Three simple facts say Australian rugby is on the up
By gatesy, 19 Aug 2009 gatesy is a Roar Guru
Three seemingly unrelated events have occurred recently. You might find this fanciful, but when I connect the dots, it becomes interesting.
First, the most apparently insignificant of the three, at first glance at least, was that the final of the Australian Schoolboys Championships was played recently between Queensland (nothing unusual there) and Combined States! Not NSW as is usually the case.
While Queensland won, Combined States put up a pretty good show.
What does this mean?
Maybe it means that rugby is beginning to even itself out around the states a little bit at the rookie level. There is no question that the strength of the game at schoolboy level still lies with the Brisbane and Sydney GPS schools. But perhaps the field is coming back a little.
Queensland can consistently win at that level, but then they lose those guys – a classic example is Matt Toomua, who I rate as the best young prospect in Australia.
How Queensland let him get away beggars belief!
The second thing? NZRU blocked Taranaki’s bid for inclusion in the Super 15.
No real surprise there, but to me, that says that NZRU is finally admitting that NZ Rugby has limitations in terms of player numbers and dollars.
The third? O’Regan Hoskins (chairman of SANZAR, but a South African official) proposes that the Southern Kings and the Victorian franchise merge.
Really? Is that a sign that the South African franchise is clinging to the wreckage?
The Victorians have only been trying to break into the main game for about a hundred years. They have some fairly heavyweight people on board, and if the three bidders do get together, then you would have to think that it’s a lay down misere that the bid will come first, with daylight a distant second.
And without any help from South Africa, which will be neither needed nor asked for.
You can just imagine how the Vic boys would welcome a merger with a bunch of South Africans after all that they have been trying to achieve, particularly when you see how poorly at least three of the five South African franchises have performed over the last few years.
What possible advantage would there be to Victoria to merge with the Southern Kings – does anyone even know where they are from?
I’m guessing that the Victorian ethos is “full speed ahead and damn the torpedoes!”
So what do my three seemingly unrelated facts have in common?
Well, I believe that, taken together, they show that Australian rugby is on the improve and that New Zealand South African rugby are “flat-lining”.
There are some that might say, “but look at how dominant the Boks currently are.”
But to them I say, Super Rugby is not Test standard rugby and it is hardly relevant – particularly when you consider that the re-vamped format of Super 15 (the conferences) will even out the challenges that are currently experienced with the demands of the travel that currently are in place with Super 14.
That the boys from the Combined States have brought competition to the ‘guns’ shows me that the standards are rising. Ergo, the available pool, in the next five to ten years will grow.
In Australia, we suffer from the malaise of “we need to get it perfect from the starting gun”. If that is the case, you will never get it right.
So what if we don’t always have all Australian teams in the finals. We may have none for a year or three (though I doubt it with the way the Brumbies are looking for next year). But even if we don’t, we need to see it as an investment in developing our game.
Every businessman understands investing in your business – there is always a bit of a penalty, but that doesn’t stop people from taking the gamble.
There is probably no question that from a sponsorship, media and professionalism standpoint, Melbourne (Victoria) can pull off what most other franchises could not.
No problems there.
So we jump across the precipice, we back ourselves and in a few years we see the rewards. Lots of winning teams (maybe even the Waratahs can fluke a title, eventually!)
What does everyone else think?
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pothale said | August 19th 2009 @ 12:47am | Report comment
Interesting.
ohtani's jacket said | August 19th 2009 @ 1:23am | Report comment
Combined States (whatever that is) make some schoolboy final and lose and New Zealand and South African rugby are flat-lining? I cannot connect the dots.
gatesy said | July 24th 2010 @ 10:07pm | Report comment
…and you never will!!
Viscount Crouchback said | August 19th 2009 @ 3:54am | Report comment
Can someone explain to me why rugger isn’t more popular in Victoria? Is there some historical reason for it?
pothale said | August 19th 2009 @ 6:56am | Report comment
Yeah me too.
Brett McKay said | August 19th 2009 @ 9:04am | Report comment
Interesting Gatesy, for sure..
The proposed merge between the Victoria and Southern Kings bid is as unexpected as it is curious. How could such a team possibly work on financial, supporter, corporate, staff and players, or location fronts?!? Is it a case of a SA official offering the peace pipe??
I’m still concerned about this Team 15 process – the winning bid must get unanimous support amongst the SANZAR nations (and broadcasters, presumably), and I’m having real trouble seeing how that can happen. SA will support the Kings; Australia will support Victoria. Sounds like a stalemate to me, and 14 teams for 2011…
johno said | August 19th 2009 @ 10:12am | Report comment
Forget the Spears, they’re a bunch of corrupt infighting misfits with a politically correct president in charge. Their structures are not in place, the provincial teams from the region can’t even make the finals in the Second League of the Currie Cup and they want to stock it with formerly disadvantged players, which means it’s never gonna have any impact on the SA sporting populace because it will lose by cricket scores on a weekly basis.
As for SA and NZ hitting a flat line. SA has more than 250 proffesional players plying their trade off-shore, of which 35 or so are ex-springboks, and no, not all of them are over the hill, end of career type players. There are guys like Marius Joubert, Jaco v.d. Westhuizen and CJ van der Linde, who could possibly be on the verge of a springbok team, playing on Europe or Japan.
NZ has the same situation I’m sure, although the numbers may be slightly less than SA’s due to the peculiar political circumstances in SA.
Greg Russell said | August 19th 2009 @ 10:24am | Report comment
“to me, that says that NZRU is finally admitting that NZ Rugby has limitations in terms of player numbers and dollars.”
This is not news. Rob Nicol, the chair of the NZ Rugby Players Association, was a key player in the creation of the Super 15 and in the new franchise being based in Australia. A direct quote from him is: “The NZ Rugby Players Association is firmly of the view that the best way for New Zealand rugby to grow is for Australian rugby to grow.”
I don’t know where ohtani’s jacket – ever sensitive to even the most remotely implied criticism of NZ rugby – is based, but if he lives in NZ he should realise that Nicol’s statement is very true. Yes, the rugby talent in this country is essentially limitless, but in a professional sport there needs to be money to match the talent. The NZ economy is far from a limitless source of money, and all the evidence is that the NZ economy’s support of rugby has flatlined.
ohtani's jacket said | August 19th 2009 @ 3:55pm | Report comment
I still don’t understand what any of that has to do with Australian rugby being on the up and New Zealand rugby flatlining.
I shouldn’t really stick my nose into articles like this, because I can’t relate to the endless fascination with growing the game in Australia and code wars and all that stuff, but it stands to reason that Australian rugby has more potential for growth given that it’s not a national sport like it is in NZ and parts of South Africa.
Is anyone in NZ really interested in a sixth Super rugby franchise outside of the Taranaki and Hawke’s Bay unions? The Super 15 is a giant cock-up and the Aussies are welcome to another franchise.
Hammer said | August 19th 2009 @ 10:28am | Report comment
“That the boys from the Combined States have brought competition to the ‘guns’ shows me that the standards are rising.” .. you equally say that standards are declining …
Working Class Rugger said | August 19th 2009 @ 2:39pm | Report comment
For those who are unaware of what the Combined States Team is. Combined States consist of a selection squad from the 2nd Division National Championships. Those in div 2 are WA,VIC,SA,TAS,NT and the Lloyd McDermott XV ( an indigenious squad).
The Combined State this year were WA and VIC heavy. With 11 from WA alone. There was a couple from SA and I think one from Tasmania.
Hammer
I watched the Schoolboys on Fox. The standard of the traditional states hasn’t dropped off. The overall standard of the juniors in Vic and WA has risen. And will continue to do so. It is probably time to consider promoting both Vic and WA to the 1st Div.
Hammer said | August 19th 2009 @ 2:50pm | Report comment
WCR – my post was merely to point out it’s a very long bow to draw a conclusion that the 3 points highlighted means that “taken together, they show that Australian rugby is on the improve and that New Zealand South African rugby are “flat-lining”.” …. frankly that’s bullshit ….