NZ’s gift to Australian rugby feeling the heat
By Chris Laidlaw, 4 Sep 2009 Chris Laidlaw is a Roar Rookie
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Even though he can’t seem to take a trick in the Tri-Nations, Robbie Deans remains more or less free of the shots being fired at the Wallabies. Those shots are coming with more and more venom, but they still seem to be aimed at the players, which is odd really.
Normally, if there’s a Kiwi within sight any Australian worth his salt will turn his scorn on the poor cousin from the shaky isles rather than have a go at a fellow countryman.
But rugby is a bit different.
The relationship between New Zealand and Australia is a complex one and perhaps a little bit of that history is preserving the skin of our Robbie.
For a very long time, rugby union in Australia was a patient in an international casualty ward and New Zealand was the visiting physician.
Our people would regularly have to bail out the ARU and New Zealand was under regular pressure to come over and play so that union in Australia could be seen to be competing with league.
By and large, the Aussies were the All Blacks’ whipping boy.
From the first test ever played in 1903, before 30,000 fascinated and at times mystified spectators at the Sydney Cricket Ground, the pattern was established.
The All Blacks pounded away up the centre in forward rushes, monopolising possession, while the Australians looked for occasional opportunities to attack through their backs.
And New Zealand would win.
For most of the 20th century, rugby union in Australia was the skinny guy on the beach who got sand kicked in his face. Everywhere on rugby’s Australian horizon there was the hulking bully – rugby league.
New Zealand teams, more often than they might have wished, crossed the Tasman to fly the union flag and assistance by way of coaches and tactical advisers would often head for Australia to help the game along.
Professionalism changed much of that, of course, and so did the nasty fracas over the hosting of the 2003 World Cup in which neither of the national unions came up smelling of roses.
In some ways Australia-New Zealand rugby relations have mirrored the wider relationship.
It means a good deal more to New Zealanders to win against Australia rather than vice versa. We’re bad at losing to anyone, but we’re particularly bad at losing to Australia.
People still go round wearing those T-shirts with the mean-minded message: “I support New Zealand and any team that’s playing Australia”.
And they mean it.
It’s the big brother thing. Australia is bigger, wealthier, better endowed with natural resources, more assertive and more internationally ambitious than New Zealand.
New Zealand isn’t of much consequence across the Tasman although one suspects that it makes Australians feel more substantial knowing they can beat up on New Zealand whenever they want.
Except in rugby, where it’s rather more difficult.
Robbie Deans was, in a sense, a final, if rather begrudging gift from New Zealand rugby to Australia.
But how long will it be before they turn on him as the cause of their Test match drought?
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September 4th 2009 @ 9:50am
Worlds Biggest said | September 4th 2009 @ 9:50am | Report comment
Australian Rugby does owe NZ Rugby a huge deal of gratitude, we would be a minnow rugby nation if not for the All Blacks & to some degree the Springboks. If Dingo can somehow pull a rabbit out of a hat in 2011 RWC and win we will forever be indebted to our mates across the ditch. That is of course he is stil guiding the ship. I think he has been given a very good run thus far from all quarters in this Country. When does he start coming under fire ?. He made progress with the team last year however we seemed to have gone backwards this season. The Coach must take some responsibility.
September 4th 2009 @ 10:05am
fred said | September 4th 2009 @ 10:05am | Report comment
WB
exactly and now;at present he is scratching with the turkeys no rabbits around;best he takes a lead from LIZ ELLIS she has got bigger balls
September 4th 2009 @ 10:16am
Hansie said | September 4th 2009 @ 10:16am | Report comment
Maybe the NZRU did know what it was doing when Henry was signed as coach ahead of Deans?
September 4th 2009 @ 10:31am
Gudfala said | September 4th 2009 @ 10:31am | Report comment
If Deans was a ‘gift’ why did we pay so much money for him?
September 4th 2009 @ 10:58am
Vented Relief said | September 4th 2009 @ 10:58am | Report comment
Exactly. This talk of being given ‘gifts’ by the NZRU is absolute rubbish. They didn’t play a part in the RWC 03 because they were too stupid. They didn’t get Deans as a coach because they were too proud.
September 4th 2009 @ 11:02am
johnny-boy said | September 4th 2009 @ 11:02am | Report comment
It is possible as Chisolm said – the Wallabies are on the verge of greatness, hard tho it may be to beleive. They have the personel roughly in the right places now (providing Giteau gets shunted to 12). Deans may have done a good job re-moulding them in a different direction from the latter horror Jones and Connolly era but he has done a crap job so far on selections (too much mr nice guy) and in tapping Australians inherent positive attitude. Now he has been forced by public opinion to to cut the dead/stupid wood – it’s up to the players to grasp their own ‘australianess’ – as opposed to Dean’s kiwi conservative/negative oultook which I now believe may have been one of the significant factors that has been confusing the wallabies and holding them back. As John Smit will attest, begrudgingly, there is a lot less wrong with the Wallaby scrum now. The platform is fragile but it’s there and holding it’s own. The backs need to let it rip in true Ella/Aussie style.
ps I was heartened to hear James Connor’s childhood hero was Christian Cullen. A sweeter runner you’ll rarely see. Again a career butchered by dickhead smart alec ‘wonder coaches’ playing him out of position in a stroke of selection genius, not. I hope he doesnt let this happen to him.
September 4th 2009 @ 12:06pm
Hammer said | September 4th 2009 @ 12:06pm | Report comment
“As John Smit will attest, begrudgingly, there is a lot less wrong with the Wallaby scrum now” .. that’s because the SA front is adequate only – and that’s being favourable to it … the Wallabies have been shown up at scrum time against the AB’s – and I dear say will also get delt to in the UK in November …
The problem with the Wallabies is they can’t help themselves talking it up – yet don’t put the runs on the board … they’re forever looking for any excuss to say such and such is world class (Giteau, Moore, Robinson, Elsom, Barnes) … or our scrums now as good as the best (when it crumbles and goes backward against the ABs) … or Chisolm saying we’re so fit we run over sides in the last 20 – when the Boks have obviously taken their foot off the peddle or AB’s have monstered them in every second half …
It won’t change until they man up and admit there’s a very long away to go … and that starts with Deans and his daft assertions than we’re getting closer and we’re only one score away …
September 4th 2009 @ 11:07am
fred said | September 4th 2009 @ 11:07am | Report comment
nz sold us a pup;deans couldnt make the next step in 2003 and is surviving on speel now
tomorrow ,tomorrow until we all follow league. gift off home
September 4th 2009 @ 11:11am
BAS said | September 4th 2009 @ 11:11am | Report comment
The aussies are just astounding. Chilsom…what a muppet. Ricky Stuart, Matt Dunning, Ian Chappel I could go on and on and on…
September 4th 2009 @ 11:28am
sheek said | September 4th 2009 @ 11:28am | Report comment
Wrong BAS,
Ian Chappell is a legend. He led from the front. Today’s pampered cricketers owe him & his generation almost everything for giving them the lifestyle they enjoy today.
Chappelli talked the talk, & walked the walk. He rubs people up the wrong way simply because he doesn’t bother sugar-coating his comments. But quite often, he’s on the mark, all the same.
September 4th 2009 @ 1:35pm
Ziggy said | September 4th 2009 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
I first saw Ian Chappell in action against that great SA side in the 70s at Kingsmead, Durban. He got a rough decision that day and to top it all, the Aussies received a massive hiding.But what impressed us was his attitude – tough, no nonsense and full of self confidence. Although he failed miserably in that series it was already obvious that he had the makings of a great cricketer. Not the most engaging character but honest in his views and he performed when it really counted. Terrific leader.
September 4th 2009 @ 5:57pm
AndyS said | September 4th 2009 @ 5:57pm | Report comment
On the money sheek, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t a tool. He has always been my example of why sportsmen should be celebrated for their actions, but not held up as role models.
September 4th 2009 @ 10:09pm
sheek said | September 4th 2009 @ 10:09pm | Report comment
AndyS,
Hmmmm….. Chappell is abrasive, I’ll admit to that.
Interesting though, that his former team mates idolize him. Well, idolize is probably too strong a word, but they certainly think very highly of him. He’s still their skipper today, so to speak.
September 4th 2009 @ 12:19pm
Viscount Crouchback said | September 4th 2009 @ 12:19pm | Report comment
I don’t quite understand this constant urge of New Zealanders to rank themselves alongside the Australians. In geopolitical terms, it’s like Danny Devito resenting Tom Cruise for being so much taller than him.
September 4th 2009 @ 1:36pm
Ziggy said | September 4th 2009 @ 1:36pm | Report comment
LOL. Battle of the midgets?
September 4th 2009 @ 2:13pm
katzilla said | September 4th 2009 @ 2:13pm | Report comment
I don’t quite understand this constant urge of The British to rank themselves alongside the Americans. In geopolitical terms, it’s like Jude Law resenting Tom Cruise for being so much more American than him.
Fixed
September 4th 2009 @ 2:17pm
Viscount Crouchback said | September 4th 2009 @ 2:17pm | Report comment
I don’t think the British trouble themselves with the Americans, old bean. As the old legend has it:
In Washington Lord Halifax
Once whispered to Lord Keynes,
‘It’s true they have all the money-bags
But we have all the brains…”
September 4th 2009 @ 2:47pm
sheek said | September 4th 2009 @ 2:47pm | Report comment
VC,
You poor old poms still haven’t got over the pasting you copped 1776-83. Fancy letting some know-nothing, uncouth colonials get the better of you!
September 4th 2009 @ 3:38pm
BigAl said | September 4th 2009 @ 3:38pm | Report comment
mmmhh! . . . I’m afraid the Oscar Wilde blog is back that way – third tab to the left !
September 4th 2009 @ 2:37pm
circus said | September 4th 2009 @ 2:37pm | Report comment
Could someone please tell Chris Laidlaw that the puny Aussies have won two RWC’s to NZ”s one since the RWC was introduced in 1987. Perhaps the news didn’t filter through to Oxford.
September 4th 2009 @ 2:48pm
sheek said | September 4th 2009 @ 2:48pm | Report comment
Circus,
You really are being very selective with your history.
September 4th 2009 @ 2:45pm
jacko said | September 4th 2009 @ 2:45pm | Report comment
I’m more than happy with what RD is trying to do. He can hadly be blamed for errors that your average B grade U14′s team doesnt make.
RANT MODE ON
Its the whole jovial nature of the players that’s pooing me off big time. FFS, get angry at yourselves and the world. This la-la-la “we see the positives” crap is doing my head in! !! I wanna see a captain kicking players for poor performance on the field and taking some gaddamn leadership.
RANT MODE OFF
There, I feel better now…. (until saturday night where I will no doubt be shaking my head again….)
September 4th 2009 @ 3:24pm
fred said | September 4th 2009 @ 3:24pm | Report comment
your mate deans is peddling all this positive crap mate;dont shake your head too much your brain might fall out