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	<title>Comments on: AFL can end tanking by copying NBA&#8217;s draft system</title>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-185617</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 04:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:lol:</description>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-185611</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i think our work here is done Pipp, on to the next major problem for us to sort out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think our work here is done Pipp, on to the next major problem for us to sort out</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-185598</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just listening to the Coodabeens, and one  &quot;caller&quot; has reminded everyone that the bulldogs have been tanking for 100 years!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just listening to the Coodabeens, and one  &#8220;caller&#8221; has reminded everyone that the bulldogs have been tanking for 100 years!!</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-185597</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Aug 2009 03:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am convinced that the solution is probably as simple as that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am convinced that the solution is probably as simple as that.</p>
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		<title>By: David V.</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184398</link>
		<dc:creator>David V.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s not forget that the NFL and NBA have much bigger talent pools and a wider spread of teams. They can easily fill their rosters with league-standard players, whereas Australian sports leagues have a bigger problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s not forget that the NFL and NBA have much bigger talent pools and a wider spread of teams. They can easily fill their rosters with league-standard players, whereas Australian sports leagues have a bigger problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Mushi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mushi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 03:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanking isn’t considered as big a deal in the NFL because there is far less benefit for far more risk.

The biggest difference between the NBA and NFL drafts, in my mind is the ability to project production of the drafted players.  
The ability to project how good a player will be as professional based on their amateur career is significantly more difficult in the NFL than in the NBA. 

The mechanics of American Football are such that your production is very heavily impacted by your team mate’s ability, your coach’s ability and the role in your team’s system. 

Whilst in basketball is more of a sport where good player can produce regardless, sure numbers are still impacted by other factors but they are both more obvious and less influential than in the NFL.

Generally, in basketball, the only thing that will stop a truly great young player from becoming at least an occasional all star is injury.

Of the last ten top draft picks in the NFL, five are either already out of the league or are back ups, none are perennial pro bowlers and only one has played a role in on team that has gone to a super bowl.  In other words it’s a crap shoot.

Then you have the financial impacts, the NBA has a fixed salary for drafts pick that is below the average for a starting player and it has a soft salary cap.  

The NFL has no rookie salary scale and because of this high draft picks which, know they are going to be marketed as the saviour of the club, command massive contracts which are typically quite long dated. 

Under a fixed salary cap, like the NFL has, these contracts can cripple a team for years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanking isn’t considered as big a deal in the NFL because there is far less benefit for far more risk.</p>
<p>The biggest difference between the NBA and NFL drafts, in my mind is the ability to project production of the drafted players.<br />
The ability to project how good a player will be as professional based on their amateur career is significantly more difficult in the NFL than in the NBA. </p>
<p>The mechanics of American Football are such that your production is very heavily impacted by your team mate’s ability, your coach’s ability and the role in your team’s system. </p>
<p>Whilst in basketball is more of a sport where good player can produce regardless, sure numbers are still impacted by other factors but they are both more obvious and less influential than in the NFL.</p>
<p>Generally, in basketball, the only thing that will stop a truly great young player from becoming at least an occasional all star is injury.</p>
<p>Of the last ten top draft picks in the NFL, five are either already out of the league or are back ups, none are perennial pro bowlers and only one has played a role in on team that has gone to a super bowl.  In other words it’s a crap shoot.</p>
<p>Then you have the financial impacts, the NBA has a fixed salary for drafts pick that is below the average for a starting player and it has a soft salary cap.  </p>
<p>The NFL has no rookie salary scale and because of this high draft picks which, know they are going to be marketed as the saviour of the club, command massive contracts which are typically quite long dated. </p>
<p>Under a fixed salary cap, like the NFL has, these contracts can cripple a team for years.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184357</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say the same thing each time. ww need someone who know a bit about the NFL to tell us what happens there. Everyone always gives the NBA examples</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say the same thing each time. ww need someone who know a bit about the NFL to tell us what happens there. Everyone always gives the NBA examples</p>
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		<title>By: WA</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184355</link>
		<dc:creator>WA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 02:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone else completely sick of this topic? Errrgh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone else completely sick of this topic? Errrgh.</p>
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		<title>By: sportsfanslife.com</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184332</link>
		<dc:creator>sportsfanslife.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 01:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you&#039;ve ever read Bill Simmons&#039; work as ESPN&#039;s &#039;Sports Guy&#039;, you&#039;ll have heard of his &#039;Tankapalooza&#039; theory for the NBA....Adopting that system won&#039;t eliminate tanking unfortunately...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you&#8217;ve ever read Bill Simmons&#8217; work as ESPN&#8217;s &#8216;Sports Guy&#8217;, you&#8217;ll have heard of his &#8216;Tankapalooza&#8217; theory for the NBA&#8230;.Adopting that system won&#8217;t eliminate tanking unfortunately&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184250</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NFL doesnt need a lottery....get rid of priority picks and the problem goes away. there is no differance between getting pick one or two (Chris judd was number 3 in 2001) the problem is getting the extra pick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NFL doesnt need a lottery&#8230;.get rid of priority picks and the problem goes away. there is no differance between getting pick one or two (Chris judd was number 3 in 2001) the problem is getting the extra pick.</p>
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		<title>By: ohtani's jacket,</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184247</link>
		<dc:creator>ohtani's jacket,</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 00:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tanking is rife in the NBA because the team with the best non-playoff record has a 0.5% chance of receiving the top pick, while the team with the worst record has a 25% chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tanking is rife in the NBA because the team with the best non-playoff record has a 0.5% chance of receiving the top pick, while the team with the worst record has a 25% chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184239</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:46:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NBA system reduces certainty, but it still gives clubs who finish lower a greater chance of getting top picks, therefore gives a greater incentive to finish lower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NBA system reduces certainty, but it still gives clubs who finish lower a greater chance of getting top picks, therefore gives a greater incentive to finish lower.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/06/afl-should-copy-the-nbas-draft-system-to-end-tanking/comment-page-1/#comment-184225</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 23:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not just award picks based on ladder positions after Round 15. While they&#039;re at it everyone should play each other once up to Round 15. That way games played Rounds 16-22 won&#039;t affect draft picks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not just award picks based on ladder positions after Round 15. While they&#8217;re at it everyone should play each other once up to Round 15. That way games played Rounds 16-22 won&#8217;t affect draft picks.</p>
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