NZ’s gift to Australian rugby feeling the heat
By Chris Laidlaw, 4 Sep 2009 Chris Laidlaw is a Roar Rookie
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Even though he can’t seem to take a trick in the Tri-Nations, Robbie Deans remains more or less free of the shots being fired at the Wallabies. Those shots are coming with more and more venom, but they still seem to be aimed at the players, which is odd really.
Normally, if there’s a Kiwi within sight any Australian worth his salt will turn his scorn on the poor cousin from the shaky isles rather than have a go at a fellow countryman.
But rugby is a bit different.
The relationship between New Zealand and Australia is a complex one and perhaps a little bit of that history is preserving the skin of our Robbie.
For a very long time, rugby union in Australia was a patient in an international casualty ward and New Zealand was the visiting physician.
Our people would regularly have to bail out the ARU and New Zealand was under regular pressure to come over and play so that union in Australia could be seen to be competing with league.
By and large, the Aussies were the All Blacks’ whipping boy.
From the first test ever played in 1903, before 30,000 fascinated and at times mystified spectators at the Sydney Cricket Ground, the pattern was established.
The All Blacks pounded away up the centre in forward rushes, monopolising possession, while the Australians looked for occasional opportunities to attack through their backs.
And New Zealand would win.
For most of the 20th century, rugby union in Australia was the skinny guy on the beach who got sand kicked in his face. Everywhere on rugby’s Australian horizon there was the hulking bully – rugby league.
New Zealand teams, more often than they might have wished, crossed the Tasman to fly the union flag and assistance by way of coaches and tactical advisers would often head for Australia to help the game along.
Professionalism changed much of that, of course, and so did the nasty fracas over the hosting of the 2003 World Cup in which neither of the national unions came up smelling of roses.
In some ways Australia-New Zealand rugby relations have mirrored the wider relationship.
It means a good deal more to New Zealanders to win against Australia rather than vice versa. We’re bad at losing to anyone, but we’re particularly bad at losing to Australia.
People still go round wearing those T-shirts with the mean-minded message: “I support New Zealand and any team that’s playing Australia”.
And they mean it.
It’s the big brother thing. Australia is bigger, wealthier, better endowed with natural resources, more assertive and more internationally ambitious than New Zealand.
New Zealand isn’t of much consequence across the Tasman although one suspects that it makes Australians feel more substantial knowing they can beat up on New Zealand whenever they want.
Except in rugby, where it’s rather more difficult.
Robbie Deans was, in a sense, a final, if rather begrudging gift from New Zealand rugby to Australia.
But how long will it be before they turn on him as the cause of their Test match drought?
Chris Laidlaw is an ex All Black and occasional columnist for The Roar.
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Laurens K said | September 4th 2009 @ 3:21am | Report comment
Come on, the man’s father passed away and he flew out straight to SA after the funeral!
I have not once seen anyone mention this.
He has to build up a team pretty much from scratch as most of the golden era boys have left or are moving on
Look at what criticism Jake White and John Smit went through
Knives Out said | September 4th 2009 @ 3:27am | Report comment
Jake White received criticism because he was a man who coached SA to results that don’t bear mentioning and also because he was an arrogant man who made insulting comments about other teams and players. Deans is clearly not an arrogant man but he also hasn’t had to build a team from scratch. He hasn’t covered himself in glory (yet) but then I don’t know why you’re complaining. The article is hardly a criticism of Deans.
Laurens K said | September 4th 2009 @ 3:30am | Report comment
maybe i am a bit “sensitive”
I have just been reading blog after blog and article after article, where everyone is starting to hint at Robbie Deans’ coaching
Knives Out said | September 4th 2009 @ 3:41am | Report comment
I beg to differ. I have read blog after blog with people criticising anybody and everybody BUT Deans. I’m not Australian so Australia’s rugby plight doesn’t overly bother me, but at some point with you have to sit down and consider that Australia are not in a good place right now. I’m all for giving the man time etc, but things are not looking promising at the moment and I think Deans must accept responsibility for that.
cookee said | September 4th 2009 @ 6:35am | Report comment
yep oversensitive LK and clearly too close to it.KO is right stick to the facts deans hasnt built a team from scratch and done better than others.aust has also done ok at rwc.
deans is 50 years old but clearly its never the right time to lose a parent.
criticism has been focused on players not deans but deans selects,strategises and coaches so dont be too upset if a little criticism targets the head coachs record.i mean you would expect it wouldnt you
matt said | September 4th 2009 @ 6:49am | Report comment
Need a laugh? How about this quote:
“Despite their losing streak, Mark Chisholm says the Wallabies are on the verge of greatness.”
…I feel better now…
Hayden said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:35am | Report comment
In the words of General Melchett: “If nothing else, a pig headed refusal to stare facts in the face will get us through.” I too had a good giggle when I read that.
cookee said | September 4th 2009 @ 7:06am | Report comment
MATT,get on the program mate,take a lotto ticket today and use the deanslike positive thinking;grow the hair and put those beads back on;incense but too cold for thongs or is it jandals.come on join the cult and moro aust will win cos they have nothing to lose but loss itself
sheek said | September 4th 2009 @ 8:26am | Report comment
Chris,
Historically accurate summation, & one wouldn’t expect anything less from an AB legend. To digress briefly, as someone who had intimate first-hand knowledge of Des Connor & Ken Catchpole – who might you choose if you were supreme selector?
Spiro Zavos tends to cut across the Aussie grain by preferring Connor to Catchpole, & he’s almost got me convinced!
KO,
Contrary to your observations, Deans DOES get criticised, but not as much as the players, so that may skewer perceptions. And this is only right, since most Aussie fans perceive the players to be the problem. Apart from the ARU & the structure of Australian rugby, that is, but that’s another story!
General comment,
There’s an accompanying post on today’s Roar site titled – “Why I trust Frank Lowy’s control of the game”. For those who don’t know, Lowy is the driving force that has changed Australian football (soccer) from an in-fighting basket-case, to a considerable power in Australian & world football, especially Asian football.
Like Lowy, Deans is trusted for his personal qualities as a human being. Yes, he has & will make mistakes. But Aussie fans trust the guy, knowing he will do the very best he possibly can. Most of us don’t have quite the same trust with the players.
And that’s the difference!
cookee said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:36am | Report comment
yep youre right PERCEPTION and spin ;followed by hope otherwise the “MASH” principle
Knives Out said | September 4th 2009 @ 11:11pm | Report comment
He has only faced criticism in the past two weeks, Sheek.
Brett McKay said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:02am | Report comment
Chris as Sheek says, you’ve glanced through Australian rugby history nicely there, and it’s widely acknowledged (rightly so) that New Zealand over time has gone out of its way to help the ARU, highlighted no better than the snap Bledisloe series’ in the late 70′s. We know we owe New Zealand a great debt (and not just for the 2003 RWC), but it still hurts being reminded of this fact by great New Zealanders such as yourself!!
That aside, I would imagine the response to this article may be split down the Ditch, generally speaking. On our side, we tend to say Aussie Rob is still sifting through the cattle thrust upon him, and only this year are we staring to see his team come through (and I’m sure it’s there somewhere). On your side, I could best generalise reactions with “I don’t want to say I told you so”, though it would be fair to say that those offering this line of thought aren’t Cantabs.
Whatever, the fact the Deans has been game to make the big changes this week is a positive in my mind (and Sheek, I’m still thinking of you likening me to the Black Knight last Sunday!). Clearly he was on a hiding to nothing without making some change, but I don’t know that even the most critical Wallaby supporters were expecting 7 personnel and positional changes. Undoubtedly some changes were to shake up a few blokes (morning, Messrs Brown, Moore and Baxter), others were to try and lift players in a slump (and to you too, Mr Burgess).
At the very least he’s been seen to be making change, which of course is better than doing nothing at all, to paraphrase the great Mr Sheekey…
sheek said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:07am | Report comment
Thanks Brett,
The black knight has been getting a run lately….. not finished yet either, I think……….!!! P.S., I think Gatesy (another thread) might be in therapy, I hope he’s okay.
Kenny,
Spot on. You can accept your team losing as long as you believe they’ve done everything possible to win. That comment of Chisholm’s might have the effect of coming back to bite him on the backside. Dumb thing to say publicly, especially at this stage of proceedings.
Kenny said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:03am | Report comment
I think people can cope with losing as long as the team has a real crack. The rubbish Chisholm came out with is what people are tiring of. They promise the world then put in the most pathetic, lazy, dimwitted performances. Shut up and win a game before you talk of greatness.
Jameswm said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:22am | Report comment
You’re dead right Kenny
I’m sick of the Wallabies players talking it up. I want to see action – and that means real aggression, skill and teamwork on the paddock.
In their defence I think they have to serve someone up to the media every day during a slow news week, and what are the players supposed to say? We’re going badly and everyone’s head is down?
cookee said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:42am | Report comment
no they dont have to say anything that will give the opposition any advantage or motivation
thats no defence thats dumb and dumber country
LeftArmSpinner said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:38am | Report comment
I was listening to Liz Ellis commentating on the Aust Netball team’s second half collapse to the World team this week and I paraphrase: “Every Australian player needs to be re”
LeftArmSpinner said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:46am | Report comment
ooops….”every australian player needs to able to play at this level (national level and against the best) the moment that they pull on the Australian shirt. ” No excuses. No rebuilding, no sound bites, no pretending.
McMahon, current captain made it clear, very clear, that their second half performance was unacceptable for an Australian netball team. She wasnt concerned about what the playing squad thought of her critical, but accurate statements.
Compare this to Deans, Mortlock and Smiths pronouncements in similar situations. our young guys are coming on game by game, we need to concentrate more, no silly mistakes………The boys are way too precious about feelings…..
LeftArmSpinner said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:47am | Report comment
the netball girls are preparing for a test series against New Zealand.
cookee said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:52am | Report comment
LAS,at last some sanity and it comes from an aust womens netball capt;
i needed that,good call LAS im sick of the poppycock spin