
New Zealand's Dan Carter, right, is tackled by Australia's Nathan Sharpe during the Bledisloe Cup rugby match in Sydney, Australia, Saturday, Aug. 22, 2009. New Zealand won the match 19-18 and retain the Bledisloe Cup.(AP Photo/Rob Griffith)
In just about any rugby conversation you come across these days, the talk turns to kicking, particularly kicking for goal. “There are too many penalties!” the naysayers argue.
Metronome-boots like Dan Carter and Morne Steyne are apparently spoiling the spectacle. After all, we opine, rugby was meant to be a running game.
This is not entirely true, but the barflies don’t let the facts get in the way of an attractive argument. As most of us are probably aware, even a try was originally just that in the old days – a try at goal. The only reason you wanted to get the ball over the line, was so that you could have a kick at goal for some points.
So kicking has always been a part of the game. More than just a running game, rugby has been a game for all seasons, all countries and all body types.
The stodgy Poms, fed up on fish, chips and lager and 6 hours of sunshine topped off with an inch of rain a day, understandably perfected the rolling maul and the kick for position. Combine that with every kid growing up kicking a round ball for the first 10 years of life, and it’s hardly surprising that some of the great goalkickers like Jonny Wilkinson and Rob Andrew have been English.
For the South Africans, the combination of heat, altitude and rock hard tracks, along with the preponderance of carnivorous forwards who block out the sun, encouraged a love affair with the set piece, and a preference for the field goal. Better that than running yourself to a standstill in Everest thin air, and then getting slammed to earth on a field only slightly softer than the average car park. As a result, Naas Botha, Joel Stransky and Jannie de Beer were all famous exponents of the droppie.
As for the Aussies, it’s a wonder that our famously laid back approach hasn’t led to more great goalkickers, although Matt Burke and Michael Lynagh are without doubt two of the world’s best. Maybe it has something with the more forgiving field conditions in Australia, or the famous cry of Australian sporting crowds “Have a go ya mug!” that leads us to generally prefer running over kicking.
That said, we haven’t missed the chance to win the odd important contest with a kick (thanks for the memories Bernie Larkham…), so we’ve no reason to get on our moral high horse.
Anyway, the point of all that is that whether we like it or not, the penalty goal and the field goal are an essential part of the game. Whether it is a Larkham or Wilkinson kicking a drop goal to win a World Cup semi-final or final, or an Eales or a Mortlock knocking one over on the bell to win the Tri-Nations, you can’t get away from the goal as a crucial play.
The problem arises when you have one guy knocking them over 6 or 8 of them in a game off the back of several refereeing decisions which may or may not have been interpreted entirely correctly. When the whole fabric of the game changes because teams have got some freak who can knock goals over from 60 metres 80 percent of the time, then we’ve got a problem Houston.
Of course, we can’t change the value of the penalty goal or the field goal. It’s too drastic and simply encourages infringements, because two points, or even one, is not penalty enough.
Changing the laws to discourage penalties doesn’t work either – it’s a proven way to annoy everyone and not actually change much. And anyway, as we’ve seen from both the Boks and the Lions during the 2009 Lions Tour of South Africa, and also the recent Wallabies win over South Africa, teams who want to play running rugby under the current laws can. The laws don’t stop them. Neither should the laws stop them kicking if they want to.
It’s really just the fact that one player with a ridiculously specific skill can have such a huge influence on a match – that’s the problem. An average team with a great kicker can often beat a good team with an average kicker, and that’s not what rugby should be about, no matter whether you’re an Aussie, a Pom, a Kiwi or a Boks fan.
So how do we change the situation without changing the points, and without changing the playing laws?
Simple. We limit each player to one successful goal per match. Once you’ve kicked one goal, that’s it. Neeeext.
Imagine the raft of possibilities which suddenly open up.
No longer do we have one freak player who dominates one part of the contest – the responsibilities are shared across the team. And why not? All players tackle, all players run and all players ruck and maul. So why shouldn’t all players kick for goal?
Of course, it’s going to be pretty rare that a prop or a lock is going to get the chance to have a crack at goal, since it’s not often that a team kicks more than five or six goals per game. The backs will take most of the shots, but it does open up the chance for an Eales-type to have a crack after about four or five goes.
Think of the strategic to-ing and fro-ing. Do we let Wilkinson take an early shot from in front, or do we save him for the tough match-winner later on? Do we give the penalty in front of the posts in the first 5 minutes to Rocky Elsom, or do we get someone better to make sure of it?
As a defending team, do we willingly infringe because they’ve already used three of their good kickers, or do we unwittingly gift a free shot to a guy who turns out to be an undiscovered goalkicking gem?
It’s interesting to see how this might play out. If pick a recent close match with plenty of goals as an example – say the Perth match between the Wallabies and Springboks – it could have gone something like this. First conversion goes to Fourie du Preez in the 7th minute, then Morne Steyn knocks a penalty over in the 17th. Matt Giteau follows with a penalty in the 28th and then Ruan Pienaar converts a try in the 34th. All of these players are now out of the kicking stakes.
The 40th minute penalty for the Wallabies would probably have been kicked by James O’Connor, and then maybe Adam Ashley-Cooper steps up to convert at 44 minutes. By the 54th minute conversion the Springboks are up to their fourth kicker for the night, most likely Jean de Villiers, then their fifth in Jacques Fourie for a penalty in the 68th minute.
By now the Wallabies are giving Peter Hynes a conversion attempt in the 81st minute, and if the Springboks had to go again, they may be tempted to give a forward a go, someone like Pierre Spies.
Of course, it’s not to say that these players would be used in this order. Several factors would influence the selection of kickers, factors such as where the kicks are awarded, whether they are conversions or penalties, what the score is and how far into the match we are. Regardless, the strategy would be fascinating and would give the fans a whole new dimension to debate. Imagine the roars of “Beeeeast” from the terraces as Tendai Mtawarira lines up a crucial conversion. Picture Richie McCaw dropping back in the pocket to have a crack at a drop goal. If nothing else it would put a whole new set of decisions on the captain.
The point is that this is a good middle ground between the current situation and a wholesale law change. Everything remains the same, and you can still have as many kicks as you want, but you just can’t have one guy taking all of them.
In tight games, the focus swings back to the rugby as it rightly should, since you can’t always rely on your kicker. Successful kicks become a bonus rather than a foregone conclusion. Teams only opt for one kick from 50 metres instead of three or four. And in games which are blowouts, at least everyone gets to have a crack at the posts.
If you’re still having trouble imagining, just remember John Eales stepping up as a replacement kicker to win the Tri-Nations and the Bledisloe in 2000.
Just think of it – we could be having that sort of intrigue every single game.
It’s got legs I reckon, so forwards across the globe, dust off those kicking boots. Your moment of glory is nigh.
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September 9th 2009 @ 5:55am
Michael C said | September 9th 2009 @ 5:55am | Report comment
Forgive me as a non RU person – I’d love a reasoned answer on this -
I wonder
A. why the try scorer isn’t compelled to take his own conversion kick? (surely that would force more people to be more adept by foot!!! – - in a code of football)
B. what if England had 3 guys with Wilkinson’s kicking ability – - surely that would force a defensive line to be so concerned about not allowing kicks that try scoring would become easier as the defensive line would have a greater focus that would potentially create more holes.
Anyway, I admit totally to ignorance – I just wonder.
September 9th 2009 @ 8:22am
Pippinu said | September 9th 2009 @ 8:22am | Report comment
MC
The second point is a valid question.
Teams can defend agaisnt the sharp shooters – if they truly want – but you’re right – it leaves an unbalanced defensive formation and that may let in tries.
So in defending tries, teams knowingly allow greater options for teams with kickers to land field goals – coaches have to decide how their game plan is going to work – where the empahsis is – if the emphasis is on stopping tries, then that means there most likely will be more field goals.
I don’t quite see the issue – this is precisely the sort of dynamic you want in a game – where opposing coaches have to make decisions and where they can be caught off guard by the other team doing something a little unpredictable.
Think about the game agaisnt the Boks two games back, where they unexpectedly scored 4 tries or something – we want to be surprised – the game still produces surprises for those looking for them.
September 9th 2009 @ 8:30am
fox said | September 9th 2009 @ 8:30am | Report comment
Not one of your better ideas.
September 9th 2009 @ 8:44am
Rah Rah Rasputin said | September 9th 2009 @ 8:44am | Report comment
Dropping the value of a penalty from 3 points to 2 points is the best way of achieving more attractive play. If teams continue to infringe then the ref should simply start carding players. Less players means more room for tries, or atleast attacking play.
September 9th 2009 @ 8:52am
Pippinu said | September 9th 2009 @ 8:52am | Report comment
I’m not sure if sending blokes off for relatively minor infringements is the solution to anything.
The idea should be about reducing the penalty count, rather than giving an inducement to increase it.
September 9th 2009 @ 1:52pm
Campbell Watts said | September 9th 2009 @ 1:52pm | Report comment
I disagree Pip,
Carding blokes for all the cynical infringments we see today is EXACTLY what we should be promoting. 2 points for a penalty and a card for any killing the ball when a team is hot on attack – after all these cynical infringments are often stopping a try!! The thing we’re all wanting to see more of!!
September 9th 2009 @ 1:59pm
Pippinu said | September 9th 2009 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Yeh – but if 15 vs 14 or 13 becomes a common occurrence – I’m not sure if that is a really good outcome either.
People are paying money to see a fair contest – not a handicap event.
September 9th 2009 @ 8:47am
johno said | September 9th 2009 @ 8:47am | Report comment
This is a completely flawed argument, your initial statement contradicts itself:
“So how do we change the situation without changing the points, and without changing the playing laws?
Simple. We limit each player to one successful goal per match. Once you’ve kicked one goal, that’s it. Neeeext.
Imagine the raft of possibilities which suddenly open up.”
You have just changed the the laws of the game, by changing who is allowed to kick and when, but this is not where the flaw in the fabric of modern rugby lies, or even where we should turn our attention to.
The issue is not the kicking at goal, but the awarding of the penalties. There are three areas that consistently influence games and the policing of said areas are either lacking, as in the kick and chase; The rule states clearly that no player may advance that is in front of the kicker, yet this seemingly never happens, or it is not blown consistently for both teams, or consistently in all situations.
At scrum time it is an absolute lottery. If you have a look at the IRB’s reply to PDV’s query, it basically came down to a matter of interpretation. The tackle / ruck situation is also a lottery. A lottery based on the interpretation of one person, that may or may not hold one part of the many conflicting rules in higher regard than the other rules, from moment to moment, team to team in any given game.
The end result is that you have to many chances for the interpretations of somebody that may be biased that could end up influencing the game. And don’t tell me you haven’t run into a ref that just hasn’t liked you yet on a club field or wherever you played the game. It doesn’t have to be blatant, and it usually isn’t, it could be as subtle as Bryce and the IRB’s ‘interpretation’ excuse at scrum time. All any player wants is for the rules to be applied consistently, but at the moment that is virtually impossible. We need to move away from subjectivity and try to replace it with objectivity wherever possible. This, I will concede is easier said than done in some instances.
If we do not go down this road we empower someboody like Bryce Lawrence to influence not only the current game but potentially the outcome of a series of games. What he effectively did was to neutralise the Springbok’s try scoring abillities from first phase, which is where they ripped Australia appart and scored half of their tries from. My perception is that he was as if he was in damage limitation mode to try and keep the All Blacks and the series alive, either for crowd attendance figures or for whatever other reason.
You can’t tell me that the Springboks having demolished the Lions in the first test at scrum time with Bryce in charge, and then having gone on to be on a relative par with the Lions in the next two tests, or were at least not completely dominated by them with different refs, changed their tacticts to such an extent to amass the ammount of penalties that Bryce dished out to them in the Perth test. Then there’s also the issue of the same team ammasing 15 penalties in one test which is nearly as much as they gave away in three previous tri nations encounters. With the team that has been penalised the most, only giving away a meager 4 penalties. I’m sorry, but the odds on something like that must be very high.
Add to this that this is the team that has addapted to the interpretations of various refs the best in the past two months and well, I think there’s definetly a picture starting to develope.
Either it is the interpretations of the two hemisphere’s that are influencing the outcome of games, or somebody is not being completely honest and once again merely hiding behind the convenient excuse of ‘interpretation’.
In either case, it could be argued that, seen in this light of inconsistency the Springbok’s protest earlier this year may not have been as offensive as thought in certain circles. It could also be interpreted that what’s happening now, with the ammount of penalties dished out to the Springboks, since the trend seemed to have persisted in the most current test, and only seemed to emmerge once sentence had been passed on SARFU is an attempt by the IRB to alter the behaviour of the Boks by way of onn-field sanction.
The bottom line is that there is just to much power in the hands of individual officials, who are above and beyond reproach, that are either not competent or are unable to cope with the continual pressure of making split second decisions or are incapable of policing all areas of the game effectively, or are merely corrupt or biased.
So if you want to change anything, why not change this. Cricket seems to be heading in that direction. The point being that at the end of the day it affects people’s livelihoods. I’m sure that all of us can name one cricketer who had a run of bad decissions got dropped and never got a chance again. Could the same not be applied to Rugby, or at leat team sport in general for that matter?
September 9th 2009 @ 9:09am
pothale said | September 9th 2009 @ 9:09am | Report comment
I presume we could apply the same kind of logic to try-scorers for us NH types. Rather than watch wingers like Habana or whoever cross the try line time and again, they’re limited to one try per game, then it’s up to the other players.
And lineouts, why do we have to watch Victor Matfield get the ball time and time again. It has to vary between each of the players in the lineout after each throw.
And then there’s passing. Why is it the scrum half gets to put in the ball the whole time – stick him out on the wing after the first put in, and let someone else do it for a change.
Much more variety.
September 9th 2009 @ 1:59pm
Campbell Watts said | September 9th 2009 @ 1:59pm | Report comment
Good Point Potty!
To take it a step further – you can’t have the same guys attacking AND defending – lets start having more blokes on the sidelines. Once you’ve lost possesion to the other team stop play, swap players and continue. We could have a whole onther team even! Maybe something like a defensive team and an attacking team! Oh hang on that sounds like American football!!
A stupid idea sorry Andrew
September 9th 2009 @ 9:18am
Brett McKay said | September 9th 2009 @ 9:18am | Report comment
Andrew, I have to admit that after the heading and intro, I too thought I would be joining the chorus of dissenters to this idea, but the way you’ve presented the arguement now makes me think maybe this is worth experimenting with. I wouldn’t say you’ve won me over, but I like the way you think.
Was it Leinster and Leicester that had a HC semi decided by the drop goal shoot-out earlier this year?? Whoever, Spiro wrote a piece at the time condemning the shoot-out concept, and as with the same arguement in the world game circles, the opinions were divided. I watched the HC shoot out clip on YouTube and loved it, I thought it was a great spectacle of what is a genuine skill in rugby. This suggestion could bring in similar elements of theatre. Imagine if Mark Chisholm – after his now infamous comments last Thursday – won the game on Sat night with a sideline conversion?!? He’d just about have a national holiday declared in his honour!!
Of course, as with the football and drop-goal shootouts, it’d be a terrible way to lose….
September 9th 2009 @ 10:32am
Tiger Town said | September 9th 2009 @ 10:32am | Report comment
I think William Webb Ellis’s little daliance has finally reached its end point. Time to reign it all back in again. Ban handling of the ball. That will get rid of all rugby’s penalties and tiresome scrambles.
September 9th 2009 @ 11:50am
mitzter said | September 9th 2009 @ 11:50am | Report comment
as soon as when soccer removes their ‘no handling’ rule than we can all return to traditional football
September 9th 2009 @ 11:52am
Pippinu said | September 9th 2009 @ 11:52am | Report comment
Fortunately, we live in a country that learned to walk the middle ground a good 150 years ago.
God bless Australia!!
September 9th 2009 @ 10:57am
LeftArmSpinner said | September 9th 2009 @ 10:57am | Report comment
Andrew, we hasve seen the light. sure the ELV’s could and would imprive the game, but, not having them plays into the hands of a team who can play complete rugby. unrelenting pressure: at set peice, the breakdown, the defence and then in attack. penalties will come and the game will be lost and the defecne will wiit as a consequence.
Given that this is the footy that the Wallabies (and please, please, please the Tahs) are trying to play, lets not allow the opposition to get out of it by rules changes……..
but, if you want to spread the need for skill, have more half time entertainment that pits the fatties in the front row racing eachother. Tahs did it in 2009 and it was great fun…………fatties trying to run!!!! just like forwards trying to kick goals.
September 9th 2009 @ 11:08am
Wilso said | September 9th 2009 @ 11:08am | Report comment
Loges, I can’t align myself with the dissenters – this is an absolute cracker of an idea. I think the majority of the above comments have in fact missed the point(s) – no pun intended.
[Incidentally, I still think that reducing the points value of goal kicks has merits - you suggest that it will encourage infringements but I bet my yellow card trumps your increased enthusiasm for ignoring the rules....]
As for the general kicking in the course of the game, yes, it needs to be addressed and, yes, I think the Stellenbosch changes fixed something that wasn’t broke. Super solution: increase tries to 6 or 7 points (anything that encourages Les Bleus to entertain us is worth introducing), reduce PGs to 2 (anything that pisses off the Poms is worth introducing), reduce FGs to 1 (anything that pisses off the Sth Africans is worth introducing), limit the shots at goal to one per person and otherwise bring back some of the older rules about kicking out of the 22 etc. Might as well bring back the biff, too, while we are at it.
Back to your idea though: finally, all that goal kicking that the three fat guys up front do at Tues / Thurs training will have a purpose (over and above avoiding sprint training). Over the years, I have witnessed some frontrowers with transendant right foot swings that would leave Burkey and Noddy questioning their role as the team’s first choice goalkicker – it’s just that culturally, coaches (even those who themselves are ex-forwards) do not seem to accept that forwards, too, are capable of slotting the pill between the sticks.
It’s my understanding that the Silver Foxes are introducing this rule, formally, at their next outing in Griffith later this month. Kearns, Blades and Harry, temper thy excitement…