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	<title>Comments on: Giteau and Smith guide Wallabies to victory over France</title>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:45:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree this was a solid performance by Wallabies. That is partly a credit to the French, who truly are a world-class side, despite their very different style.

The French were aggressive in the first half, but grew more patchy as the game went on. Its not just the hard season, they also have a hoodoo about the Wallabies. Their best chance to beat Australia was at Stade Francais last year, so winning here was always going to be difficult.

Good to see the French giving the Australians a lesson in counter-rucking – hopefully Wallabies will learn from it. 

Sharpe had his best game in years, but mustn’t forget he is always workmanlike. Not brilliant, but plays at the same intensity for the full 80 minutes. 

Agree with plaudits for Robinson – an excellent game, and the forwards are underrated when it comes to man-of-the-match. Alexander has a lot of work to do – I wonder if Guy Shepherdson should be given another run?

Once again, the Ref&#039;s scrum-setting was mediocre at best. Al Baxter IS a different player after Deans and Foley. Refs performance so far this season has been poor and they are the ones who need to lift their game.

Our tactical kicking was all over the place. If this is a one-off weakness, then we can live with it, but if not…

I too don’t understand the criticism of Burgess. He has his own style, almost a league style, and it is now clear why Deans has persisted with him for so long. RWC: spot on re Burgess’ hit on the French prop – this man has no respect for size.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree this was a solid performance by Wallabies. That is partly a credit to the French, who truly are a world-class side, despite their very different style.</p>
<p>The French were aggressive in the first half, but grew more patchy as the game went on. Its not just the hard season, they also have a hoodoo about the Wallabies. Their best chance to beat Australia was at Stade Francais last year, so winning here was always going to be difficult.</p>
<p>Good to see the French giving the Australians a lesson in counter-rucking – hopefully Wallabies will learn from it. </p>
<p>Sharpe had his best game in years, but mustn’t forget he is always workmanlike. Not brilliant, but plays at the same intensity for the full 80 minutes. </p>
<p>Agree with plaudits for Robinson – an excellent game, and the forwards are underrated when it comes to man-of-the-match. Alexander has a lot of work to do – I wonder if Guy Shepherdson should be given another run?</p>
<p>Once again, the Ref&#8217;s scrum-setting was mediocre at best. Al Baxter IS a different player after Deans and Foley. Refs performance so far this season has been poor and they are the ones who need to lift their game.</p>
<p>Our tactical kicking was all over the place. If this is a one-off weakness, then we can live with it, but if not…</p>
<p>I too don’t understand the criticism of Burgess. He has his own style, almost a league style, and it is now clear why Deans has persisted with him for so long. RWC: spot on re Burgess’ hit on the French prop – this man has no respect for size.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tis interesting that the rugby league is finding a upwards swing in popularity for Sunday afternoon games .... but differing markets I suppose being that is happening at suburban grounds. Also the afternoon games makes for better handling and a more open game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tis interesting that the rugby league is finding a upwards swing in popularity for Sunday afternoon games &#8230;. but differing markets I suppose being that is happening at suburban grounds. Also the afternoon games makes for better handling and a more open game.</p>
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		<title>By: True Tah</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Tah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo

you could play games on sunday afternoons.

Look at South Africa, they rarely have night tests.  Going to a game in SA is so much differant, its like going to a college football game in the US, with people having braais and beers before and after the game in the carpark, dissecting what happened, kids kicking and passing rugby balls around.  Argentina is the same as South Africa.  Maybe Australians are differant, as you dont find that sort of atmosphere at NRL or HAL games either (maybe AFL in Melbourne/Adelaide/Perth you might find it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo</p>
<p>you could play games on sunday afternoons.</p>
<p>Look at South Africa, they rarely have night tests.  Going to a game in SA is so much differant, its like going to a college football game in the US, with people having braais and beers before and after the game in the carpark, dissecting what happened, kids kicking and passing rugby balls around.  Argentina is the same as South Africa.  Maybe Australians are differant, as you dont find that sort of atmosphere at NRL or HAL games either (maybe AFL in Melbourne/Adelaide/Perth you might find it).</p>
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		<title>By: Bay35Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bay35Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats TT.

Agree on the SFS, but the ARU has probably stitched itself up with a deal with Homebush for years and stuffed their options.

Similarly with day tests, the TV deal probably requires this as the ratings will be better at night. Crowds might also drop with blokes playing club rugby, but I seem to recall rounds being delayed sometimes when day tests were on. Ah the good ole days ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats TT.</p>
<p>Agree on the SFS, but the ARU has probably stitched itself up with a deal with Homebush for years and stuffed their options.</p>
<p>Similarly with day tests, the TV deal probably requires this as the ratings will be better at night. Crowds might also drop with blokes playing club rugby, but I seem to recall rounds being delayed sometimes when day tests were on. Ah the good ole days &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: True Tah</title>
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		<dc:creator>True Tah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pablo

the crowd was 43K.

The ARU should really be scheduling these games for SFS in future, it would have been a sellout there.

Better still, have the game on a sunday afternoon...why does the ARU insist on having every test match at night time...after watching the boks v lions, surely there is plenty of merit in playing games in the day time?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pablo</p>
<p>the crowd was 43K.</p>
<p>The ARU should really be scheduling these games for SFS in future, it would have been a sellout there.</p>
<p>Better still, have the game on a sunday afternoon&#8230;why does the ARU insist on having every test match at night time&#8230;after watching the boks v lions, surely there is plenty of merit in playing games in the day time?</p>
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		<title>By: Bay35Pablo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bay35Pablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 22:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What was the crowd? I have not seen one article that said what it was (at least in Fairfax). I took this as being it must have been OK, given they usually don&#039;t need much excuse to whinge about those things. it looked about 50K to me.

I didn&#039;t go because I expected it to be a 2nd rate French side, kicked myself when they knocked off the ABs and it looked like it would be a good test, had to knock back free tickets on the Friday through work as I had something on Saturday, and then was satisfied I didn&#039;t go because the game turned out to be insipid. And I&#039;d say that was a common tale, resulting it whatever the crowd was.

The ARU takes the fans for granted. This is what happens. it&#039;s not rocket science.

I notice everyone talked up origin 2 as having a great crowd of 80K. it wasn&#039;t a sell out, for league&#039;s biggest game but was considered a success. if rugby had 80K for the bledisloe we&#039;d be wondering why it didn&#039;t sell out.  Different perspectives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What was the crowd? I have not seen one article that said what it was (at least in Fairfax). I took this as being it must have been OK, given they usually don&#8217;t need much excuse to whinge about those things. it looked about 50K to me.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t go because I expected it to be a 2nd rate French side, kicked myself when they knocked off the ABs and it looked like it would be a good test, had to knock back free tickets on the Friday through work as I had something on Saturday, and then was satisfied I didn&#8217;t go because the game turned out to be insipid. And I&#8217;d say that was a common tale, resulting it whatever the crowd was.</p>
<p>The ARU takes the fans for granted. This is what happens. it&#8217;s not rocket science.</p>
<p>I notice everyone talked up origin 2 as having a great crowd of 80K. it wasn&#8217;t a sell out, for league&#8217;s biggest game but was considered a success. if rugby had 80K for the bledisloe we&#8217;d be wondering why it didn&#8217;t sell out.  Different perspectives.</p>
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		<title>By: bulldog</title>
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		<dc:creator>bulldog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 04:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am very happy to see all the humble pie being eaten on this site with respect to Sharpe. Pocock also very good when he was on. Smith is a freak. Is this the end for Phil Waugh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am very happy to see all the humble pie being eaten on this site with respect to Sharpe. Pocock also very good when he was on. Smith is a freak. Is this the end for Phil Waugh?</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he stays relatively injury free then my guess, based on 10 - 11 tests per year, plus the RWC, would be bewteen 150 - 170 ..... quite an extraordinary achievement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he stays relatively injury free then my guess, based on 10 &#8211; 11 tests per year, plus the RWC, would be bewteen 150 &#8211; 170 &#8230;.. quite an extraordinary achievement.</p>
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		<title>By: Knives Out</title>
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		<dc:creator>Knives Out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How many caps will George Smith collect? I don&#039;t think it would an outrageous suggestion to offer that potentially he could garner close to 150.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How many caps will George Smith collect? I don&#8217;t think it would an outrageous suggestion to offer that potentially he could garner close to 150.</p>
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		<title>By: Bailey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bailey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually enjoyed watching this game more then the atrocious AB&#039;s! I have to admit im afraid of whats to come with the Wallabies they&#039;re looking oh so good at the moment. Their defence was superb and against a strong side like France its def something they should be proud of! I&#039;ve stated in the past how much i wanted Robbie to coach the AB&#039;s, now im wishing for it more so now then ever before! The same players from last year look mighty good, and when one gets injured another mofo pops up, i just can&#039;t help but wonder what deans&#039; philosophy would have been like if he placed the same ethos with the AB&#039;s. Oh to dream!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually enjoyed watching this game more then the atrocious AB&#8217;s! I have to admit im afraid of whats to come with the Wallabies they&#8217;re looking oh so good at the moment. Their defence was superb and against a strong side like France its def something they should be proud of! I&#8217;ve stated in the past how much i wanted Robbie to coach the AB&#8217;s, now im wishing for it more so now then ever before! The same players from last year look mighty good, and when one gets injured another mofo pops up, i just can&#8217;t help but wonder what deans&#8217; philosophy would have been like if he placed the same ethos with the AB&#8217;s. Oh to dream!!</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Kidd</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Kidd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have knocked Sharpe&#039;s performances a lot but he did have a good game. Burgess went well guys, get off his back. In the backs I thought Mortlock performed the worst and in the forwards Mumm was the worst. Benn Robinson is a freak at 1 and Smith is a freak at 7 .... imho smith is now better than McCaw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have knocked Sharpe&#8217;s performances a lot but he did have a good game. Burgess went well guys, get off his back. In the backs I thought Mortlock performed the worst and in the forwards Mumm was the worst. Benn Robinson is a freak at 1 and Smith is a freak at 7 &#8230;. imho smith is now better than McCaw.</p>
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		<title>By: tarpo</title>
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		<dc:creator>tarpo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 11:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best game I have ever seen from Sharpie, he ran to the line with purpose &amp; looked to offload with nearly every ball!!!
He has clearly been reading the posts on the Roar! If he keeps improving at this rate I am more than happy for him to be in the team long term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best game I have ever seen from Sharpie, he ran to the line with purpose &amp; looked to offload with nearly every ball!!!<br />
He has clearly been reading the posts on the Roar! If he keeps improving at this rate I am more than happy for him to be in the team long term.</p>
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		<title>By: OldManEmu</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldManEmu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done Sharpey. I hope all his baggers on the Roar are tucking into a great big slice of pie right now.</description>
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		<title>By: Jameswm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jameswm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 09:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes PK you noticed the throwing but no one else did!</description>
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		<title>By: Even looser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even looser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 08:13:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree that refs may be guilty of fronting up to the game with preconceived ideas about Big Al.

Maybe he needs a big tick &amp; stamp on his forehead saying &#039;qualified at the Foley School of Scrum&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree that refs may be guilty of fronting up to the game with preconceived ideas about Big Al.</p>
<p>Maybe he needs a big tick &amp; stamp on his forehead saying &#8216;qualified at the Foley School of Scrum&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:22:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get the feeling ref&#039;s particularly NH refs see him as a bit of a game player in the scrum. Which goes to show that those who ref the game never played in the front row. The whole idea is to gain the advantage over your opposite. In a professional era physically there shouldn&#039;t be a big strength difference regardless of body shape. So technique and &#039;nous&#039; ( cunning) come into play. But Baxter big problem stems from his years of mediocrity in the scrummage under Eddie Jones. He has improved greatly over the past 3 years and has become a solid international tighthead not great and there are several better but solid. To be truthful our dominant scrum has all to do with the short little fat fella in loosehead. So he&#039;s good. And I think TH is solid at the moment. 

I firmly believe that the TH position will become a much stronger position for Australia in the future too. There is clearly future planning in place this season with Alexander and Cowan been given a run at tighthead. Neither are there yet but they need the experience to get there. Plus we also have Sekope Kepu who didn&#039;t play alot of S14 this year but will feature next season. He be all the better for working with Michael Foley at the Tahs and if or when Rodney Blake returns from his scrummaging lessons in France we should be pretty deep in the position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get the feeling ref&#8217;s particularly NH refs see him as a bit of a game player in the scrum. Which goes to show that those who ref the game never played in the front row. The whole idea is to gain the advantage over your opposite. In a professional era physically there shouldn&#8217;t be a big strength difference regardless of body shape. So technique and &#8216;nous&#8217; ( cunning) come into play. But Baxter big problem stems from his years of mediocrity in the scrummage under Eddie Jones. He has improved greatly over the past 3 years and has become a solid international tighthead not great and there are several better but solid. To be truthful our dominant scrum has all to do with the short little fat fella in loosehead. So he&#8217;s good. And I think TH is solid at the moment. </p>
<p>I firmly believe that the TH position will become a much stronger position for Australia in the future too. There is clearly future planning in place this season with Alexander and Cowan been given a run at tighthead. Neither are there yet but they need the experience to get there. Plus we also have Sekope Kepu who didn&#8217;t play alot of S14 this year but will feature next season. He be all the better for working with Michael Foley at the Tahs and if or when Rodney Blake returns from his scrummaging lessons in France we should be pretty deep in the position.</p>
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		<title>By: retired rucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>retired rucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Happy to concede on Burgess, as Peter K mentioned none of my observations are personal either. 

I do think that it is much better to be at the game to judge positional play as it is not possible from tv coverage. I&#039;ve always wondered if they can put an overhaed shot in the corner of the screen so rugby nuts can observe the whole spectacle.

What I&#039;d like to know from fellow Roarers is do they think TH is solid at the moment, I think there is plenty room for improvement here and I think Baxter legacy causes isuues with the ref.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Happy to concede on Burgess, as Peter K mentioned none of my observations are personal either. </p>
<p>I do think that it is much better to be at the game to judge positional play as it is not possible from tv coverage. I&#8217;ve always wondered if they can put an overhaed shot in the corner of the screen so rugby nuts can observe the whole spectacle.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;d like to know from fellow Roarers is do they think TH is solid at the moment, I think there is plenty room for improvement here and I think Baxter legacy causes isuues with the ref.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:43:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah and Burgess&#039;s defence is first rate. The hit against SBW in the Baa Baas game and then the beaut he put on the French Prop last dislodging the ball. How embarassing for that boy. As a Prop there is nothing sweeter than smashing a Half Back and nothing more humilating than being smashed by one. Thankl god it never happened to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah and Burgess&#8217;s defence is first rate. The hit against SBW in the Baa Baas game and then the beaut he put on the French Prop last dislodging the ball. How embarassing for that boy. As a Prop there is nothing sweeter than smashing a Half Back and nothing more humilating than being smashed by one. Thankl god it never happened to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s always criticism toward Burgess over the speed of his delivery. But more often than not he has to fight for the ball in the ruck. But what I noticed last night that he also gives the team another option than a sniping half back. He also can and did act as another attacking ball runner hitting the line in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s always criticism toward Burgess over the speed of his delivery. But more often than not he has to fight for the ball in the ruck. But what I noticed last night that he also gives the team another option than a sniping half back. He also can and did act as another attacking ball runner hitting the line in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bennalong - I agree. I was at the game as well. Burgess covers an enormous amount of ground and the attack fell off when Valentine came on. Most of the time that the ball was slow was because it was trapped OR Mortlock has called a piggy run and the little piggies take more time to be ready and braced for a smashing.
Bugess had 1 poor pass that was his fault. The others were because his arm was hit by the French. He did run sideways a few times but on most of them he straightened up and run for a gap keeping them in 2 minds. Far better than Gregan.

Jameswm - Thats not fair I noted above how Moores first throw was way too high and TPN got caned for just 1 mistake.
Burgess defense was comparable to a loosies.

Worlds Biggest - Sharpe having a good game is great, yes I am a knocker but I have nothing personal against him and I am happy for him to be in the team if he is delivering which he is now. I hope he is not like Mark Waugh and does enough when his spot is under jeopordy but keeps performing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bennalong &#8211; I agree. I was at the game as well. Burgess covers an enormous amount of ground and the attack fell off when Valentine came on. Most of the time that the ball was slow was because it was trapped OR Mortlock has called a piggy run and the little piggies take more time to be ready and braced for a smashing.<br />
Bugess had 1 poor pass that was his fault. The others were because his arm was hit by the French. He did run sideways a few times but on most of them he straightened up and run for a gap keeping them in 2 minds. Far better than Gregan.</p>
<p>Jameswm &#8211; Thats not fair I noted above how Moores first throw was way too high and TPN got caned for just 1 mistake.<br />
Burgess defense was comparable to a loosies.</p>
<p>Worlds Biggest &#8211; Sharpe having a good game is great, yes I am a knocker but I have nothing personal against him and I am happy for him to be in the team if he is delivering which he is now. I hope he is not like Mark Waugh and does enough when his spot is under jeopordy but keeps performing.</p>
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		<title>By: Jameswm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jameswm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:06:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one else has mentioned it...

How good is Burgess&#039;s defence?  His passing was better, his snipes were closely watched, but he is incredible under the high ball and in defence.  Don&#039;t forget this when analysing him.

Funny how people notice the one bad throw TPN did but gloss over Moore&#039;s ones.

Agree Sharpe was better than usual - I&#039;d still like to see them bringing a younger one along though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one else has mentioned it&#8230;</p>
<p>How good is Burgess&#8217;s defence?  His passing was better, his snipes were closely watched, but he is incredible under the high ball and in defence.  Don&#8217;t forget this when analysing him.</p>
<p>Funny how people notice the one bad throw TPN did but gloss over Moore&#8217;s ones.</p>
<p>Agree Sharpe was better than usual &#8211; I&#8217;d still like to see them bringing a younger one along though.</p>
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		<title>By: Worlds Biggest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Worlds Biggest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agree with all that it was a solid win against good opposition. Sharpe once again delivered a big game which will disappoint his many knockers out there. Smith had his usual superb game, Mumm was MIA again and I don&#039;t think is up to it at this level. Brown has a good work rate and is a solid player, not a game breaker but certainly puts in. Great hit on French piggie who stayed down for a few minutes. Overall the Pack went pretty well and will get better when Elsom returns. It wasn&#039;t a game for the backs to shine really. Back three all solid again, AAC is becoming a very good fullback but needs to work on kicking game. Mortlock quiet, Barnes busy but the star was Giteau last night. Burgess still mucks around at the base a bit but better game from him. I enjoyed the game but disappointed with the crowd. JON should be lambasted for the poor crowd, will the ARU ever promote any of there events ??.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree with all that it was a solid win against good opposition. Sharpe once again delivered a big game which will disappoint his many knockers out there. Smith had his usual superb game, Mumm was MIA again and I don&#8217;t think is up to it at this level. Brown has a good work rate and is a solid player, not a game breaker but certainly puts in. Great hit on French piggie who stayed down for a few minutes. Overall the Pack went pretty well and will get better when Elsom returns. It wasn&#8217;t a game for the backs to shine really. Back three all solid again, AAC is becoming a very good fullback but needs to work on kicking game. Mortlock quiet, Barnes busy but the star was Giteau last night. Burgess still mucks around at the base a bit but better game from him. I enjoyed the game but disappointed with the crowd. JON should be lambasted for the poor crowd, will the ARU ever promote any of there events ??.</p>
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		<title>By: bennalong</title>
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		<dc:creator>bennalong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 05:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Building beautifully, is what I&#039;d say. Contrary to some criticisms above, I was at the game and I thought speed to the breakdown and the numbers, were both up. Impressively. 

The enthusiasm of the team is noticeable and criticising individuals becomes pointless unless they make glaring errors. Robbie Deans&#039; rotations will sort out anyone who isn&#039;t on form, but this was a creditable TEAM performance and &#039;Mumm was there&#039;!

I love to agree with so many above that Nathan Sharpe needs a big rap. The big lumbering foreward was replaced by an enthusiastically coordinated player that suggested he needed to be swabbed.
He wanted that ball!
Never thought I&#039;d see it!

Ben Robinson was great and Brown lived up to his promise and put in a huge effort.

Burgess owns his position and puts doubt into the opposition like no other. He covers a huge amount of ground defensively and reads the game like a wizard. His box-kicking has improved, and his long pass is also getting there, literally.To the knockers, compare how things happen before and after Valentine comes on [who is in your critical accountants minds better at the basics.] The tenor and urgency of the attack diminishes
The slow ball comes when Burgess CAN&#039;T get the ball out quickly. He reimposes HIS will on the opposition.

Get behind a team that is ,so far, aiming higher and achieving higher under Robbie Deans.
Bugger the World Cup. Watch the enthusiasm now and enjoy it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Building beautifully, is what I&#8217;d say. Contrary to some criticisms above, I was at the game and I thought speed to the breakdown and the numbers, were both up. Impressively. </p>
<p>The enthusiasm of the team is noticeable and criticising individuals becomes pointless unless they make glaring errors. Robbie Deans&#8217; rotations will sort out anyone who isn&#8217;t on form, but this was a creditable TEAM performance and &#8216;Mumm was there&#8217;!</p>
<p>I love to agree with so many above that Nathan Sharpe needs a big rap. The big lumbering foreward was replaced by an enthusiastically coordinated player that suggested he needed to be swabbed.<br />
He wanted that ball!<br />
Never thought I&#8217;d see it!</p>
<p>Ben Robinson was great and Brown lived up to his promise and put in a huge effort.</p>
<p>Burgess owns his position and puts doubt into the opposition like no other. He covers a huge amount of ground defensively and reads the game like a wizard. His box-kicking has improved, and his long pass is also getting there, literally.To the knockers, compare how things happen before and after Valentine comes on [who is in your critical accountants minds better at the basics.] The tenor and urgency of the attack diminishes<br />
The slow ball comes when Burgess CAN&#8217;T get the ball out quickly. He reimposes HIS will on the opposition.</p>
<p>Get behind a team that is ,so far, aiming higher and achieving higher under Robbie Deans.<br />
Bugger the World Cup. Watch the enthusiasm now and enjoy it!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dexter - I said that Sharpe had his best game in years. He played very well. Only 2 real mistakes, one where he did not pass the ball with an overlap and another where he dropped the ball with a try on outside him.
His line out was very good. He is the obvious general. He actually made hard runs, made the advantage line several times. He did not do the hard work in defense in tight and was a bit wide for my liking but that may be under Deans directions so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

I would drop Mumm for Kimlin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dexter &#8211; I said that Sharpe had his best game in years. He played very well. Only 2 real mistakes, one where he did not pass the ball with an overlap and another where he dropped the ball with a try on outside him.<br />
His line out was very good. He is the obvious general. He actually made hard runs, made the advantage line several times. He did not do the hard work in defense in tight and was a bit wide for my liking but that may be under Deans directions so I gave him the benefit of the doubt.</p>
<p>I would drop Mumm for Kimlin.</p>
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		<title>By: mattamkII</title>
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		<dc:creator>mattamkII</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:20:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>anyone notice the work rate of the French loose head? he was farking everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyone notice the work rate of the French loose head? he was farking everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: retired rucker</title>
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		<dc:creator>retired rucker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 04:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A solid win, the boys should be proud.

Peter K, your comments re  Sharpe in previous posts made me change the way I watched that game, from a more detached and anyltical position than normal. I thought he played brilliantly in this game and after smith deserved MOM. I hope he keeeps improving and I noted he did&#039;nt get dragged but Horwil did. I assume this is because he is a leader in the pack. I also reckon he made the most tackles of any forward.

Room for Improvement:

My other observations where:
 Mumm needs to be given a wakeup in club rugby, was he on the field?

TH is still an issue although I thought the ref was a bit harsh, how many of the scrumswhere actually contested 3?, as an ex 5 this is extremely disapointing as it ruins the spectacle and cobativiness of the game. I think trestles rep will never change and as a result he will always be a liability wrt too the ref.

Half Back is another issue, in the second half Burgess made his only pass that was crisp and flat without taking a step. His running and passing are well read/telegraphed to the oppo. I&#039;m not sure why he waits for the opp defence to form up 80% of the time he passes, he is frighteningly Greganesque. They must train this because the excuse of disruption is not available after this game. The AB&#039;s and BOK will have his game well sussed by TN&#039;s.

Would&#039;ve been great to see Stirlo hold onto that ball, he would be pissed with himself.

Anyway I reckon the Wallas are going to be very competitive, time to start getting some odds off my Kiwi buddies!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A solid win, the boys should be proud.</p>
<p>Peter K, your comments re  Sharpe in previous posts made me change the way I watched that game, from a more detached and anyltical position than normal. I thought he played brilliantly in this game and after smith deserved MOM. I hope he keeeps improving and I noted he did&#8217;nt get dragged but Horwil did. I assume this is because he is a leader in the pack. I also reckon he made the most tackles of any forward.</p>
<p>Room for Improvement:</p>
<p>My other observations where:<br />
 Mumm needs to be given a wakeup in club rugby, was he on the field?</p>
<p>TH is still an issue although I thought the ref was a bit harsh, how many of the scrumswhere actually contested 3?, as an ex 5 this is extremely disapointing as it ruins the spectacle and cobativiness of the game. I think trestles rep will never change and as a result he will always be a liability wrt too the ref.</p>
<p>Half Back is another issue, in the second half Burgess made his only pass that was crisp and flat without taking a step. His running and passing are well read/telegraphed to the oppo. I&#8217;m not sure why he waits for the opp defence to form up 80% of the time he passes, he is frighteningly Greganesque. They must train this because the excuse of disruption is not available after this game. The AB&#8217;s and BOK will have his game well sussed by TN&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Would&#8217;ve been great to see Stirlo hold onto that ball, he would be pissed with himself.</p>
<p>Anyway I reckon the Wallas are going to be very competitive, time to start getting some odds off my Kiwi buddies!</p>
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		<title>By: Even looser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Even looser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Credit where credit is due. The French played better &amp; for longer than I expected. Nathan Sharpe, always a concern for me, played very well. Probably as good as I&#039;ve seen from him. My Man of the Match.

The Wallabies seemed to struggle with the increase in intensity of the French forwards. At one point I was wondering if they were human or Octupus. They seemed to have arms &amp; legs all over the place. So it was a decent workout for the forwards.

Our backs will need to kick better &amp; run better lines if we&#039;re to beat the AB&#039;s &amp; the Boks. So many of our kicks were charged down. That could have been ugly. We were fortunate with several crucial refereeing decisions. Can&#039;t for the life of me figure how the French got pinged when Gits recovered his charged down ball right in front of our posts. 

We play the AB&#039;s in 3 weeks. How the hell will Robbie crank up the intensity &amp; have us ready? Are the boys back to club rugby?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Credit where credit is due. The French played better &amp; for longer than I expected. Nathan Sharpe, always a concern for me, played very well. Probably as good as I&#8217;ve seen from him. My Man of the Match.</p>
<p>The Wallabies seemed to struggle with the increase in intensity of the French forwards. At one point I was wondering if they were human or Octupus. They seemed to have arms &amp; legs all over the place. So it was a decent workout for the forwards.</p>
<p>Our backs will need to kick better &amp; run better lines if we&#8217;re to beat the AB&#8217;s &amp; the Boks. So many of our kicks were charged down. That could have been ugly. We were fortunate with several crucial refereeing decisions. Can&#8217;t for the life of me figure how the French got pinged when Gits recovered his charged down ball right in front of our posts. </p>
<p>We play the AB&#8217;s in 3 weeks. How the hell will Robbie crank up the intensity &amp; have us ready? Are the boys back to club rugby?</p>
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		<title>By: Nird99</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nird99</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:47:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was one to give ben alexander a big rap after the S14 season but the games he has played for the wallabies this year have been very up and down. his general play around the field has been reasonable but his scrummaging has been poor. I still dont rate baxter, but he is the best we have at the moment. I still believe we need someone more like rodzilla at tighthead. An anchor for the entire scrum. if we look at world rugby, teams that generally srummage well have a very strong tighthead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was one to give ben alexander a big rap after the S14 season but the games he has played for the wallabies this year have been very up and down. his general play around the field has been reasonable but his scrummaging has been poor. I still dont rate baxter, but he is the best we have at the moment. I still believe we need someone more like rodzilla at tighthead. An anchor for the entire scrum. if we look at world rugby, teams that generally srummage well have a very strong tighthead.</p>
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		<title>By: onside</title>
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		<dc:creator>onside</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 02:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What odds are available on the Wallabies loosing all tri nations games.</description>
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		<title>By: Dexter William</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dexter William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 01:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter K,

Come on, we need to hear you say that Sharpe is good last night.

The truth is that I have not been very impressed with Sharpe for a long time, but whatever Robbie has been telling him is obviously working. Yes. He did bomb a try by not passing wide - but that was the only major negative last night.

Instead of Sharpe doing &quot;seagulling&quot; last night, Mum was. What a shame that a young man given the opportunity did nothing to help his cause. He was the only player that is not improving under Robbie. Can&#039;t wait to see Elsom at 6.

I also thoght that  Brown did alright last night. Did you guys notice his biceps? He must be working on bulking up and strengthening work. He is not a big 8, but I like his attitude a lot. He may be in the making of our Rodney Soiallo.

Agree with the few other comments above that Benn R played fantastically well at the scrum and also in general play. If props do mature slowly, Benn R being in his early twenties would be in &quot;the hall of fame&quot; in his early thirties. Unfortunately our tight head stock isn&#039;t as good as we see Ben A struggling when he came on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter K,</p>
<p>Come on, we need to hear you say that Sharpe is good last night.</p>
<p>The truth is that I have not been very impressed with Sharpe for a long time, but whatever Robbie has been telling him is obviously working. Yes. He did bomb a try by not passing wide &#8211; but that was the only major negative last night.</p>
<p>Instead of Sharpe doing &#8220;seagulling&#8221; last night, Mum was. What a shame that a young man given the opportunity did nothing to help his cause. He was the only player that is not improving under Robbie. Can&#8217;t wait to see Elsom at 6.</p>
<p>I also thoght that  Brown did alright last night. Did you guys notice his biceps? He must be working on bulking up and strengthening work. He is not a big 8, but I like his attitude a lot. He may be in the making of our Rodney Soiallo.</p>
<p>Agree with the few other comments above that Benn R played fantastically well at the scrum and also in general play. If props do mature slowly, Benn R being in his early twenties would be in &#8220;the hall of fame&#8221; in his early thirties. Unfortunately our tight head stock isn&#8217;t as good as we see Ben A struggling when he came on.</p>
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