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		<title>By: Eddie</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-1/#comment-197579</link>
		<dc:creator>Eddie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 11:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OneHD don&#039;t have the exclusive rights to the Bundesliga and Serie A in Australia, the Bundeslaga is also shown Setanta and the Serie A is also shown on both Setanta and ESPN in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OneHD don&#8217;t have the exclusive rights to the Bundesliga and Serie A in Australia, the Bundeslaga is also shown Setanta and the Serie A is also shown on both Setanta and ESPN in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-3/#comment-196884</link>
		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:57:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I said before what football has is a number of broadcast plathforms these will assist in selling football to the FTA&#039;s</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I said before what football has is a number of broadcast plathforms these will assist in selling football to the FTA&#8217;s</p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-3/#comment-196870</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the end of the day the contract ends at 2013.  Prior to this date a request for tenders for the rights will be made for the next period.  The FFA will assess the tenders and make a decision as to which one best assist the growth of the game in the country.  Last time it was Fox who were the only bidder prepared to stump up significant amounts of cash which has kept the competition afloat in its formative stages.  In the next round all bids should be assessed and evaluated.  It is important that free to air is prepared to make a significant financial commitment towards securing the rights.  

Having free to air games and a viable competition is everyone&#039;s preferred option.  Every one having free access to watch the competition dissolve helps no-one.  Let&#039;s see what bids are tabled and then make an assessment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of the day the contract ends at 2013.  Prior to this date a request for tenders for the rights will be made for the next period.  The FFA will assess the tenders and make a decision as to which one best assist the growth of the game in the country.  Last time it was Fox who were the only bidder prepared to stump up significant amounts of cash which has kept the competition afloat in its formative stages.  In the next round all bids should be assessed and evaluated.  It is important that free to air is prepared to make a significant financial commitment towards securing the rights.  </p>
<p>Having free to air games and a viable competition is everyone&#8217;s preferred option.  Every one having free access to watch the competition dissolve helps no-one.  Let&#8217;s see what bids are tabled and then make an assessment.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben of Phnom Penh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-1/#comment-196866</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben of Phnom Penh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 11:35:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>same magazine advocates free access to all drugs and abolishing the war on drugs....... constrictions on trade though do worry them somewhat though</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>same magazine advocates free access to all drugs and abolishing the war on drugs&#8230;&#8230;. constrictions on trade though do worry them somewhat though</p>
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		<title>By: zachary</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-2/#comment-196812</link>
		<dc:creator>zachary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to Gazz

the a-league is a commie league, it will collapse in a few years time just like the former NSL did and the former soviet union  did. the quiker the better i say!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to Gazz</p>
<p>the a-league is a commie league, it will collapse in a few years time just like the former NSL did and the former soviet union  did. the quiker the better i say!</p>
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		<title>By: albatross</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-2/#comment-196808</link>
		<dc:creator>albatross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Saturday Comes provided some coverage, albeit earlier, on the Argetine situation:   http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/3789/38/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Saturday Comes provided some coverage, albeit earlier, on the Argetine situation:   <a href="http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/3789/38/" rel="nofollow">http://www.wsc.co.uk/content/view/3789/38/</a></p>
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		<title>By: MVDave</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-2/#comment-196784</link>
		<dc:creator>MVDave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 07:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A little off topic but l notice EPL has moved from Pay TV back to FTA in China.

Back to topic there is little doubt that to continue growing HAL needs some FTA component. As stated in other posts a 30 or 60 mins highlights show would be ideal coupled with a match of the round game possibly Friday nights. The remaining games on pay TV. The semi finals and GF would be on FTA as they are great drama. It would be a test the waters scenario initially and make adjustments as needed to the schedule. By this time MV will be playing in their new stadium with crowds of 25-30,000 looking and sounding great on TV. 
The Socceroos are the big carrot and need to be tied to the TV deal for at least the next deal. Socceroos draw record audiences on pay TV and FTA alike.
The other point worth mentioning is the possibility of Oz having the 2018/2022 WC here. With the boost to football from that any tv deal will need to add an extra 0 or 00.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little off topic but l notice EPL has moved from Pay TV back to FTA in China.</p>
<p>Back to topic there is little doubt that to continue growing HAL needs some FTA component. As stated in other posts a 30 or 60 mins highlights show would be ideal coupled with a match of the round game possibly Friday nights. The remaining games on pay TV. The semi finals and GF would be on FTA as they are great drama. It would be a test the waters scenario initially and make adjustments as needed to the schedule. By this time MV will be playing in their new stadium with crowds of 25-30,000 looking and sounding great on TV.<br />
The Socceroos are the big carrot and need to be tied to the TV deal for at least the next deal. Socceroos draw record audiences on pay TV and FTA alike.<br />
The other point worth mentioning is the possibility of Oz having the 2018/2022 WC here. With the boost to football from that any tv deal will need to add an extra 0 or 00.</p>
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		<title>By: Con Stamocostas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Con Stamocostas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 06:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Art Sapphire particularly the last line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Art Sapphire particularly the last line.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-2/#comment-196697</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry Kurt - I stand corrected. Clarin is Argentinian. I just got them confused with Globo. But it does not matter, because they are cast from the same parasitic stone.

As menitioned by Rodrigo Orihuela in the Guardian.

&quot;The truth is that Clarín and the two consecutive Kirchner administrations have always had a complicated relationship, which is getting sourer by the day. The government accuses the media group of opposing its policies and is seeking a way to curtail its power. Snatching football from it is a major step in this direction.&quot;

So what we have here is the classic battle between right-wing monopolistic press trying to protect the interests of the neo-liberal  elite by using their dominance to run interference for the rich. 

The Centre-Left government is frustrated with the crap they have to contend with and have decided to get the people on their side. 

This is what you call &quot;Democracy in action&quot;

Or as someone else so wisely out it -

&quot;The lesson of this is that if a society doesn&#039;t provide enough opportunities so people can pay for cable TV, they will eventually have to provide it for free.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Kurt &#8211; I stand corrected. Clarin is Argentinian. I just got them confused with Globo. But it does not matter, because they are cast from the same parasitic stone.</p>
<p>As menitioned by Rodrigo Orihuela in the Guardian.</p>
<p>&#8220;The truth is that Clarín and the two consecutive Kirchner administrations have always had a complicated relationship, which is getting sourer by the day. The government accuses the media group of opposing its policies and is seeking a way to curtail its power. Snatching football from it is a major step in this direction.&#8221;</p>
<p>So what we have here is the classic battle between right-wing monopolistic press trying to protect the interests of the neo-liberal  elite by using their dominance to run interference for the rich. </p>
<p>The Centre-Left government is frustrated with the crap they have to contend with and have decided to get the people on their side. </p>
<p>This is what you call &#8220;Democracy in action&#8221;</p>
<p>Or as someone else so wisely out it -</p>
<p>&#8220;The lesson of this is that if a society doesn&#8217;t provide enough opportunities so people can pay for cable TV, they will eventually have to provide it for free.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 05:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think if any of the FTA networks were to be interested in football rights, they&#039;d want to show the national team on their standard channel and the A-league on their digital channel. 10, in particular, might find this appealing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think if any of the FTA networks were to be interested in football rights, they&#8217;d want to show the national team on their standard channel and the A-league on their digital channel. 10, in particular, might find this appealing.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-1/#comment-196567</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suggest you all learn the difference between &#039;proscribe&#039; and &#039;prescribe&#039;.

Art, the company who owned the rights to Argentinian football were Grupo Clarin, who are Argentinian, not Rede Globo, who are Brazilian.

In my view, governments should be able to find better things to do with their time than worry about the success of sporting organisations.

When governments involve themselves in sports its almost always to appeal to a specific set of voters rather than to improve society.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suggest you all learn the difference between &#8216;proscribe&#8217; and &#8216;prescribe&#8217;.</p>
<p>Art, the company who owned the rights to Argentinian football were Grupo Clarin, who are Argentinian, not Rede Globo, who are Brazilian.</p>
<p>In my view, governments should be able to find better things to do with their time than worry about the success of sporting organisations.</p>
<p>When governments involve themselves in sports its almost always to appeal to a specific set of voters rather than to improve society.</p>
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		<title>By: Midfielder</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-2/#comment-196561</link>
		<dc:creator>Midfielder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought provoking article Con.. to me it is as clear as day Ch 10 already showing German &amp; Italian leagues and highlight shows on Ch 12.... Last year 10 wanted to buy Saturday night &amp; a Friday A-League match and a delayed Socceroo broadcast ... Fox wanted to much...

Nobody screws Soccer like 7 ... cannot see given the past history 7 given the nod...


Nine are also showing interest... it comes down to whats on offer and as I posted in the code war thread Football has a lot of broadcast plathforms..in part copied from that post. Almost impossible not to have a lot of Football product on FTA

International :
Football 9 national teams, World Cup, Asian Cup, Olympics, Qualifers + friendlies

Club International :
Football Asian Champions League
World Club Challenge 

Local Domestic:

A-League 10 growing to 14 teams
W-League 8 growing to ??

Local Park :
Football next year in the FA Cup competition… 

Junior Player No’s:

Football in all States very strong,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought provoking article Con.. to me it is as clear as day Ch 10 already showing German &amp; Italian leagues and highlight shows on Ch 12&#8230;. Last year 10 wanted to buy Saturday night &amp; a Friday A-League match and a delayed Socceroo broadcast &#8230; Fox wanted to much&#8230;</p>
<p>Nobody screws Soccer like 7 &#8230; cannot see given the past history 7 given the nod&#8230;</p>
<p>Nine are also showing interest&#8230; it comes down to whats on offer and as I posted in the code war thread Football has a lot of broadcast plathforms..in part copied from that post. Almost impossible not to have a lot of Football product on FTA</p>
<p>International :<br />
Football 9 national teams, World Cup, Asian Cup, Olympics, Qualifers + friendlies</p>
<p>Club International :<br />
Football Asian Champions League<br />
World Club Challenge </p>
<p>Local Domestic:</p>
<p>A-League 10 growing to 14 teams<br />
W-League 8 growing to ??</p>
<p>Local Park :<br />
Football next year in the FA Cup competition… </p>
<p>Junior Player No’s:</p>
<p>Football in all States very strong,</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think 9 and 7 would be interested. And if they were it wouldn&#039;t be at a timeslot that would be worth breaking the exclusivity with Fox. 

I doubt the A league is worth any money for FTA and I predict it will be a sweet heart deal with SBS, ABC or One HD where no or little money changes hands but reaching those without pay tv is essential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think 9 and 7 would be interested. And if they were it wouldn&#8217;t be at a timeslot that would be worth breaking the exclusivity with Fox. </p>
<p>I doubt the A league is worth any money for FTA and I predict it will be a sweet heart deal with SBS, ABC or One HD where no or little money changes hands but reaching those without pay tv is essential.</p>
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		<title>By: DiCanio</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiCanio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But what if the FTA product going out is subpar

Is that good or bad for the game?

SBS is the only FTA station I can see doing a good job

Maybe chan10 cause they have a youth orientated market, but I see 9 and 7 butchering it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But what if the FTA product going out is subpar</p>
<p>Is that good or bad for the game?</p>
<p>SBS is the only FTA station I can see doing a good job</p>
<p>Maybe chan10 cause they have a youth orientated market, but I see 9 and 7 butchering it.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
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		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Foxtel is only in I think 20 to 30% of homes....ready to be corrected on that.

So getting on FTA is about reaching 70% to 80% of the population who may be a bit interested in football but not yet enough to make the leap of getting Pay TV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Foxtel is only in I think 20 to 30% of homes&#8230;.ready to be corrected on that.</p>
<p>So getting on FTA is about reaching 70% to 80% of the population who may be a bit interested in football but not yet enough to make the leap of getting Pay TV.</p>
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		<title>By: DiCanio</title>
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		<dc:creator>DiCanio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:22:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be this perception that FTA is somehow inherintely better then Foxtel because it is giving it back to the people, but aren&#039;t most FTA stations businesses who are just going to jam advertising down our throats, cut the live feed to cross to the cricket, or just flat out not show the games and show re-runs of mcGyver instead.

I really have no prob with the way Fox handles the HAL, and if it is to go to a Non-SBS FTA channel, I would be fearful of how it would be handled.

That said a game or two on SBS would be brilliant. Not only do they know how to handle a football match, their audience is the one we want to attract, the euro snobs who are still on the fence :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be this perception that FTA is somehow inherintely better then Foxtel because it is giving it back to the people, but aren&#8217;t most FTA stations businesses who are just going to jam advertising down our throats, cut the live feed to cross to the cricket, or just flat out not show the games and show re-runs of mcGyver instead.</p>
<p>I really have no prob with the way Fox handles the HAL, and if it is to go to a Non-SBS FTA channel, I would be fearful of how it would be handled.</p>
<p>That said a game or two on SBS would be brilliant. Not only do they know how to handle a football match, their audience is the one we want to attract, the euro snobs who are still on the fence <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: chook</title>
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		<dc:creator>chook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To right one of the best programs on tele for years was SBS hour of football high lights from the EPL. 

But since the Fox deal we dotn get anything.

I think that the FFA should look to let an hour of A-League on SBS or a similar package. Get some promotion of the free to air net works. 

The thing is even non football fans can stomach an hour of goals and high lights from various game around the nation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To right one of the best programs on tele for years was SBS hour of football high lights from the EPL. </p>
<p>But since the Fox deal we dotn get anything.</p>
<p>I think that the FFA should look to let an hour of A-League on SBS or a similar package. Get some promotion of the free to air net works. </p>
<p>The thing is even non football fans can stomach an hour of goals and high lights from various game around the nation.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:15:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Government has just stepped in and paid over twice the market value of the TV rights to save the game.

If that&#039;s all that ends up happening, you could almost say fair enough.

But this is what inevitably ends up happening.

The gap between revenues and costs starts to widen (afterall, why go chasing revenues if the Governemnt will bail you out).

Then two years down the track, the Argentine FA says to government, geez, we&#039;re still having trouble holding onto players, we&#039;re going to have to double salaries - so the Government is now farming out four times the market value for the TV rights, on top of god knows what other support it&#039;s offering.

That&#039;s the slippery slope to nowhere that I&#039;m talking about  and it can never resolved itself as long as government continues farming out money way, way over market value.

It&#039;s the same recipe that has reduced Argentina to relative poverty over the last century (when in fact it was once one of the richest countries in the world).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Government has just stepped in and paid over twice the market value of the TV rights to save the game.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s all that ends up happening, you could almost say fair enough.</p>
<p>But this is what inevitably ends up happening.</p>
<p>The gap between revenues and costs starts to widen (afterall, why go chasing revenues if the Governemnt will bail you out).</p>
<p>Then two years down the track, the Argentine FA says to government, geez, we&#8217;re still having trouble holding onto players, we&#8217;re going to have to double salaries &#8211; so the Government is now farming out four times the market value for the TV rights, on top of god knows what other support it&#8217;s offering.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the slippery slope to nowhere that I&#8217;m talking about  and it can never resolved itself as long as government continues farming out money way, way over market value.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the same recipe that has reduced Argentina to relative poverty over the last century (when in fact it was once one of the richest countries in the world).</p>
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		<title>By: Mr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 04:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as the World Cup Finals are on FTA I&#039;m happy. Ideally, I would like to see any FFA Cup competition broadcasted (match of the round and a replay of a second match), as well as the FFA Cup Final &amp; Semi-Finals - and until then the HAL Grand Final &amp; Semi Finals.

I also agree with a lot of commentators that an HAL highlights package is required on FTA asap.

Foxtel have done a great job of broadcasting football, and only SBS of the FTA stations could provide the same quality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as the World Cup Finals are on FTA I&#8217;m happy. Ideally, I would like to see any FFA Cup competition broadcasted (match of the round and a replay of a second match), as well as the FFA Cup Final &amp; Semi-Finals &#8211; and until then the HAL Grand Final &amp; Semi Finals.</p>
<p>I also agree with a lot of commentators that an HAL highlights package is required on FTA asap.</p>
<p>Foxtel have done a great job of broadcasting football, and only SBS of the FTA stations could provide the same quality.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 03:26:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting timing with this article. Apparently there are some reports from the UK today about the cricket ratings on Sky (pay tv) coming back lower than Songs of Praise whereas 4 years ago when it was shown free to air it rated through the roof.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting timing with this article. Apparently there are some reports from the UK today about the cricket ratings on Sky (pay tv) coming back lower than Songs of Praise whereas 4 years ago when it was shown free to air it rated through the roof.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pip - when you get companies who buy right solely for profit and not for the betterment of the game, then you have a problem. What would a Brazilian company  (Globo - the company that had the rights to Argentinian football until last week) give a crap about the state of the game in Argentina. 

In your delusional capitalist utopia, you think people run businesses for the betterment of society. They don&#039;t. 

When they do I can comfortably say that govt does not have any business in anybody&#039;s business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pip &#8211; when you get companies who buy right solely for profit and not for the betterment of the game, then you have a problem. What would a Brazilian company  (Globo &#8211; the company that had the rights to Argentinian football until last week) give a crap about the state of the game in Argentina. </p>
<p>In your delusional capitalist utopia, you think people run businesses for the betterment of society. They don&#8217;t. </p>
<p>When they do I can comfortably say that govt does not have any business in anybody&#8217;s business.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-1/#comment-196421</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ofcourse it didn&#039;t Kurt. There are many causes for the Argentina&#039;s problems but following the IMF/ Chicago School Doctrines did set the country back. 

Why don&#039;t you read Noami Klein&#039;s &quot;The Shock Doctrine&quot; and get some balance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ofcourse it didn&#8217;t Kurt. There are many causes for the Argentina&#8217;s problems but following the IMF/ Chicago School Doctrines did set the country back. </p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you read Noami Klein&#8217;s &#8220;The Shock Doctrine&#8221; and get some balance.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-1/#comment-196419</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Art
the question becomes whether the game ends up relying on Government forever and a day - and that is definitely a road to nowhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Art<br />
the question becomes whether the game ends up relying on Government forever and a day &#8211; and that is definitely a road to nowhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Art Sapphire</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-1/#comment-196414</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Sapphire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 02:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give me a break Pip. Its not about who is biggest or wealthiest. Its about having a sustainable, viable  professional football competition in countries like Argentina. Private enterprise failed and the govt had to step in.

Gee, it was only last year that we had govts bailing out all sorts of fat cat bankers who produce nothing of value. 

Football at least is worth saving as it puts a smile on peoples faces, regardless of their circumstances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give me a break Pip. Its not about who is biggest or wealthiest. Its about having a sustainable, viable  professional football competition in countries like Argentina. Private enterprise failed and the govt had to step in.</p>
<p>Gee, it was only last year that we had govts bailing out all sorts of fat cat bankers who produce nothing of value. </p>
<p>Football at least is worth saving as it puts a smile on peoples faces, regardless of their circumstances.</p>
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		<title>By: Con Stamocostas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Con Stamocostas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not a speculator on TV revenue I am only interested in Football getting back on FTA.

More kids would get to see their heroes play, that is something that can&#039;t be measured by dollars$$$$

The cultural implications of not having Australia&#039;s most popular participation sport (football) and most popular sporting team (Socceroos) on FTA is again unmeasurable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a speculator on TV revenue I am only interested in Football getting back on FTA.</p>
<p>More kids would get to see their heroes play, that is something that can&#8217;t be measured by dollars$$$$</p>
<p>The cultural implications of not having Australia&#8217;s most popular participation sport (football) and most popular sporting team (Socceroos) on FTA is again unmeasurable.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear oh dear oh dear.  If you really believe that Argentina became an economic basket case simply due to US and IMF proscribed policies, strongly suggest you read some economic history, starting with Niall Ferguson&#039;s excellent &#039;The Ascent of Money&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear oh dear oh dear.  If you really believe that Argentina became an economic basket case simply due to US and IMF proscribed policies, strongly suggest you read some economic history, starting with Niall Ferguson&#8217;s excellent &#8216;The Ascent of Money&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Con Stamocostas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Con Stamocostas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Gaz,

I think having two games a week and a highlights package is all that is needed.
A-League
A Live Friday night game and a delayed Sunday night game would be ideal. The other advantage of FTA is that the TV station would sell it more thus more ads and more space on it&#039;s nightly news and sports coverage. The other FTA stations would follow suit.

All Socceroos matches should be on FTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Gaz,</p>
<p>I think having two games a week and a highlights package is all that is needed.<br />
A-League<br />
A Live Friday night game and a delayed Sunday night game would be ideal. The other advantage of FTA is that the TV station would sell it more thus more ads and more space on it&#8217;s nightly news and sports coverage. The other FTA stations would follow suit.</p>
<p>All Socceroos matches should be on FTA.</p>
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		<title>By: cbowden9000</title>
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		<dc:creator>cbowden9000</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My best bet would be OneHD.

Channel  7 has half the AFL, Tennis and swimming.

Channel 9 has exclusive NRL

ABC has the W-League

SBS has football programs, but no leagues.

I think that SBS and ABC would be a bad choice for the A-League as they have much less exposure than the main 3.

OneHD has already jumped on the football bandwagon with the exclusive showing of both the German Bundes Liga and the Italian Serie A. I hope they can expand to the A-League in 2013. This would be a huge boost for football in Australia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My best bet would be OneHD.</p>
<p>Channel  7 has half the AFL, Tennis and swimming.</p>
<p>Channel 9 has exclusive NRL</p>
<p>ABC has the W-League</p>
<p>SBS has football programs, but no leagues.</p>
<p>I think that SBS and ABC would be a bad choice for the A-League as they have much less exposure than the main 3.</p>
<p>OneHD has already jumped on the football bandwagon with the exclusive showing of both the German Bundes Liga and the Italian Serie A. I hope they can expand to the A-League in 2013. This would be a huge boost for football in Australia.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so Government puts the Socceroos on the anti-siphoning list - please explain to me how that helps increase the value of TV rights when:

1.  one player (Fox) is completely taken out of the bidding process; and
2.  the A-League is set free on its own - and if anyone thinks anyone is going to cough up big bucks for the A-League without the Socceroos, they have rocks in their head.

I simply invite people to check the latest Fox ratings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so Government puts the Socceroos on the anti-siphoning list &#8211; please explain to me how that helps increase the value of TV rights when:</p>
<p>1.  one player (Fox) is completely taken out of the bidding process; and<br />
2.  the A-League is set free on its own &#8211; and if anyone thinks anyone is going to cough up big bucks for the A-League without the Socceroos, they have rocks in their head.</p>
<p>I simply invite people to check the latest Fox ratings.</p>
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		<title>By: Pippinu</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/08/26/waiting-for-the-democratisation-of-australian-football/comment-page-1/#comment-196375</link>
		<dc:creator>Pippinu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 01:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look around the world - the biggest and wealthiest leagues are those that have zero government involvement (EPL, NFL, etc).

Anytime you rely 100% on government assistance for your survival, it is an absolute admission of failure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look around the world &#8211; the biggest and wealthiest leagues are those that have zero government involvement (EPL, NFL, etc).</p>
<p>Anytime you rely 100% on government assistance for your survival, it is an absolute admission of failure.</p>
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