There is some information here about the plans submitted to council for the Mariners Centre of Excellence. So let’s put a value on the centre.
Land, 22 acres at 1.5 million per acre: that’s 33 million. Building and fields, 18.5 million, plus furnishing, fitting, equipment and so on, say 5 million. A working club with normal bar and food facilities and some pokies, say 1.5 million.
Total tangible asset value is $58 million.
Now we have to add the intangible assets such as goodwill, knowledge and so on.
The Mariners centre will use the Brazilian giants San Polo coaching methods and the academy management structure of Sheffield United. The community goodwill and the value of future players needs to be added. Plus the revenue streams coming out of the 120 room motel.
Plus the benefits from the relationship with Newcastle University, who will set up part of their medical school. The Sports Management school will also be run out of the Mariners Centre of Excellence..
So what’s it worth? My guess is somewhere between $58 and $65 million.
By heck, that is an investment in football.
When completed, the Mariners Centre of Football excellence will feature six full sized playing fields, including a boutique arena, ten small sided, multi-sport fields, a 6-story administration building, a sports science building, a 120-room accommodation block, an indoor aquatic centre, gymnasium, and a refurbished and extended licensed club.
But will the Mariners Centre of Excellence deliver what has been claimed by the Mariners board since before Hal 1?
The premise behind the Mariners Centre of Excellence is that football will grow in Australia and for a regional centre to compete with it’s capital rivals in the future, it needs something. The something is an academy based entirely upon increasing the technical ability of the players within the academy and the Central Coast in general.
How valid is this claim that by simply producing technical better juniors, a regional club will grow?
To date, the Mariners Board record is impressive. They have convinced a local RSL club to provide 12 acres of land and their premises in return for having their club refurbished. The Wyong council has provided an adjourning 10 acres of land.
Part of this trust was developed when in Hal 2, Lyle Gorman (Mariners CEO) was invited onto a local Area Health board and he wrote a paper about the connection between alcohol abuse by local youth and sport. Only a few months after Lyle wrote the paper, a beer company offered the Mariners a six figure sponsorship contract.
The club was still losing money, but Lyle rejected the offer, which was a massive ethical stand. Many locals say that this in itself earned the trust of the local community and why, when Lyle presented to the RSL board and Council what he wanted to do, the 22 acres of land and club was handed over.
That said, can a training academy based on creating the best technical junior players in the country make a small regional area a power house in Australia football for years to come?
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July 22nd 2009 @ 2:07pm
Koala Bear said | July 22nd 2009 @ 2:07pm | Report comment
Vicentin,
something strange is going on here … I can see and read your email but there’s no comment posted up on this article … Anyway.. The Brazilians do an exercise to the Samba music or simular to the Cha Cha foot movement … I only bring this up as I once saw a film clip of youngsters going through the drill to the Cha, Cha, Bosa Nova, music being played in the background…
oops there it is …
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KB
July 22nd 2009 @ 2:10pm
Midfielder said | July 22nd 2009 @ 2:10pm | Report comment
Vicentin
Very true music is a majic thing and if kids can get into music and dance it is very good for them … also music is that one thing that can say a lot and place you in a time .. Dylan’s music about the struggle of the 60′s still rings true today but for a different set of circustances…
Cold Play .. have a song called Fix You … and it was written for the wife of the lead singer Chris Martin to his wife on the death of her father but many meaning can be taken from the words and I was watching a youtube of it and how the audience were just swaying with the line … I will Fix You …
But more back on topic music has the ability to mean different things to different people and pull a common group together who otherwise would be outcasts… But it must be rembered many in music fall prey to drugs and alcohol so not sure if the article takes this into account…
Your point about training to music I think only works so far and in certain sports I canot see it working in football … but I can see dance working well and if music is needed to dance then there is a youtube I have often tried to copy
July 22nd 2009 @ 2:20pm
Koala Bear said | July 22nd 2009 @ 2:20pm | Report comment
Samba and football are one
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KB
July 22nd 2009 @ 2:22pm
Vicentin said | July 22nd 2009 @ 2:22pm | Report comment
Mid – not too serious about it – training to music, but I don’t think it hurts. Unless you have arguement about the choice of music …..http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/jul/21/steven-gerrard-court-trial
I can’t access youtube at work but will check out your link later.
July 22nd 2009 @ 2:31pm
Koala Bear said | July 22nd 2009 @ 2:31pm | Report comment
I have been trying to find the original black and white clip I saw many years ago but I have not come across it yet … maybe it’s not there in U-tube, however, this example has a similar theme
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KB
July 22nd 2009 @ 2:43pm
David V. said | July 22nd 2009 @ 2:43pm | Report comment
The Academy is a wonderful, admirable concept. But as I’ve asserted on here from the beginning, what you learn in an academy can easily be undermined by poor coaching at senior levels once you make it. And that’s bound to happen as long as we have this head-in-sand protectionist approach to coaching in the A-League.
July 22nd 2009 @ 2:59pm
Pippinu said | July 22nd 2009 @ 2:59pm | Report comment
To follow up on David V’s point (and it’s something you will find in a lot of sports), there’s a difference in terms of the sort of generalist skills and fitness type of training you get at youth level to broadly equip you for a professional career, and what then happens at the senior level within a club, that is more focused on getting results, following particular strategies, learning to play within specific formations, learning certain team rules, etc.
You might go through the youth system as a natural attacking wing back, but if you end up in a senior team that shuns the use of a back three, and you’re forced to fit into a back four, or to re-learn your game as a midfielder, you might continue developing as a footballer, or you may not (different people will react differently to such challenges, some will thrive, others will go backwards).
In fact, it only takes a mid-season change of coach to effectively end a young player’s career, or at least slow their progression down a fair bit (and their a stacks of examples involving Aust players overseas).
July 22nd 2009 @ 3:15pm
Towser said | July 22nd 2009 @ 3:15pm | Report comment
Surely the idea of these academies is to improve technique? A million things can happen as players break into the senior world of football. Some depend on Senior coaches choice in player,as Pippinu said, some depend on the individual coaches tactics & coach capabilities as David V said. Some depend on whether a player wants the hard road & dedication of being a professional. A myriad of reasons.You can(the FFA) be aware of coaching deficiences at Senior Level(& hopefully Sydney will show the worth of a coach such as Lavicka) but you cant interfere in an individual clubs coach of choice. If players are developed with excellent technique & some tactical awareness at Junior levels then hopefully the right sort of coaches have received positive results(IE winning by style & flair) to take them further in their career at A-League level. Personally I believe no Australian coach is capable of that at this stage of the A-Leagues history. But that is a personal view others may differ.
July 22nd 2009 @ 3:29pm
Pippinu said | July 22nd 2009 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
Towser said: “…but you cant interfere in an individual clubs coach of choice.”
Very true.
This reminds me that when SFC first hired Butcher, Fos got absolutley stuck into both the SFC and the FFA. In a roundabout way, he was actually imploring the FFA to step in and to stop clubs from employing these sorts of coaches.
His words were along the lines: “We don’t want this sort of coach in Australia”.
Now, as it turned out, Fos may have been right in sentiment – but as Towser has said – you can’t legislate for who clubs can and can’t hire as their coaches.
It’s the club’s call. Full stop.
Bringing us back to the theme of the last few posts – youth academies are very much about getting the fundamentals right, about giving kids a decent start – thereafter, there are a million things that are going to affect that kid’s development, good and bad.
July 22nd 2009 @ 3:32pm
Towser said | July 22nd 2009 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
There is another area also where our better youngsters can learn & that is in the International arena. As now we have gone down the experienced Dutch coach path,players will learn from them. See this story:-
http://au.fourfourtwo.com/news/108169,mitch-eyes-world-cup-boost.aspx
Also the best players will go overseas & any elite players like Harry & Viduka will end up at clubs with quality coaches anyway.