Test series predictions from the pub
By Lazlo Fade, 15 May 2009 The Crowd is a Roar Pro
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An Aussie, a Kiwi and a Saffer walk into a pub. No, that’s not the start of a joke, it’s for real – I was part of a foursome of rugby fans last week, drinking Carlton at the Shark Bar on the Corso. I took notes as the trio discussed the coming June tests and Tri-Nations games. Their opinions follow.
For those who may be unfamiliar with this year’s schedule, the All Blacks play France 13 June, play them again a week later, then meet Italy a week after that. This is followed by a three week break before meeting the Wallabies in NZ. They then play the Springboks a week later in SA; and a second time a week after that. That’s six tests in 42 days.
The Boks have three tests against the visiting Lions within 21 days, get a three week break, then play three tests – the ABs twice, the Wallabies once, all at home – also inside of 21 days.
The Wallabies play the ABs in NZ July 18, then play the Boks in SA three weeks later, then the ABs in Sydney, the Boks in Perth and Brisbane, and the ABs in Wellington Sept 19. Plus they play France twice and Italy once in June.
The Kiwi said – “We’ll beat France without too much trouble because, for one thing, they won’t send their best team, as usual, and even if they did, we’re still better than they are. They have a terrific back row in Harinordoquy, Dusautoir and Picamoles, but the other twelve are good but not great.
‘We have the Wallabies in Auckland first up in the Tri. We’ll win that one, and we’ll win the return in Wellington and beat the Boks in Hamilton. Why? Because with the RWC looming, we won’t, repeat won’t, want to be beaten at home by anybody.
‘As for the game against the Boks in Bloemfontein, they’ll still be sore from the Lions jumping up and down on them – although I think the Boks will take that series – so I believe the ABs could win that one. The Boks will come back at us at Durban and we could lose that one even though it’s at sea level.
‘The hardest game to call is the one against the Wallabies in Sydney. If they have a new look team, with new look Deans coaching, we could be vulnerable. But I’m picking the ABs to win four out of six in the Tri.”
The Saffer – “I agree on the Lions tour. They have strength at 15,7 and 8 but then things tail off. Also, we’ve got them going from altitude to sea level and back again – our advantage.
‘Another big advantage for us is at the start of the Tri when we have two games against the ABs and one against the Ws, all three on home turf. Yes, the ABs might well be in better shape than we are in Bloemfontein, but we win in Durban and no way do we lose to the Ws in Cape Town.
‘I’ll give you the win in Hamilton. The games against the Ws in Perth and Brisbane are hard to call for the reasons you just gave. I’m pretty sure I can tell you the Bok team right now, if it’s injury-free, and I can get close on the AB team, but the Ws may have some fresh faces and they’ll either play some dynamic stuff or fall flat. We could end up three-three.”
The Aussie – “The ABs have three tests within three weeks at home, then stay home for the Tri opener against us. They’ll be tough to beat in Auckland and Wellington no matter who Deans goes with. And the Boks will be tough to beat in Cape Town.
‘As for the home games against the ABs in Sydney, and the Boks in Perth and Brisbane, we’re all in agreement there – hard to predict. If the Ws get the selection right, and it clicks, there could be three upsets. But that’s a big if.
‘At the moment we have a fine front row, a second row in need of rejuvenation, and a classy back row if Palu is switched on. We have a question to answer at halfback, a captain who may have seen his best days as an attacking centre, and another position to get right at fullback.
‘I’m gloomy. I think we’ll end up two-four.”
So that’s the prediction at our pub.
What’s the prediction at yours?
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sambobly said | May 15th 2009 @ 11:04am | Report comment
Wallabies to win every game except the one of the ones in NZ. SA and NZ supporters to sit around with their heads in their hands as the Wallabies destroy all and sundry. Expect dancing in the streets from at least this happy wallabies supporter.
Hope springs eternal.
Cracker said | May 15th 2009 @ 11:17am | Report comment
That is probably the way it will pan out Sambobly. Looking forward to it!
Conor said | May 15th 2009 @ 12:29pm | Report comment
Lovin it sambobly
lovin it
Working Class Rugger said | May 15th 2009 @ 2:03pm | Report comment
I actually think this could be the year of the Wallaby. Many will berate us if no Aussie team makes the S14 frinals. But when you consdier we have the two best performed packs in the comps and two of the best backlines ( when the Reds run hot they really run hot). Combine these with a strong, quick ,skillful and mobile pack backed up with what should be a electric backline. The test series and Tri-Nations should be crackers.
brad said | May 15th 2009 @ 3:00pm | Report comment
If barnes is injury free imagine how awsome he would be with giteau! Having no teams in the semis will give them time to concentrate on the Tri and the springboks will have a lions hangover. If the All Blacks want to win the world cup then they have to start losing now, that way they do not peak inbetween as usual. Wallabies could win this one (nathan sharpe must NOT be picked)
CronullaKiwi said | May 15th 2009 @ 3:19pm | Report comment
I think the Wallabies had a massive chance to win last years and missed it. Ab’s were proabbly at their weakest in the last 7 years and the Boks were on the WC hangover. AB’s will be a far stronger side this year and the Boks will be switched on again. The Wallabies will be marginally better than last year but still some way off the best 2 sides in the world. Im predicting they will finish bottom barring some upsets.
Clarke said | May 15th 2009 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
Wallabies all the way!
allblackfan said | May 16th 2009 @ 1:57am | Report comment
SA and NZ to duke it out for top place.
Wallabies will try hard but forwards will be found wanting (unless they start picking more NZ players like Fairbrother!!)
bennalong said | May 17th 2009 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
Australian bloggers tend to be a defeatist lot, highly critical of their own team(s), but I’m pleased to find myself in agreement with the majority above
The Boks and the Blacks like to think of ‘the Eales years’ as aberrations. Short memories make the unexpected losses much more humbling.
Ahhh! I remember the All-Black faces RWC 2003.
Working Class Rugger said | May 17th 2009 @ 2:58pm | Report comment
Weren’t The Wallabies written off early last year. Only to produce vastly improved performances. This year we will see this again. From what I have seen from the SA sides this year. It seems that nothing new has emerged. Not to say we shouldn’t respect the SA pack but there will be no fear. The Kiwi packs haven’t really raised an eyebrow either. The surprise was the stability of the Chiefs in most games. There will be very few surprises come AB selections in the forward pack.
Saying Robinson hasn’t faced anyone this season is an insult to the progress the guy has made. Face it. He has been the best performed Loosehead by a long way, if not the best performed scrummaging prop in the comp. I can’t justify either Horwill or Sharpe’s selection. Neither’s form is up to scratch.