rugby league, football, rugby union would get together and lobby to have a boutique stadium at Homebush at 30,000 capacity. This should be enclosed, super modern &#8230;&#8230;..how hard is this really??</p>
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		<title>By: Jaredsbro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaredsbro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 07:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol. Of all the Sydneysiders in here can any of you guys tell me how to get people not that interested in a BIG MATCH to attend, we here in Auckland have this issue about as much as Sydney and we&#039;ve had the America&#039;s Cup more recently (and defended it from the Ams)

I think it has everything to do with culture as y&#039;all have said. Melbourne has one less code of football (in the regular BIG GAME stakes) and it still gets biggish crowds for the other two codes. And Perth used to be in the &#039;Glory days&#039;  But Melbourne&#039;s also the centre of other kinds of culture: and Warnies doin pretty well in a place that has had its ups and downs with him ;)

It&#039;s actually an issue happening in many parts of the world. Seeing as we have heaps of brainpower here, what are we gonna do about it as Mr Mac said? Goodness I am planning on living in Sydney one day after I finish Uni, I&#039;d like to think the issues sort out before I make touchdown there</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol. Of all the Sydneysiders in here can any of you guys tell me how to get people not that interested in a BIG MATCH to attend, we here in Auckland have this issue about as much as Sydney and we&#8217;ve had the America&#8217;s Cup more recently (and defended it from the Ams)</p>
<p>I think it has everything to do with culture as y&#8217;all have said. Melbourne has one less code of football (in the regular BIG GAME stakes) and it still gets biggish crowds for the other two codes. And Perth used to be in the &#8216;Glory days&#8217;  But Melbourne&#8217;s also the centre of other kinds of culture: and Warnies doin pretty well in a place that has had its ups and downs with him <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>It&#8217;s actually an issue happening in many parts of the world. Seeing as we have heaps of brainpower here, what are we gonna do about it as Mr Mac said? Goodness I am planning on living in Sydney one day after I finish Uni, I&#8217;d like to think the issues sort out before I make touchdown there</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:43:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cherubos 

I think you&#039;ll find there are people who will object to that (people who don&#039;t travel west of Balmain so to speak). I would support a new stadium in the city if it was 5-10 min walk when you get of Central (maybe near Entertainment Centre). SFS is a good 30 min walk and when you get there you are practically in the Eastern Suburbs.

Otherwise make ANZ Stadium rectangular. It is our Olympic Stadium if anybody happened to forget...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cherubos </p>
<p>I think you&#8217;ll find there are people who will object to that (people who don&#8217;t travel west of Balmain so to speak). I would support a new stadium in the city if it was 5-10 min walk when you get of Central (maybe near Entertainment Centre). SFS is a good 30 min walk and when you get there you are practically in the Eastern Suburbs.</p>
<p>Otherwise make ANZ Stadium rectangular. It is our Olympic Stadium if anybody happened to forget&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cherubos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherubos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 06:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sydney doesn&#039;t have a decent major event rectangular football stadium.  I&#039;m talking 80,000 seater. The government should build a replica or larger of Brisbane&#039;s Suncorp Stadium at Eastern Creek. Close down the race track, build huge car parks, access roads to the M4 and top it off with a rail line from Blacktown. Easy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sydney doesn&#8217;t have a decent major event rectangular football stadium.  I&#8217;m talking 80,000 seater. The government should build a replica or larger of Brisbane&#8217;s Suncorp Stadium at Eastern Creek. Close down the race track, build huge car parks, access roads to the M4 and top it off with a rail line from Blacktown. Easy!</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve 

Have to disagree with you about Socceroos and Wallabies. I think these teams get well supported in Sydney. Otherwise I can&#039;t argue with what you wrote.

Cherubos makes a very good point. Much easier to watch games at home or at pub. Spiro, for me the SFS is actually a nightmare to get to. Homebush is a lot easier and I&#039;d probably prefer the big games there. Although there is no real perfect place to for a stadium in Sydney I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve </p>
<p>Have to disagree with you about Socceroos and Wallabies. I think these teams get well supported in Sydney. Otherwise I can&#8217;t argue with what you wrote.</p>
<p>Cherubos makes a very good point. Much easier to watch games at home or at pub. Spiro, for me the SFS is actually a nightmare to get to. Homebush is a lot easier and I&#8217;d probably prefer the big games there. Although there is no real perfect place to for a stadium in Sydney I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr Mac</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr Mac</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiro (et el) - what&#039;s the solution?
These days we want grounds that are customised to the game.
I have never watched a Rugby or Soccer match at the MCG - I am sure it would not be as good as at Brisbane but then AFL would be useless there.  As you point out the SCG is a Cricket ground (&amp; AFL - but don&#039;t some of their purists say it is too small) RL left it years ago
Knock down the SFS &amp; build a 70K capacity ground?  Maybe a Kev 09 project but I don&#039;t think it would fit in the space.  So where to?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiro (et el) &#8211; what&#8217;s the solution?<br />
These days we want grounds that are customised to the game.<br />
I have never watched a Rugby or Soccer match at the MCG &#8211; I am sure it would not be as good as at Brisbane but then AFL would be useless there.  As you point out the SCG is a Cricket ground (&amp; AFL &#8211; but don&#8217;t some of their purists say it is too small) RL left it years ago<br />
Knock down the SFS &amp; build a 70K capacity ground?  Maybe a Kev 09 project but I don&#8217;t think it would fit in the space.  So where to?</p>
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		<title>By: cosmos forever</title>
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		<dc:creator>cosmos forever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 05:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i certainly wouldn&#039;t want to head anywhere to get to a sporting event after spending 90 minutes crawling through the m5 tunnels to get home...</description>
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		<title>By: Cherubos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherubos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 03:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I blame the NSW Labor Government. The traffic and public transport to sporting venues is pathetic. It might work for the mega events like the NRL Grand Final &amp; Bledisloe, but for the rest of the time getting around Sydney to see some weekend sporting action is a pain. Far better off investing in a new Plasma, beers and Foxtel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I blame the NSW Labor Government. The traffic and public transport to sporting venues is pathetic. It might work for the mega events like the NRL Grand Final &amp; Bledisloe, but for the rest of the time getting around Sydney to see some weekend sporting action is a pain. Far better off investing in a new Plasma, beers and Foxtel.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 23:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s also not forget Sydney&#039;s basketball teams (if there are any left).

But we should look for positives, and surely Sydney has always been the soul and heart of Australia&#039;s yachting fraternity.

As it happens, the Australian yachting championships are on at this very moment, at the Illawarra YC and on Lake Macquarie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s also not forget Sydney&#8217;s basketball teams (if there are any left).</p>
<p>But we should look for positives, and surely Sydney has always been the soul and heart of Australia&#8217;s yachting fraternity.</p>
<p>As it happens, the Australian yachting championships are on at this very moment, at the Illawarra YC and on Lake Macquarie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Spiro Zavos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiro Zavos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve is right. The atmosphere at big matches in Sydney does not compare with Brisbane and Melbourne. I&#039;d make an exception to this. The SCG remains a superb ground, redolent with history, for the cricket. The new Trumper Stand provides one of the great viewing spots for Test cricket anywhere. 
But we get back to the ANZ Stadium problem. Brisbane and Melbourne have their biggest grounds near the centre of the city (right in the city in the case of Brisbane). The grounds are easily accessible and built for viewing AFL and league. Fans show their appreciation by being great fans. 
The Wallabies are playing a Test at the SFSin 2009, a ground that CAN have atmosphere if the fans are up to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve is right. The atmosphere at big matches in Sydney does not compare with Brisbane and Melbourne. I&#8217;d make an exception to this. The SCG remains a superb ground, redolent with history, for the cricket. The new Trumper Stand provides one of the great viewing spots for Test cricket anywhere.<br />
But we get back to the ANZ Stadium problem. Brisbane and Melbourne have their biggest grounds near the centre of the city (right in the city in the case of Brisbane). The grounds are easily accessible and built for viewing AFL and league. Fans show their appreciation by being great fans.<br />
The Wallabies are playing a Test at the SFSin 2009, a ground that CAN have atmosphere if the fans are up to it.</p>
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