Did Pim have to be that right about A-League
By Con Stamocostas, 11 Mar 2009 Con Stamocostas is a Roar Pro
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The Socceroos 1-0 loss to Kuwait makes everyone look bad. Pim was right about the A-league, but did he have to be that right?
Ignoring stats about games played, goals scored, goals conceded, Pim Verbeek has shown that sometimes Football is a very difficult game to play.
It seems the players are finding it difficult to pass the ball, run with the ball, and shoot the ball and all the other stuff like positioning and thinking and playing.
The mistakes of the past are being repeated, but this time the FFA is paying a higher price for the privilege
Using local based players to qualify for international tournaments has cost Australia in the past. The loss to New Zealand during qualifying for the confederations cup in 1999 and 2003 was a symptom of the cashless governing body at the time, who could not afford to bring their best players from Europe, some players even paying their own way.
It was a lack of respect shown by the governing body to allow a team of such inexperienced players to play such an important international football game. This lack of respect was also shown in the limited preparation time that the Socceroos trained under.
Kuwait had been training for six weeks playing games against New Zealand sides. The Socceroos had three training session together.
After the game, the players where quoted as saying that they did not know much about the opposition. A quick phone called to Ricki Herbert, the New Zealand coach, would have helped.
The English Premier League was on a break and there are plenty of Socceroos on the bench in Europe that could have come back.
If this game was a World Cup qualifier, I’m betting that at least fifteen European players would have been back.
I fear part of the problem is the perception that our big boys only want to play the big games: World Cup qualifiers, Champions League, FA Cups, and so on.
Playing games against Asian countries for a little known competition known as the Asian Cup is not going to make the players who have played in the World Cup and the highest level in Europe feel motivated.
The Aussies knocked Kuwait out of the Asian cup qualifying last time. Kuwait sent their strongest team and prepared themselves appropriately.
Australia in Asia is considered to be number one enemy, like England is to Europe. There is a perception around Asia that the team is loud, cocky and arrogant. Lower ranked Asian teams are desperate to get one over the Aussies.
Pim has been giving hints that the A-League players were hopeless ever since he arrived. I have a feeling Pim could see the ship was about to sink, and his comments were a smart ruse from him so he could get some of his overseas troops back.
Hopefully his bosses will have learned the lessons.
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March 12th 2009 @ 1:27pm
md said | March 12th 2009 @ 1:27pm | Report comment
Well – possibly, but “lean time” is a probably a bit harsh. I think more likely, we are not going to see real improvement from our home-based players until the current youth league crop and those who follow them are coming through.
That shouldn’t result in too much damage to the national team, provided that they take things a bit more seriously – i.e. they should still qualify for the finals of major tournaments. Its also the case that there are some very very good players reaching their peak between 2010 and 2014 – heaps more than we had in 2006. For example, Dukes never scored as many for Celtic as Scotty Mac has and will. Garcia, Triosi, Djite, Spira and probably a dozen others, all have masses of potential. So there is a crop out there that will potentially be every bit as good as the WC2006 set and they can carry the team for the next 4 years with reasonable success. Not many of them play in the A-league though that that will continue for the forseeable future. So either we will need to do away with entirely local based socceroos teams, or we will have a few more years of struggling along at the current level before things improve.
There needs to be some expectation management too. We have gone from really happy just to be at the WC in 2006, to a scenario where, if we don’t qualify for WC2010 on 1 April 2009 (with 3 games to spare), there will be general mass hysteria and panic, many time the scale of what we have seen this week. In a way its great that we have such high expectations – that will drive improvement, but it’s also potentially very destructive.
Cheers
md
March 12th 2009 @ 2:28pm
Towser said | March 12th 2009 @ 2:28pm | Report comment
Pim isn’t telling us anything we dont know already know about our football progress. Its just that he’s high profile.
What I dont accept though is sitting back on our laurels with the A-League players & waiting for development to occur. The difficulties regarding player availability are not going to change,so the scenario whereby a team put onto the park with zilch International experience does. How does the FFA do that? What about some matches with our old friends the Kiwis,before the likes of Mitch Nicholls is thrown into the International arena against experienced Kuwait. Or as Foss suggested the Olyroo team is our Asian Cup team. Whatever formula is worked out we dont want repeats of last Thursday.
What amazes me is that this sort of thing has happened before a few years ago when we were beaten by New Zealand 1-0 when trying to qualify for the Confederations Cup & Scotty Chipperfield played his guts out to no avail after paying his own airfare.
md
Potentially destructive or not I’ll take high expectations above any of the expectations prior to 2005. What comes with high expectations is High planning then theres less chance of destruction. On that point Pim & the FFA failed against Kuwait.
March 12th 2009 @ 2:50pm
jimbo said | March 12th 2009 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
Towser,
Agree with what you’re saying and not only is Pimbo high profile – he’s the bloody coach of the national team!
Bizarre – nowhere else in the world do you get this.
I’m still not convinced the FFA decided who was picked for the team and how much preparation they got. That’s Pimbo’s job and he gets all the support he wants from the FFA.
I don’t know if it was arrogance, overconfidence or deliberate, but that’s the team we got and the preparation we got which led to the result we got.
March 15th 2009 @ 9:04pm
jimbo said | March 15th 2009 @ 9:04pm | Report comment
Had to chuckle to myself when I read this.
http://blogs.sunherald.com.au/matthewhall/archives/2009/02/pim_verbeek_rad.html
Although I can sense the Pimbo uninventive backlash just about now . . .
“Vat the farrk, we’re gettink resuults aren’t ve?”
“Well actually Pim, no, we lost one nil to Kuwait. Although you mightn’t have seen it because you weren’t in the manager’s box and . . . ”
March 22nd 2009 @ 1:48am
Green n Gold 2010 said | March 22nd 2009 @ 1:48am | Report comment
Where is Nicky Carle!!!
Comeone guys time for some playmakers and people who can win games off their own boot!!!!!!!!!
ARRRRRGHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!