Comments on: Let the All Whites enjoy their moment in the fun

By: Cpaaa

Cpaaa — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 00:29:27 +0000

NZ having 7 wellington players in its squad and coached by herbert youd think the team would have a better understanding of one another. Yet the performances i saw looked as if they were put together over a weekend camp. I like Herbert but 7international kiwis and to finish 6 from 8 in the HAL last year, asks the question
1) is NZ players really that bad? and
2) the coaching ability of Ricki Herbert?
20 years coaching experience dont mean much if its only ever been in NZ.

By: dasilva

dasilva — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 18:04:11 +0000

Midfielder
I think you misunderstood the point that Craig Foster was making. I think the point was that not that people in NEw Zealand didn’t know that they are lacking in technical skill. What Craig Foster point was that it would be better if they sacked Herbert and appoint a foreign coach and that would only happen if New Zealand get flogged by Iraq. That they have a better chance of qualifying with another coach and this draw with Iraq will keep Herbert at the job to the detriment of New Zealand Football.

However I’m not too sure whether this interpretation of his comments is any better or reflects Foster in a positive light.

It was very harsh

By: Midfielder

Midfielder — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:50:07 +0000

Ben

A line in your article just makes me laugh … if you read NZ papers and read their bloggs they are very aware of their lack of technical skill … along with other problems they have in football like funding / media/ RU dominance of NZ…

Just take my word for it they are cruelty aware of their shortcomings … thus the reason for the reaction after the draw..

What made me split my pants with laughter was Fozza in deep and series voice … get grave concern on face and say … listen to it … like no one knows … and this is a huge announcement of a hitherto to unknown fact …. “”" SBS commentator Craig Foster claimed he thought the 0-0 draw meant the New Zealanders would ‘gloss’ over their failures in the tournament ahead of their difficult World Cup qualifying intercontinental playoff later in the year against either Bahrain or Saudi Arabia.”"”"

At least the TerrOR are up front and can change the story line every now and then …

By: westy

westy — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 13:30:30 +0000

Dasilva I would always have to support the Kiwis against anyone except Australia. I am glad we are in Asian Federation but that does not mean we should throw the baby out with the bathwater. The ties that bind to the Kiwis are more than cultural. i cannot forget that connection. Well done to the All Whites.

By: Dublin Dave

Dublin Dave — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 06:13:48 +0000

GeneralAshnak

Mr is right. There is no way FIFA would allow a participating team to indulge in such a show of provocation before a soccer match.

That sort of stuff is for the fans.

By: GeneralAshnak

GeneralAshnak — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:40:07 +0000

Actually just relised I said nothing about the article! NZ deserved their celebration. This was a first for them. By breaking their duck it lets them know they can achieve, knowledge of that achievement will allow them to reach for the next goal. The mental battle is half the fight, look at us in the 2006 WC! We looked to be going the same way as last time, no goals and an early exit. Then along came Cahill and snatched a goal – then bam! bam! We were up 3-1 and not only had we scored our first WC goal but won our first WC match! The belief that win would have instilled in the Socceroos cannot be doubted, without it I seriously doubt we would have done anywhere near as well as we did.

By: Mr

Mr — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:39:33 +0000

I’m not sure FIFA would allow a Hakka inside the stadium…

By: GeneralAshnak

GeneralAshnak — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 03:36:18 +0000

NZ football needs to convince Maoris to start playing the game. Would love to see a NZ football team perform a Hakka before a match!

By: Captain Random

Captain Random — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:00:29 +0000

The fact that Iraq could outplay Australia with their eyes closed (but as we saw in Brisbane, that doesn’t always translate into victory) but can’t beat New Zealand or Qatar suggests that they can’t find the kind of motivation necessary to perform at the top level in every game. I wonder how much of their success was down to Jorvan Vieira.

By: Pippinu

Pippinu — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:58:42 +0000

Recalling our recent losses to Iraq (3-1 in the Asian Cup, and from memory, 2-1 at the Olympics), let the NZers enjoy their breakthrough point.

Does anyone doubt that the Socceroos of 1974 didn’t enjoy their first point in WC history from a final group game nil-all draw agaisnt Chile, despite still finishing bottom and not scroing a goal??

By: dasilva

dasilva — Wed, 24 Jun 2009 00:01:20 +0000

I was supporting Iraq as they are from the AFC and their performance didn’t exactly gave the Asian Confederation and hence us a good name. I wonder what the hell happen to them.

I get the feeling that maybe Iraq aren’t a great team as shown by their results against Qatar and New Zealand and it’s a shock to see Iraq struggle against other sides and then see them outplay Australia. Perhaps they are only a great team playing against Australia as Australia are probably there main rivals in Asia (along with Iran and Kuwait) due to the politics involve (I believe everytime they play Australia they get pumped up and are very determine to beat us).

I would have loved to see Iraq being in the same group as USA and could conceivingly see Iraqi giving the USA the same shock as they gave us.

By: Brian

Brian — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:23:29 +0000

Let them celebrate. After all we played Iraq three time at nuetral venues, 2004 Olympics, 2007 Asian Cup and 2008 in a WCQ and we lost all three. At least they got a draw.

By: Cpaaa

Cpaaa — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:03:49 +0000

Brian i dont think its ever too late for change, All Blacks will always be the jewel of the nation so unlike Basketball and Netball
the All Whites choose to wear..all white. In international football i cant think of any nation that wear all black as their home strip.
All Blacks Football will be more on par with NZ colours and in the same brand as the All Blacks, instead of trying to be different in their home country. Thats the part i dont understand.

By: Brian Munich

Brian Munich — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 22:42:41 +0000

They’ve been All Whites for about 30 years, Cpaaa, so I don’t think they’re about to change now. And in any case, they share the unfortunate Aussie tradition of wanting to allocate a different epithet to each of their national teams – so it’s “Tall Blacks” for the basketballers, “Silver Ferns” for the netballers and so on.

Ben, to suggest “both nations were in similar circumstances a decade or so ago” is stretching it a bit. The Kiwis were at their strongest relative to us in the 80s, but apart from that embarrassing loss when we fielded a 4th XI a few years back, NZ has not really been in the same league at national team level since the early 90s.

By: Cpaaa

Cpaaa — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 21:50:35 +0000

the black sheep of world football. Watching that match i couldnt help but pray for a kiwi victory, i dont know why? yet i was frustrated at their style of play.

No wins ever in the confederation cup
Always Last
Defensive clean sheet in the last game, awarded first point.
Pop the champers bro, we did it!
got love our kiwi neighbors.

? but whats with the All Whites. They look so much better in All Black.
Instead of dressing like middle eastern countries NZ should be looking to emulate their kiwi brothers.
Name change… “All Blacks Football” sounds so much better than All Whites, which sounds like a cult from Missisippi.