Pumas performances nearing clarity
By Alan Nicolea, 22 Jun 2009 Alan Nicolea is a Roar Guru & Live Blogger
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The Pumas have managed to consolidate their victory over England last week, defeating a French Barbarians side 32-18 in Velez to signal an end to the first half of an international calendar that will resume in November when Argentina goes on its European tour.
In their lone presentation in Buenos Aires for 2009, Los Pumas showed themselves to be rightfully superior against a Barbarians side that did not present the quality that the All Blacks and the Springboks currently find themselves against.
Regardless, it was an important match for Argentina, given the fact one of their favourite sons, Rimas Alvarez, was retiring after 44 tests for Los Pumas dating back to October 1998.
Indeed Alvarez’s last game for The Pumas had all the signs of being a memorable one throughout the majority of the first half.
Buoyed by great yardage gains from their forwards, Argentina managed to play neat Rugby, which was once again marshalled well by the ever improving kicking game of Juan Martin Hernandez.
Despite the positive signs upfront, Argentina’s backs did not display the potency that would concern their bigger, more skillful Southern Hemisphere counterparts.
As a team, the Pumas functioned well and were ably assisted midway through the first half by the sending off of Barbarians player Yannick Nyanga for a head butt on Rodrigo Roncero.
That proved to be the unbearable part of a very sour first half for the Barbarians, who were behind 20-3 courtesy of a try by Juan Manuel Leguizamon and five penalties to Hernandez.
With a victory all but sowed up, Los Pumas came out in the second half roaring, as Santiago Fernandez scored a try that was made possible by the grand play of Gonzalo Amorosino.
From then on, The Pumas held their own against an energetic, but an often disorganised Barbarians team that struggled to get past the half way mark of the field.
Indeed the icing on top of Argentina’s cake was provided by Gonzalo Camacho, as he gathered in a precise Hernandez kick to score The Pumas last try.
In a game they should have run away with, Argentina once again finished poorly, allowing the Barbarians to score two tries thanks to Tomici and Gobolet for a 32-18 scoreline.
Although the lapse in concentration did not prove costly, The Pumas would not have been so lucky if they were up against their superior southern Hemisphere opponents.
Regardless, it has been a solid start to the 2009 international season for the Pumas, which started very meekly against England in Old Trafford a few weeks ago.
Since then, the side has progressed well and will bring confidence with them to the British Isles in November where they will meet Northern Hemisphere heavyweights Wales, England and Scotland, in what will be a true test of the Pumas mantle as a potential true rugby superpower.
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June 22nd 2009 @ 8:58am
Ian Noble said | June 22nd 2009 @ 8:58am | Report comment
Virtually all the Pumas play in the NH either in the GP or the Top 14. At Quins we have Tiesi and now Camacho, known as Gonzo 1 & 2. These players in addition to bringing their skills to the GP also improve their game through playing in the professional leagues with good coaching etc helping the Pumas to be the force they are. Itsn’t it about time that the SH had Argentinas playing in their tournaments as it will help to reinforce their game and bring more players through. The present closed shop is surely a restraint on the free movement of players and also perhaps indicative of gross hyprocrisy in the SH of alot of hot air and very litttle positive action in helping the growth of Argentinian rugby.
June 22nd 2009 @ 11:05am
Alan Nicolea said | June 22nd 2009 @ 11:05am | Report comment
Ian Noble
If only you were on the IRB board my friend. Indeed i would love to see the likes of Hernandez and co. plying their trade in the super 14 for a Kiwi or Australian side. Correct if i am wrong, but didn’t French half Fredrick Michalak play for a South African team in the super 14 even though he is French? Why can’t Argentines play aswell? Only time will tell i guess.
June 22nd 2009 @ 11:14am
Justin said | June 22nd 2009 @ 11:14am | Report comment
Ian – this may help clarify what is and isnt allowed in AUS.
Provinces will be allowed to sign one “marquee” foreigner – an international who can never qualify for Australian selection because of an IRB regulation that limits players to one country representation throughout their careers.
The Australian Provinces will also be able to contract a second “developing” foreign player who has yet to represent his native country at Test, Sevens or A-team level and could qualify for the Qantas Wallabies after three years of consecutive residency, as per IRB regulations.
If a Province decides not to recruit an established overseas international, it can sign two development players.
However, the signing of two overseas Test/Sevens/A-team players will not be permitted.
Restrictions will also apply to the contract period for a foreign star, with the overseas Test/Sevens/A-team player limited to a two-year stint at any one team.
You can read more here – http://aru.rugby.com.au/news/wallabies_2008/aru_board_approves_new_foreign_player_policy,112027.html
June 22nd 2009 @ 11:24am
Alan Nicolea said | June 22nd 2009 @ 11:24am | Report comment
Justin
Thanks for the info. Really appreciate it.
June 22nd 2009 @ 7:49pm
Ian Noble said | June 22nd 2009 @ 7:49pm | Report comment
Justin
I was aware of the restraints, if the ARU are sincere they should change the rules. It is a closed shop. As rugby has to compete in the market having more foreign players might increase the interest and widen peoples horizons. Why not within the squads allow for a % of the squad to be foreigners it might put more bums on seats? The SH is very much a closed shop, very good at collaring the PI players smacks of hyprocisy. I accept that in the NH there was a dearth of professional players and there was a need to bring more international players, but as a marketing tool it has worked and is now attracting more English players to turn professional than ever before. The reliance on foreign players will reduce over time but there will always be room for the better players as they sell the rugby brand.
If you look at the U20′s, five years ago England could never compete at that level. The majority of these guys are now playing in the GP with pros from all over the world learning, boardening their horizons . The international players have raised standards and shown a different style of play. Whilst I suspect only a few will make the top level, it is an indication of not only the increasing attraction playing union for the good athletes in the NH but is also drawing more interest from young League players, who can see more money in the union game and if they make it; an exposure to the real international arena. By the way Wasps have just signed Smith (22) an England RL centre from Leed Rhinos, looks a useful player as I saw him on Saturday score an excellent try for the Rhinos against Quins RL.
June 22nd 2009 @ 8:31pm
westy said | June 22nd 2009 @ 8:31pm | Report comment
Ian Noble the problem for international rugby is that in the U/20′s we have England/NZ/Australia/Sa in the semi finals. The same old gang. It is at this level that football is able to break the stranglehold of the normal crew. Nigeria portugal on a much more regular basis. .
Italian rugby seems to have gone backwards.
japan for all its financial muscle is non competitive at any meaningful level.
Football woke up long ago that it is at this level that it is easiest to build competitive teams . Rugby still fails to do so.
June 22nd 2009 @ 8:51pm
Ian Noble said | June 22nd 2009 @ 8:51pm | Report comment
Westy
Partly agree but what you are saying is precisely my point if the SH encouraged more Pumas to play in their sphere then they would become better players and it would gradually breakdown the grip of top 4. The SH in spite of saying all the right things is not really interested it is scared that the introduction of foreign players will lessen their effectiveness. My view is exactly the opposite, the more the variety, the greater the interest, more bums on seats increases revenue and union becomes more attractive as a professional sport.
As for the smaller nations look at the IRB web site, in the last month, Pacific Nations Cup, Churchill Cup, IRB Nations Cup, JRWC in Japan (incidentially attendances roughly on a par with RLWC 2008), alot of activity across the board including Africa. Rugby will never break the power of football worldwide but it is becoming a meaningful alternative as is basketball, cricket et al
June 22nd 2009 @ 9:27pm
Working Class Rugger said | June 22nd 2009 @ 9:27pm | Report comment
Ian
You forgot the very successful JWRT held in Kenya. Rugby is quickly becoming a real alternative for those who aren’t suited to Football.
Back to Argentina. Watched the A team today against a vastly improved Canada and they were fantastic. In all the game was a great example of attacking running Rugby. In all the Churchill Cuo was great this season. Canada and the USA have emerged as the best of the rest outside the Top 10 joining Japan.
June 22nd 2009 @ 9:36pm
westy said | June 22nd 2009 @ 9:36pm | Report comment
Ian I agree about the Pumas . For instance each Super 14 team should be able to take upto say 6 Argentine/Uruguay/ Chilean/Asian players without breaching foreign player limitations or even salary cap concessions.
I do not talk of breaking the power of football simply recognising it is relatively easier to lift the standard of U/20s then the seniors. Football has seen Qatar/australia/ghana/Nigeria/Egypt/Morocco/Czech/Austria/Mali/Romania/Poland and Ireland have made the Foorball u/20 youth world cup semi finals. They may not have won it but they begin to close the skill gap.
Basically Italy losing 43 to 13 / to Fiji 20 to 14 and to SA 65 to 3 see them falling behind in a youth tournament where they should by now be closing in on the final 8.
June 22nd 2009 @ 9:54pm
Ian Noble said | June 22nd 2009 @ 9:54pm | Report comment
WCR
Yep you are quite right watching the Kenyians play 7′s at the London IRB 7′s was a joy with their colourful supporters made the day. By the way, Georgia v USA yesterday in the Churchill Cup was a cracker and was counted as a proper test with points for the IRB table.
Westy
How many of the top players of these “lower nations” play football in the leagues of the NH? Many and how standards overall have improved; look at the Socceroos. The same should happen in rugby if more players got the opportunity to play top class rugby then overall standards would improve, the SH don’t want to know!! Just playing the occasional test is not enough they need to play week in and week out.