Wallaby young guns really didn’t fire
By Spiro Zavos, 22 Jun 2009 Spiro Zavos is a Roar Expert
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David Pocock of Australia during the Australia v Italy Rugby Union game at the Ethiad Stadium in Melbourne, Saturday, June 20, 2009. Australia beat Italy 34-12. AAP Image/Martin Philbey
The Wallaby side that scored five tries in defeating Italy 34-12 was deemed to be an experimental selection. The experiment worked in that it told coach Robbie Deans a lot about some of his young guns. The problem is that the information was bad news.
The young guns didn’t really fire.
The French with their penchant for the telling phrase call the front row the ‘orchestra pit’. It’s where the basis for the rugby music is laid. As the British and Irish Lions showed in their Test against the Springboks, a team can’t be on song around the park when the front row is off-key.
The young Wallaby front row was out-played at scrum time, although all three of the youngsters were excellent around the field. Tatafu Polota-Nau’s lineout throwing was, as usual, often off target.
Summary: Deans will want his Test front row of Al Baxter, Stephen Moore and Benn Robinson to stay intact for this season’s tough matches in the Tri-Nation tournament and the Grand Slam tour at the end of the year.
The same sort of comment about the front row can be applied to the second row. Dean Mumm does not seem to have the bulk, although his statistics are impressive (1.96m, 109kg), for the second row. Peter Kimlin (1.98m, 114kg) seems better suited for the second row, rather than the side of the scrum.
Bob Dwyer used to make the point that if a player had a special talent that was rare for his position coaches should resist the temptation to play him in the more obvious position. Kimlin is very mobile for a second-rower so perhaps this is where he should be left, as the successor in due course to Nathan Sharpe as the number 4 jumper in the lineout.
David Pocock showed touches of the brutal, hard-shouldered play that is a feature of his play. But it was George Smith, playing at number 8, who got the majority of the Wallabies turnovers.
Summary: With Rocky Elsom coming back soon and Wycliff Palu and Richard Brown out injured, there is some depth in the middle and backrow positions for the next couple of years, or at least until the 2011 Rugby World Cup.
It was noticeable that Luke Burgess ran a lot more than he did in the Super 14 tournament. He is a strong runner and his breaks opened up the Italian defences. But his passing remains poor, harbour bridge floaters mainly that put his inside backs under pressure.
Advice: Do what David Kirk, a halfback of similar style to Burgess, did the summer before the 1987 Rugby World Cup tournament and practice your passing. Kirk found a big shed and set up a tyre hanging from a rope tied to the rafters and passed, passed, passed and passed balls through the tyre for hours on end.
Quade Cooper represents Australia’s version of Carlos Spencer. He is extremely gifted with his passing and running skills and his vision in setting up tries. Two of the Wallaby tries came from slick passing, one a long floater and the other a little pop-up after he snaffled a ruck ball. But, like Spencer, his defence is awful. The Italians went through Cooper’s channel as if he wasn’t actually there.
James O’Connor dropped his first ball and played most of the game without the sparkle and step of the first two games. He also cramped a bit. Is this why he wore what looked to be dress socks instead of the usual full-calf Wallaby kit socks?
I’m sure that Deans can read the signs that because he is so young and physically still immature, O’Connor needs to be handled carefully.
I noticed, for instance, that towards the end of the Super 14 season Matt Giteau’s play tended to fall away as his body began to react to all the hits and pressures imposed on it for weeks on end. O’Connor seems to be in a similar sort of position as far as his energy levels are concerned.
O’Connor is a special talent and needs to be (and will be) nurtured through the long Test season, probably coming off the bench for the most part in the tough Tri-Nations matches.
I expect Deans to pick what he expects to be his number 1 side for the Test against France in Sydney on Saturday night. The thing about experiments is that they sometimes reveal ‘known knowns’ and ‘known unknowns,’ to steal some phrases from Donald Rumsfeld.
Deans now knows, too, where his young guns stand in terms of Test play. With the exception of O’Connor, and perhaps Mumm as a flanker, none of them can be rated starter material at this stage of their careers.
But as Cooper showed against Italy last year and Ben Alexander in several Tests, they have the talent to play important cameo roles, when the big stars have made their impact.
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June 22nd 2009 @ 11:36am
retired rucker said | June 22nd 2009 @ 11:36am | Report comment
bennalong and onside,
I might have been a bit harsh and concede it probably all part of the planning but I watched France, NZ and SA go about there business and hope that Deans can bring out the controlled agression required from the forwards next week.
June 22nd 2009 @ 11:37am
Working Class Rugger said | June 22nd 2009 @ 11:37am | Report comment
I think Deans used this game to gauge where many of the younger squad member’s were at in terms of their Test playing development. Now he know where they are at and what he needs to work on.
June 22nd 2009 @ 11:54am
Peter K said | June 22nd 2009 @ 11:54am | Report comment
Jason – I agree you have to do the bread and butter of your position, and I agree that is why Moore has to start ahead of TPN. However I wish poeple like Spiro would look closely. In this game at least all his throws were straight. The missed lineouts were primarily the lifters / jumpers fault. In 2 cases they did not even lift. Only in 1 throw did TPN clearly throw too high.
Cowan being praised reminds me of the worst prop in memory playing for the Wallabies, Nick Stiles. He had all the ball playing skills and mobility like Cown. Could not scrum out of a wet paperbag. I hope these dismal days do not return.
The young guns were given a chance and barring Kimlin totally wasted it.
Yes we need mongrel and firepwoer in the forwards. We will have to wait until Elsom and Palu are back from injury. We just do not have a good enough no 8 back up.
June 22nd 2009 @ 12:05pm
Virgil said | June 22nd 2009 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
The ABs v France was one of the scrappiest and most boring games I have seen this including, including S14 games. What a snoozathon. Lucky the wallabies came on after or I might have gone into a deep slumber and missed the lions game.
June 22nd 2009 @ 12:05pm
Peter said | June 22nd 2009 @ 12:05pm | Report comment
hey sprio,
have a read of some tv expert, regarding unions poor tv ratings……………….
“Excluding news programs there were seven shows that beat the Rugby Union in it’s heartland, including such unbeatable favourites as Gardening Australia and a rerun of the kids movie Zathura.
The game is by definition included on the Anti-Siphoning Legislative Instrument which restricts Foxtel from bidding on sports rights where there is a significant national interest in the sport. Ironically with only 372,000 viewers – that’s only slightly better than Foxtel in terms of audience size – and completely pathetic in terms of Free to Air, and especially for Seven, the market leader.”
the wallabies shouls be renamed the whocareabies.
June 22nd 2009 @ 12:12pm
retired rucker said | June 22nd 2009 @ 12:12pm | Report comment
Virgil,
You might have thought AB/France was boring but with the appalling conditions and understanding the ruck I found it to be very entrtaining. Probably because my impression was that both teams didn’t take a step backwards.
There’s nothing like foul weather to level teams
June 22nd 2009 @ 12:14pm
Jameswm said | June 22nd 2009 @ 12:14pm | Report comment
That’s harsh on Polota-Nau. On several occasions his throw was perfect and no one jumped or they were disorganised. You can’t blame the hooker for that. He threw over a properly lifted jumper once.
Moore misses a lot of throws – just as many – but because he doesn’t have the same reputation it gets glossed over. Overall though, they’re both fantastic.
Cooper was useless – I don’t see where Deans is coming from with him.
June 22nd 2009 @ 12:19pm
Blinky Bill of Bellingen said | June 22nd 2009 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Chaps floods have hit here yet again. Bugger me I’m sick to death of it all!
I only got to see a small part of Saturday nights Wallaby test before a power failure. At this stage I’m flooded in and cut off but for the internet.
So I’m loving reading all of this “Rubbish” or not, keep it coming.
June 22nd 2009 @ 12:27pm
onside said | June 22nd 2009 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
retired rucker
never took it as harsh mate.I always try to imagine ‘you’ are in the pub having a beer with
me ,and having this type of conversation. Sometimes its a challenge getting the spirit and
tone of a message across in printed form.
As a matter of interest ,which country is best served by Test warm ups. France that has
two flogfests in eight days against New Zealand ( NZ has had the luxury of spare players)
or Australia, that has tinkered around the edges of Test rugby in two soft games against Italy .
A very fresh Australia play a pummelled France .(A pity really ,third hard Test in 15 days)
And Italy travel to New Zealand for further humiliation.
June 22nd 2009 @ 12:35pm
MikeN said | June 22nd 2009 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
Deans has been continually saying that there is no expereince like being on the field in a test match. He did not pick them on their body of work so far but on their potential and would not have expected any of the newer guys to absolutely slay them at this stage. If one or two of them had performed brilliantly it would have been a bonus.
I believe these guys will now be under the pump because he will be looking to see what they do with the experience afforded them, whether they have added to their capabilities from here on.
I wouldn’t say any of them failed on Saturday, each showed some of what they were capable of and each showed where they need to improve. And while doing that we did not lose the test. I was there (in the crowd) when the Wallabies lost to Tonga many years ago, so I do not take wins against lower ranked teams for granted.
So overall I believe Saturday was a success and how much of a success will be determined by how far these new guys go from here.