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		<title>By: Scarface</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-4/#comment-383364</link>
		<dc:creator>Scarface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Drugs are for people who cannot handle reality, and reality is for people who cannot handle drugs.
I hate people who take drugs……….customs officers for example.
I have diddled with a few creations of the earth in my time, and a few made in laboratories as well – you know…..the ones you find in every chemist, and have played sport on a variety of them. The only performance enhancing drug in my opinion in the class of opiates, barbiturates, narcotics, hallucinogens, and amphetamines, is SPEED. A very nasty drug that you find in nearly all cold and flu medications – and which has the effect of drinking about a million cups of coffee in the one sitting. The only enhancement cocaine would give an athlete is that he/she may believe that they are performing better than they actually are (and they might decide to showcase some designer footwear as well!), although if one was lacking sleep the effects would be similar to large amounts of caffeine. The only sporting identities that I have personally witnessed under the effects of marijuana are players from past West Indian cricket teams – Smoking Joe (Viv Richards) red-eyed from a few tokes of The Bob Marley, would play like a champion when he was in the zone. This however is part of the Rastafarian religion and smoking dope on a daily basis is considered spiritual, and also the norm – so in their case I would say that marijuana was not performance enhancing. Like most drugs- alcohol included – users are often of the belief that they are better, faster, stronger, wittier (hiccup), and more intelligent after imbibing. Laughter has been, and always will be the best medicine.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Drugs are for people who cannot handle reality, and reality is for people who cannot handle drugs.<br />
I hate people who take drugs……….customs officers for example.<br />
I have diddled with a few creations of the earth in my time, and a few made in laboratories as well – you know…..the ones you find in every chemist, and have played sport on a variety of them. The only performance enhancing drug in my opinion in the class of opiates, barbiturates, narcotics, hallucinogens, and amphetamines, is SPEED. A very nasty drug that you find in nearly all cold and flu medications – and which has the effect of drinking about a million cups of coffee in the one sitting. The only enhancement cocaine would give an athlete is that he/she may believe that they are performing better than they actually are (and they might decide to showcase some designer footwear as well!), although if one was lacking sleep the effects would be similar to large amounts of caffeine. The only sporting identities that I have personally witnessed under the effects of marijuana are players from past West Indian cricket teams – Smoking Joe (Viv Richards) red-eyed from a few tokes of The Bob Marley, would play like a champion when he was in the zone. This however is part of the Rastafarian religion and smoking dope on a daily basis is considered spiritual, and also the norm – so in their case I would say that marijuana was not performance enhancing. Like most drugs- alcohol included – users are often of the belief that they are better, faster, stronger, wittier (hiccup), and more intelligent after imbibing. Laughter has been, and always will be the best medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: bob smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 23:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wendall sailor is the biggest idiot for taking drugs</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wendall sailor is the biggest idiot for taking drugs</p>
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		<title>By: Dean Pantio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dean Pantio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:57:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Secondly it is ridiculous because even if cocaine were being used as a stimulant to achieve better performance, it’s benefit would be no greater than that of, say, performing the haka or being the recipient of one of Alan Jones’s legendary pep talks&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

The peer reviewed medical science tells us otherwise. Cocaine is a stimulant and enhances performance in a  range of metrics.

Ultimately though, if you don&#039;t like the fact that your chosen sport will test and ban for certain substances you have two choices: Don&#039;t use said substance and keep playing the sport, &lt;i&gt;or&lt;/i&gt; give up the sport. It&#039;s really that simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Secondly it is ridiculous because even if cocaine were being used as a stimulant to achieve better performance, it’s benefit would be no greater than that of, say, performing the haka or being the recipient of one of Alan Jones’s legendary pep talks&#8221;</i></p>
<p>The peer reviewed medical science tells us otherwise. Cocaine is a stimulant and enhances performance in a  range of metrics.</p>
<p>Ultimately though, if you don&#8217;t like the fact that your chosen sport will test and ban for certain substances you have two choices: Don&#8217;t use said substance and keep playing the sport, <i>or</i> give up the sport. It&#8217;s really that simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Gibbo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-2/#comment-193212</link>
		<dc:creator>Gibbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Aug 2009 03:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>although perhaps you are over-estimating the burden of cocain addiction?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>although perhaps you are over-estimating the burden of cocain addiction?</p>
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		<title>By: Mattyg</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-4/#comment-183803</link>
		<dc:creator>Mattyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 04:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t cocaine be performance enhancing for anarobic sports. 100m sprints, swim sprints, weight lifting, Tae Kwon Do, those kind of things?
Does WADA have a seperate list of banned drugs for different sports, or are the same drugs banned for all sports? 
 If there is a blanket ban on the prohibited list across all sports, having cocaine as a banned substance for endurance sports would be due to its stimulant effect on the quick sprint and power sports.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t cocaine be performance enhancing for anarobic sports. 100m sprints, swim sprints, weight lifting, Tae Kwon Do, those kind of things?<br />
Does WADA have a seperate list of banned drugs for different sports, or are the same drugs banned for all sports?<br />
 If there is a blanket ban on the prohibited list across all sports, having cocaine as a banned substance for endurance sports would be due to its stimulant effect on the quick sprint and power sports.</p>
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		<title>By: Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Jun 2009 05:28:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Knives,

You&#039;ve just had Graeme Steel the Chief Executive of Drug Free Sport NZ clearly state that cocain IS A PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUG.

But obviously you are far more qualified to comment so we&#039;ll just believe you shall we? YOU TWAT!

I have some comprehension of urban life - and sporting life - and can categorically state that coke very much acts as a stimulant - thus an enhancement to sporting performance! 

Your above statement &quot;Anybody with any comprehension of urban life - however slight - will be absolutely aware that coacine is not a performance enhancing drug&quot; comes across with incredible arrogance - do you seriously believe your statement? Open your eyes!

Again I&#039;ll state - YOU TWAT!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Knives,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve just had Graeme Steel the Chief Executive of Drug Free Sport NZ clearly state that cocain IS A PERFORMANCE ENHANCING DRUG.</p>
<p>But obviously you are far more qualified to comment so we&#8217;ll just believe you shall we? YOU TWAT!</p>
<p>I have some comprehension of urban life &#8211; and sporting life &#8211; and can categorically state that coke very much acts as a stimulant &#8211; thus an enhancement to sporting performance! </p>
<p>Your above statement &#8220;Anybody with any comprehension of urban life &#8211; however slight &#8211; will be absolutely aware that coacine is not a performance enhancing drug&#8221; comes across with incredible arrogance &#8211; do you seriously believe your statement? Open your eyes!</p>
<p>Again I&#8217;ll state &#8211; YOU TWAT!</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-4/#comment-148790</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 16:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anybody with any comprehension of urban life - however slight  - will be absolutely aware that coacine is not a performance enhancing drug. Further, it is completely disingenuous, and also negligent, to suggest that there is no moral motive behind the banning of cocaine otherwise cannabinoids would not also be banned - under their own grouping, of course. But hey, misrepresentation of an appropriate expert and xenophobic prose makes for great reading from where I&#039;m sitting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anybody with any comprehension of urban life &#8211; however slight  &#8211; will be absolutely aware that coacine is not a performance enhancing drug. Further, it is completely disingenuous, and also negligent, to suggest that there is no moral motive behind the banning of cocaine otherwise cannabinoids would not also be banned &#8211; under their own grouping, of course. But hey, misrepresentation of an appropriate expert and xenophobic prose makes for great reading from where I&#8217;m sitting.</p>
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		<title>By: INA</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-4/#comment-148783</link>
		<dc:creator>INA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 15:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocaine can&#039;t help you alot , maybe in the first 10-15 min. As a whole it ruins your performance in long term.
As Maradona has said &quot;Imagine how much better I would&#039;ve been without my cocaine and alcohol problems.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocaine can&#8217;t help you alot , maybe in the first 10-15 min. As a whole it ruins your performance in long term.<br />
As Maradona has said &#8220;Imagine how much better I would&#8217;ve been without my cocaine and alcohol problems.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: znotty</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-4/#comment-148757</link>
		<dc:creator>znotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 13:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>well i have used cocaine &amp; it didn`t make anything but a bigger wanker (if possible) i reckon it would hinder performance myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well i have used cocaine &amp; it didn`t make anything but a bigger wanker (if possible) i reckon it would hinder performance myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 12:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re &quot;How does cocaine improve performance”, see the posting above by the head of Drug Free Sport NZ (the body that policies drug use in NZ sport). See also the WADA website. Basically, cocaine is a stimulant. Being a scientist does not equip me to offer significant insight beyond this. Rather, such could be provided by those who have used cocaine and experienced its effects. As I state in my article, I have not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re &#8220;How does cocaine improve performance”, see the posting above by the head of Drug Free Sport NZ (the body that policies drug use in NZ sport). See also the WADA website. Basically, cocaine is a stimulant. Being a scientist does not equip me to offer significant insight beyond this. Rather, such could be provided by those who have used cocaine and experienced its effects. As I state in my article, I have not.</p>
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		<title>By: znotty</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-3/#comment-148669</link>
		<dc:creator>znotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 10:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steffy
i`m asking a scientist to explain how cocaine improves performance,what you do at your local night club is your business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steffy<br />
i`m asking a scientist to explain how cocaine improves performance,what you do at your local night club is your business.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffy</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-3/#comment-148656</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 09:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Greg,How does cocaine improve performance&quot;

The people who chew coca leaves in South America while working longs days at high altitude don&#039;t do so because they wish to talk crap to each other all day and night.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Greg,How does cocaine improve performance&#8221;</p>
<p>The people who chew coca leaves in South America while working longs days at high altitude don&#8217;t do so because they wish to talk crap to each other all day and night.</p>
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		<title>By: znotty</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-3/#comment-148492</link>
		<dc:creator>znotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 02:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,How does cocaine improve performance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,How does cocaine improve performance.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Russell</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-3/#comment-148473</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2009 01:52:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Graeme (Steel):

I apologize that I extrapolated the view of Drug Free Sport NZ a bit too far. As I remember you definitely said marijuana, and I&#039;m pretty sure you also said that testing for cannabis was not a good use of resources (when I checked the WADA website yesterday, I noticed that it groups both these two together on the banned list). I cannot remember if some media also threw in cocaine with their reports (in 2007), or if I did this extrapolation myself. Whatever, I was wrong, and I apologize.

I should also stress that my article is merely my own opinion. I apologize for the implication that my opinion is supported by your own. As you have clarified, it is not when it comes to cocaine, although it is when it comes to some lesser substances.

I do concede in my article that cocaine can technically be performance enhancing (as you write). But I wonder what you say to my point that in all cases of cocaine use of which I am aware (see listed names plus more), the use has purely been for recreational purposes.

You do write that the cocaine use has to be &quot;prior to an event&quot; to have &quot; the potential to enhance performance&quot;. I realise that testing cannot distinguish whether people like Wendell Sailor and Martina Hingis used cocaine immediately prior to taking the field of play, but I think it is stretching common sense even to think that they did. (If I remember correctly, Wendell said he used cocaine on the Wednesday before a Saturday game.)

I was interested in your &quot;health&quot; defence for the position on cocaine: &quot;of greater concern, is arguably the most dangerous thing an athlete can take if circumstances such as dehydration and heat are added to the mix.&quot; If WADA is going to position itself in such terrain, then I wonder what you say to the point that various readers have made about &quot;needling up&quot;, i.e., using painkillers to mask the pain of an injury so that they can take the field. I would have thought that this (widespread) practice would be far more potentially dangerous to an athlete&#039;s health than cocaine use, so why does WADA not ban it?

Am I correct in assuming from your comment that if Boonen had tested positive in-competition, then he too would be facing a mandatory two-year ban?

Finally, your coment is useful for those readers who refuse to accept that WADA bans cocaine for performance rather than moral reasons - thankyou.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Graeme (Steel):</p>
<p>I apologize that I extrapolated the view of Drug Free Sport NZ a bit too far. As I remember you definitely said marijuana, and I&#8217;m pretty sure you also said that testing for cannabis was not a good use of resources (when I checked the WADA website yesterday, I noticed that it groups both these two together on the banned list). I cannot remember if some media also threw in cocaine with their reports (in 2007), or if I did this extrapolation myself. Whatever, I was wrong, and I apologize.</p>
<p>I should also stress that my article is merely my own opinion. I apologize for the implication that my opinion is supported by your own. As you have clarified, it is not when it comes to cocaine, although it is when it comes to some lesser substances.</p>
<p>I do concede in my article that cocaine can technically be performance enhancing (as you write). But I wonder what you say to my point that in all cases of cocaine use of which I am aware (see listed names plus more), the use has purely been for recreational purposes.</p>
<p>You do write that the cocaine use has to be &#8220;prior to an event&#8221; to have &#8221; the potential to enhance performance&#8221;. I realise that testing cannot distinguish whether people like Wendell Sailor and Martina Hingis used cocaine immediately prior to taking the field of play, but I think it is stretching common sense even to think that they did. (If I remember correctly, Wendell said he used cocaine on the Wednesday before a Saturday game.)</p>
<p>I was interested in your &#8220;health&#8221; defence for the position on cocaine: &#8220;of greater concern, is arguably the most dangerous thing an athlete can take if circumstances such as dehydration and heat are added to the mix.&#8221; If WADA is going to position itself in such terrain, then I wonder what you say to the point that various readers have made about &#8220;needling up&#8221;, i.e., using painkillers to mask the pain of an injury so that they can take the field. I would have thought that this (widespread) practice would be far more potentially dangerous to an athlete&#8217;s health than cocaine use, so why does WADA not ban it?</p>
<p>Am I correct in assuming from your comment that if Boonen had tested positive in-competition, then he too would be facing a mandatory two-year ban?</p>
<p>Finally, your coment is useful for those readers who refuse to accept that WADA bans cocaine for performance rather than moral reasons &#8211; thankyou.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie -

cocaine IS illegal.  So is speeding.

Sports clubs often become as if defacto parents/guardians of players often plucked from family in late teens - so what is the responsibility of a code/club to support the players involved.

btw - further to the AFL findings, a high proportion of those testing positive under their illicit drugs policy where found to have mental illness (whether undiagnosed or not).  This policy is assisting greatly in developing appropriate support mechanisms for people with such issues to function in such an environment.

If WADA had their way - - it&#039;s zero tolerance all the way and total exclusion.  That&#039;s not always the right outcome.  After all - our whole justice system is built around case by case processes.  Why not WADA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie -</p>
<p>cocaine IS illegal.  So is speeding.</p>
<p>Sports clubs often become as if defacto parents/guardians of players often plucked from family in late teens &#8211; so what is the responsibility of a code/club to support the players involved.</p>
<p>btw &#8211; further to the AFL findings, a high proportion of those testing positive under their illicit drugs policy where found to have mental illness (whether undiagnosed or not).  This policy is assisting greatly in developing appropriate support mechanisms for people with such issues to function in such an environment.</p>
<p>If WADA had their way &#8211; - it&#8217;s zero tolerance all the way and total exclusion.  That&#8217;s not always the right outcome.  After all &#8211; our whole justice system is built around case by case processes.  Why not WADA.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arent we missing the point. Cocain is illegal. 

Sports should ban it - but maybe not ban it under the facade of being performance enhancing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arent we missing the point. Cocain is illegal. </p>
<p>Sports should ban it &#8211; but maybe not ban it under the facade of being performance enhancing.</p>
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		<title>By: El Capitan</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Capitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregg,

Your statement &quot;I was appalled and embarrassed by the treatment meted out to Wendell Sailor by the Australian rugby community, most of whom behaved like sniggering schoolboys with their class-fuelled glee over a rugby league convert being banned for nothing more than many of them were doing every weekend&quot;, do you have proof that &quot;many of them&quot; were doing this over a weekend? Besides Sailors problem was the excuse that he gave that he didn&#039;t take drugs, but then once the B sample came back admitted that yes he did.  

Actually Cocaine makes you so focused on what you are doing, so it can be defined as performance enhancing, esp if your playing a game that envolves high concentration and high energy levels.  Why else do clubbers take it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregg,</p>
<p>Your statement &#8220;I was appalled and embarrassed by the treatment meted out to Wendell Sailor by the Australian rugby community, most of whom behaved like sniggering schoolboys with their class-fuelled glee over a rugby league convert being banned for nothing more than many of them were doing every weekend&#8221;, do you have proof that &#8220;many of them&#8221; were doing this over a weekend? Besides Sailors problem was the excuse that he gave that he didn&#8217;t take drugs, but then once the B sample came back admitted that yes he did.  </p>
<p>Actually Cocaine makes you so focused on what you are doing, so it can be defined as performance enhancing, esp if your playing a game that envolves high concentration and high energy levels.  Why else do clubbers take it?</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 23:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article Greg, agree with your central argument.</description>
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		<title>By: Graeme Steel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Graeme Steel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg - I am afraid you have misrepresented my position. While you correctly represent the views of Drug Free Sport NZ that the prohibited list should be substantially reduced your extrapolation of my comments to include cocaine is wrong. 
I have not promoted the elimination of cocaine from the prohibited list. The use of a powerful stimulant (such as cocaine) prior to an event has the potential to enhance performance and, of greater concern, is arguably the most dangerous thing an athlete can take if circumstances such as dehydration and heat are added to the mix. 
Cocaine is not tested for during out of competition testing as it has no long term performance benefit and  use away from competition is therefore (arguably) none of the business of an anti-doping organisation.This is in keeping with our position but sporting organisations ignore cocaine use by their athletes at their peril if they wish to create a environment which allows the true benefits of sport to individuals and communities to win through.
Graeme Steel
Chief Executive
Drug Free Sport NZ</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg &#8211; I am afraid you have misrepresented my position. While you correctly represent the views of Drug Free Sport NZ that the prohibited list should be substantially reduced your extrapolation of my comments to include cocaine is wrong.<br />
I have not promoted the elimination of cocaine from the prohibited list. The use of a powerful stimulant (such as cocaine) prior to an event has the potential to enhance performance and, of greater concern, is arguably the most dangerous thing an athlete can take if circumstances such as dehydration and heat are added to the mix.<br />
Cocaine is not tested for during out of competition testing as it has no long term performance benefit and  use away from competition is therefore (arguably) none of the business of an anti-doping organisation.This is in keeping with our position but sporting organisations ignore cocaine use by their athletes at their peril if they wish to create a environment which allows the true benefits of sport to individuals and communities to win through.<br />
Graeme Steel<br />
Chief Executive<br />
Drug Free Sport NZ</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-2/#comment-148307</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 17:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a fair point but cocaine addiction isn&#039;t like heroine addiction. The consequences wouldn&#039;t affect a person that much. In essence one only has to be desiring the drug to be an addict.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a fair point but cocaine addiction isn&#8217;t like heroine addiction. The consequences wouldn&#8217;t affect a person that much. In essence one only has to be desiring the drug to be an addict.</p>
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		<title>By: INA</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-2/#comment-148305</link>
		<dc:creator>INA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 17:00:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you Mr. Greg Russel!
Great article obviously some of the readers here don&#039;t get that WADA is not God and their&#039;re making alot of mistakes too not to speak about their cover ups. Do you realize that WADA test are not 100% reliable?
Since the beginning of this year they&#039;ve established a threshold for cocaine 50ng/ml which means that Martina Hingis didn&#039;t even give a positive test because her result was 42ng/ml. But still she got 2 years because they&#039;ve anounced her sentence in 2008! Nonsence right?
Richard Gasquet test result is higher but still he&#039;s not guily for me. If you can drink and use a coke before a match and hide this from the rest you must be a super hero! Imagine how awful it must be to be punished for something you haven&#039;t done!
Tom Boonen is another matter the man has a problem with alcohol and cocaine for years you can&#039;t hide such thing in 21c.
He&#039;s lucky that he&#039;s a rider and not a tennis player.Cycling federation unlike the idiots from the ITF has done something right , supporting him.
As far as I know the last 3 American presidents have used cocaine and they still have been elected, and some of the readers here are talking about moral? Give me a break , please!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you Mr. Greg Russel!<br />
Great article obviously some of the readers here don&#8217;t get that WADA is not God and their&#8217;re making alot of mistakes too not to speak about their cover ups. Do you realize that WADA test are not 100% reliable?<br />
Since the beginning of this year they&#8217;ve established a threshold for cocaine 50ng/ml which means that Martina Hingis didn&#8217;t even give a positive test because her result was 42ng/ml. But still she got 2 years because they&#8217;ve anounced her sentence in 2008! Nonsence right?<br />
Richard Gasquet test result is higher but still he&#8217;s not guily for me. If you can drink and use a coke before a match and hide this from the rest you must be a super hero! Imagine how awful it must be to be punished for something you haven&#8217;t done!<br />
Tom Boonen is another matter the man has a problem with alcohol and cocaine for years you can&#8217;t hide such thing in 21c.<br />
He&#8217;s lucky that he&#8217;s a rider and not a tennis player.Cycling federation unlike the idiots from the ITF has done something right , supporting him.<br />
As far as I know the last 3 American presidents have used cocaine and they still have been elected, and some of the readers here are talking about moral? Give me a break , please!</p>
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		<title>By: Steffy</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-2/#comment-148304</link>
		<dc:creator>Steffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 16:48:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saying you are a drug addict sounds a lot better than saying you take it for a laugh occasionally. An addict doesn&#039;t just dabble occasionally they take it constantly, I doubt anybody could function as a sportsman with a cocaine addiction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saying you are a drug addict sounds a lot better than saying you take it for a laugh occasionally. An addict doesn&#8217;t just dabble occasionally they take it constantly, I doubt anybody could function as a sportsman with a cocaine addiction.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 12:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Mr.Russel. One point though, you incorrectly used an apostrophe when writing &quot;it&#039;s&quot;: 

&quot;it’s benefit would be no greater than that of, say, performing the haka or being the recipient of one of Alan Jones’s legendary pep talks&quot; 

Other than that, a sound and understanding article. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Mr.Russel. One point though, you incorrectly used an apostrophe when writing &#8220;it&#8217;s&#8221;: </p>
<p>&#8220;it’s benefit would be no greater than that of, say, performing the haka or being the recipient of one of Alan Jones’s legendary pep talks&#8221; </p>
<p>Other than that, a sound and understanding article. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 09:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt Stevens said that he was a drug addict, Steffy. Your union conspiracy theory is boring beyond words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt Stevens said that he was a drug addict, Steffy. Your union conspiracy theory is boring beyond words.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 09:39:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocaine is an interesting one - - it&#039;s normally seen as proof that a person has too much money.  

And this is where you perhaps need to compartmentalise - which WADA kind of struggles with (because, it&#039;s a blunt stick and WADA tries to apply zero tolerance).

I still look back to the Australian context and all the (lack of) debate when the Howard govt made a political issue around the AFL illicit drugs policy.  Howard et al were desperately trying to get into bed with the IOC (and the result?? being that we have an Australian head of WADA).  However, this completely confused the issues of WADA testing for performance enhancing and a separate and additional illicit drugs policy.

The facts were spartan.  However, popular opinion in some quarters liked to portray that Ben Cousins for example was &#039;on the juice&#039; as he helped the Eagles to win the 2006 GF.  Reality is, that the WADA testing - which missed A.Johns and B.Cousins - within the AFL at least target tests the top performers, and B.Cousins was the reigning club B&amp;F winner for the Eagles and they would target test the top 3 club B&amp;F winners.  Conclusion - either - A. that Cousins was NOT on the juice if the WADA (ASADA) testing was doing it&#039;s job), or B. WADA(ASADA) is only effective as a political instrument!!!

The findings of the AFL policy thus far have been interesting.  A policy aimed at putting the health and well being of the players first.  They&#039;ve found mostly cannaboids as the drug of infringement.  Mostly associated with consumption of alcohol first and mostly in the &#039;off season&#039; and the most likely time to test positive was upon returning to training from the 4 week inter season break.

Which illustrates there&#039;s a big disconnect between WADA in season or match day performance enhancing testing in the past compared to a decent and separate illicit drugs program.  Thankfully in Australia, the new Rudd govt via Kate Ellis have taken a more productive approach to this issue.  Which makes sense, given in Australia the NRL, Cricket and AFL were the sports most in question from Howard Govt &#039;pressure&#039;, and none are Olympic sports!?!?!?  Wierd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocaine is an interesting one &#8211; - it&#8217;s normally seen as proof that a person has too much money.  </p>
<p>And this is where you perhaps need to compartmentalise &#8211; which WADA kind of struggles with (because, it&#8217;s a blunt stick and WADA tries to apply zero tolerance).</p>
<p>I still look back to the Australian context and all the (lack of) debate when the Howard govt made a political issue around the AFL illicit drugs policy.  Howard et al were desperately trying to get into bed with the IOC (and the result?? being that we have an Australian head of WADA).  However, this completely confused the issues of WADA testing for performance enhancing and a separate and additional illicit drugs policy.</p>
<p>The facts were spartan.  However, popular opinion in some quarters liked to portray that Ben Cousins for example was &#8216;on the juice&#8217; as he helped the Eagles to win the 2006 GF.  Reality is, that the WADA testing &#8211; which missed A.Johns and B.Cousins &#8211; within the AFL at least target tests the top performers, and B.Cousins was the reigning club B&amp;F winner for the Eagles and they would target test the top 3 club B&amp;F winners.  Conclusion &#8211; either &#8211; A. that Cousins was NOT on the juice if the WADA (ASADA) testing was doing it&#8217;s job), or B. WADA(ASADA) is only effective as a political instrument!!!</p>
<p>The findings of the AFL policy thus far have been interesting.  A policy aimed at putting the health and well being of the players first.  They&#8217;ve found mostly cannaboids as the drug of infringement.  Mostly associated with consumption of alcohol first and mostly in the &#8216;off season&#8217; and the most likely time to test positive was upon returning to training from the 4 week inter season break.</p>
<p>Which illustrates there&#8217;s a big disconnect between WADA in season or match day performance enhancing testing in the past compared to a decent and separate illicit drugs program.  Thankfully in Australia, the new Rudd govt via Kate Ellis have taken a more productive approach to this issue.  Which makes sense, given in Australia the NRL, Cricket and AFL were the sports most in question from Howard Govt &#8216;pressure&#8217;, and none are Olympic sports!?!?!?  Wierd.</p>
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		<title>By: Steffy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steffy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 08:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cocaine can be performance enhancing although I doubt any of the sports people caught using it were doing it for any other purpose than a recreational one.

How the press reacts to it rather depends on the sport the person played. In the UK the rugby union media make great play on how much more spiffing their players are than any other sport so when one of them is caught misbehaving they either bury the story as much as they can or try to gloss over it - in todays Independent, for example, it is Matt Stevens &quot;drugs illness&quot; and at the time there were many articles written about what a great chap he is and how his drug addiction (an addiction can be turned into an illness, occasional drug usage can&#039;t so the &quot;addiction&quot; angle was quickly highlighted) was because of the pressures he was under - the fact he also runs a coffee shop in Bath got a lot of publicity too for some reason.

The Sunday Mirror today contains an article about allegations that Bath rugby union players went on a cocaine and booze bender at the end of their season. We&#039;ll see how that plays out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cocaine can be performance enhancing although I doubt any of the sports people caught using it were doing it for any other purpose than a recreational one.</p>
<p>How the press reacts to it rather depends on the sport the person played. In the UK the rugby union media make great play on how much more spiffing their players are than any other sport so when one of them is caught misbehaving they either bury the story as much as they can or try to gloss over it &#8211; in todays Independent, for example, it is Matt Stevens &#8220;drugs illness&#8221; and at the time there were many articles written about what a great chap he is and how his drug addiction (an addiction can be turned into an illness, occasional drug usage can&#8217;t so the &#8220;addiction&#8221; angle was quickly highlighted) was because of the pressures he was under &#8211; the fact he also runs a coffee shop in Bath got a lot of publicity too for some reason.</p>
<p>The Sunday Mirror today contains an article about allegations that Bath rugby union players went on a cocaine and booze bender at the end of their season. We&#8217;ll see how that plays out.</p>
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		<title>By: znotty</title>
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		<dc:creator>znotty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 08:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;New Paradigms in Free-Radical Polymerization Kinetics&quot; ....fair dinkum,you must have played half back.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;New Paradigms in Free-Radical Polymerization Kinetics&#8221; &#8230;.fair dinkum,you must have played half back.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 04:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair enough Damos.I think about these issues whenever I hear a report that for eg a player has had some ribs cracked in the first 1/2 of a game of footy and goes into the shed at 1/2 time and gets&quot; needled up &quot;. Without in any way talking about drugs as such it seems to be a bit arbitrary as to what is permissible and what is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair enough Damos.I think about these issues whenever I hear a report that for eg a player has had some ribs cracked in the first 1/2 of a game of footy and goes into the shed at 1/2 time and gets&#8221; needled up &#8220;. Without in any way talking about drugs as such it seems to be a bit arbitrary as to what is permissible and what is not.</p>
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		<title>By: damos_x</title>
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		<dc:creator>damos_x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 03:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i agree with Rob, in that couldn&#039;t affluence be considered performance enhancing, after all, a better diet, facilities, access to the latest science &amp; equipment will all enhance performance especially competing against opponents who do not have these available. people may consider this to be a facetious argument but let&#039;s examine swimming for example, where it is becoming obvious that having the better suit is proving to be the difference between otherwise finely honed athletes. so if you can do everything else but can&#039;t afford or don&#039;t have access to the better suit ? are you on a level playing field with the athlete who does, even if it all it comes down to is who you are sponsored by. on that note, is sponsorship performance enhancing ? if you had enough &amp; didn&#039;y have to work a conventional job thereby being able to train &amp; rest with complete focus on your sport, compared to an athlete who has to juggle the demands on their time of working a &#039;job&#039; as well as training, makes it all a bit unfair really doesn&#039;t it. i am not advocating unchecked use of steroids etc, but the term performance enhancing clearly needs a re-think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i agree with Rob, in that couldn&#8217;t affluence be considered performance enhancing, after all, a better diet, facilities, access to the latest science &amp; equipment will all enhance performance especially competing against opponents who do not have these available. people may consider this to be a facetious argument but let&#8217;s examine swimming for example, where it is becoming obvious that having the better suit is proving to be the difference between otherwise finely honed athletes. so if you can do everything else but can&#8217;t afford or don&#8217;t have access to the better suit ? are you on a level playing field with the athlete who does, even if it all it comes down to is who you are sponsored by. on that note, is sponsorship performance enhancing ? if you had enough &amp; didn&#8217;y have to work a conventional job thereby being able to train &amp; rest with complete focus on your sport, compared to an athlete who has to juggle the demands on their time of working a &#8216;job&#8217; as well as training, makes it all a bit unfair really doesn&#8217;t it. i am not advocating unchecked use of steroids etc, but the term performance enhancing clearly needs a re-think.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/05/17/oh-unlucky-men/comment-page-1/#comment-148131</link>
		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 May 2009 00:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, I see. Clearly then, the WADA stance has absolutely nothing to do with moral necessity. Thank you empirical evidence. Does WADA consider Mary Jane a stimulant, one wonders?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I see. Clearly then, the WADA stance has absolutely nothing to do with moral necessity. Thank you empirical evidence. Does WADA consider Mary Jane a stimulant, one wonders?</p>
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