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		<title>By: Chop</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/03/31/big-mac-down-but-not-out/comment-page-2/#comment-133663</link>
		<dc:creator>Chop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 05:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like the Brumbies, Rugby and Australia lost one of the good guys. You can&#039;t help but stop and think about the family and friends he has left behind by departing this Earth way to early. 

My condolences to all who knew him as a team mate, family member of just a good mate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like the Brumbies, Rugby and Australia lost one of the good guys. You can&#8217;t help but stop and think about the family and friends he has left behind by departing this Earth way to early. </p>
<p>My condolences to all who knew him as a team mate, family member of just a good mate.</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 04:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will be dedicating this season to not being a sapper in memory of Shawn Mackay. This is seriously sad news.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will be dedicating this season to not being a sapper in memory of Shawn Mackay. This is seriously sad news.</p>
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		<title>By: Roger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rest in peace Macca.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rest in peace Macca.</p>
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		<title>By: Worlds Biggest</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/03/31/big-mac-down-but-not-out/comment-page-2/#comment-133587</link>
		<dc:creator>Worlds Biggest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just read the tragic news of Shawn&#039;s passing. Just a terrible loss for his family, friends and the Rugby community. He sounded like a champion. Thoughts and prayers go out to all his family and friends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just read the tragic news of Shawn&#8217;s passing. Just a terrible loss for his family, friends and the Rugby community. He sounded like a champion. Thoughts and prayers go out to all his family and friends.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Logan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 02:43:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The worst possible news confirmed this morning.....the below from Fox Sports...


Brumbies lock Shawn Mackay dies in Durban hospital

April 06, 2009 Brumbies Super 14 rugby player Shawn Mackay has died in a Durban hospital.

Mackay, 26, died at about 11am EST, having suffered a cardiac arrest, a Brumbies spokesman said. 

He had been in hospital, critically ill with multiple injuries, since the early hours of March 29 when he was hit by an armed response car in a Durban street. 

He had shown some positive signs after being brought out of a medically induced coma late last week and underwent surgery. 

&quot;After his surgery Shawn contracted an infection in his bloodstream,&quot; said Brumbies chief executive Andrew Fagan. 

&quot;He deteriorated rapidly and suffered a cardiac arrest from which he didn&#039;t recover.&quot; 

More to come.

AAP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The worst possible news confirmed this morning&#8230;..the below from Fox Sports&#8230;</p>
<p>Brumbies lock Shawn Mackay dies in Durban hospital</p>
<p>April 06, 2009 Brumbies Super 14 rugby player Shawn Mackay has died in a Durban hospital.</p>
<p>Mackay, 26, died at about 11am EST, having suffered a cardiac arrest, a Brumbies spokesman said. </p>
<p>He had been in hospital, critically ill with multiple injuries, since the early hours of March 29 when he was hit by an armed response car in a Durban street. </p>
<p>He had shown some positive signs after being brought out of a medically induced coma late last week and underwent surgery. </p>
<p>&#8220;After his surgery Shawn contracted an infection in his bloodstream,&#8221; said Brumbies chief executive Andrew Fagan. </p>
<p>&#8220;He deteriorated rapidly and suffered a cardiac arrest from which he didn&#8217;t recover.&#8221; </p>
<p>More to come.</p>
<p>AAP</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/03/31/big-mac-down-but-not-out/comment-page-2/#comment-132213</link>
		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 22:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliant article Loges. Thanks for the insight into this obviously special bloke. Pray he is okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliant article Loges. Thanks for the insight into this obviously special bloke. Pray he is okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Cutter</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/03/31/big-mac-down-but-not-out/comment-page-2/#comment-132137</link>
		<dc:creator>Cutter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 17:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He sounds like one of those blokes that there arent enough of. Lets hope he recovers to be an example again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He sounds like one of those blokes that there arent enough of. Lets hope he recovers to be an example again.</p>
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		<title>By: Jameswm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jameswm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 23:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m too upset by the whole incident to write anything meaningful, and I didn&#039;t even know the guy other than watching him on TV.  It&#039;s obviously horrible for those who know him and all I can do is hope, like everyone else, he can make as close to a full recovery as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m too upset by the whole incident to write anything meaningful, and I didn&#8217;t even know the guy other than watching him on TV.  It&#8217;s obviously horrible for those who know him and all I can do is hope, like everyone else, he can make as close to a full recovery as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 09:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen.</description>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 01:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A really nice article Andrew, and great also to read Billy Millard&#039;s words in support.

I certainly wish Shawn all the best for a full and speedy recovery, and I&#039;m quite sure the Brumbies will miss not just his on-field impact, but after reading these words, his off-field presence as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A really nice article Andrew, and great also to read Billy Millard&#8217;s words in support.</p>
<p>I certainly wish Shawn all the best for a full and speedy recovery, and I&#8217;m quite sure the Brumbies will miss not just his on-field impact, but after reading these words, his off-field presence as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Worlds Biggest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worlds Biggest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thoughts and prayers for his family and fingers crossed he makes a full recovery. Sounds like he doesn&#039;t know how to quit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thoughts and prayers for his family and fingers crossed he makes a full recovery. Sounds like he doesn&#8217;t know how to quit.</p>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice one Loges.....fingers crossed for a full recovery

Robbie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice one Loges&#8230;..fingers crossed for a full recovery</p>
<p>Robbie</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Logan</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/03/31/big-mac-down-but-not-out/comment-page-1/#comment-131509</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Logan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sheek,

Unfortunately the never-ending flow of incidents with footballers leaves us with little sympathy when something does happen. When players are at home, then I think there is a little less scope for them to be out and about.

But unless you have been on tour for a couple of weeks with a professional sporting team, you don&#039;t really understand how stifling that environment can become. Part of being a good coaching/management team, is knowing when to let the team off the leash so that they can get some down time and just enjoy being overseas in a new place, and meeting the locals. 

The thing to remember is, if it was an afternoon game which finished at 5pm, and the players went out for 4 hours from 8 o&#039;clock until midnight, no-one would even think twice about it. Unfortunately the timing doesn&#039;t allow the players to get out much before midnight - and if they don&#039;t take that opportunity, there may not be another one on that tour.

Touring is fun in parts, but stifling at times, and for the majority of the time, it&#039;s just plain hard work. Clearly the Brumbies made every effort to ensure the players were safe. They all went to the one place so that players weren&#039;t wandering around town late at night, and organised a hotel bus to pick them all up at the same time.

All in all, just terribly unfortunate. But as Billy Millard says above Macca just doesn&#039;t know how to quit. If anyone can pull through, he can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sheek,</p>
<p>Unfortunately the never-ending flow of incidents with footballers leaves us with little sympathy when something does happen. When players are at home, then I think there is a little less scope for them to be out and about.</p>
<p>But unless you have been on tour for a couple of weeks with a professional sporting team, you don&#8217;t really understand how stifling that environment can become. Part of being a good coaching/management team, is knowing when to let the team off the leash so that they can get some down time and just enjoy being overseas in a new place, and meeting the locals. </p>
<p>The thing to remember is, if it was an afternoon game which finished at 5pm, and the players went out for 4 hours from 8 o&#8217;clock until midnight, no-one would even think twice about it. Unfortunately the timing doesn&#8217;t allow the players to get out much before midnight &#8211; and if they don&#8217;t take that opportunity, there may not be another one on that tour.</p>
<p>Touring is fun in parts, but stifling at times, and for the majority of the time, it&#8217;s just plain hard work. Clearly the Brumbies made every effort to ensure the players were safe. They all went to the one place so that players weren&#8217;t wandering around town late at night, and organised a hotel bus to pick them all up at the same time.</p>
<p>All in all, just terribly unfortunate. But as Billy Millard says above Macca just doesn&#8217;t know how to quit. If anyone can pull through, he can.</p>
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		<title>By: sheek</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW,

A huge commendation to the du Plessis brothers - Jannie &amp; Bismarck, who apparently were quickly on the scene &amp; assisted. As someone involved in the emergency game, I understand how quick &amp; correct intervention can make a huge difference, especially in potential spinal situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW,</p>
<p>A huge commendation to the du Plessis brothers &#8211; Jannie &amp; Bismarck, who apparently were quickly on the scene &amp; assisted. As someone involved in the emergency game, I understand how quick &amp; correct intervention can make a huge difference, especially in potential spinal situations.</p>
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		<title>By: sheek</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:01:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew,

Thank you for explaining why they might still be out &amp; about at 4am. Among my first thoughts were - okay, you can get run over at any time of the day &amp; night. But what were Brumbies players doing out &amp; about at 4am, in-season?

You&#039;ve described that. And apparently there was no skylarking, &amp; they were reasonably sober. I guess it was just shocking bad luck. My brother was bowled over by a stolen car while halfway across a pedestrian crossing in broad afternoon daylight. He had a few drinks but was otherwise fine.

He was lucky, suffering a broken leg &amp; a limp for a while but he made a full recovery. Maybe arthritis will bedevil his leg in old age, but otherwise he&#039;s fine. So accidents do happen. Hopefully, Shawn Mackay will make a full recovery to lead a normal life.

A workmate knows his father &amp; speaks highly of the family. We can only trust he will make a full recovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew,</p>
<p>Thank you for explaining why they might still be out &amp; about at 4am. Among my first thoughts were &#8211; okay, you can get run over at any time of the day &amp; night. But what were Brumbies players doing out &amp; about at 4am, in-season?</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve described that. And apparently there was no skylarking, &amp; they were reasonably sober. I guess it was just shocking bad luck. My brother was bowled over by a stolen car while halfway across a pedestrian crossing in broad afternoon daylight. He had a few drinks but was otherwise fine.</p>
<p>He was lucky, suffering a broken leg &amp; a limp for a while but he made a full recovery. Maybe arthritis will bedevil his leg in old age, but otherwise he&#8217;s fine. So accidents do happen. Hopefully, Shawn Mackay will make a full recovery to lead a normal life.</p>
<p>A workmate knows his father &amp; speaks highly of the family. We can only trust he will make a full recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Millard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Millard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Loges - I have never responded to anything on these types of sites but feel an urge to say a few things.  Its very frustrating sitting here in Wales - not being able to do anything.

I was Head Coach of the Australian Sevens Team for 4 years and Macca was my Captain for most of those years. We went through some tough times together away from home and I got to know him on and off the field. A coaches delight!!

He was then the first player picked when I coached the Melbourne Rebels in the ARC. At that stage he had a nasty ankle/knee injury and was not expected to play in the ARC at all - it was a risky recruited move and if it was any other player - I wld not have even thought about it.. Mac worked so hard to get it right with our conditioners and medical staff and ended up playing a big role in our last 4 games.

Loges - you described the big man well in your article. I have seen him push his body to limits most guys would not know about - many many times. Once in LA - he was vomiting blood at 1/2 time and was officially gone after 2 big days (as we never subbed him) and NZ were 3 or 4 tries up - we had a young team and had run out of gas. Medical staff advised me to get Macca off - so I told him he was being replaced. He took me to one side and said - &quot;dont even think abt it Billy - Im going to get into these Kiwis - we can f........win this!!&quot;. He then got the boys into a huddle and laid down the law. He went out and played the whole 2nd half and lead a great fight back - but we fell short. We literally carried Macca back into to the sheds.

God bless you big fella and I know you will fight hard and pull thru this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Loges &#8211; I have never responded to anything on these types of sites but feel an urge to say a few things.  Its very frustrating sitting here in Wales &#8211; not being able to do anything.</p>
<p>I was Head Coach of the Australian Sevens Team for 4 years and Macca was my Captain for most of those years. We went through some tough times together away from home and I got to know him on and off the field. A coaches delight!!</p>
<p>He was then the first player picked when I coached the Melbourne Rebels in the ARC. At that stage he had a nasty ankle/knee injury and was not expected to play in the ARC at all &#8211; it was a risky recruited move and if it was any other player &#8211; I wld not have even thought about it.. Mac worked so hard to get it right with our conditioners and medical staff and ended up playing a big role in our last 4 games.</p>
<p>Loges &#8211; you described the big man well in your article. I have seen him push his body to limits most guys would not know about &#8211; many many times. Once in LA &#8211; he was vomiting blood at 1/2 time and was officially gone after 2 big days (as we never subbed him) and NZ were 3 or 4 tries up &#8211; we had a young team and had run out of gas. Medical staff advised me to get Macca off &#8211; so I told him he was being replaced. He took me to one side and said &#8211; &#8220;dont even think abt it Billy &#8211; Im going to get into these Kiwis &#8211; we can f&#8230;&#8230;..win this!!&#8221;. He then got the boys into a huddle and laid down the law. He went out and played the whole 2nd half and lead a great fight back &#8211; but we fell short. We literally carried Macca back into to the sheds.</p>
<p>God bless you big fella and I know you will fight hard and pull thru this.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very sad news... All the best to Macca and his family on the long road to recovery.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very sad news&#8230; All the best to Macca and his family on the long road to recovery.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They say that sport comes down to inches, well then so does life. Best wishes from Beckenham RFC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say that sport comes down to inches, well then so does life. Best wishes from Beckenham RFC.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
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		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 21:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know Macca any more than just watching him play his rugby.  I believe that you can tell much about a man by how he performs on the field, under fire and pressure.

By my observation, he is exactly as you describe.  A team man, perpetual motion and giver on and off the field.  Lets hope he makes a full and rapid recovery.

I thought it an indicative sign of the regard in which he is held by his teammates that they chose to remain in Durban this week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know Macca any more than just watching him play his rugby.  I believe that you can tell much about a man by how he performs on the field, under fire and pressure.</p>
<p>By my observation, he is exactly as you describe.  A team man, perpetual motion and giver on and off the field.  Lets hope he makes a full and rapid recovery.</p>
<p>I thought it an indicative sign of the regard in which he is held by his teammates that they chose to remain in Durban this week.</p>
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