Ponting shouldn’t take the fall for Ashes defeat
By Alec Swann, 30 Aug 2009 Alec Swann is a Roar Pro
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Australia's captain Ricky Ponting, right, is bowled by England's Graeme Swann as wicketkeeper Matthew Prior, centre, looks on and Ravi Bopara jumps on the fourth day of the third cricket test match between England and Australia in Birmingham, England, Sunday Aug. 2, 2009. (AP Photo/Jon Super)
Ricky Ponting did an interview before the Ashes series for the BBC. It covered the usual subjects such as player form, predictions, what the Ashes means etc and near the end of the conversation, Ponting was asked what he thought about the England team’s over the top celebrations following their 2005 series victory.
Ponting didn’t rise to the obvious bait, but merely suggested that those who win can do what they want because they had earned the right to.
To conclude, he said that ‘Winners have parties and losers have meetings.’
Well it doesn’t take a genius to work out which of these Ponting will spend the near future at.
The aftermath of an excellent series, for the Australian captain at least, will
involve criticism and interrogation from those who now consider his position untenable. Two Ashes defeats isn’t something he will be particularly proud of, but his removal from the captaincy will be a harsh price to pay.
Looking from the outside, is there anyone better equipped than the current
incumbent? Ponting’s captaincy didn’t cost his side the Ashes, his gaffe in
ignoring Nathan Hauritz for the Oval finale aside.
You can only work with what you’ve got and what Ponting had ultimately wasn’t good enough.
Losing to the English will be a bitter pill to swallow, but it isn’t all doom
and gloom for Australia.
Their biggest pluses from the series must be Marcus North and Ben Hilfenhaus.
Michael Clarke can also be included, but his potential as a world class batsman was already apparent, if not quite fully realised, before Cardiff.
North and Hilfenhaus, however, had shown promise in South Africa, but they both showed that there was far more to their games than that.
Add in Ponting himself, Simon Katich, Peter Siddle and Mitchell Johnson and there is the basis of a very good side.
The only ones who were found wanting were Phil Hughes and, until his final chance, Mike Hussey.
The Australian selectors could easily go down the route of wholesale change, but that would achieve less than imagined, as any England selector of the 1980s could tell you.
As for England, their challenge is to avoid falling into the same trap as they
did four years ago.
Far from spurring them on to greater heights, the 2005 Ashes was the peak for a side that struggled afterwards and only reached the same heights last week.
In Andrew Strauss and Andy Flower they have two experienced men at the helm who should be able to oversee a feet on the ground approach.
This is a side who lost in the West Indies just six months ago and are only
ranked at fifth in the world with the tough assignment of South Africa away
coming up in November.
On the playing front their obvious loss will be Andrew Flintoff, but at least
this time they know he is gone. Thankfully, there will be no more hope placed on an expected return to fitness or form, just a gap in the side to be filled.
Stuart Broad is the next in line and it is to be hoped that he will be left to
develop at his own pace rather then being expected to emulate someone he blatantly isn’t.
Bowling wise, England are in pretty good shape. A decent collection of seamers and spinners – Adil Rashid has plenty of support and could easily overtake Monty Panesar – and a wicket-keeper who has improved out of sight.
Their main worry will be the batting. England may have beaten Australia, but Strauss aside, which one of their middle order would have commanded a place in the opposition’s line-up?
If they can get this sorted, then the gains of the past few weeks won’t go to
waste. Rest on their laurels, however, and they could be in for a rude
surprise.
Wherever your allegiances lie, the Ashes was a fantastic series which showed the five-day game in all its glory. In fact, the various series that both England and Australia have competed in over the past year have shown, for all the talk of Twenty20, Test cricket is where the future of the game has to lie.
I doubt it is of any consolation to Ponting and his charges, but they played
their part in an engrossing series.
It’s just a shame – for them anyway – that they will have to attend the
obligatory meetings rather than the celebratory parties.
I know which one I’d rather be at.
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blinq said | August 30th 2009 @ 11:33am | Report comment
They know what should they do to get things done here. Question is, could they do it consistently?
southernwaratah said | August 30th 2009 @ 11:47am | Report comment
I’ve got to disagree with the comment that England’s bowling is in good shape. When conditions are right England’s bowling attack is potent, but put on a sunny day where the ball doesn’t swing and it looks pedestrian. The last day of the 4th test attributes for that.
I ask this question. How will this English attack look at under 35 degree skies at Adelaide in 18mths?
Viscount Crouchback said | August 30th 2009 @ 12:18pm | Report comment
It’s a good question, southernwaratah. The next chaps in the pecking order for England – Onions and SIdebottom – both arguably require conditions to be in their favour. It’s slightly alarming that England’s best bang-it-in bowlers (Flintoff and Harmison) are both set to retire.
Equally, it was interesting to read in The Telegraph about young Broad’s upbringing at Oakham School in Leicestershire. Apparently even then he was not especially a wicket-taker but more of a chipper-inner. It seems unrealistic to expect more from him in the short-to-medium term, his magnificent exploits at The Oval notwithstanding.
Anderson, too, is rather insipid in non-swinging conditions – and, like Justin Langer, I am far from convinced that the chap has the requisite spunk to be wearing the Three Lions.
So yes, England have much to think on.
Brett McKay said | August 30th 2009 @ 3:14pm | Report comment
All good points Alec, and your point about 2005 is very valid for England, as the couple of comments above show. For Australia, the planning for 2013 should have begun already. And if Ponting shouldn’t be remembered for his latest Ashes series lost, then perhaps it should be by his ability to lead the team from here on..
Greg Russell said | August 31st 2009 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
There may be appearing soon an article I wrote late last week which argues the opposite to Alec, i.e., that Ponting should no longer be captain. I do not concern myself with details, for example whether Hauritz should have played at The Oval. (Is that even Ponting’s fault or was it the decision of the on-tour selector? Further, which of the pace bowling quartet from Headingley should have been dropped? It’s easy to say in hindsight that Clark should not have played at The Oval, but before the match most people were pleading with the selectors to retain Clark. I also note that England were as guilty as Australia of misreading The Oval, in that they did not play Monty, even though he was on hand.)
Anyway, my argument for a new Australian captain is purely philosophical: as a statement of intent to all stakeholders in Australian cricket – from the littlest kid through to the biggest sponsor – Cricket Australia needs to make clear that nothing less than excellence is tolerable, and losing the Ashes twice is so far from excellence that it is thoroughly intolerable. Much as I like Ponting and have always advocated for him, retaining him as captain is to send a message that mediocrity is acceptable. For Australian cricket, it is not. So Clarke becomes captain, and Ponting goes back to concentrating full-time on making test centuries.
southernwaratah said | August 31st 2009 @ 9:19pm | Report comment
I gave a tendency to agree if we are to applaud mediocrity we are to become the English Cricket team