As for Steyn and Kirchner – if you were going for new caps then at least we are getting inform players who have just climbed the summit of the toughest rugby comp in the world playing the best players. (I add yet to plant the flag but they are there). God forbid we see Rose at 15 although I wouldnt put money against it

Pietersen at full back? I’ve heard talk about Snor attempting to nudge Jaque Fourie in that direction, as well. Don’t ask me what’s wrong with Terblanche. In any case, I’m convinced that he’s going to go with Kirchner. Which means that we could potentially have a newly capped 10 and 15 debuting against the Lions…

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I would like to know if the Bulls will have their mind on the game 100% afterall a large portion of their team will surely make the Boks test lineup, Will the fringe players in the squad play harder to make the team and will those near dead certs like Habana and co take it easy as not to injure themselves because you can guarantee most if not all of of them will not be still playing in 12 years when the Lions return in 2021.
Has the hype of the Lions tour had an impact on their preparations and diverted their focus?
I guess we won’t know until Saturday / Sunday morning for those of us in NZ or on the eastern seaboard of the West Isand.

Morne Steyn Should be use as fly half because there is no other place kicking option in the team. Ruan Pienaar has only played half the S14 and Francois Steyn is injured (not to mention the worst option at 10)

SA has the talent to bag the lions without effort but dodgy selection and playing tactics by the head coach will open the door for a more even tour.

But typical of someone who is getting some of their own back pull the race card how pathetic

And drum roll please…

Lowering the score value will see the death of the drop goal, I think it’s perfectly placed.

As for the Chiefs losing oh well thats life, unlike the Bulls they don’t have the expectation to win so who is going to look the worst should they lose the Bulls or the Chiefs?

If the bulls can put a point on the board for each time broken record said “go back and read the posts” then the Chiefs are going to sweat a big one on Sat.

Pothole if you had red the darn posts you would know I have already covered this ground with BRjay!! What are you…stupid son?

I never ever denied that NZ or Australia uses them son. What i did say is that they are more widely used by the Boks and the NH teams. I have never said that they shouldn’t use them.

So before having a go Pothale go back and read threads. Because I don’t value them as much as you do and because I applaud the Boks for using them how is this contradictary. I don’t believe they are worth 3pts Pot thats it. I have said and always said while they are worth 3pts teams are stupid not to use them.
So Pot go back and actually read what I have said and stop making up absolute rubbish.
Its a lot harder to score a try than it is to kick a drop goal thats why a try is worth 5pts. But like I said many NH players and fans wouldn’t even know what a try is as they are so rare up there.

i think the only one with a Chip here is you Pothale and it is Southern Hemisphere rugby something you have an obvious disdain for. Ever since joing the roar I have noticed you are constantly thrown shots at the S14 the Tri-Nations and seen many people have taken you to task on your views but it seems only yours and the NH viewpoint is the way to go.

You’ve a little chip on your shoulder you need to remove. Cos I ain’t gonna do it for you. Targeting you? Get over yourself.

I took issue with your statement that said drop kicks are routinely booed no matter where they are. You’re wrong. Plain and simple. I watch and attend a lot more matches in NH rugby than you do, and I have rarely witnessed such a response. As my earlier post states – quite the opposite occurs. And if they’re missed, there’s great cheering by the opposition – understandably.

And if you think firing off a 50m drop goal is easy, well that says more about your understanding of the skills required in rugby than I could.

I didn’t miss the point about what you said earlier about applauding the Boks for using them. If anything that statement stands in contradiction to your later statement about them being routinely booed.

Finally, you should check the stats for this year’s S14 to see how many drop-goals were taken and by whom – it might change your point of view.

I don’t think they are that hard to get nor do many others and there has been some interesting debate on the subject recently. However you also have missed the point at the top of the thread were I applaud the Boks for using them and using them well. It seems people like yourself are targeting me for simply stating the truth that you have now just confirmed as did Temba in his little tirade that they are more valued up in the North and in SA. I didn’t think that my point was that hard to understand. Everything you are saying I have already said on the matter as have others. My only question being that why should they be worth 3 pts?
I have been to rugby matches all around the world and DGs have been met with a muted response from the team who has taken the chance especially when its missed and booed greatly by the opposition. To me it shows a team is out of ideas. I have never said I didn’t like them or the tactic its just overrated. If I wanted to watch goal scoring I’d much prefer to flick over to the EPL or the AFL where they even get awarded pts for missing goal.

Now don’t take this the wrong way Pot but maybe they fans up north like the Droppie because they don’t actually know what a try is as they are so rarely scored up there. lol

If anything last weeks semi just re-iterates to teams such as the ABs and Wallabies that they need to start using the tactic more themselves. But when they do and are successful I can already see the headlines coming from the North

They are? The drop goal is making a slow but steady comeback in recent seasons in NH rugby – to my mind. It always gets applause from the crowd. Not least the two cracking ones taken at last weekend’s H Cup final – one of them a 50m minimum kick by young fly-half Johnny Sexton of Leinster. I was at the game, and the admiration from around the ground who stood up and applauded was resounding.

I think they’re full value at 3 points – they’re not that easy to get – as N Zealanders will confirm for you – and they require a lot of skill and timing to make sure you get them between the sticks.

I assume roarers would get annoyed by this kind of posting but I also assume they actually read what people say and not twist and turn things to make someone look bad.

Go home to your hut Temba surely your rand has run out at the internet cafe for the day

I can see it now, you sitting there with an elevated heart beat, swollen red neck with steam coming out of your ears, banging away on a keyboard with discuss that someone is willing to take you on.

You have to remember for me its sticks and stones really, I just laugh and await your next rant.

Please don’t claim everyone posting on the roar is awaiting your next jab and their readiness to support your theories. Your points are often contradicting and erratic.

I think most just read your posting for the comic value, the sweet semi educated self overrated confrontational seeking ways really do add for a bit of fun… especially when I have time to play with you.

Now.. lets have it?

Its a trait of your s that I have noticed even when your replying to others.
You always seem to think that I or anyone else that doesn’t agree with you is insulting you. You also tend to only take what you want out of peoples posts and twist and turn facts to paint your post out to be more valid. When things are pointed out to you which it seems many people are afraid to do as they just get another one of your great tirades on how your post is more valid than the next.

The fact remains Temba you accused me be it directly or indirectly of saying things I never said. Its obvious you have not kept up with the progression of the threads and gone off on a tangent. I have highlighted this to you and you accuse me of a rant.
You have insinuated that I and others have said that South Africa shouldn’t be allowed to use the DG when it is far from the truth. I guess when you go back and read what was actually said you have discovered you had no valid argument in that regard. from as far as I can see I have only been pro SA and their usage of the tactic and highlighted that it is SA who generally uses the tactic and use it well.

I like how you try and paint me out to be aggresive when it is much the opposite go back and have a look son it is you who came out firing not me. But it seems like keith, matt and co you all have one thing in common. You don’t like the fact I have an opinion nor will I sugar coat things for you like mummy does.

Again my life is far to exciting to go on defensive over something as trivial as your opinion on 3 point drop goals. I fill the quit moments of my day with your overly excited comments and it puts a smile on my face.

I love how you take things way to serious and go on a rant insulting those who do not see it your way. You’re dislike of SA rugby and/or South Africans shine bright but we still deserve an opinion, even if it’s deferent from yours.

Believe me I am not defensive, I do this for fun, not because the world denies me a real voice. Now calm down, you do have valid points…from time to time. You just need to control your anger whooo saaaa.

Discussing something does not make the situation defensive, unless you feel you are?

Also Temba before getting all defensive how about scrolling up and reading the thread from the start and you will see how far off the mark you are. Noone is attacking SA and their choice to use the DG at all. It seems that is something you have pulled out of thin air.