Victory needs to start giving their fans credit
By Davidde Corran, 4 Oct 2009 Davidde Corran is a Roar Expert
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Melbourne Victory’s relationship with its supporters has been characterised by some splendid inconsistency almost since day one of the A-League.
The club has given its supporters a record two premiership and championship doubles. In return Victory has received the cash flow that comes with the highest attendances and memberships in the country.
The difficult side of the relationship between both parties was most notable in season 3. Some fans protested over the restrictions placed on them at the Telstra Dome while others claimed they would tear up their memberships following Victory’s poor title defence.
Such highs and lows are somewhat understandable considering the teething process involved in a new league and club finding its feet.
Less reasonable were the comments from Victory chairmen Geoff Lord on Thursday when he launched the first shot in what will soon be Melbourne’s newest football rivalry.
”It’s all about community involvement and taking the game to the people,” said Lord.
”One of the things I would have changed with the so-called Melbourne Heartless is that it should have been located around Cranbourne or out in the outer suburbs where there is a need to take the game to the people.
”Sydney are doing it by taking the second team to west Sydney. I think the Government can still play a role in trying to build a support base for the new club in the outer south-east suburbs where there is a paucity of entertainment and top-level sport.”
Certainly Lord has the right to defend his club and look out for their best interests, but he got one thing markedly wrong. As Michael Lynch described in The Age, for Lord to say that the new Melbourne team will “cannibalise Victory’s supporter base” is to essentially call his club’s supporters vapid.
I just can’t imagine that numerous Melbourne Victory fans will be turning in their Melbourne Victory memberships to get on the Melbourne Heart bandwagon.
Yes, Victory has seen their attendances begin to dwindle and it’s a concern, but Melbourne retains a massive group of core supporters.
Victory’s support might only be five seasons old but that doesn’t mean their fans aren’t loyal. I’ve shared plenty of away victories at the Charles Dickens Pub in the Melbourne CBD with passionate Victory fans and such supporters wont disappear overnight.
Maybe Lord had a slightly different target group in mind with these comments. I’m thinking of the less loyal fans without memberships that have only been to a handle full of games throughout the team’s existence.
I still don’t think many of these ‘supporters’ will simply change sides, but if they do then Lord can have little to be disappointed about.
Victory has had five seasons to cut through to your average Melbournian. It seemed they were being successful early on but now that has to be questioned.
Melbourne may be the most popular team in the A-League, but they have also failed to reach their potential in attracting supporters.
No one’s blaming the club for the global economic crisis, but there are areas in which they could have done better. For example, Melbourne has been too distant from the media and thus their message hasn’t cut through to much of the public. A few pre-season friendlies against VPL opposition aside, there still hasn’t been enough interaction with grassroots football either.
Either way there are still enough sport lovers in Melbourne, even excluding any one-eyed AFL fans, for the two A-League sides to find strong supporter bases.
Melbourne Heart will force their more established inter-city opponent to raise their game when it comes to attracting fans. That can only be a good thing for everyone.
If Melbourne Victory see some of their part-time supporters swap colours next season it will be their own fault.
In the meantime Geoff Lord should give his club’s fans more credit.
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melbvictory87 said | October 4th 2009 @ 3:01am | Report comment
this is the best article i have ever read on the site. it perfectly highlights 2 of my biggest frustrations with victory: 1. the seating change, general admission has to sit on level 3 and cant sit where most of the atmosphere is being generated (level 1) hence ruining the experience for first time viewers and 2. inability to do anything regarding the massive grassroots.
melbvictory87 said | October 4th 2009 @ 3:04am | Report comment
if they did not change anything in season 3 then our average attendance would probably be 50k a game by now, but noooooooooo they need to start telling their fans where they can sit and what they can do. we need a new stadium badly and geoff lord to resign (absolute bonehead!). prior to the change= fans averaged up, after the change= fans average down; try spot the correlation
mahony said | October 4th 2009 @ 7:08pm | Report comment
Yes – the founder and financial backer of the club should “resign”…….. I have been there for the team since before day 1 and can tell you that my initial suspicions about Lordy are long gone. His heart (pun intended) is in his club and I think he has learnt about the global game over the past 5 years. The new stadium will be a fresh start for the club – its owners, fans, players and the broader community. Exciting times ahead. Well done Mr. Lord. Well done. PS: We are top of the league….
melbvictory87 said | October 4th 2009 @ 8:07pm | Report comment
yes lets just pray when we get the new stadium the seating will be fixed and none of these stupid new season 3 arrangements. anyway, were top and we have sydney next week that’ll be a cracker
Mr cheese said | October 10th 2009 @ 4:11am | Report comment
Dear Mahony,
this is indeed ‘your’ team. If you are a Melbourne Victory fan, good luck to you.
You come from Melbourne and support Melbourne.
I come from Liverpool and support Liverpool.
It’s good to hear you say “we ( Melbourne ) are top of the league”. I think Australian fans should be respected in Australia, and English supporters should be repected in England.
Very best wishes,
Robbos said | October 10th 2009 @ 6:51am | Report comment
Mr Cheese,
Admit it, are you not a Barcelona fan as well?
Mr cheese said | October 10th 2009 @ 7:17am | Report comment
No.
I have only one club team in any sport: Liverpool FC. I admire all sorts of teams and people, including Barcelona, but I am definitely not a supporter of that team.
I respect Barcelona supporters so much that I would not claim to be one of them. I have met one or two of them over the years. If I claimed to be a Barcelona supporter, it would be embarrassing and also an insult to the proper supporters of that great club.
Which team do you follow, Robbos ? Are you English or Oz ?
Robbos said | October 10th 2009 @ 7:55am | Report comment
I’m from the land downunder, I have an English wife, but I don’t hold that against her, it wasn’t her fault.
I’m a Sydney FC fan, but the A-League has only been going 5 years & previously with the NSL (national soccer League I didn’t follow any team.
But the football team I have followed for 30 years have been Derby County (why, I sometimes ask myself that too), but they were great in the 70s & I’ve stuck by them.
I don’t know why you think it an insult to follow another team from another country.
For exmaple if I was a NFL fan (which I enjoy), what is the problem of me being a Washington Redskin fan even though I don’t live in the country or never have been to Washinton. Don’t understand why you would be insulted by it.
Tom said | October 5th 2009 @ 7:29am | Report comment
Davidde, thats a misrepresentation of Lord’s comments. The ‘supporter base’ generally means the group of people from which you draw your support, not the diehards who rock up every week. In no way did Lord imply that anyone was ‘vapid’.
In this context I think its pretty clear what Lord meant.
ABCDEFG said | October 6th 2009 @ 9:04am | Report comment
I honestly think there is enough space for two Melbourne based clubs with there being. But what Geoff Lord said about there being a paucity of sports and entertainment in south-east Melbourne is true, despite there being a big population, maybe a third Victorian club granted a license by the A-league could do just that. But lets see what the second club can do first before there’s talk of a third.