All Blacks coach tells Brits rugby is losing appeal
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All Blacks coach Graham Henry says advancements in boot and ball technology is making rugby a less attractive spectacle.
Henry – who also recommends the value of a penalty goal be reduced to one – said the increasing preponderance of kicking at the top level of the sport was also a disadvantage to the natural running instincts of his side and Australia.
He told Britain’s The Independent newspaper that the game has “undoubtedly” transformed because of the length of kicks players can make – both at goal and kicking for territory.
“The quality of the ball, like everything else such as the quality of the boots, is constantly improving,” Henry said.
“Guys are kicking the ball 60m these days because the ball has improved so much. Kicking is a skill but it is transforming the game and I don’t think that was in the original ideas of rugby.
” We can’t increase the length of the field; there might be opposition to that at places like Twickenham and Eden Park. But on the same size field as long ago, you can now kick the ball 10m-15m further. That changes both the nature of the game and the nature of the penalty.”
The shift in emphasis would impact most on the All Blacks and Wallabies, Henry believed, not only on the field but off it, where interest levels could wane.
“People that have been traditional fans are now questioning the game because of the laws,” Henry said.
“There is nothing Australia and New Zealand can do about it. We wanted to make the ELVs permanent but we got out-voted.
“But the consequences of doing nothing about this in this part of the world are serious. It is a real problem because we do not have the population numbers in this country. Getting bums on seats is a big challenge, especially in a recession.”
Henry said the current rules promote safety-first rugby.
South Africa dominated the Tri-Nations on the back of a kicking strategy which reduced the chances of being penalised.
“Because of the rules, sides don’t take risks and don’t pass the ball very often,” Henry said.
“They are wary of playing a wider, more expansive game and scared of giving away penalties. It is becoming even more of a chessboard game than it ever has been. The way the game is played now is often like a tennis match with the ball kicked downfield so much.”
Henry said reducing the value of a penalty would be a radical move but suggested its impact would be positive.
“Wouldn’t that create widespread cheating?” he said.
“It may do but it gives the possibility to the other side that if they get the ball there are ways of winning the game other than kicking goals.”
Henry also suggested allowing a mark to be called when the ball is caught and play then taken back to where the kick was made.
“It is a matter of the people that have got the power making the correct decisions.
“But the problem at the moment is, what is the correct decision in one country isn’t necessarily the correct decision in another. So I think you need impartial people to make these decisions for the good of the game.
“I do think the rulemakers have got to re-visit this. The game under the ELVs last year was much more enjoyable to play and much better to watch.”
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Knives Out said | September 26th 2009 @ 2:19am | Report comment
Henry’s efforts at politicking are becoming embarrassing now.
“I do think the rulemakers have got to re-visit this. The game under the ELVs last year was much more enjoyable to play and much better to watch.”
That’s not what the audience was saying, Graham.
Knives Out said | September 26th 2009 @ 3:27am | Report comment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTtTbcfwCMA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZw6K8shi_Q
Dingbat said | September 26th 2009 @ 3:36am | Report comment
Such obvious self-interest is laughable. Henry’s argument goes something like this: we did not win the 3N. It can’t be because we’re presently cr*p or because my coaching was poor, it’s because the rules are not drafted to suit our style of play. Winning is, after all, New Zealand’s god-given right (honestly, what else do we have?), therefore the rules must change to suit ball in hand rugby.
katzilla said | September 26th 2009 @ 6:53am | Report comment
‘New Zealand’s god-given right (honestly, what else do we have?)’
At least we have that.
ohtani's jacket said | September 26th 2009 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Actually, he often says the same thing when the All Blacks win.
Knives Out said | September 26th 2009 @ 8:34pm | Report comment
I don’t recall any of this chat during 0507.
ohtani's jacket said | September 26th 2009 @ 9:16pm | Report comment
They hadn’t stuffed the game up with rule changes then.
Why are you putting so much stock in Henry’s opinion anyway?
Knives Out said | September 26th 2009 @ 10:14pm | Report comment
What exactly has stuffed up the game since then?
Obviously I don’t put any stock in Henry’s opinion. Quite the opposite in fact. He’s turning into John Mitchell and appears very, very disingenuous, not to mention badly misinformed.
ohtani's jacket said | September 26th 2009 @ 11:01pm | Report comment
SH rugby has been poor for the past two seasons. The last time it was this poor was a decade ago. I assume that Henry isn’t particularly happy with the way the All Blacks have had to play over the past two seasons.
AC said | September 29th 2009 @ 1:06pm | Report comment
He has a very valid point regarding ball technology. This is quantitative — you can kick the ball further, FACT.
The Laws of rugby were originally conceived in a time where ball technology was rudimentary at best. There were assumptions as to the playability of the ball that are no longer valid.
As a corollary, since you can kick the ball further, you can gain significant advantage by training hard in that area of your game.
Pippinu said | September 29th 2009 @ 1:23pm | Report comment
It’s an interesting point, about the ball technology.
The VFL/AFL has used the same basic ball technology since 1897, with some minor technological improvements to assist against water logging, but it’s still the same basic leather ball, such that there is only a marginal difference between the distance the modern footballer kicks, with say, 60 years ago.
Surely the day is not far away where most teams will have the capacity to kick a sausage roll from 10 metres inside their own half – something that would have been almost impossible, say, a century ago.
Ground specs stay the same, but ball technology coupled with better technique improves – it makes for a potent mix.
MM said | September 27th 2009 @ 5:05am | Report comment
Too true Dingb & KO….
He’s hardly in a position to govern his own selections and games and he makes wild statements like he has??
If he doesn’t get his own act together before the next world cup there’s a great possibility the Aussies, despite current problems, will have rolled out – perhaps worse for him, the other SH giant – South Africa.
Henry has had to “please explain” more than anything else for about two years with McCaw backing him up – for how long?
Yup – a huge laugh – not at the All Blacks – but on Henry… and it’s a great pity because the All Blacks, despite recent setbacks know their stuff – to a point that is…. To be fair further, the team can only be as good as the coach.
Dublin Dave said | September 26th 2009 @ 4:15am | Report comment
He’s got a point about boot and ball technology being the vital factors. A while ago I posted a graph of average points and average no of tries per season scored for every 5N/6N series since the war. Given that this was the only annual international competition featuring more than two teams over the period. (still got it Zac?)
It clearly showed a steady increase in overall points being scored since the mid 1960s but there was no clear correlation over time with the number of tries scored. Despite the value of the try being regularly increased.
So the answer is simple: Make the ball harder to kick. A nice little weight in the middle would do the trick. Why not? Track and Field has had to tweak the Javelin to make it harder to throw because spectators were in danger of getting a King Harold.
And get rid of those god awful rule changes which have made the game an overcrowded version of league. Back to the pre “use it or lose it” days please.
The simplest solution is always the best.
KISS KISS
Knives Out said | September 26th 2009 @ 4:34am | Report comment
The referee should give more leniency to the attacking side and the value drop goals should be reduced to 1 or 2 points. Thems my suggestions.
Henry may be right about the ball but what about the technology of boots, pitches and garments etc? He is just cherry picking an argument to suit an agenda that he has been pushing for a while. Over the past year England, Wales, Ireland, NZ and the Lions all played some great attacking rugby. In fact test rugby in Europe has (over the past year anyway) been far more laissez faire than test rugby in the SH. Obviously Henry is not quite as impartial as he would like people to think he is. Anyway, as Dingbat states the Frans Steyn kicks are freakish. No other player in test rugby is capable of such feats. Such freakish kickers have always existed, and I don’t recall Henry moaning about the laws when NZ was the dominant force in world rugby from 05-07. His constant anti-NH nags are becoming increasingly nauseating.
MM said | September 27th 2009 @ 5:21am | Report comment
On the head KO….
Dingbat said | September 26th 2009 @ 4:20am | Report comment
If the boots and the ball made it so easy to kick, why are Steyn’s long range attamepts v NZ considered so extraordinary? If it’s so easy and such a massive factor in today’s game why isn’t every team doing it?
pothale said | September 26th 2009 @ 4:33am | Report comment
They’re not really extraordinary is what Henry is saying with the current technology. Obviously, they just don’t practise enough. Cipriani has a fairly useful long range boot on him, as have Kearney and Byrne. Sexton took a 45m drop in the H Cup final last season. Just teams haven’t got around to thinking to taking penalty shots at goal in their own half.
Doesn’t altitude help as well in some of these kicking situations?
Dingbat said | September 26th 2009 @ 5:20am | Report comment
Maybe we should halt all technological advancement, enhanced training techniques and the taking of legal performance enhancing supplements. That way human progress can be frozen in time. The Boks are too big, should we set an upper height and weight limit on international rugby players? Self-interested Kiwi muck.
katzilla said | September 26th 2009 @ 7:00am | Report comment
Maybe your forwards could get hold of some technological advancement Dingbat?
Perhaps a metallic spine?
I agree that Henry’s talking muck but your making it about all of us by using the term ‘Kiwi Muck’
I couldn’t care less about the rules, we will come back to winning ways again regardless of the rules, thats the way its always been. Your guys im not so sure, if anyone needs a rule change its the team without a platform.
Also I think they should drop chemicals into the air at Bloemfontein to ensure the air stays thick and the ball only travels a certain distance
Dingbat said | September 26th 2009 @ 9:01am | Report comment
air is equally thin for both teams playing in Bloem. just as icy wind and sludge in some kiwi cities is the same for both teams. sorry katzilla, didn’t mean to take aim at your entire nation, just grump graham.
katzilla said | September 26th 2009 @ 10:18am | Report comment
All good Dingbat, understandably you guys are a bit tender at the moment.
GHs comments will be met with alot of cringing back home, because most realise this isn’t the best time for this sort of comment.
MM said | September 27th 2009 @ 5:14am | Report comment
No offence mate,
By the way the GENERAL remarks (not yours alone) are going – one would swear that Steyn booted his missiles all through the game when this is not true. Talent like he has, utilised at the right times is hard to find and admirable.
If one man like Frans Steyn promulgates the international raucous as he has done – there needs to be some serious thinking.
Henry needs to sort out his own problem – not that of his team per se, before opening mouth.
JJ said | September 26th 2009 @ 4:37am | Report comment
So basically what Henry is saying is that NZ lost over the past 6 months due to the current IRB rules? What an absolute joke.
Justin said | September 26th 2009 @ 4:54am | Report comment
Bring on the mark anywhere on the field. You can still kick but you would want to make sure you win it back…
warenexpatinnz said | September 26th 2009 @ 7:03am | Report comment
That was an interesting comment Justin, simplistic but it does then question when and where the high kick would be brought in so it could result in more running rugby and less force back.
With the long range penalty shot, that unfortunately will be and needs to be part of the game as otherwise the reward will seemingly favour the infringing side if you limit were players can kick a penalty from, as I have heard people mention throughout the season.
The other obvious way to go is to drop both the penalty and drop kick points worth to two points and have a try worth five. Yes there are other flow on points such as an infringing side when in their own half will need to have not only a penalty given but distance as well, i.e. take them back ten, use the yellow card more?
The Boks were great this year and deserved their victory and showed now two years running they are a very good all round side regardless of their kicking prowess.
Looking forward to the end of season tours were the kicking styles of both hemispheres will be interesting to see and whether one or both will play a more running style?
Justin said | September 26th 2009 @ 7:27am | Report comment
Yeah it is a little simplistic Warren but it just might be worth looking at (but it will never see the light of day). It may just create more kicking into corners but it may create more running from halfway and closer to your tryline.
Like you Warren I cant wait for the end of season tours, they will be fascinating to see where teams are at 18 months from RWC. Who’s where, who’s heading in which direction etc etc.
QC said | September 27th 2009 @ 8:01pm | Report comment
Warren,
Two years running????
Did they not finish dead last in 08?
limbocraft said | September 26th 2009 @ 7:24am | Report comment
I think there’s merit in this.
Mindset to always kick for safety’s sake spreads like an illness. Even forwards do it now – go John Smith! Go Pierre!
I don’t like GH – and he did mention this at an opinionated time – i’m South African = but there’s truth there.
but in my opinion it is the frequency of penalties and attitude towards getting one more than ever.
It’s…… overpowered
van der Merwe said | September 26th 2009 @ 7:34am | Report comment
“Guys are kicking the ball 60m these days because the ball has improved so much… blah, blah, blah”
Which guys? Why does he use the plural and surely successful place kicking from that distance is to be applauded?
QC said | September 27th 2009 @ 8:04pm | Report comment
You will find in the ANZC even un heralded players such as Ripia and Cameron are starting to kick from the 50m+ mark. I think Steyn has just proven that with practice it can be done. While he looks like a freak I don’t believe he is. I just think he’s realised that if you practice enough you can kick them from a long way back. He is a pioneer not a freak
Skip said | September 26th 2009 @ 7:40am | Report comment
I really wish Roarers would read the whole article before making stupid comments.
Hemry clearly states that the rule changes he proposes would be advantageous to Australia and NZ. He said that we wanted the ELVs but got voted down. He then went on to say “But the problem at the moment is, what is the correct decision in one country isn’t necessarily the correct decision in another.” He is refering to the issues in Aust & NZ.
I agree in part with Knives referee’s should favour the attacking side but how is that objective and how can it be consistant.
The Athlete (proffesional) has evolved past the limits of the game. It is near impossible to stay on your feet at the breakdown when you have 120kg of man beef travelling at 40km hit you up the back side. That is just one of the many.
I honestly beleive that we should re evaluate the free arm sanction. If we can find ground of the penalty at the moment compared to the Free kick during the S14 then we will solve a number of problems.
The FK was used far to often by referee’s and games looked and sounded like a cross between netball and AFL with the shrill ofthe whistle being heard way to often. Compare this at the moment to decsions (or interpretations) of referee’s that lead to a penalty that can determine the out come of the game. The time a penalty takes to kick has a massive impact on the game not just the possible 3 points. It gives the modern athlete 2-3 minutes rest. This then impacts the defence as the bigger players are not getting as tired, the defence line maintains shape and speed and the break down is still strongly contested resulting in both slow ball snd more kicking.
The referee should be allowed to award a FK and then a penalty for repeat or deliberate offences!
Justin said | September 26th 2009 @ 11:26am | Report comment
Perhaps they could use the ELV sanctions as before but allow teams who get a FK to do everything bar kick for goal. So you could take a scrum, tap or kick for touch and get the lineout.
It would keep the integrity and structure of the game but not have so many decisions which can be iffy or go either way decide matches so often. Also you would see more tries (I think) as the ball would be in more attacking positions through kicking for touch.
The more I think about it, this is the way forward. Yes, oh yes, I am a genius
Invictus said | September 26th 2009 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
Has been mentioned before on a previous thread that the short arm needs to be changed to allow a team to kick for touch, gain ground and retain the throw in. This reduces the number of penalty kicks at goal but allows the game to keep it’s traditional shape.
As for the time factor mentioned above, as I have said before, whenever the ball is not in play should be automatically time off. This inlcudes shots a goal, straggling to lineouts, scrum resets and restarts. Too ensure things don’t drag on too long introduce a 90 second rule for re-starts (including scrums and lineouts).
adrien2166 said | September 26th 2009 @ 8:24am | Report comment
To have a less boring rugby union i have a great idea :
-First, the scrums don’t have to be contest, the crowds hate when the same scrum is played 3 times in a row.
-Secondly, the players are now too much bigger and stronger, as we know we can’t extend fields so let’s reduce the numbers of players in each team from 15 to 13, it will have more space to play “real rugby” like someone says in a comment.
-third, as we all know, The defence got the upper hand over the attack, so it should be placed in ten metres of the ruck.
-Then, as for the rucks, the crowds actually hate it because it’s too often draft , it should be better to forget it, The carrier of ball should simply make roll the ball between its legs with its foot, and it’ll be two markers in front of him, while the defence can’t play since the ball is played.
– And last but not least, every 5tackles the attaking team will have to kick the ball or it’ll be a turnover.
As for the score change, this is not very important i think, but we may bring back the try to 4points and the conversion to 2points like the penalties and the drop goal should be 1point, to become a match-winning point to make suspense and emotion, all that the crowds and fans enjoy!
So we could become the greatest game of all, isn’t it??
sheek said | September 26th 2009 @ 8:55am | Report comment
Ooohh Adrien,
You are so naughty………. !
katzilla said | September 26th 2009 @ 8:57am | Report comment
*Snore* I could see that coming from your first sentence.
Maybe afterwards we could defecate in a hotel corridor? Then the team could tag in on a young 17 year old girl while the rest of the team watches, then finally all home to bash the wives. Then would it be the greatest game of all?
Dingbat said | September 26th 2009 @ 9:03am | Report comment
katzilla you are wicked. 100% correct, of course, but wicked.
ohtani's jacket said | September 26th 2009 @ 9:49am | Report comment
That was awesome.
Chris said | September 26th 2009 @ 3:29pm | Report comment
It seems kinda kinda that Union fans, when bashing league, never actually talk about why Union is better than league. Instead they just talk about off field incidents. If an absence of off field problems is so important to you why don’t you go follow Netball?
Working Class Rugger said | September 26th 2009 @ 4:18pm | Report comment
Chris
The physicality. The contest in every aspect of the game. The variety of tactics and styles. And the skill. And there is alot of skill in Rugby. It often dirty and can be ugly but conversely it can be open and free flowing. That is what makes Rugby better than League. LEague has been sanitized to ensure that tries are scored at least every 10 mintues. After watching a few NRL and Toyota Cup games this year its obvious that defence in League in this half of the World is no longer required. I prefer to watch the English SuperLeague.
adrien66 said | September 26th 2009 @ 9:01pm | Report comment
chris!
you are right.Union fans always talk about off field dramas instead of talking about their magic game with more skills than league,more good tackle more…everything which makes union a lot better than league! Nevertheless i have a lot of difficulties to understand why they prefer a game wich 50% of a game is fat guys walking and good looking boys attempting to convert penalty kicks! But there are not off field dramas!!!
Dean Pantio said | September 27th 2009 @ 11:17pm | Report comment
Rugby is better to play. Period. If you aren’t playing, why not watch it…
ohtani's jacket said | September 26th 2009 @ 9:09pm | Report comment
I watch and enjoy league sometimes. I dunno what you Aussies are on about. The rest of the world don’t care about your code wars.
QC said | September 27th 2009 @ 8:09pm | Report comment
Ricky Stewart is that you???
Surely it must be,
Only you could throw a bitch fit like this