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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-3/#comment-137442</link>
		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 13:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It ended up being a good weekend for the NZ sides. 

Interesting news about Carter&#039;s long rumoured move to the Blues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It ended up being a good weekend for the NZ sides. </p>
<p>Interesting news about Carter&#8217;s long rumoured move to the Blues.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a hideously monotone game. The atmosphere was nonexistant. I&#039;m quite upset that I&#039;ve lost an hour and a half of my life that I&#039;ll never get back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a hideously monotone game. The atmosphere was nonexistant. I&#8217;m quite upset that I&#8217;ve lost an hour and a half of my life that I&#8217;ll never get back.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 11:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Waratahs? GOOOOOOOOONE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Waratahs? GOOOOOOOOONE.</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
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		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Blues&#039; defence is starting to improve and so is their forward play. If they&#039;d just play a little smarter with the ball in hand they could be dangerous. Maybe not this year, but in the next few seasons. Especially if they get a new pivot. 

Congrats to the Brumbies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Blues&#8217; defence is starting to improve and so is their forward play. If they&#8217;d just play a little smarter with the ball in hand they could be dangerous. Maybe not this year, but in the next few seasons. Especially if they get a new pivot. </p>
<p>Congrats to the Brumbies.</p>
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		<title>By: Brendo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brendo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu - I don&#039;t know the actual statistics but I would think the Waratahs track record on the road is better in South Africa than compared to in New Zealand and against the other Australian teams. They often went to SA early in this decade at the start of the season and picked up maximum points or close to.

The Waratahs will win on Saturday night against the Force, the big loss to the Bulls will be the reality check they needed. Only an inspired Matt Giteau can prevent a 10 to 15 point winning margin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu &#8211; I don&#8217;t know the actual statistics but I would think the Waratahs track record on the road is better in South Africa than compared to in New Zealand and against the other Australian teams. They often went to SA early in this decade at the start of the season and picked up maximum points or close to.</p>
<p>The Waratahs will win on Saturday night against the Force, the big loss to the Bulls will be the reality check they needed. Only an inspired Matt Giteau can prevent a 10 to 15 point winning margin.</p>
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		<title>By: Stu James</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the Waratahs don&#039;t win against the Force, then they won&#039;t make the finals. Firstly, they still have their bye ahead. Secondly, they don&#039;t have a good record in South Africa, and thirdly they will need to play good rugby to beat the Force - if they don&#039;t finally produce then the form they have shown all season show&#039;s their capabilities for the weeks ahead and all any optimistic talk of their &quot;potential&quot; must be totally disregarded.

It&#039;s a pity the Force didn&#039;t get the win last weekend, and it&#039;s a pity that they don&#039;t have a front row (note the two are linked because the Force lost a crucial scrum with 4 minutes to go when the Canes wheeled them). In my view they are the only Aussie side capable of pushing for a semi spot and winning a semi.

It&#039;s a weird season when you&#039;re a New South Welshman and would prefer to watch the Reds, Force and Brumbies...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the Waratahs don&#8217;t win against the Force, then they won&#8217;t make the finals. Firstly, they still have their bye ahead. Secondly, they don&#8217;t have a good record in South Africa, and thirdly they will need to play good rugby to beat the Force &#8211; if they don&#8217;t finally produce then the form they have shown all season show&#8217;s their capabilities for the weeks ahead and all any optimistic talk of their &#8220;potential&#8221; must be totally disregarded.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a pity the Force didn&#8217;t get the win last weekend, and it&#8217;s a pity that they don&#8217;t have a front row (note the two are linked because the Force lost a crucial scrum with 4 minutes to go when the Canes wheeled them). In my view they are the only Aussie side capable of pushing for a semi spot and winning a semi.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a weird season when you&#8217;re a New South Welshman and would prefer to watch the Reds, Force and Brumbies&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Guy Smiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guy Smiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 10:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James I am a little shocked to hear you say timekeeping is a moot point - I was at that Force game and got a text from my old man in Ireland straight after saying the clock had stopped twice. Yes the mentality and tactics of the Force were suspect but had the clock been attended to properly they would have most likely won the game. Whoever deserved to win is irrelevant, the clock would have beaten the Canes in the end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James I am a little shocked to hear you say timekeeping is a moot point &#8211; I was at that Force game and got a text from my old man in Ireland straight after saying the clock had stopped twice. Yes the mentality and tactics of the Force were suspect but had the clock been attended to properly they would have most likely won the game. Whoever deserved to win is irrelevant, the clock would have beaten the Canes in the end.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
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		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 09:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harry

Can you define what you mean by holding its own.... that sounds to me like last year we had X &amp; this year we still have X... meaning going backwards as I see it.

Southern Queensland &amp; Northern NSW is the fastest growing area in Australia. Further it is one of the nations wealthiest parts. 

The story I hear is the exact opposite from what you hear ... my sources are local Sydney park rugby players and administrators... anyway what they tell me is in the growth areas of Queensland RU does not present itself but RL/ Football &amp; AFL are all pushing hard for parks / juniors / support...  

They tell me if you measured the number of Queensland Players 15 years ago and then added on the general population growth RU comes a long way short of holding its own... but in established areas they are reasonably fine..

What my park people tell me is that with the Cowboys / Titians / Brisbane Roar/ Gold Coat United / Queensland Fury / New AFL team on the GC / plus at least 1 new RL team within four years years / Plus the appointment of Voss (local boy)  to a excellently lead Brisbane Lions, means the Reds are up against it and receive little help from the ARU ... hey all this may just be sideline beer talk for all I know but I find it hard to sit down and share a beer with some rusted on hard call RU folk and think they are telling me rubbish... where there is smoke there is fire ... A gentle giant of a break away nick named Killer (45 years) told me in his opinion all the other teams I have mentioned above are better run than the Reds ... again no idea but Westy makes some real sense in what he says.

MT your post when you said ...&quot;&quot;&quot; dark forces south of the border seduced the qld power brokers and it goes on to this day...&quot;&quot;&quot; pay tell provide more .. it&#039; too teasing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry</p>
<p>Can you define what you mean by holding its own&#8230;. that sounds to me like last year we had X &amp; this year we still have X&#8230; meaning going backwards as I see it.</p>
<p>Southern Queensland &amp; Northern NSW is the fastest growing area in Australia. Further it is one of the nations wealthiest parts. </p>
<p>The story I hear is the exact opposite from what you hear &#8230; my sources are local Sydney park rugby players and administrators&#8230; anyway what they tell me is in the growth areas of Queensland RU does not present itself but RL/ Football &amp; AFL are all pushing hard for parks / juniors / support&#8230;  </p>
<p>They tell me if you measured the number of Queensland Players 15 years ago and then added on the general population growth RU comes a long way short of holding its own&#8230; but in established areas they are reasonably fine..</p>
<p>What my park people tell me is that with the Cowboys / Titians / Brisbane Roar/ Gold Coat United / Queensland Fury / New AFL team on the GC / plus at least 1 new RL team within four years years / Plus the appointment of Voss (local boy)  to a excellently lead Brisbane Lions, means the Reds are up against it and receive little help from the ARU &#8230; hey all this may just be sideline beer talk for all I know but I find it hard to sit down and share a beer with some rusted on hard call RU folk and think they are telling me rubbish&#8230; where there is smoke there is fire &#8230; A gentle giant of a break away nick named Killer (45 years) told me in his opinion all the other teams I have mentioned above are better run than the Reds &#8230; again no idea but Westy makes some real sense in what he says.</p>
<p>MT your post when you said &#8230;&#8221;"&#8221; dark forces south of the border seduced the qld power brokers and it goes on to this day&#8230;&#8221;"&#8221; pay tell provide more .. it&#8217; too teasing.</p>
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		<title>By: Harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 07:51:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westy there is no doubt that the competition between codes in Qld is fierce.  That said I&#039;m told by pretty good sources that at junior level and the clubs it is holding its own.  Though the war for special talent is incredibly hot, with AFL claiming the winger from last years Australian schoolboys - who went to (renowned rugby nursury) Nudgee of all places!  And of course the Broncos have a great talent identification system and the Gold Coast and Melbourne in particualr hoover up Qld talent from union.
 
In a perverse way it shows the strength of the code in Queensland that it is still churning out the talent and has good roots despite the incredibly disappoinitng performance of the Reds this millenium. 

Rather like Australian crickets mid-80&#039;s slump post the Chappells, Marsh and Lillee was extended by 3 or 4 years longer than it should have been when the SA rebel tour took out a good chunk of talent and experience, so the Force continue to ensure Qld bounces along the bottom with no depth - just look at young Qld nurtured players Pocock, Brown, O&#039;Conner, Mitchell and Hockings - all of whom I&#039;m sure would make the current Qld 22.

As you say Westy, its no joy being a Queensland supporter these last 5 years.  I posted on what happens in a typical Reds season last weekend and yes, its not pleasant and it doesn&#039;t look like getting better.   On day though it will!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westy there is no doubt that the competition between codes in Qld is fierce.  That said I&#8217;m told by pretty good sources that at junior level and the clubs it is holding its own.  Though the war for special talent is incredibly hot, with AFL claiming the winger from last years Australian schoolboys &#8211; who went to (renowned rugby nursury) Nudgee of all places!  And of course the Broncos have a great talent identification system and the Gold Coast and Melbourne in particualr hoover up Qld talent from union.</p>
<p>In a perverse way it shows the strength of the code in Queensland that it is still churning out the talent and has good roots despite the incredibly disappoinitng performance of the Reds this millenium. </p>
<p>Rather like Australian crickets mid-80&#8242;s slump post the Chappells, Marsh and Lillee was extended by 3 or 4 years longer than it should have been when the SA rebel tour took out a good chunk of talent and experience, so the Force continue to ensure Qld bounces along the bottom with no depth &#8211; just look at young Qld nurtured players Pocock, Brown, O&#8217;Conner, Mitchell and Hockings &#8211; all of whom I&#8217;m sure would make the current Qld 22.</p>
<p>As you say Westy, its no joy being a Queensland supporter these last 5 years.  I posted on what happens in a typical Reds season last weekend and yes, its not pleasant and it doesn&#8217;t look like getting better.   On day though it will!</p>
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		<title>By: mother teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mother teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 06:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yep mark,dark forces south of the border seduced the qld power brokers and it goes on to this day .just look at coaches/managers/reporters all got their hands in the trough mate.
and they know who they are</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yep mark,dark forces south of the border seduced the qld power brokers and it goes on to this day .just look at coaches/managers/reporters all got their hands in the trough mate.<br />
and they know who they are</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:29:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Westy &amp; MT - I&#039;m amazed at what&#039;s happened to the Reds. I can remember not bothering going to a Canterbury v Qld game in Brisbane during the early/mid 90&#039;s (&#039;93 I think) as the Reds team was 50% or more of the Wallabies &amp; Canterbury only had a couple of AB&#039;s. Qld won 40-4 or something like that, a real drubbing in those days.  What has happened to them in 15 yrs ? You can&#039;t keep blaming Brumbies then Force, or even league as it&#039;s always been there. There must be something going very wrong in the banana state for Qld/Reds to now be almost a push over !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Westy &amp; MT &#8211; I&#8217;m amazed at what&#8217;s happened to the Reds. I can remember not bothering going to a Canterbury v Qld game in Brisbane during the early/mid 90&#8242;s (&#8217;93 I think) as the Reds team was 50% or more of the Wallabies &amp; Canterbury only had a couple of AB&#8217;s. Qld won 40-4 or something like that, a real drubbing in those days.  What has happened to them in 15 yrs ? You can&#8217;t keep blaming Brumbies then Force, or even league as it&#8217;s always been there. There must be something going very wrong in the banana state for Qld/Reds to now be almost a push over !</p>
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		<title>By: mother teresa</title>
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		<dc:creator>mother teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:03:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>westy you make sound sense and its a tragedy that qlds strong catchment of young players has/is not been nurtured.would it be fair to say that too much influence south of the border has promoted the wrong people as coaches/managers etc for mutual benefits of those individuals and depleted the natural strength of the state which always offered a genuine difference in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>westy you make sound sense and its a tragedy that qlds strong catchment of young players has/is not been nurtured.would it be fair to say that too much influence south of the border has promoted the wrong people as coaches/managers etc for mutual benefits of those individuals and depleted the natural strength of the state which always offered a genuine difference in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: westy</title>
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		<dc:creator>westy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 04:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spiro I agree I believe the Reds will win at home. against the Lions. How many years is this now missing out on the semis for the Reds.?The second strongest catchment for rugby juniors in the country and its weakest franchise. We are a tad Tah centric on here. The plight of the Reds is not good for junior rugby in QLD, our Paytv ratings nor the game as a whole in Australia
Australian rugby needs a rising Red franchise. The longer it remains in the doldrums the more damage is being done to  a heartland that actually produces &quot;rugby players&quot;
5 years or more is too long for the second strongest ( and some old locals  would say strongest junior hearland in Australia) wallowing in failure for that is what it is. it damages the code in QLD and especially Brisbane and the Gold Coast. 
A successful Reds means more to Australian rugby than good year from Brumbies or Force or dare i say the new melbourne franchise. The Brumbies and Force do not add pay TV numbers. QLD do.They also add players.
When QLD rugby people I know start to joke about their beloved Reds you know they are in trouble. There continued failure spells real harm to rugby north of the border and to australian rugby. i do not think people realise the competition  in Brisbane they now face at a junior level not from league but football and AFL.
I fail to see how the plight of QLD rugby receives  so little attention when it is critical. Have we resigned ourselves to a hopeless franchise representing the second stongest rugby heartland in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spiro I agree I believe the Reds will win at home. against the Lions. How many years is this now missing out on the semis for the Reds.?The second strongest catchment for rugby juniors in the country and its weakest franchise. We are a tad Tah centric on here. The plight of the Reds is not good for junior rugby in QLD, our Paytv ratings nor the game as a whole in Australia<br />
Australian rugby needs a rising Red franchise. The longer it remains in the doldrums the more damage is being done to  a heartland that actually produces &#8220;rugby players&#8221;<br />
5 years or more is too long for the second strongest ( and some old locals  would say strongest junior hearland in Australia) wallowing in failure for that is what it is. it damages the code in QLD and especially Brisbane and the Gold Coast.<br />
A successful Reds means more to Australian rugby than good year from Brumbies or Force or dare i say the new melbourne franchise. The Brumbies and Force do not add pay TV numbers. QLD do.They also add players.<br />
When QLD rugby people I know start to joke about their beloved Reds you know they are in trouble. There continued failure spells real harm to rugby north of the border and to australian rugby. i do not think people realise the competition  in Brisbane they now face at a junior level not from league but football and AFL.<br />
I fail to see how the plight of QLD rugby receives  so little attention when it is critical. Have we resigned ourselves to a hopeless franchise representing the second stongest rugby heartland in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: James Mortimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Mortimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God, that&#039;s about the third time I&#039;ve heard reference to the Force/Canes timekeeping.  The reality is that the Force let two tries in four minutes against a team they had already beaten.  Timekeeping is a moot point.

As, realistically, is the referees.  No real point in lamenting what has or will happen out of our control.

Regarding the Canes, completely disagree about being rattled.  They actually have shown all this season, that they respond well to pressure, in 7 out of 8 games this season, they have dominated statistics, with the exception of lineouts.

Don&#039;t know if stupid rugby is quite the term, as much as - as Ieremia stated this week - lack of patience.  

But, I too am wondering about the coaching of Cooper.  

As for the Cheetahs game against the Sharks, why were so many people surprised.  With a bit of research, people could have found out that the Currie Cup Cheetahs (essentially the same team) were the last South African team to be the Sharks enroute to the Currie Cup premier title.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, that&#8217;s about the third time I&#8217;ve heard reference to the Force/Canes timekeeping.  The reality is that the Force let two tries in four minutes against a team they had already beaten.  Timekeeping is a moot point.</p>
<p>As, realistically, is the referees.  No real point in lamenting what has or will happen out of our control.</p>
<p>Regarding the Canes, completely disagree about being rattled.  They actually have shown all this season, that they respond well to pressure, in 7 out of 8 games this season, they have dominated statistics, with the exception of lineouts.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if stupid rugby is quite the term, as much as &#8211; as Ieremia stated this week &#8211; lack of patience.  </p>
<p>But, I too am wondering about the coaching of Cooper.  </p>
<p>As for the Cheetahs game against the Sharks, why were so many people surprised.  With a bit of research, people could have found out that the Currie Cup Cheetahs (essentially the same team) were the last South African team to be the Sharks enroute to the Currie Cup premier title.</p>
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		<title>By: PastHisBest</title>
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		<dc:creator>PastHisBest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:48:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;&gt;But then, they are at home and did score two tries against the Force in about three minutes to snatch an exciting victory for them.

Spiro, this is exactly whay the &#039;Canes will play like headless chooks this week and throw another game down the gurgler.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;&gt;But then, they are at home and did score two tries against the Force in about three minutes to snatch an exciting victory for them.</p>
<p>Spiro, this is exactly whay the &#8216;Canes will play like headless chooks this week and throw another game down the gurgler.</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136429</link>
		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hurricanes are the New Zealand version of the Waratahs. All they&#039;re missing are the scathing Roar articles. 

Having said that, they have an easier run to the semis than the Chiefs, Highlanders or Crusaders, who all have to play a South African leg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hurricanes are the New Zealand version of the Waratahs. All they&#8217;re missing are the scathing Roar articles. </p>
<p>Having said that, they have an easier run to the semis than the Chiefs, Highlanders or Crusaders, who all have to play a South African leg.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136426</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard on RadioSport NZ this morning that only two teams are unbeaten at home this season: the Sharks and the Bulls. Historically both of these teams are indeed very strong at home.

The Sharks are currently first on the table and have all 4 remaining matches at home, so one would be silly not to bet on them being &quot;minor premiers&quot;.

The Bulls, who are third on the table, play in Canberra this weekend and then have 3 matches at home, before travelling to Durban for their final round-robin match (a prelude of the final?). Especially if the Bulls can beat the Brumbies this weekend, one would really expect them to finish in the top 2. Yes, the Bulls will be without Bakkies Botha, but counterbalancing this is the highly fractured week the Brumbies will be having due to the funeral of Shawn Mackay in Sydney.

So there is a high likelihood of semi-finals being held in Durban and/or Pretoria. Of course it is very hard to see any Australasian team winning a semi-final in either of these venues.

So while I agree that it&#039;s an extremely tight competition this year, for me it is hard to see past either the Sharks or Bulls winning the title in a final played in South Africa.

Lastly, the Chiefs. They are without both of their dynamic wingers, Sivivatu and Masaga, and they have not won a match in South Africa since April 2005. Their match this weekend against the Cheetahs looked like a heaven-sent opportunity to reverse this trend, but last weekend&#039;s win by the Cheetahs changed all that. So to back the Chiefs to go far in this competition requires a big act of faith at this stage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard on RadioSport NZ this morning that only two teams are unbeaten at home this season: the Sharks and the Bulls. Historically both of these teams are indeed very strong at home.</p>
<p>The Sharks are currently first on the table and have all 4 remaining matches at home, so one would be silly not to bet on them being &#8220;minor premiers&#8221;.</p>
<p>The Bulls, who are third on the table, play in Canberra this weekend and then have 3 matches at home, before travelling to Durban for their final round-robin match (a prelude of the final?). Especially if the Bulls can beat the Brumbies this weekend, one would really expect them to finish in the top 2. Yes, the Bulls will be without Bakkies Botha, but counterbalancing this is the highly fractured week the Brumbies will be having due to the funeral of Shawn Mackay in Sydney.</p>
<p>So there is a high likelihood of semi-finals being held in Durban and/or Pretoria. Of course it is very hard to see any Australasian team winning a semi-final in either of these venues.</p>
<p>So while I agree that it&#8217;s an extremely tight competition this year, for me it is hard to see past either the Sharks or Bulls winning the title in a final played in South Africa.</p>
<p>Lastly, the Chiefs. They are without both of their dynamic wingers, Sivivatu and Masaga, and they have not won a match in South Africa since April 2005. Their match this weekend against the Cheetahs looked like a heaven-sent opportunity to reverse this trend, but last weekend&#8217;s win by the Cheetahs changed all that. So to back the Chiefs to go far in this competition requires a big act of faith at this stage.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Comment  on stupidity and the Hurricanes is very accurate. Has there ever been a team which has such volatility in its performance - both from game to game and within a game?  Well-balanced, well-drilled teams with sound defences and good set pieces are odds on to beat the Canes.  All they do is defend strongly, disrupt the Canes&#039; scrum and lineout, wait for the errors and then pounce on turnovers.  The lineout is particularly poor and an indictment on Colin Cooper&#039;s supposed strength as a forward coach.  Jason Eaton aspires to be an AB lock - but he cannot command the lineout as an aspiring world-class lock should, and lacks the bulk to make the grade in other respects.  The scrum is potent some weeks, and dire the next.  What is it with Tialata and Schwalger? Yet.. yet..because of the talent of Nonu, Jane, Weepu and So&#039;oialo, they might just make it. Nevertheless, they remain a poorly-drilled team that plays too much dumb footy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Comment  on stupidity and the Hurricanes is very accurate. Has there ever been a team which has such volatility in its performance &#8211; both from game to game and within a game?  Well-balanced, well-drilled teams with sound defences and good set pieces are odds on to beat the Canes.  All they do is defend strongly, disrupt the Canes&#8217; scrum and lineout, wait for the errors and then pounce on turnovers.  The lineout is particularly poor and an indictment on Colin Cooper&#8217;s supposed strength as a forward coach.  Jason Eaton aspires to be an AB lock &#8211; but he cannot command the lineout as an aspiring world-class lock should, and lacks the bulk to make the grade in other respects.  The scrum is potent some weeks, and dire the next.  What is it with Tialata and Schwalger? Yet.. yet..because of the talent of Nonu, Jane, Weepu and So&#8217;oialo, they might just make it. Nevertheless, they remain a poorly-drilled team that plays too much dumb footy.</p>
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		<title>By: Farmer</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136397</link>
		<dc:creator>Farmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 00:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would have to agree with your email correspondent Spiro. The clock stopped at 60.26 in the Western Force game and did not restart with play. It went on for at least 30-40 seconds before  it restarted. Similarly later in the game. There are also occasions in games ( incl at SFS in Waratahs games) when the ref calls time off, but the clock keeps ticking. the reaction time is slow.

At the time, given the  result of the Force game being determined after the bell, I wondered if the the sloppy timekeeping had cost the Force the game. 

Surely, someone is getting paid to do this job and if they concentrate, it should not be too hard to get it right. If the ref forgets to call time on, surely the clock should not just sit on hold. Similarly, the timekeeper should be concentrating to  turn the clock on when play is restarted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would have to agree with your email correspondent Spiro. The clock stopped at 60.26 in the Western Force game and did not restart with play. It went on for at least 30-40 seconds before  it restarted. Similarly later in the game. There are also occasions in games ( incl at SFS in Waratahs games) when the ref calls time off, but the clock keeps ticking. the reaction time is slow.</p>
<p>At the time, given the  result of the Force game being determined after the bell, I wondered if the the sloppy timekeeping had cost the Force the game. </p>
<p>Surely, someone is getting paid to do this job and if they concentrate, it should not be too hard to get it right. If the ref forgets to call time on, surely the clock should not just sit on hold. Similarly, the timekeeper should be concentrating to  turn the clock on when play is restarted.</p>
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		<title>By: Jerry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 23:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I know it&#039;s largely coincidence, but it seems like the Canes have almost always had an SA ref v an SA team and an Aussie ref v an Aussie team. The only neutral I can think of was Goddard in the Bulls game who showed his neutrality by buggering up the game for both teams.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I know it&#8217;s largely coincidence, but it seems like the Canes have almost always had an SA ref v an SA team and an Aussie ref v an Aussie team. The only neutral I can think of was Goddard in the Bulls game who showed his neutrality by buggering up the game for both teams.</p>
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		<title>By: young gun</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136347</link>
		<dc:creator>young gun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh thank god that kaplan isnt refereing an australian teams match</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh thank god that kaplan isnt refereing an australian teams match</p>
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		<title>By: young gun</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136344</link>
		<dc:creator>young gun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry 12 years old</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry 12 years old</p>
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		<title>By: young gun</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136342</link>
		<dc:creator>young gun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes i would have to agree but im 1 yeas old and play flyhalf or inside center and i&#039;d still play union over league</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes i would have to agree but im 1 yeas old and play flyhalf or inside center and i&#8217;d still play union over league</p>
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		<title>By: Spiro Zavos</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136338</link>
		<dc:creator>Spiro Zavos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The list of referees for the round has come in: Blues-Highlanders, Stu Dickinson (Aus): Brumbies - Bulls, Chris Pollock (NZ): Hurricanes - Stormers, Jonathan Kaplan (SA): Reds - Lions, Keith Brown (NZ): Waratahs - Western Force, James Leckie (Aus): Cheetahs-Chiefs, Nathan Pearce (Aus): Sharks-Crusaders, Mark Lawrence (SA)

Two of the leading NZ teams playing South African teams have South African referees.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The list of referees for the round has come in: Blues-Highlanders, Stu Dickinson (Aus): Brumbies &#8211; Bulls, Chris Pollock (NZ): Hurricanes &#8211; Stormers, Jonathan Kaplan (SA): Reds &#8211; Lions, Keith Brown (NZ): Waratahs &#8211; Western Force, James Leckie (Aus): Cheetahs-Chiefs, Nathan Pearce (Aus): Sharks-Crusaders, Mark Lawrence (SA)</p>
<p>Two of the leading NZ teams playing South African teams have South African referees.</p>
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		<title>By: LeftArmSpinner</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/04/16/its-super-14-crunch-time-but-for-which-teams/comment-page-1/#comment-136335</link>
		<dc:creator>LeftArmSpinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 22:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree fully, except that this is more important for the Tahs than &quot;important but not crucial&quot;.  As far as comp points go, I agree.  However, If things are as flawed as they seem to be at the Tahs, then losing this game will indicate that they have not been addressed.  It will drive another dagger through the team&#039;s confidence, further disillusion the supporters, allow others to poke more fun at the Tahs appalling playing tactics and damage the code&#039;s perception further in the heartland.  A elite young kid coming thro, having played both codes, will opt for league with this sort of PR.  I don&#039;t blame the kid.  They are right!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree fully, except that this is more important for the Tahs than &#8220;important but not crucial&#8221;.  As far as comp points go, I agree.  However, If things are as flawed as they seem to be at the Tahs, then losing this game will indicate that they have not been addressed.  It will drive another dagger through the team&#8217;s confidence, further disillusion the supporters, allow others to poke more fun at the Tahs appalling playing tactics and damage the code&#8217;s perception further in the heartland.  A elite young kid coming thro, having played both codes, will opt for league with this sort of PR.  I don&#8217;t blame the kid.  They are right!!!!!</p>
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