Comments on: Springboks look to be the strongest Tri-Nations side

By: Knives Out

Knives Out — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:44:25 +0000

Paul Robinson. And I’d managed to forget all about him..

Thank you for the link.

By: ohtani's jacket,

ohtani's jacket, — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:41:53 +0000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lP0dTWRCJeQ

By: Knives Out

Knives Out — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:38:20 +0000

Tottenham Hotspurs. What video is that?

By: ohtani's jacket,

ohtani's jacket, — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 12:35:53 +0000

That Hitler video was good, but you can’t beat the Tottenham Spurs one.

By: Greg Smith

Greg Smith — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 09:38:48 +0000

Less cynically – the hearts and minds battle in the oppositions camp could involve;

- training sessions with school children (and orphans)
- visits & talks by past greats
- free kit donations to the homeless and needy
- book signings & free tickets for your granny
- the Boks could go to New Zealand & extinguish a dangerous volcano or save a cat outta tree/prevent an earthquake
- a Bok contingent could fight Bush Fires in Oz

Free Bok coaching clinics for the emerging AB’s
Free fitness sessions for the Wallaby’s

Free Saffer head doctors for the whole of New Zealand (re Choking)

Free BMT (bacon mayonnaise toasties) for New Zealand

By: Hemjay

Hemjay — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:58:34 +0000

Greg Smith. Your a few Weetbixs short of a packet there lad. If anything you do provide entertainment value.

By: Greg Smith

Greg Smith — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 08:47:26 +0000

For South Africa to terminate the Trans-Tasman final ‘syndrome’ there’d have to be a shift to TOTAL RUGBY by SARFU.

Total Rugby is not an 80 min on the field game but involves shades & varieties of the following:-
[Following NZ & Oz examples-]

1. Media ‘warfare’
Boks could dedicate 2009 to Cameron Doomadgee (an aborigini killed in police custody)
Boks could stir up New Zealand with calls for a ban of the haka etc – get creative…
Imperative to get INTERNATIONAL media dominance

2. Propaganda
Vilification of the opposition – spear tackle investigations, eye gouging allegations, claims of recklessness

3. Playing the IRB
Use the halls of the IRB to maximum benefit

4. Play the International Referee’s Committee
Launch early appeals (remember the Schalk Burger ploy by NZ)
Call for citings to thin out opposition (remember the Bismarck du Plessis ban)

5. Trial by TV camera
Employ hi-zoom technology and sports editors on cue for post match name soiling and get this out internationally
(remember Wellington)

6. South Africa could launch DRUG allegation claims at NZ or OZ (timed correctly)

7. Spying allegations

8. Use Nelson Mandela or other leading global figure to maximum pre-game effect

9. Call for a change of ball design (see new South African ball)

10. Change the color of the Bok rugby jersey to DARK GREEN

11. Suddenly manipulate venues, schedules, hotels, training facilities to unsettle.

All these and MORE, could influence the Tri Nations 2009 – so it’s tough to call …

Who will play TOTAL RUGBY best in 2009 ?

I think Australia … they’re sublimely shifty.

[Oz and NZ can count themselves lucky I'm not part of the Bok administration... I'd get VERY creative on the AB's & Wally's]

By: Jerry

Jerry — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:51:07 +0000

The thing about those stats, is that they include the most successful period in Aus vs NZ history (7-2 from 98-01) and the most successful period in NZ vs SA history (8-1 from 01-03).

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:40:08 +0000

I’ll pay that one.

By: Hemjay

Hemjay — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:38:33 +0000

Mark – I thought you were doing a pretty good job and I didn’t want to steal your thunder son

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:32:47 +0000

Hemjay – don’t you have some drying paint to watch ?

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:31:19 +0000

what it does show is that in this time period NZ and Australia are closer than thought and SA and Australia are pretty much even. It also emphasies the wood that NZ has enjoyed over SA in recent times, although I hope we are starting readdress that

By: Hemjay

Hemjay — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:30:47 +0000

Dam I never Knew the ABs had played Rhodesia and lost to them 10-8 in 1949

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:28:28 +0000

didnt think you were

By: Karlos

Karlos — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:26:59 +0000

still – it is interesting – wasnt trying to stir.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:23:44 +0000

yeah – thats what I mean. You would think the numbers were different based on the 3 nations results

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:22:54 +0000

and I might add we (Boks) were as mentioned kak from 99-03

By: Karlos

Karlos — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:22:09 +0000

that includes WC and one off tests.
it’s all matches played

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:21:15 +0000

Thats because a lot of focus is on the 3N forgetting WCs and one off tests in the same period

By: Karlos

Karlos — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:14:31 +0000

interesting stats over the last 10 years between NZ/AUS/SA.
since 1998 (wins as stated after country).

AUS & NZ have played 27 games.
NZ: 15
AUS: 12

SA & NZ have played 26 games.
NZ: 18
SA: 8

AUS & SA have played 28 games.
AUS: 14
SA: 13
(and 1 draw)

pretty interesting. I actually didnt expect it to look like that.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:07:29 +0000

actually – does anyone have access to a data source with player specific stats such as line breaks, offloads etc Would be interesting…

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:04:36 +0000

lol – no worries bru

By: Hemjay

Hemjay — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:03:36 +0000

Thanks Karlos

By: Hemjay

Hemjay — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:02:39 +0000

Sweet Mate,

I’ll check it out.
Google is bloody annoying it throws up heaps of random stuff with the odd good bit of information. You do get a lot of Wikipedia articles but you can never be 100% positive with that site.

If you find any other good sites let me know and I will vice versa
Afterall sharings caring lol

Cheers

By: Karlos

Karlos — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 06:02:12 +0000

http://www.rugbydata.com is also good.

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:56:32 +0000

Hey Hemjay -a bit of everything really (thanks Google) but for stat breakdowns and historical results you cant beat http://www.pickandgo.info/. As a stat freak I find it really informative and useful when having to quantify why a randoms comment is completely off chart

By: Hemjay

Hemjay — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:52:46 +0000

Rusty,

Where do you find all your facts and things have you got an almanac or is there a certain site your heading to?

Cheers

By: Karlos

Karlos — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:51:07 +0000

yes you may have beaten the old dart 36-0.
however we beat them 76-0 in ’98…

By: Rusty

Rusty — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:47:04 +0000

interesting facts on doughnuts – besides being deep fried dough covered in icing sugar

Last time the Wallabies were held to one was 1973 by the Welsh 0-24 at Cardiff Arms Park (cue hilarious scene of Welshmen assaulting Wallabies with actual doughnuts). Prior to that the Lions 0-31 in Brisvegas in ’66. The last doughnut at home to a national side was to SA in ’56 again at Brisbane with a score of 0-9

Last time the Boks were held to zero was in Cape Town ’08 0-19 to the ABs, the first time a national side had done that on SA soil. Not so uncommon offshore though with Karlos’s 0-49 to Australia in ’06 being next

Last time the ABs were held to zero was to a draw with Scotland at Murryfield in ’64 followed 0-13 by SA at Ellis Park in 1960. Closest to a home doughnut was in ’21 with a 0-0 draw with SA

By: Karlos

Karlos — Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:28:14 +0000

well put Rusty!

Fok Ja!