Rugby is building sandcastles in the air
By sheek, 12 May 2009 The Crowd is a Roar Pro
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Crusaders' Thomas Waldrom is hammered into the ground by Brumbies players in the Super 14 rugby match at Canberra Stadium, Saturday, Feb. 21, 2009. AAP Image/Alan Porritt
Whatever John O’Neill’s faults, he’s a pragmatic fellow. One of O’Neill’s favourite sayings, a constant reminder to rugby fans, is that too many of us “see the world as we want it to be, and not as it actually is.”
While the sentiment is noble, it is often highly illogical and impractical, as O’Neill points out.
‘Roarers’ have debated ad nauseum various models of Australian national comps, myself very much in the vanguard, as well as various Super Series models.
The reality is, we’re building sandcastles in the air.
A question to ask at this point is “how did it all come to this?” At the beginning of the millenium, there appeared to be no end to Australian rugby’s bright new dawn.
Yet, less than a decade later, the code is floundering in Australia.
I don’t care for the statistics, they can be manipulated in any variety of ways. Sure, you can find fault with all four football codes, but rugby union is still at the bottom of the pile, whichever way you dissect the problems.
I admire the constant positive vibes of some rugby fans. But eventually reality must bite. It’s like losing a limb where no amount of positive attitude will make that limb grow back again.
A positive attitude helps you cope with the disability, and to move on. But it doesn’t reverse the process.
Perhaps one day humanity will find the means, but at present it’s impossible. So let’s stop pretending rugby union is doing okay, or that the limb will grow back!
Last week at a sports seminar, O’Neill warned the four football codes that they all “needed to tighten their belts.” In response, a FFA spokesman said football would continue with its expansion plans as “it had deep player penetration in all those markets.”
And that is the crux of the matter – deep player (participation) penetration.
Whatever his faults, O’Neill is on the money with his proposed Super 15 suggestion of five provinces from each of Australia, New Zealand and South Africa.
Each province playing its fellow countrymen twice, and the others once each for a total of 18 matches per province. Plus, a six team finals series.
Perfect!
If South Africa don’t come to an agreement, it will become a trans-Tasman competition with the five Aussie and five Kiwi provinces.
Okay, there might be less broadcasting revenue for a trans-Tasman competition, but operating costs (air travel, accommodation, transfers) will also be less. The bottom line could possibly come out the same.
Furthermore, Aussie and Kiwi fans won’t have to put up with early morning games in South Africa (our time). All practical, common sense stuff.
Even putting a fifth provincial team together will require the co-operation of all the stakeholders in Australian rugby. We need to get as many quality players back from Europe and Japan as we can. We also need a draft to ensure the five provinces are more or less of a similar standard.
Any thoughts of a eight to ten team national competition is regrettably sandcastles in the air stuff – unsustainable. It won’t happen for about twenty years, if ever.
How did it all come to this?
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Ed said | May 12th 2009 @ 2:37am | Report comment
I agree with you sheek, JON is a pragmatic bloke and with all his swagger and outrageous remarks I’m sure he must have a master plan behind it all. I’m starting to think that O’Neill actually wants SANZAR to break up so he can form the TT comp and I’m starting to agree that it may be a good thing. He seems to want to aggravate the saffas with incensory comments that can only make them more stubborn. It seems to me that this TT is much more than a bargaining chip but perhaps his way of creating a stronger domestic comp.
A TT comp will have much more potential for expansion than a super 15. Australia will need another team or 2 in the next 5yrs to compete with the other codes. If the saffas proposed format of starting in feb gets through it will be hard to find room for future expansion in super rugby and with the need to have even teams for each country there will be a super 21 (which is not going to happen) before we get extra teams.
With a TT comp Australia can field 5 teams, which admittedly will strain our players reserves, but it will crucially keep provide more opportunities to up and comers. O’Neill recently floated the idea of New Zealand being involved in a partnership with the Melbourne Franchise. This is not as far fetched as it seems. New Zealand (at least their in the best position to) as frequently stated by many roarers has an abundance of talent and could easily field another team or 2. However they probably don’t have the market for another team, at least when compared to potential of Melbourne or Sth Aus. New Zealand would love the opportunity to develop their players in our teams. It would keep their domestic comp strong and help stop the player drain. More importantly an transfer of players between AUS and NZ clubs would enable Australia to set up the franchises it needs so desperately for market exposure, which unfortunately they currently don’t have the talent to sutain. Besides having foreingers in ur clubs always adds a bit of spice. Just look at the premier league. This may be hard to agree with, but there is the potential to have a couple more super sides in aus soon as long as more foreigners are allowed to play in the comp.
Wouldn’t it be great to eventually have a 20 team 4 pool comp heineken cup styled tournament running parrallel to a domestic comp involving the best 4 clubs from Aus NZ SA and 2 from Japan and Arg, 1 each from Fiji, Tonga, Somoa and China. Mind you I know this realistically couldn’t happen for a long time. Perhaps just a 2 pool comp to begin with add some of the lesser nations as they develop and as the cup grows in popularity.
Though to do this we need to start developing teams in Australia quickly. I know it’s far fetched and it probably has lots of holes in it, but I can only dream.
Untimelyzapped said | May 12th 2009 @ 5:24am | Report comment
Good post, Sheek. Give you a blue star for that one. Like a lot of people, I want to see a TT comp. For one thing, I don’t think it’s going to be a SH/NH rugby world for much longer. I think SA will eventually depart and play in the British/Irish/European theatre. And the idea of including Argentina in a regular season comp is geographically stressful, and would be scotched anyway by a US/Canada/Uruguay/Argentina comp which is being
studied (with the inclusion, after several years of development, of Mexico and Brazil).
A Kiwi/Oz/Fiji/Samoa comp would probably be financially viable if it included a revitalized Japan (and China after development), and the thought of a combined Anzac/Island team playing the B&I Lions is mouthwatering.
sheek said | May 12th 2009 @ 6:51am | Report comment
Ed/Untimely,
Thanks. I guess one significant difference between O’Neill & the rest of us, is that he can see the play several moves down the track, even make the play when the opportunity arises. That’s what makes him such a clever administrator.
The S15 scenario is precisely the same in my view, as the RWC hosting rights in 2003. Back then, the initial problem (co-hosting) was with the NZRU over advertising rights agreements. When presented with the possibility of the ARU going alone, O’Neill grabbed the opportunity.
Kiwis thought O’Neill masterminded it, but he simply saw the ‘gap’, & went for it. Ditto the S15 scenario. I don’t think a TT was O’Neill’s original aim, but as the Saffies continue to stall, the alternative has now become extremely attractive, to a wider audience in Australia & NZ.
The TT is now building a momentum of its own. South Africa ought to be very worried!
Untimelyzapped said | May 12th 2009 @ 7:26am | Report comment
SHEEK – Is SA worried? It depends on what’s going on with their (somewhat secret) talks with the Brits and Euros. There a large group of SA ex-pats in Britain who’d jam into all the stadiums over there to watch SA teams, as well as big local Brit/Irish interest in watching SA rugby teams on a regular basis for their heavy-hitting forwards and the flair of their backline play. And that translates into more local TV viewers and more money for sponsors etc.
AZs for what happened in 2003, I’ve always thought that grabbing off the RWC really curdled Oz/Kiwi rugby relations for some time, and I remain convinced that the more united Oz and NZ rugby is, the more power the Pacific quadrant will have. And we’re going to need it because the European unions still regard us as annoying upstarts.
Just ask Spiro. He knows where the Twickenham bodies are buried.
pothale said | May 12th 2009 @ 7:31am | Report comment
Maybe the Saffas won’t be worried cos they want to move anyway. In which case, best outcome for everyone all round.
Though I don’t buy it. O’Neill as the ultimate opportunist/pragmatist in reaching for the best solution available as the situation evolves would make me nervous. What if the broadcasters don’t pony up, or the money isn’t there to create another franchise under the Trans-Tasman Alternative? I don’t believe the additional franchise will stand up financially in an expanded S15/16; under the TTA, there’s even less money going round.
I think the Australian rugby loving public should be worried.
pothale said | May 12th 2009 @ 7:33am | Report comment
Sorry I forgot. I meant to say the Australian rugby union-loving public should be worried. The other codes will be delighted.
LeftArmSpinner said | May 12th 2009 @ 8:07am | Report comment
Sandcastles? Definitely, and currently the foundations are being further eroded. For example, Easts, Norths and Penrith don’t bother running U1t5 rep teams in the annual rep team comp in Sydney. All the efforts of those junior clubs and their armies of generous volunteers from the U6′s up comes to nothing because at the critical point, the U15, when the elite players need to decide which code to pursue, rugby does even give them a rep team!!!!!
Idiotic, misguided, lazy and stupid!!!
reds fan said | May 12th 2009 @ 8:08am | Report comment
I think you are way off the mark. The South Africans will come to the party. They know its where they should be playing.
If anyone thinks a TT comp will happen they are seriously building sandcastles in the air.
mitzter said | May 12th 2009 @ 8:14am | Report comment
Go the TT comp!
A competition to believe in!
I read an article by old bones Connelly on the weekend saying we need SA to survive and rugby will end if they go their seperate way. Him wanting SA to stay just made me want the TT more
sheek said | May 12th 2009 @ 8:20am | Report comment
Untimelyzapped,
I don’t think the Saffies are overly worried. I suspect they have confidence in their own structures & markets. I actually see them moving towards Argentina rather than Europe. Which wouldn’t be a bad thing at all, since the Argies have been badly ignored by everyone.
I don’t know why I think SA will move into Argentina, but the European option just seems impractical to me, despite the presence of ex-pats there.