A) Put BOD out of the game meaning the turnstile had to take the field leading to 10 points for the Boks (not to mention Habana’s try while BOD was in lala land).

B) Meant dumbarse De Villiers had to actually bring his best loose forward on.

If the Lions showed a bit of grace in defeat then 2-1 was fair.

Now, it’s 3-0. Take this heroic ploy from them and embarrass them properly…

Highlights for me:-
1. Ronan O’Gara getting the old Jono Lomu treatment as Jacque Fourie ran straight over him to score

2. BOD and Gethin Jenkins getting a double (unintentional) headbutt from Habana ! Boing, Boing … two down !

Man, was feeling for the Lions and sentimentally thinking it’d be nice if they won the final test. But with this constant excuse-making and whinging, and lack of class shown by the Lions management in not once congratulating the Springboks or admitting their own mistakes, now I’m just hoping the Springboks wipe the floor with them. Will be fun to sit back and watch the excuses mount then.

This is what Brian Moore had to say about Lawrence.

Oh dear … I don’t wish to get into this crass cock fight but what the hell…

…Any original English colonist in Africa will (and rightly so)drop to his knee’s in due respect for the early kindhearted Afrikaners who assisted unflinchingly while they hardly ever judged the smelly, unskilled, uneducated, morally challenged lot being flushed out of Englands infininte ceasepool of sub-humans.

You, on behalf of your kind, show how you typically welch on your debts (eg debt of gratitude owed the Afrikaners) – The Africans call you locusts because of this wont. A plague that consumes like cancer. In the end, ask any old African … they side with Afrikaners over Englishmen. Why ? … they correctly see the differences in character. The Poms – they said were rotten to the core.

The Chinese might too have a point … the world could be a better place without Vikings, Angles, Saxon and Celts ?

But you’re going to mock the Russians… probably the Germans, the French, Japs, Micks, Macks… in fact everyone ?!

Funny that ? We don’t blame you. It’s the inbreeding. We don’t hate you either !

Anyway, I wasn’t so much trying to have a dig at the Dutch – who, as Ben J states, are a relatively peaceful bunch (and get on splendidly with the English – there are probably no two nations in Europe with more in common). It was more of an observation that the particular Dutch settlers who landed in Africa were a pretty troubled, over-wrought bunch of fellows. The reason they insisted on calling themselves Afrikaners was that they didn’t much like the folk back home. Their history is one of feeling cornered and persecuted (sometimes with good reason), and people who feel that way – the Russians being another classic example – often act in a rather beastly manner.

ha, ha …. ha, ha … ha, ha !

Fairplay… like Red Coats slaughtering innocent men, women & children around the planet ? Yeah… hurrah, British fairplay !

Your anglo-dutch ‘attempt’ is priceless and isn’t ‘toxic’ just French for England ?

I suppose that makes the Dutch just a colon!

Seriously, “eye goughing” is a serious offence up there with spear tackling and tackling the man in the air…what if Fourie du Preez broke his neck after O’Gara cynically shoulder charged his buttocks. Tom Croft shoulder charged Fourie in the first test and only got a penalty.Was that fair? Is it the Springboks fault that the Lions were falling apart at the seams? They did only score one very good try to 3 wonderful efforts and the fact that the Lions were still in the game after 60 minutes were more courtesy of PdV selection tactics then anything else. Everyone could see that Morne Steyn and Brussouw should have been on the park at halftime. Yes it was a wonderful test which should not be remembered for one incident after 32 seconds. It deserves much better than that.

The ref, ahh the ref…not good enough to officiate in any six nations games but here he popped out to ref the World Champions and BI Lions. He was shown up as a tv ref in the first test and realy should not have been there to manage a test of this magnitude.

And Viscount , aren’t the Dutch one of the most peacefull nations in history? The English are the real beasts of history past with their concentration camps and mushy peas:)

Nird, Sin-nick it’s 8 weeks for Burger. With the scheduling like it is, he’ll only miss about 3 games..

When you add in the uniquely troubled history of South Africa, you have a truly toxic mix.

The laws (law 3.5) specifically require teams with 22 players to have suitably trained 5 players that can play front row – there is no logic to go into a game where you as a coach are fully aware that
1. the beast is playing
2. scrummage is the key to the game – winning it
3. this would be a physical encounter

What coach would go into the game with 3 props and 2 hookers – even given that the law requires a player on the bench to act as a hooker – why not have a smarter 2 props plus one hooker – why was shane williams on the bench – he was never going to get much game time in this game –

Some state that the loss was down to no real scrummage – who is really to blame

I suspect that there was no thought process at all, hence the stupidity of the attack.

What could Burger have been thinking? So early in the test it must have been premeditated, but why? He didn’t play Test 1 so ‘get square’ doesn’t come into it. I would dearly like to know what the thought process was behind his action.

If 8 weeks is true that will take him out of half of the 3N.