Troubled 1930s was good for Aussie rugby
By sheek, 11 Sep 2009 sheek is a Roar Guru
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Many younger rugby fans might think that it wasn’t until 1996 and the creation of the ACT Brumbies that Australian rugby had three provinces. Many younger rugby fans might also think that Victoria’s push for the fifteenth Super license is a push into unexplored territory.
Yet, what rugby fans of most ages might not appreciate is that in the 1930s Victoria presented itself as a genuine third rugby state. Sadly, the onset of World War 2 arrested the development of rugby in Victoria, and they were never able to regain their pre-eminence of the 30s.
Why was Victorian rugby so strong in the 30s?
Part of the reason lies in the fact that Melbourne was still the economic and business capital of Australia at that time.
This was still the age of sea travel, and ships traveling from Europe around the Cape of Good Hope and across the Indian ocean, stopped at Melbourne before Sydney.
Because Melbourne was the business capital of Australia, some good players from Sydney, Brisbane and New Zealand gravitated there for work, and ended up injecting their quality into the local competition and state team.
The Victorians played against both the All Blacks and Springboks in the 30s, and beat NSW and Queensland at least once.
Let’s look at composite best teams for Victoria, New South Wales and Queensland in the 1930s.
Victoria XV:
15-Bob Westfield, 14-Max Carpenter, 13-Gordon Sturtridge, 12-Dave Cowper(c), 11-Roo Dorr, 10-Bill Hammon, 9-Toby Cumming, 8-Fred Kerr, 7-Owen Bridle, 6-Moey Blundell, 5-Weary Dunlop, 4-Stan Bissett, 3-George Pearson, 2-Nicky Barr, 1-Ted Jessep.
NSW XV
15-Alec Ross(c), 14-Owen Crossman, 13-Cyril Towers, 12-Syd King, 11-Jockey Kelaher, 10-Bill Richards, 9-Syd Malcolm, 8-Jack Ford, 7-Keith Windon, 6-Aub Hodgson, 5-Bill White, 4-Huck Finlay, 3-Wild Bill Cerutti, 2-Alby Stone, 1-Ron Walden.
Queensland XV:
15-Jack Steggall, 14-Doug McLean, 13-Winston Ide, 12-Dooney Hayes, 11-Gordon McGhie, 10-Welly Lewis, 9-Gordon Bennett, 8-Boyd Oxlade, 7-Jim Clark, 6-John McDonald, 5-Bill McLean, 4-Graham Cooke, 3-Vay Wilson(c), 2-Eddie Bonis, 1-Eddie Thompson.
All the players who appeared for NSW and Queensland were Test players, while only numbers 9 and 6 for Victoria were never selected for an Australian team.
Nicky Barr, Stan Bissett and George Pearson were selected for the tour of Britain and Ireland in 1939/40, but war was declared the day after they arrived in England and the tour was cancelled without a game being played.
Although on the return trip, these three guys had their one opportunity to wear the Wallaby jersey in a match against a British Army XV in Bombay (now Mumbai).
Three of the Victorians – Dunlop, Barr and Bissett – became highly decorated for their achievements in WW2. Weary Dunlop was knighted and awarded the OBE for saving hundreds of Allied lives in his capacity as a surgeon in prisoner of war camps in South-East Asia.
Nicky Barr was a fighter pilot ace in North Africa before being shot down and captured, but then escaping to become a guerilla fighter in Italy. He was awarded both the Military Cross and DFC, plus bar (won twice).
Stan Bissett fought on the gruelling Kokoda track and had the distressing experience of holding his brother in his arms as he slowly died. He was also awarded the Military Cross for bravery in battle, and at 96 remains the oldest living Wallaby.
Dave Cowper, NSW born but achieving his greatest fame while in Victoria, remains the only Victorian to either captain (1933) or coach (1957/58) the Wallabies. He was also father of test cricket batsman Bob (1964-68).
There is so much more I could say about so many more of the players mentioned above, but there isn’t the space.
Those who continue to argue there is no place in Australian rugby for a national competition simply don’t realise how close we’ve come to having one in the past.
Perhaps this time, when Victoria wins the fifteenth super license, we can finally move towards making Australian rugby a truly national game. Perhaps this time, Victorian rugby will be here to stay!
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September 11th 2009 @ 1:52am
Working Class Rugger said | September 11th 2009 @ 1:52am | Report comment
Sheek
You’re a history teacher aren’t you. Professor Sheek PHD. Doctorate in Australian Rugby History.
September 11th 2009 @ 2:12am
Frank O'Keeffe said | September 11th 2009 @ 2:12am | Report comment
Yes he is a history teacher with the PHD. To take one of his classes you must buy the text, “Australian Rugby: The Game and its Players” – the greatest rugby book ever written by Jack Pollard. Sheek will teach from that as well as explaining why the 27/28 Waratah’s were the most significant Wallaby side in history. He explores the legacy of the great Cryil Towers and the people he influenced, capping off the topic with an exposay on why Mark Ella is great.
Jokes aside, that’s another fine read Sheek. I always enjoy the stuff you wrtie.
September 11th 2009 @ 7:47am
couchnorm said | September 11th 2009 @ 7:47am | Report comment
I love the history, this part of the reason why we love the game so much.
May be that’s a reason why the game is in trouble. Players and administrators are not exposed or have listen or lernt from the past. You need the past to move forward. When I was young I remember sitting and talking to the ex players, listening to the old stories of past glories. What was more interesting was the story behind the glories.
We don’t seem to have the old club rooms “museums of rugby” anymore. Relics from the past. Behind each photo was the blood sweat and tears that built this game.
I’m glad you mentioned Nicky Bar. His story is incredible. If you had a couple of Nicky Barrs in your side you never loose a game.
September 11th 2009 @ 8:35am
sheek said | September 11th 2009 @ 8:35am | Report comment
Thanks Guys,
A lot of people poo-poo history, but those who ignore it are condemned to repeat the mistakes of others. History helps us understand how we arrived at the present, & how we might prepare for the future.
It’s interesting when I put my ideas up about a national comp, some people react like I’m talking from another planet. Yet all my ideas draw from history, & what’s happened in our past, or is in place somewhere else. Usually right in front of our noses!
Frank,
I’ve never seen or read an actual connection, but there is an uncanny similarity in the philosophies of Souths Rabbitohs founding coach Arthur Hennessy & Waratahs captain Johnnie Wallace – “run the ball at every opportunity, & only kick when presented with no other choice”.
Hennessy went further – “no kicking whatsoever”! However, I do know that Hennessy coached Wally Meagher & Cyril Towers, another two of the Waratahs, at Waverley College. Meagher & Towers became advocates of the running game at Randwick.
I bought the book about the 1927/28 Waratahs, written by Peter Fenton, about 6 months ago. But apart from reading the bios on the players at the end of the book, I haven’t read it in full yet. Must do so…..
Couchnorm,
I do have Nicky Barr’s book – ‘An Australian Air Ace’, by Peter Dornan – in my collection. The guy lived the adventures of about 5 people in one life! And that was just during the war. A truly extraordinary individual.
September 11th 2009 @ 11:15am
couchnorm said | September 11th 2009 @ 11:15am | Report comment
A book that every teenager should read.
He was a Australian hero.
September 11th 2009 @ 9:19am
Brett McKay said | September 11th 2009 @ 9:19am | Report comment
Great Stuff Sheek. If your motivation with these articles is to maintain history and make us all more aware of Wallabies past, then you are most definitely excelling. As with all your previous historical pieces, I’ve learned so much here…
September 11th 2009 @ 9:22am
Mike Oxhard said | September 11th 2009 @ 9:22am | Report comment
Use history to answer a number of long held theories that Victorians hated New South Welshman so much that they almost forced rugby to die due to political and religious reasons with the Great Depression the main reason why rugby was forced underground and Australian Rules thrived. Rugby players of the day were told they would not be employed if they continued to play on weekends from both a free mason and Union perspective. Who said sport and politics are not inextricably linked.
A great story that should only harden the resolve of those making the decisions to select Victoria as the next franchise for a number of reasons. Historically there is a large rugby culture that is underpinned by the ex-pat business community however the large number of islanders who have made Melbourne home in a similar vain to the Europeans via Good Hope the Pacific Islanders migrate south to New Zealand and then across to Australia with Melbourne as the initial port of call.
September 11th 2009 @ 9:54am
Gudfala said | September 11th 2009 @ 9:54am | Report comment
Nice work – probably worth pointing out that the ACT also had a competition and a rep side in the late 1930s.
September 11th 2009 @ 10:47am
sheek said | September 11th 2009 @ 10:47am | Report comment
Gudfala,
Although rugby in the ACT began in the 1930s (can’t remember off top of head the actual year), they were part of NSW Country.
It wasn’t until about 1975 that ACT played as a separate provincial entity. ACT produced some outstanding individuals 1975-95, but lacked overall depth.
Prop Stu MacDougall was still playing for the Wallabies when they separated from NSW Country. Utility back John Weatherstone & fullback Bob Brown both played for the Wallabies in 1975.
The greatest ACT players from this era (75-95) were of course Mick O’Connor & David Campese. At one stage the Kookaburras had a handy frontrow of Leigh Donnellan at loosehead & captain, Jim Taylor at hooker & Geoff Didier at tighthead. Later on, prop Rob Lawton (Tom’s brother) added starch to the frontrow.
By the mid-90s guys like Gregan, Roff, Larkham, Kafer & Caputo were making a name for themselves. Come 1996, & the rest was history!
September 11th 2009 @ 11:09am
Gudfala said | September 11th 2009 @ 11:09am | Report comment
Cheers Sheek – I stand corrected. And thanks for reminding me about Geoff Didier, I used to play for the same club. A very scary man, but he was a bit like the talisman of ACT rugby for a time.
September 11th 2009 @ 10:58am
Gary said | September 11th 2009 @ 10:58am | Report comment
Western Australia also has a long established competition. My own Premier Grade club is 80 years old.
September 11th 2009 @ 11:57am
Mike Oxhard said | September 11th 2009 @ 11:57am | Report comment
The ACTRU defeated Wales in a mid week fixture in 1978 and had numerous wins over Ireland, Argentina and Fiji as well as victories over NZ and SA provincial teams leading up to the most famous of victories against a near full strength NSW at Concord Oval in 1994 where a young man named Roff scored four (4) tries along with a number of other outstanding young players who went on to play for Australia.
The Canberra Kookaburras introduction into the Shute Shield in 1995 along with the victory over NSW in 1994 were the catalyst to the formation of the ACT Brumbies and as they say in the classics the rest is history.
Had NSW and QLD had their way in 1995 the ACT Brumbies would never have been formed and the advent of professionalism in Australia may never have had the same impact. From day one the ACT Brumbies have been the poor cousins to NSW and QLD however despite being financially and player disadvantaged have been the dominant force in Australian rugby.
We could comment for hours as to why rugby is not solely the domain of those residing in Sydney and Brisbane and that the next John Eales may not necessarily be coming out of a rugby playing private school. In Sydney for example rugby is played west of Anzac Pde and the Pacific Highway and the sooner officialdom acknowledge that better.
RUPA need to also ensure that club competitions are equitable rather than the current haves and have not mentality where the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
The Reds may not be doing so well however the QRU have expanded the Premier competition to cater for a Gold and Sunshine Coast team and the benefits in the long term will be enormous.
Bring on the fifth Australian franchise and let’s remember what history can provide!