Axed McKenzie freed up for Victorian Super 15 job
By Jim Morton, 10 Sep 2009
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- Christophe Dominici, European Cup, Ewen McKenzie, NSW Waratahs, Rugby Union, Super 15, Victorian Rugby, Wallabies coach
Ewen McKenzie has firmed as a prime candidate to coach Victoria’s proposed Super 15 team after being a stunned victim of the cut-throat nature of French rugby.
The former Melbourne schoolboy suffered a shock axing as Stade Francais’ head coach just five rounds into the Top 14, a season after he took them to the semi-finals.
Club owner Max Guazzini said the former NSW Waratahs’ message had stopped getting through to his players, a claim flatly denied by McKenzie.
The former Wallabies prop and assistant Test coach, to return to Australia in the coming days, felt he and assistant coach Christophe Dominici were the scapegoats for a slow start to the competition.
Paris-based Stade Francais, the Top 14′s pink-coloured glamour club, sit second last with one win, a draw and three losses.
McKenzie said he and the flamboyant Guazzini were philosophically opposed and he paid the price for perceptions his team wouldn’t draw big crowds to Stade de France.
“We’re at the wrong end of the table but that said two wins and you’re in first place,” McKenzie told Sky Sports Radio.
“We’re not exactly in dire straits but the way the team is organised a lot is around bums on seats for the big games and the owner wanted to do something different.
“This is not an unusual in French sport.
“Often if you’re not getting what you want the public execution of the coach is part of the emotional solutions the French subscribe to.”
McKenzie, educated at Melbourne’s Scotch College, is understood to be on the short-list of potential coaches for the two Victorian syndicates bidding for the new Super 15 license.
He admitted he’d given little thought to his next move but said his situation should serve as a warning with Australian rugby’s moves towards private ownership.
“To me it’s been a lesson. There’s talk of moving to private equity teams in rugby and this has been one of the interesting by-products of private equity,” McKenzie said.
“You are at the whim of a person … which can have a major impact.
“It’s not actually about the coaching. You can’t sack the players so you sack the coach and that sends the message, that’s my interpretation of it.”
McKenzie, who helped recruit Mark Gasnier to the Paris club, is the second Australian coach to have his term cut short at Stade Francais’ after John Connolly took them to two European Cup finals in 2000 and 2001.
“It’s cut-throat and it’s a real test of your coaching ability because you are a foreigner,” former Wallabies coach Connolly said.
“It’s a hard gig, there’s a soccer mentality to it I guess.
“In my first year in France half the (Top 14) coaches were gone by Christmas.”
McKenzie, who took the Waratahs to the Super 12/14 finals in three of his five seasons in charge, lamented how he’d attempted to change the club’s style to suit Guazzini’s crowd-pulling desires.
His team was averaging 30 points a game, the best in the competition, but they also had the worst defence.
“It’s sort of ironic,” McKenzie said.
“I’m being classified as a conservative coach and defence-oriented but that’s what’s letting us down at the moment and in fact attack has been our strength.
“Philosophically we (Guazzini and McKenzie) have been running in parallel and trying to get that to merge but it hasn’t really happened.”
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September 10th 2009 @ 10:37am
Brett McKay said | September 10th 2009 @ 10:37am | Report comment
Worlds, thanks for the clarification – I knew Chieka was with Leinster or Leicester, but wasn’t sure which one with my limited following of the European comps, also hence the “reasonable success” description. He’s had outstanding success then, if I may self-correct.
Pip, if the Vics could play closer to how the Wallabies played Saturday just gone, rather than the Saturday before, then the crowds will come. Somewhere closer to the Brumbies of 2000-04 and further away from the Waratahs of 2007-09 would be the aim, if I was to suggest a style…
September 10th 2009 @ 10:54am
Redb said | September 10th 2009 @ 10:54am | Report comment
I think it would be a smart move to get Mckenzie as a Victorian – would demonstrate the links the game has had in Melbourne for many years.
Redb
September 10th 2009 @ 12:43pm
Working Class Rugger said | September 10th 2009 @ 12:43pm | Report comment
There a strong chance that McKenzie will get the gig. It’s an opportunity to good to miss for a Vic Super Team to have a Victorian at the helm. As Redb points out it would be smart. I also believe given Elsom one year deal and Digby Ioane living there they will be chasing both those Victorian born plaqyer’s hard aswell. They will be trying to establish that connection early and whatever shape the Vic Team takes I’d imagine those three would be on the top of there palying and staff wishlist.
However, to produce entertaining Rugby I’d chase Cheika. He has a history of producing sides such as that. Former Randwick 1st Grade coach where it is part of the clubs culture to keep it in hands and go for it. That would be the style you’d want for a new team. Todd Louden would be another good one. Haven’t seen alot of Steve Meheen’s Bath team so can’t pass judgement there.
However, it would be good to see Chieka get a S15 gig but if Victoria don’t want him and Hickey stuffs it as he did this year and plays the same BS gameplan (when he has a red hot backline and dominant pack for next season) as a NSW fan and Randwick man I’d like to welcome to apply for the Tahs job.
September 10th 2009 @ 1:50pm
Invictus said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
Hickey is up against the wall with the blindfold on! With Barnes running the back line the major weakness of the Waratahs has been rectified. The faithful will expect resutls, quite rightly, and failure too deliver will result in the order to fire being given….
September 10th 2009 @ 1:26pm
Brett McKay said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:26pm | Report comment
Perhaps the link (pun intended) isn’t as obvious as we thought – Wayne Smith’s opening para in The Australian today:
“FORMER Waratahs coach Ewen McKenzie could come into the reckoning as chief executive — not coach — of Victoria’s proposed Super 15 team after being given the pink slip by Stade Francais just five games into the 38-match French Top 14 season.”
Article goes on to quote McKenzie directly, and he shows some level of interest in a non-coaching gig for the Vics…
September 10th 2009 @ 1:35pm
cookee said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:35pm | Report comment
yep ;the timing and circumstances all point to mckenzie at the helm
nobody has learned personally why culture and people skills are invaluable to success;
mckenzie would also understand that preparation is the key to the above.
clearly a business is only as good as its people and must be a compatible group.
its a no brainer
September 10th 2009 @ 1:39pm
katzilla said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:39pm | Report comment
Is Bob Dwyer too old to coach the Vics?
September 10th 2009 @ 1:47pm
couchnorm said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:47pm | Report comment
I read on the net today that McCall is talking to Mooney about his future with the Reds.
McKenzie may have another option other than Melbourne?
September 10th 2009 @ 1:50pm
PastHisBest said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:50pm | Report comment
Too old or too out of touch…take your pick.
September 10th 2009 @ 1:53pm
Working Class Rugger said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:53pm | Report comment
Invictus
Dead on. With Barnes running the show a finals berth is my minimum next season. If not. As above.
September 10th 2009 @ 1:56pm
Dexter William said | September 10th 2009 @ 1:56pm | Report comment
He failed at the Tahs and now Stade.
But he is good to go at Victoria. LOL.
Why is he even going to be considered?
We already have one boring coach in Hickey, another one would make watching the S15 revolting.Yup.
Are we so devoid of ideas and talent in Australia? Surely not. Give someone with potential a crack at it.
I would really love to see Rod Kaffer having a go. I can see him being a really good coach.
September 10th 2009 @ 2:12pm
couchnorm said | September 10th 2009 @ 2:12pm | Report comment
I wouldn’t say MeKenzie failed at the Tahs
Rod Kaffer coached at Saracens and was dismmissed due to poor performances mid way through the season. I would think he is happy what he is doing now; telling us all about how to play the game.
September 10th 2009 @ 2:32pm
True Tah said | September 10th 2009 @ 2:32pm | Report comment
I actually enjoy Kafers insight, although I think he has a habit of drawing lines for the sake of it.
September 10th 2009 @ 2:35pm
Dexter William said | September 10th 2009 @ 2:35pm | Report comment
Well, you are most welcome to say that CentreLink did not fail. But if you have been a long suffering Tah fan like me and having to watch the ugly way the Tahs play, you would think twice to say that. And in the end, he was let go after a few years of boredom that did not result is any great achievement albeit getting to one final. But the truth be said, he had the best cattle in the S14 comp and wasted his opportunities.
Rod Kaffer was player coach if I remembered correctly and perhaps half a season of full time coaching. To dismiss him on the half season of full time coaching is not really a fair go is it. CentreLink had 4 or 5 seasons with the Tahs and now he is sacked 5 games into the season, so how is he suddenly so popular? Fair’s fair.