Rugby politics threaten Melbourne Super 15
By Bay35Pablo, 9 Jul 2009 Bay35Pablo is a Roar Guru
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The Australian’s Wayne Smith wrote an article yesterday that gives cause for concern that Melbourne and the VRU may not gain the fifth Australian franchise from 2011.
If correct, it begs the question as to what’s going on at the ARU.
While questions might be asked about Gary Gray as VRU President, it beggars belief that any people at the ARU would choose to place the franchise elsewhere simply for reasons of getting square.
With union lacking a presence in Australia’s second biggest city and arguably biggest sporting city, the game cannot claim to be truly national. However, if the VRU and Melbourne lose out due to internal grudges against one man, correct or not, is the ARU really looking at the big picture and the best interests of the game as a whole?
One would think that even if some had issues with Gray, they would hold their noses, close their eyes and think of the game. But perhaps not.
Instead, the prospect of sending the franchise to the already congested Gold Coast (with a likely adverse effect on the Reds), or the potentially unreceptive western Sydney, simply to deny it to Gray, appears to be acceptable to some.
The ARU, and rugby union in general, has a poor image as a hot bed of politics and personalities, although this perhaps applies to all sports.
However, with the NSL gone, rugby seems intent on usurping its position as the Australian sport with an image of the biggest blockheads playing political games to the detriment of their sport.
In an age when people decry sport becoming a business, and commercial concerns winning out over traditions and sportsmanship, the certainty of the almighty dollar has some solace. After all, at least if its being run as a business, we all know if it will make money it will get support rather than being dependent on who has a grudge for who.
If this is true, then the ARU cannot move to independent directors and a board soon enough, to get rid of the amateur Machiavellis souring the game. If not, then the fact it is all too easy to believe doesn’t bode to well for the regard in which the game’s administrators are held.
Fourteen years after the game went professional, have the administrators caught up to the players and coaches and become professionals themselves?
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July 9th 2009 @ 11:31am
Chop said | July 9th 2009 @ 11:31am | Report comment
Interesting that they’ve cast such a wide net asking for applications….
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/wanted–a-15th-super-rugby-team-20090709-ddtu.html
Southern hemisphere rugby conglomerate SANZAR has called for expressions of interest from applicants wishing to join an expanded Super 15 tournament in 2011.
This is the first step in the application process to determine the location of the 15th team, with a decision expected to be made by November.
Geographical location and the time zone of the new team will be a key consideration for SANZAR as the 15th team will play in the Australian conference.
Melbourne and western Sydney have been mentioned as potential locations for a fifth Australian team in the tournament.
In addition to sending letters to the Australian, New Zealand and South African rugby unions, SANZAR has invited the national bodies of Argentina, Canada, Fiji, Japan, USA and Tonga to consider applying.
Potential applicants need to register their interest with SANZAR by July 22.
July 9th 2009 @ 11:32am
mattamkII said | July 9th 2009 @ 11:32am | Report comment
yep..
And the funniest part here is they people are taking comments from VRU club people seriously. Maybe Wayne Smith is used to dealing with genuine administrators in NSW but Vic club land is still very much 80′s amateur….you know:
“who can we get to be Treasurer? what about Tony whats his name that used too play colts..you know, the Italian fella…didnt he go to uni and do accounting?”
That kinda of stuff.
July 9th 2009 @ 11:42am
mattamkII said | July 9th 2009 @ 11:42am | Report comment
Chop they are doing it becuase last time is was “we invite application from Melbourne, Perth and Central Coast. Anyone else, dont bother” or words to that affect and noses were out out of joint.
And Curnow proves how stupid he is by slagging off SA and TAS…last time I looked both had voting rights…? and there is a very strong rumor that SA’s vote for WA last time round cost VIC the 14th team……. IDIOT.
July 9th 2009 @ 12:19pm
Sam Taulelei said | July 9th 2009 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
Chop
It’s hard for me to believe that the invitation for expressions of interest is anything other than a token exercise to prove that the process is transparent and fair.
At the last IRB meeting where the Super 15 expansion plans were announced they also discussed the introduction of Argentina to the Tri Nations. It was reported that SANZAR officials and Syd Millar were unimpressed with the lack of preparation and detail submitted by Argentina and were told to go away and come back in a fortnight with a major sponsor andl broadcaster to the table for serious consideration. They hadn’t provided enough information on how much it will cost to include them and how much revenue the South American market can generate so any cost modelling was impossible.
Assuming the same criteria is applied to other nations it’s hard to see any of the PI applications given serious consideration. How a team outside of Australia could be based and supported from within the Australian conference falls into the too hard basket for me, although there are plenty of NZ expats in Australia.
July 9th 2009 @ 12:35pm
Brett McKay said | July 9th 2009 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
Sam, perhaps the wide net is to also garner interest for going from 15 to 18 teams. So yes, they’ve gone through the process now, and (for the sake of example) Melbourne has the best case for team 15. The next three (say Southern Kings, Hong Kong and PIs) are thanked graciously for their submission and are definitely under consideration should we go to 18 teams…
July 9th 2009 @ 12:45pm
Sam Taulelei said | July 9th 2009 @ 12:45pm | Report comment
Good point Brett I hadn’t thought of that and if News Corp change the terms of the agreement from 5 years to 3 years, then SANZAR will need to begin planning for a Super 18 competition now.
July 9th 2009 @ 1:08pm
AndyS said | July 9th 2009 @ 1:08pm | Report comment
I can’t believe it won’t be Melbourne, but folk seem to be taking a leap from “it isn’t likely with Gray in charge” to the ARU having personal issues with him. It may be as simple as being very underwhelmed by the perfomance with the Rebels. Certainly, given how poorly they managed that budget, I could understand a reluctance to give them the keys to a Super team. But I would still expect it to be a Victorian team, just with perhaps some increased oversight.
But then I still look sideways at the Southern Kings. Consensus seemed to be that JO’N got most of what he wanted out of the new Super structure…are we sure the bill just hasn’t fallen due yet?
July 9th 2009 @ 1:59pm
Simon said | July 9th 2009 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Casting the net wide is the right process to gain interest and firm up potential teams for a further expantion in the future. BTW Chop – the same report on the NZ rugby heaven site said “Melbourne and Gold coast” as the likely locations , not Melbourne and Western Sydney. Strange mistake to make don’t you think?
July 9th 2009 @ 2:25pm
Chop said | July 9th 2009 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
Simon, I think the Gold Coast will be pushing as well as Western Sydney to take the team of Melbourne.
That said I think it will be Melbourne now there there is a quality rectangular oval for them to use rather than using Olympic Park which is the 2nd worst ground I’ve ever watched a game at (Belmore is worst).
What wouldn’t surprise me is that a private owner comes in and buys the Melbourne Franchise and the Victorian RU are shut out of the team completely.
July 9th 2009 @ 3:36pm
Working Class Rugger said | July 9th 2009 @ 3:36pm | Report comment
I get the impression there are members within the VRU who may be using this speculation as a platform to try and oust Gray. And if there are members of the ARU that think the same way then that strengthens their ambition. The only real choice in the process is Melbourne pure and simple. The other’s are complete lunacy. Having said that assumption is the mother of all @#$%ups.
Invite a wide range of application is no more the to evaluate the interest in the further expansion of the series. If they did get expression from Argentina, Canada, USA, PI’s, Hong Kong and Japan they can respectfully decline their applications now and look at going to at an Super 18 if not further in 2013. In RugbyWorld magazine there was story run of specifically the future format of the Super series. The future according to this article was a 30 team/ 5 conference Super Series involving teams from the Americas, Asia and Six teams from each Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. It was complete speculation at the time in my mind. But with the supposed plan to go from a Super 15 in 2011 to a Super 18 in 2013 and opening to table to further interest in their target areas there might be something behind it.