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		<title>By: Davidde Corran</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/03/womens-football-back-in-business/comment-page-2/#comment-224311</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidde Corran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very good question True Tah and one I don&#039;t have the answer to.

Brazil is notorious for how women footballers are treated. The fact that the nation produced someone as wonderfully talented as Marta is all but a miracle. The trials and tribulations she went through just to be able to play football are phenomenal.

Scandanavia does have very strong leagues but they are semi-professional. The difference between that part of the world and the US is size and economic viability of the leagues. There is the financial scope for a women&#039;s league to be successful in America that possibly there isn&#039;t anywhere else. Though it&#039;s worth noting that Tonya Antonucci, the head of the WPS in America, stated before the league&#039;s launch nearly 12 months ago that they wouldn&#039;t have put the WPS together had they known that the Global financial crisis was on its way.

Perceptions and attitudes towards women&#039;s sport is also key right across the globe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very good question True Tah and one I don&#8217;t have the answer to.</p>
<p>Brazil is notorious for how women footballers are treated. The fact that the nation produced someone as wonderfully talented as Marta is all but a miracle. The trials and tribulations she went through just to be able to play football are phenomenal.</p>
<p>Scandanavia does have very strong leagues but they are semi-professional. The difference between that part of the world and the US is size and economic viability of the leagues. There is the financial scope for a women&#8217;s league to be successful in America that possibly there isn&#8217;t anywhere else. Though it&#8217;s worth noting that Tonya Antonucci, the head of the WPS in America, stated before the league&#8217;s launch nearly 12 months ago that they wouldn&#8217;t have put the WPS together had they known that the Global financial crisis was on its way.</p>
<p>Perceptions and attitudes towards women&#8217;s sport is also key right across the globe.</p>
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		<title>By: True Tah</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Tah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:29:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont understand why the USA has got the pre-eminent women&#039;s futbol competition in the world.

Why havent places like Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, Italy, Argentina, Brazil or even England got anything better than this?  After all in these places, futbol is pretty much the only sport worth mentioning and in the USA, futbol is simply a part of a wider sporting diet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont understand why the USA has got the pre-eminent women&#8217;s futbol competition in the world.</p>
<p>Why havent places like Germany, Austria, the Netherlands, Italy, Argentina, Brazil or even England got anything better than this?  After all in these places, futbol is pretty much the only sport worth mentioning and in the USA, futbol is simply a part of a wider sporting diet.</p>
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		<title>By: TheWomensGame</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheWomensGame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 23:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiro, I completely agree.  Even this &quot;militant feminist&quot; can agree that boxing is the only sport that women probably shouldn&#039;t go near.  I think when you look at women&#039;s sport it should not always be in comparison with men&#039;s sport.  It&#039;s like comparing the A-League with the EPL.  It will always come out lacking but when you examine it in its own right, it can be pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiro, I completely agree.  Even this &#8220;militant feminist&#8221; can agree that boxing is the only sport that women probably shouldn&#8217;t go near.  I think when you look at women&#8217;s sport it should not always be in comparison with men&#8217;s sport.  It&#8217;s like comparing the A-League with the EPL.  It will always come out lacking but when you examine it in its own right, it can be pretty good.</p>
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		<title>By: Sal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 05:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great to see someone finally covering women&#039;s football!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great to see someone finally covering women&#8217;s football!</p>
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		<title>By: Davidde Corran</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/03/womens-football-back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-132782</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidde Corran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 04:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nam Turk you&#039;re right. The WPS has set much more modest goals then the WUSA and therefore set itself up accordingly.

The problem with the lack of professionalism around  women&#039;s football is that it prevents the game from developing on both a tactical and technical level.

The upside to that though is that there&#039;s more space between the lines in women&#039;s football. That means there&#039;s still a place for your &#039;foot on the ball&#039; type players. That&#039;s a good thing in my books.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nam Turk you&#8217;re right. The WPS has set much more modest goals then the WUSA and therefore set itself up accordingly.</p>
<p>The problem with the lack of professionalism around  women&#8217;s football is that it prevents the game from developing on both a tactical and technical level.</p>
<p>The upside to that though is that there&#8217;s more space between the lines in women&#8217;s football. That means there&#8217;s still a place for your &#8216;foot on the ball&#8217; type players. That&#8217;s a good thing in my books.</p>
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		<title>By: Nam Turk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nam Turk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 02:20:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, we had the WUSA competition almost a decade ago, but it collapsed under a poor business model. Now they&#039;ve learned and regrouped to try once again. The dormant period is not quite as dramatic as you make it sound. The women have played along with the men for as long as soccer&#039;s been blossoming in North America. People sometimes denounce the limitations of gender equality measures in athletics (Title IX) but this sport shows the real success of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we had the WUSA competition almost a decade ago, but it collapsed under a poor business model. Now they&#8217;ve learned and regrouped to try once again. The dormant period is not quite as dramatic as you make it sound. The women have played along with the men for as long as soccer&#8217;s been blossoming in North America. People sometimes denounce the limitations of gender equality measures in athletics (Title IX) but this sport shows the real success of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Eamonn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eamonn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And Lydia Williams makes five Davidde...she&#039;s playing in Chicago.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And Lydia Williams makes five Davidde&#8230;she&#8217;s playing in Chicago.</p>
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		<title>By: Davidde Corran</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/03/womens-football-back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-132625</link>
		<dc:creator>Davidde Corran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately the WNBA hemorrhages money.

It is entirely subsidised by the NBA and the mens club chiefs aren&#039;t happy about that.

They have recently cut the roster size down and the mens salary cap is over 50 times that of the womens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately the WNBA hemorrhages money.</p>
<p>It is entirely subsidised by the NBA and the mens club chiefs aren&#8217;t happy about that.</p>
<p>They have recently cut the roster size down and the mens salary cap is over 50 times that of the womens.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/03/womens-football-back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-132618</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 23:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brett -

yeah, I think so - - there&#039;s certainly &#039;professional&#039; and then &quot;PROfessional&quot;.

btw - that photo for this article is my least admired element of soccer - - multiple heads all vying to hit the same ball at about the same time at about the same point in space.............no thanx..........I&#039;d take my chances in the boxing ring!!! (with reference to Spiro&#039;s point on the &#039;sweet science&#039;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brett -</p>
<p>yeah, I think so &#8211; - there&#8217;s certainly &#8216;professional&#8217; and then &#8220;PROfessional&#8221;.</p>
<p>btw &#8211; that photo for this article is my least admired element of soccer &#8211; - multiple heads all vying to hit the same ball at about the same time at about the same point in space&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.no thanx&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.I&#8217;d take my chances in the boxing ring!!! (with reference to Spiro&#8217;s point on the &#8216;sweet science&#8217;)</p>
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		<title>By: Brett McKay</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/03/womens-football-back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-132596</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett McKay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 22:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>actually that&#039;s a point, isn&#039;t the WNBA fully professional??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>actually that&#8217;s a point, isn&#8217;t the WNBA fully professional??</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/03/womens-football-back-in-business/comment-page-1/#comment-132589</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>remember the consternation for the Swiss runner (?) in the &#039;84 womens marathon.  

Noting that the Rugby codes and Aust Footy in Australia have traditionally had stuff all female focus and participation - especially beyond age 14-15. 

This has been changing gradually.  Although many women have stuck with the touch/recreational variants.

Interesting to see the push for RU in the Olympics and the need to prove female participation.  Thus far - - this should be a very, very tough thing to do.  

The main issue now is around professionalism and sustainable incomes.  We see enough of the segregated competition benchmarking mens vs womens re tennis especially, also golf.  On other levels, via cricket, soccer and netball - professional wages are at the lower end and very much under par with male counterparts.  For good reason obviously.  It&#039;s the capacity to develop and grow the market, the interest and the coverage that will dictate the long term sustainability of professional womens leagues of any sport.

This has been where, from the team sport perspective - the WNBA in the US has been perhaps a world leader in more recent times of providing pretty good coverage, competition and pay packets and Australia&#039;s Penny Taylor and Lauren Jackson have benefitted grandly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>remember the consternation for the Swiss runner (?) in the &#8217;84 womens marathon.  </p>
<p>Noting that the Rugby codes and Aust Footy in Australia have traditionally had stuff all female focus and participation &#8211; especially beyond age 14-15. </p>
<p>This has been changing gradually.  Although many women have stuck with the touch/recreational variants.</p>
<p>Interesting to see the push for RU in the Olympics and the need to prove female participation.  Thus far &#8211; - this should be a very, very tough thing to do.  </p>
<p>The main issue now is around professionalism and sustainable incomes.  We see enough of the segregated competition benchmarking mens vs womens re tennis especially, also golf.  On other levels, via cricket, soccer and netball &#8211; professional wages are at the lower end and very much under par with male counterparts.  For good reason obviously.  It&#8217;s the capacity to develop and grow the market, the interest and the coverage that will dictate the long term sustainability of professional womens leagues of any sport.</p>
<p>This has been where, from the team sport perspective &#8211; the WNBA in the US has been perhaps a world leader in more recent times of providing pretty good coverage, competition and pay packets and Australia&#8217;s Penny Taylor and Lauren Jackson have benefitted grandly.</p>
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		<title>By: Spiro Zavos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spiro Zavos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 21:42:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This question of a hard sport being suitable for women athletes, I believe, has been answered more than adequately in the last two decades. I would draw the line at boxing as it is the only sport I know where the object of the sport is to physically damage your opponent. The sweet science it is not. Women are not built to engage in a sport where the object is to damage part of the anatomy. But the other sports, including body contact sports, female athletes have shown that they can do well and enjoy the contest, and give the spectators a contest worth watching. 
The Olympics had a &#039;suitabbility&#039; rule up to 30 years ago that the longest distance they could run was 400m. Now they participating in marathons which makes a mockery of the &#039;weaker&#039; species argument. 
I always like Dr Johnson&#039;s answer to a question from Boswell in these matters.
&#039;Sir, who is superior, a man or a woman?&#039;
Dr Johnson: &#039;What man? What woman?&#039;
Good luck to the women&#039;s football competitionss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This question of a hard sport being suitable for women athletes, I believe, has been answered more than adequately in the last two decades. I would draw the line at boxing as it is the only sport I know where the object of the sport is to physically damage your opponent. The sweet science it is not. Women are not built to engage in a sport where the object is to damage part of the anatomy. But the other sports, including body contact sports, female athletes have shown that they can do well and enjoy the contest, and give the spectators a contest worth watching.<br />
The Olympics had a &#8216;suitabbility&#8217; rule up to 30 years ago that the longest distance they could run was 400m. Now they participating in marathons which makes a mockery of the &#8216;weaker&#8217; species argument.<br />
I always like Dr Johnson&#8217;s answer to a question from Boswell in these matters.<br />
&#8216;Sir, who is superior, a man or a woman?&#8217;<br />
Dr Johnson: &#8216;What man? What woman?&#8217;<br />
Good luck to the women&#8217;s football competitionss.</p>
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