Ronaldo and Messi to miss the World Cup?
By Mike Tuckerman, 8 Sep 2009 Mike Tuckerman is a Roar Expert
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Portugal's Christiano Ronaldo reacts after the drawn World Cup group 1 qualifying soccer match against Denmark at Parken in Copenhagen, Denmark, Saturday Sept. 5, 2009. Portugal badly needed a victory in Copenhagen to have a realistic chance of qualifying for next year's World Cup in South Africa. The Portuguese team has won just two of its six qualifying matches and drew another.(AP Photo/Tariq Mikkel Khan/POLFOTO)
The unedifying sight of a gaunt Diego Maradona trudging from the Rosario pitch should serve as a warning. A silly, sentimental choice as coach, Maradona had just overseen his team’s 3-1 World Cup qualifying defeat to Brazil.
It was Argentina’s first loss at home in World Cup qualifying since the Albiceleste were thrashed 5-0 by Colombia in Buenos Aires in 1993.
Meanwhile in European qualifying, a packed Parken Stadion in Copenhagen watched enthralled as Denmark and Portugal played out an absorbing 1-1 draw.
The point leaves Portugal hanging by a thread – with Cristiano Ronaldo and co. now seven points adrift of the group-leading Danes with three games to go.
Things would have been worse had Portugese debutant Liedson not beaten a stubborn Stephan Anderson with three minutes remaining.
The plight of two of the world’s best players goes some way to proving an age-old adage: it’s a team game after all.
Try telling that to Maradona, who has built his squad around the cult of Messi and players of his similarly short-framed ilk.
Sergio “Kun” Agüero is undoubtedly a fabulous player.
But the fact that he is consistently named over free-scoring Real Madrid striker Gonzalo Higuaín appears to have more to do with his resemblance to Maradona than his goalscoring ability.
When Argentina’s vertically-challenged front line of Messi and Carlos Tevez were being monstered by the powerful Brazilian defence, Maradona predictably had no Plan B.
It didn’t help that Maradona managed to alienate mercurial playmaker Juan Román Riquelme almost as soon as he took charge of the national team.
Riquelme’s international retirement has robbed Argentina of arguably their most influential creative presence – Messi notwithstanding.
Meanwhile Cristiano Ronaldo has never really hit the heights with Portugal that he once did for Manchester United.
Maybe it’s not being surrounded by the sort of players he graced the turf with at Old Trafford – although you’d think the likes of Ricardo Carvalho, Deco and current Real Madrid team-mate Pepe are pretty handy personnel.
Or perhaps it’s the constant pressure of trying to go one step further than former Portugese talisman Luís Figo, who despite all his talent, never won silverware with the national team.
Whatever it is, Ronaldo has never stamped his authority on international football the way he once did in the Premier League.
And now fans in South Africa are in danger of missing out on watching two of world football’s greatest stars strut their stuff.
It’s a sobering reminder that football is a game contested by eleven players each.
Indeed, the contrast with Dunga’s workmen-like Brazil is stark.
Like Maradona, Dunga has fashioned his Seleção much in his own image, with Brazil relying on the hard graft of players like Gilberto Silva and Felipe Melo as much as they do on the individual talents of Kaká and Robinho.
So it’s ironic that Dunga’s job now seems secure given the original howls of protest over his team’s artisanal style of football.
The same cannot be said for Maradona, whose appointment as Argentina coach is looking more like the unqualified disaster that many predicted.
Even if the legendary former midfielder manages to steer his team into the finals, it remains to be seen whether the Argentine Football Association keeps the faith with Maradona all the way to South Africa.
The likes of Argentina and Portugal are always going to be dark horses to win any World Cup tournament – provided they get there.
But with teams like Brazil, Germany and even – dare I say it – Korea Republic building much of their success on team work, both Ronaldo and Messi will need to conjure some personal brilliance to drag their respective sides over the line.
Otherwise the World Cup could be shorn of the sight of two of the world game’s most recognisable players – hardly the festival of football that FIFA are hoping for.
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September 8th 2009 @ 10:41am
Brian said | September 8th 2009 @ 10:41am | Report comment
Diego not the only dud coach the French may miss out too.
September 8th 2009 @ 10:42am
Greg Russell said | September 8th 2009 @ 10:42am | Report comment
Mike,
Yesterday morning I heard the radio reports about Argentina being in grave danger of missing out on the World Cup. So I consulted trusty old Wikipedia, and what did I find? That with just 3 games to go, Argentina are in an automatic qualifying place, 2 points and several goals worth of GD ahead of their nearest opposition. So basically they are one win ahead.
And even if they do get overtaken and finish 5th, they would have a play-off against the 4th-ranked team from CONCACAF, which at the moment is Costa Rica (although it could equally end up being Mexico, USA or Honduras). Where is the fear in this for Argentina? (given it will be two legs).
OK, Argentina may not be in as strong a position as they should be, but their position is still a favorable one. Or am I missing something?
If the real story here is that Diego Armando is not succeeding as a head coach, then what’s the story? This is a bit like making a story out of Lleyton Hewitt losing to Roger Federer – what else did any sensible person expect?
September 8th 2009 @ 10:46am
whiskeymac said | September 8th 2009 @ 10:46am | Report comment
well Henry has at least been in a final or two… germany’s the best example of good teams with good players beating Ok teams with great players. and with their new crop of u21s blitzing all before them recently the next 10 years might be germany’s again!
without Messi or ronaldo the comp might be poorer ins ome respects but will give someone else the chance to shine.. any takers? Xavi, Torres and Fabregas stand out for me from Spain, Sneijder for Holland and possibly…possibly…cahill for us?
September 8th 2009 @ 10:52am
Colin N said | September 8th 2009 @ 10:52am | Report comment
That German U-21 side wasn’t that great. There are a couple of players from that group who will become excellent players such as Ozil, but there aren’t many.
September 8th 2009 @ 3:30pm
FIsher Price said | September 8th 2009 @ 3:30pm | Report comment
But Stuart Pearce’s mob were like a League Two outfit compared to that German side… talk about ‘anti-football’.
September 8th 2009 @ 10:20pm
Colin N said | September 8th 2009 @ 10:20pm | Report comment
I thought we were talking about the German U-21 side?
September 8th 2009 @ 3:29pm
FIsher Price said | September 8th 2009 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
Cahill? Hahahahahahahahahahaha!!
September 8th 2009 @ 10:20pm
Colin N said | September 8th 2009 @ 10:20pm | Report comment
How very constructive.
September 8th 2009 @ 10:56am
Mike Tuckerman said | September 8th 2009 @ 10:56am | Report comment
Greg – the issue is that Argentina are still to play away at Paraguay and arch-rivals Uruguay, with a home fixture against cellar dwellers Peru sandwiched in between.
Uruguay are only four points behind the Argentines with three games to play, so it’s hardly a sure thing for Diego and his side.
September 8th 2009 @ 12:02pm
davelee said | September 8th 2009 @ 12:02pm | Report comment
ha! Argentina will qualify. Paraguay will be qualified by then, the Argies will get up.
The big story is not only Portugal but also France and the Czech Republic. No Ribery, Henry, Baros, Cech at WC2010.
September 8th 2009 @ 12:25pm
Art Sapphire said | September 8th 2009 @ 12:25pm | Report comment
Czech’s not qualifying is no great surprise davelee – their golden era is over.
How the French kept Domenech in charge is one of the great mysteries of the universe.
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“Henry turns on Domenech”
French football is in turmoil after the national manager, Raymond Domenech, came under fire from his players led by Thierry Henry, who told him that Les Bleus have “no organisation, no style, no guidance and no identity”.
Domenech is under pressure across the Channel after France failed to beat Romania on Saturday, drawing 1-1 in Paris. They now go into a crucial match against Serbia, who top Group Seven, in Belgrade tomorrow knowing that if they lose they can no longer qualify automatically.
Domenech tried to spark a reaction from his players prior to the Romania game by questioning their hunger, but Henry is reported to have responded by saying: “I have been in the France team for 12 years and never have I been in this situation. We do not know how to play, where to go, there is no organisation. There is no style, no guidance and no identity.”
September 8th 2009 @ 3:32pm
FIsher Price said | September 8th 2009 @ 3:32pm | Report comment
Spot on. He’s survived, what, two terribly poor tournament showings already? Unbelievable.
September 8th 2009 @ 1:13pm
Brian said | September 8th 2009 @ 1:13pm | Report comment
The Czech’s have been on a sliding slope since 2004, when Nedved was at his peak. France & Argentina are amazing, with Spain and Brazil those four should be the world’s top 4 right now. In fact given that both France & Argentina will either fail to qualify or keep their current coach, and no European country has won outside Europe I am quite tempted to have a flutter on the Samba boys.
September 8th 2009 @ 1:30pm
Ben of Phnom Penh said | September 8th 2009 @ 1:30pm | Report comment
It’s Côte d’Ivoire that has raised my eyebrows; a goal difference of 12 after four games………..
September 8th 2009 @ 2:04pm
Horza said | September 8th 2009 @ 2:04pm | Report comment
Well, they’re in a group with Malawi, Burkina Faso and Guinea…
September 8th 2009 @ 7:23pm
David V. said | September 8th 2009 @ 7:23pm | Report comment
Who are all better than the majority of sides CONCACAF and Asia have to offer, and on a level with some European teams.
September 8th 2009 @ 2:16pm
Rooster said | September 8th 2009 @ 2:16pm | Report comment
Ronaldo has 22 goals in 65 games internationally…. a very decent and respectable amount. In the 2006 WC qualifying round he finished 2nd in the european zone for goals scored. He’ll most likely finish his career as Portugal’s all time scorer.
That’s not to excuse his poor goal results this campaign, He should have at least netted 1 goal on saturday from his 12 shots. But the effort is there, and all any fan can really ask is a player give his best and hope the results fall in line.
If Portugal can play the same way in their final 3 games they’ll most likely end up 2nd in the group. (as long as Denmark can play with the same effort against Sweden)
September 9th 2009 @ 6:57am
Robbos said | September 9th 2009 @ 6:57am | Report comment
Yes I agree, I would prefer his int’l CV to most players (22 goals from 66 games, only 24 years old, WC semi & Euro finalists). But he sets such a high standard that yes his int’l career is not up there with club career, but the same can be said about Messi, Kaka & many more.
September 8th 2009 @ 2:25pm
Pippinu said | September 8th 2009 @ 2:25pm | Report comment
The continental system of qualifications has always been flawed and lacked all logic.
September 8th 2009 @ 2:32pm
Viscount Crouchback said | September 8th 2009 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
Especially this year. There are some incredibly weak European groups this time. The seedings have got totally out of whack somewhere along the line.
September 8th 2009 @ 7:25pm
David V. said | September 8th 2009 @ 7:25pm | Report comment
“Incredibly week” ignores the tremendous strength in depth of European football, which it has always possessed, and the fact that the closeness and ease of travel levels the playing field.