Australian cricket’s best ever team
By sheek, 26 Mar 2009 The Crowd is a Roar Pro
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It’s been a decade since since sixteen eminent Australian ex-cricketers and commentators, plus four international ex-cricketers, selected Australian cricket’s ‘Team Of The Century’.
It was as follows:
Arthur Morris
Bill Ponsford
Don Bradman(c)
Neil Harvey
Greg Chappell
Keith Miller(vc)
Ian Healy(k)
Ray Lindwall
Shane Warne
Dennis Lillee
Bill O’Reilly
Allan Border(12th man)
The SMH ran an accompanying reader’s poll and the team differed slightly.
Trumper, Border and Tallon came into the XI for Ponsford, O’Reilly and Healy, respectively, while Waugh became 12th man. Here is the readers team, with percentages of readers preferences per player:
Arthur Morris – 65%
Victor Trumper – 46% (Ponsford 35%)
Don Bradman (c) – 100%
Neil Harvey – 62%
Greg Chappell – 73%
Allan Border – 58%
Keith Miller – 77%
Don Tallon(k) – 46% (Healy 31%)
Ray Lindwall – 85%
Shane Warne – 69% (O’Reilly 42%)
Dennis Lillee – 100%
Steve Waugh (12th man) – 50%
You will note that only Bradman and Lillee polled 100%, while next popular in order were Lindwall (85%), Miller (77%), G.Chappell (73%), Warne (69%) and Morris (65%).
Other luminaries polled as follows: Benaud, only 19%, Davidson 31%, Grimmett 8%, McGrath 19%.
Nineteenth century heroes Fred Spofforth, Bill Murdoch, Jack Blackham, Charles Turner, Hugh Trumble and George Giffen are all but forgotten (who speaks for them).
Remember, this was January 1999, and Gilchrist had not made his Test debut, while Hayden, Ponting and MacGrath had yet to add value to their illustrious careers.
So, if picking Australian cricket’s greatest ever team in March 2009, how would it differ from 10 years ago?
Well, here’s my team for what it’s worth:
Matt Hayden
Victor Trumper
Don Bradman (c)
Ricky Ponting (vc)
Greg Chappell
Keith Miller
Adam Gilchrist (k)
Ray Lindwall
Shane Warne
Dennis Lillee
Bill O’Reilly
Steve Waugh (12th man)
Okay, before anyone screams “what about McGrath?”, seriously, who are you going to drop out of Lillee or Lindwall?
And “what about Border,” I hear you say? Again, who are you going to drop out of Ponting, Chappell and Waugh?
My team is designed to take on all-comers in all conditions. It has five specialist batsmen, a keeper-batsman and five specialist bowlers (of which Miller is also a specialist bat).
There are three pacemen and two spinners (although both are leggies, they are entirely different types of bowlers). There are two lefties in the top seven (Hayden and Gilchrist).
Backup players for a touring team of 16 would be:
Charlie Macartney – opener and top order cover (also slow left arm spinner)
Ian Healy – backup keeper
Alan Davidson – leftarm pace bowling all-rounder
Glenn McGrath – backup paceman
An all-time second XI would look as follows:
A.Morris, W.Ponsford, C.Macartney, N.Harvey, A.Border (vc), S.Waugh (c), I.Healy (k), A.Davidson, C.Grimmett, F.Spofforth, G.McGrath.
What do Roar readers think?
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Wallythefly said | March 26th 2009 @ 8:39am | Report comment
Openers: Hayden, Ponsford
3: Bradman
4: Ponting
5: Border
6: Miller
7: Gilchrist
8: Lindwall
9: Warne
10: Lillie
11: McGrath
Brian said | March 26th 2009 @ 10:47am | Report comment
1. Morris
2. Ponsford
3. Bradman
4. Ponting
5. S Waugh
6. Miller
7. Gilchrist
8. Lindwall
9. Warne
10. Lillie
11. McGrath
Backup – Harvey, Chappel, Border, O’Reily, Grimmet
Robbos said | March 26th 2009 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Ponsford
Hayden
Bradman capt
Chappell
Ponting
Miller
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall
Lillee
Grimmet
12th man McGrath, unluckiest to miss out.
Jason Cave said | March 26th 2009 @ 4:15pm | Report comment
My team:
Ponsford
Langer
Bradman (c)
G.Chappell
Border
S.Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall
Lillee
McGrath
D.Walters 12th
ONSIDE said | March 26th 2009 @ 4:45pm | Report comment
And to think I have been fortunate enough to watch seven or eight of these all time greats in recent times
ozziejag said | March 26th 2009 @ 5:10pm | Report comment
How about a team of lefties or mollydookers
Morris
Hayden
Clem Hill
Harvey
Border
Davidson
Gilchrist
Mitchell Johnson
Meckiff
Bruce Reid
Bill Johnston
12th : J J Ferris{ According to Cricinfo the best bowling average in Tests 48 wkts @14.25 }
ozziejag said | March 26th 2009 @ 5:19pm | Report comment
Alan Davidson probably a bit high At no. 6.
Could swap him with J J Ferris { Late 1880′s }
How would the old timers such as Ponsford & Woodfull coped with running between the wickets with modern day opening batsmen but they had to run with Bradman so maybe they could have !!!
Westy said | March 26th 2009 @ 5:28pm | Report comment
Two leg spinners in the same side both quite precocious in their own ways might be trouble. O’Reilly was close at times to medium pace but I think Mcgrath ‘s unerring accuracy on flat decks in long spells tying up an end would be a godsend to any team. Any team including the best team ever must have an internal balance. Warne is the leg spinner O’Reilly’s place goes to Mcgrath. I also find it very difficult to exclude Gilchrist. Familiarity sometimes breeds contempt but he truly was the best all round keeper batsman this country has ever produced revolutionising the role of number 7. Just ask Ian healy.
No team can now adequately compete without a wicketkeeper who cannot bat very well.Notice SA Boucher powers as a batsman are beginning decline with age so to the SA tail in the home series.
To leave out Gilchrist is to leave out a batsman who single handedly turned the tide of more tests than I care to remember.
Without the ruthless efficiency of Bradman he simply broke some teams hearts at No 7.
Unlike Boycott many of Gilchrist’s innings were about the team and its position not his average. He shares that trait with the mighty Keith miller.
Justin said | March 26th 2009 @ 6:55pm | Report comment
This is tough and luckily the game has some flexibility with regard to where some batsmen can slot in.
The must haves in my opinion are Bradman, Ponting (the best since the Don?) Chappell, Warne, Gilchrist (wins too many matches on his own), Lillee, McGrath.
So my team
Hayden
Ponsford
Bradman
Ponting
Chappell
Miller
Gilchrist
Warne
Lindwall
Lillee
McGrath
Border 12th
One thing I will say is that while Waugh was a terrific batsmen Ponting slaughters him for a couple of reasons. One he bats 3 for 90 % of career and Waugh sat at 5 or 6 mostly (another reason I have Border in the 12 ahead of Waugh), is more aggressive and bats for the team also. I thought Waugh too often looked after his wicket when the team should have come first particularly when he played most of his career in a strong side.
sheek said | March 26th 2009 @ 10:15pm | Report comment
Was out for dinner tonight with a couple of ex school buddies. One mentioned going to a luncheon where Bill Lawry was the guest speaker. Although Lawry was a stodgy batsman, he is apparently a very engaging personality.
Anyway, one comment attributed to Lawry was that Hayden wasn’t anywhere as good a batsman as Jimmy Burke, who opened in the late 50s. We were all surprised with this comment, but apparently Lawry backed this up by saying batsmen pre 1977 didn’t have the advantage of wearing helmets & mega protection.
So this throws an extra dimension into the mix when contemplating the different values of players. And of course, pre WW2 players had to contend with uncovered pitches, so nothing is quite as it seems.
For a sport that is supposed to help us with so many averages to fall back on, often it only helps to confuse us even more!