A-League draw throws up some big questions
By Adrian Musolino, 22 Apr 2009 Adrian Musolino is a Roar Expert
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Matt McKay (left) and Billy Celeski in action during Round 18 of the Hyundai A-League between Melbourne Victory FC and Queensland Roar FC at Telstra Dome, Melbourne, Friday, Jan. 2, 2009. AAP Image/Raoul Wegat
A-League fans have their wish of more games with the release of the 2009/10 draw. 51 more games, in fact, with the season now further intruding into the AFL and NRL seasons.
With debuts at the SCG, Subiaco, Thursday night games, two new teams and a midweek round, this season may prove to be the League’s greatest test.
Firstly, the intrusion into the ‘winter codes’ season throws up some interesting dilemmas. For one, it results in Melbourne’s early season Thursday night matches at home.
It also raises question marks about the ability of the League to gain much traction during the first two months of the season.
With World Cup qualification a mere formality, likely to be achieved a couple of months before the A-League season kicks off, there won’t be a huge springboard into the season, unlike that which will help launch the 2010/11 season after the Socceroos take part in another World Cup.
This is why the next stage of expansion should take place immediately for 2010/11.
Strike when the bandwagon jumpers are on board.
But the addition of Gold Coast and North Queensland has already added much to the competition, depth in teams, fixtures, intrigue, and avoids, by a couple of weeks at least, teams meeting one another so regularly.
This can no longer be used as an excuse for poor crowds.
Debutant Gold Coast United is the first club to take issue with the draw, in particular the decision to stage their first round match against local rivals Queensland-Brisbane Roar at Suncorp, a decision they labelled a “slap in the face.”
It’s obviously a free kick to the Roar who is struggling financially and face increased competition within a state they once owned but now has a significantly reduced market share in.
As a result, Gold Coast fans are forced to make the hour-plus drive north for their team’s debut.
Both the Gold Coast and North Queensland have the potential to draw crowds across the country, and this adds so much to the schedule.
Sydney FC will meet the Fury and Fowler at the SCG in Round 6, due to the NRL finals.
Let’s hope Fowler’s hamstring is still intact by then.
Much is being asked of the Perth Glory, however, hosting Sydney FC at the 46,500 capacity Subiaco. It’s a difficult task for the Glory to even hope to half fill the ground when they can’t even fill the 18,156 Members Equity Stadium.
However, the Round 19 midweek round is a step in the right direction, a sign, with the added fixtures and calendar congestion, of our growing football maturity.
The tyranny of distance precludes too many consecutive weekend-midweek rounds, and so Round 19 is spread over six weeks over the Christmas and New Year period.
Smartly, too, the midweek fixtures have been given to teams able to pull a crowd: Melbourne, Adelaide plus a Queensland derby between the Roar and Fury.
Meanwhile, the much panned finals system, with six teams, at least keeps more clubs in contention, especially if we have the same bottleneck race as the regular season comes to an end, helping to maintain crowd interest for teams on the brink.
Crucially, too, there is fairness, the FFA resisting the huge to move toward an AFL type uneven competition.
All teams will play each other three times.
After last season’s stagnating crowd figures, it is only natural the focus next season will be on any changes in this regard.
The FFA is using the first stage of expansion to up the ante for this coming season, with bigger stadiums, more fixtures, and new initiatives.
They’ve really raised the stakes.
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Koala Bear said | April 22nd 2009 @ 7:52am | Report comment
What did you expect .. ? The whole draw is designed by an AFL lunatic…
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KB
Midfielder said | April 22nd 2009 @ 8:00am | Report comment
I am a little apprehensive about the head to head battle with the AFL & NRL so early on in Hal’s existence… Many questions come to mind .. are we ready … do we have the players… why now, why not in 2 years …. why not after the WC assuming we make it …. why the rush…
Then I look at Obie One … BB & now Archie Fraser… do they have the management ability to make the call … would they have checked and rechecked data / surveys / economic conditions / Asian Football politics / the ability of the new and existing teams to survive / would , could they assume media coverage etc ….OMG it had to come one day and the day is near … head to head for 3 months the starting two and the ending month… no longer hide behind the summer protection …. massive call … the bring it on crowd,” have won” … bugger me it is going to be hard.. However although I think it’s to early I have faith in the management team so where to from here…
….”Archie Fraser the man charged with taking the A-League to the next level has warned the clubs he intends to set demanding benchmarks and won’t tolerate “mediocrity”. “There is no time for Excuses”
http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25356022-5006068,00.html
The gist of this article is everyone must lift to a higher standard at club / player / coach level … Fraser’s argument is more about administrators lifting their game and connecting to the football family including the elusive “European set” …
Management he argues need to do more to connect to the football family … he is right … how it’s done I have no idea at this stage… all I know we are no longer a fringe player on the Australian sporting landscape we have a 8 month season … still 4 years away from the next media deal…
I have faith in our management team I hope that Archie can show and lead the A-League teams on how to improve and connect more with the football family … the start of stage 3 … so much to do, so many obstacles in the way, in the end it will come down to the average punter in the street … the new day awaits expectations a plenty, .. Yes we can says midfielder looking around nervously yes we can…
Midfielder said | April 22nd 2009 @ 8:01am | Report comment
Papa
Tough call …AFL lunatic …
Tom said | April 22nd 2009 @ 8:07am | Report comment
The SCG and Subiaco games are strange ones.
The big problem with the draw though is Melbourne and Adelaide playing ACL games during the finals series. I don’t suppose there was anything that could have been done to change that, but hopefully if either of those teams make it to the last couple of weeks of the finals there’ll be some kind of concession made.
Michael C said | April 22nd 2009 @ 9:26am | Report comment
“After last season’s stagnating crowd figures”
They didn’t stagnate.
They fell to below V2 levels.
- – - btw, a 3 ’round’ H&A draw IS an uneven draw, i.e. team A plays team B thrice, but has 2 homes games vs 1 away. With such tyranny of distance as referred to in the article – how then is such an arrangement anything but uneven??
(reality always is, if you plan to make the finals and win, you’d better just beat the opposition on the day whereever and whenever you play – and not whinge about inequities of a draw. A fixture that invariably changes in it’s nature of inequity from the time the draw is first put together to the time the season is a month in and the new season’s ‘form’ and injuries and the like come into play)
Adrian Musolino said | April 22nd 2009 @ 12:28pm | Report comment
There is more fairness in playing each team an equal amount of times compared with the AFL example.
Finno said | April 22nd 2009 @ 1:00pm | Report comment
I thinks it a better idea to start in August than September to avoid the the finals series of AFL and league. You have to watch that the final A – League series doesnt clash with the start of the winter codes though. The A-League must not be seen as to compete with the other codes.
The A-League doesnt need to see themselves as another football code. Let AFL, league and Rugby bash each other out over expansion into tradition areas held by others. Football has no traditional areas is
And having the crowds attendance drop is a good reality check for the A-League if the clubs can survive the economic down turn, expansions and pull through with the main body intact its not a bad thing .
The A-League has to survive first and remain connected with the Socceroos. The A- League needs to be a permenant fixture in the sporting calender of Australia not a flash in the pan.
Norm said | April 22nd 2009 @ 1:19pm | Report comment
-”They didn’t stagnate…They fell to below V2 levels”..but not to the same level as Sth Africa & UAE NAB cup crowds.
Michael C said | April 22nd 2009 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
Adrian -
true – but still not ideal or perfect. And so, a compromise.
When you then factor in a variety of factors such as :
playing Team A when Player B is on higher duties for King and country,[the AFL killed off SoO and doesn't have this 'problem']
the club in general having to compromise between conflicting ‘tournaments’, i.e. when an ACL campaign get’s in the way of a HAL campaign (or vice versa) [the AFL doesn't have this 'problem'!!]
Tyranny of distance, sees an advantage for NSW teams and QLD teams having 2 intra state road trips (okay, no trip to Townsville is ‘short’) compared to Wellington always going ‘international’ on the road, and Perth always going BACK IN TIME (time travel)to play a game ‘away’,[granted, the same state teams don't share venues, in AFL, obviously, the Melb teams share 2 venues and often lose 'home' ground advantage.]
and given the fledgling nature of the tournament, with clubs still struggling to break even – the simple fact that the 21 game season previously has provided 11 home vs 10 away or vice versa, means that every year, half the competition is at a financial disadvantage (1 ‘home gate’ down). ON this front, for all the lack of a ‘balanced’ H&A fixture, the AFL DOES schedule each club to 11 home matches.
There’s varying degrees of fairness.
Finno -
soccer in Australia has been pretty well dominated by NSW sides in the NSL and thus far the HAL. The greatest absolute and relative numbers of soccer participants are in NSW by a fair way – - NSW is the ‘home’ of soccer. It’s only the spin doctors who try to make you believe that it presents a nice ‘average’ across the country. Truth is, it’s very Sydney centric. And, just check most the bloggers who are pushing for a 2nd Sydney team, and a team at the ‘Gong, and mebbe one in Canberra (reality, ACT is part of NSW culturally – just compare the BArton Hwy vs the Federal Hwy!!! All ‘good’ roads lead to Sydney.)
Millster said | April 22nd 2009 @ 3:13pm | Report comment
I have to say, whatever the logic or lack thereof in the different scheduling and finals decisions, there is ‘something extra’ about this coming season.
Maybe it’s the 2 new clubs?
Maybe (and this is more just Sydney-centric) its the change of guard at SFC and the hope of something better?
Maybe its the realisation that has come, and stayed, from last year’s ACL adventure of our actual – and potential – place in the club footballing world?
Maybe its the anticipation of the World Cup which is just around the corner?
In any case, for all my mixed views about what is going on, in my heart there is an excitement. Andthough i’ve been a good HAL supporter from the start, attending over 50% of SFC games since Season 1, this year will be the year that I formally sign up as a member – even if I don’t attend any more games its the year where I believe its right to really ut my money where my mouth is.
Bring on the first kick off. I can’t wait.