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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-5/#comment-231562</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To do a true comparison of TV audience you&#039;d need the NRL to return to a day telecast like the AFL - if that happened the NRL would be even further behind.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To do a true comparison of TV audience you&#8217;d need the NRL to return to a day telecast like the AFL &#8211; if that happened the NRL would be even further behind.</p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-223663</link>
		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just keep sending those one-eyed victorians up to QLD M.C. We will keep converting them to league. :)  Ok league is only 2 states, so we have 3 to conquer, or are you claiming NT as well. ?

Mate, Origin is the Number 1 sporting contest. Why would i want to include Vistoria. If you ever get a player able to play NRL, then he will get a choice of electing to play for QLD or NSW. just like that young Victorian you have down their. Widdop, yes he is a pom, but they moved to Victoria , you claiming him?, or isn&#039;t he a aussie, even after he gets his citizenship. ? 

M.C, league is coming to Melbourne, be a bore and get left out, i dont care, us Queenslanders and the Storm supporters over the next 5 years will gladly fill your numbers, just like your 1.6 million Vics watching the final filled your ratings . Thats only just over 1 million watching from over half the population in all main cities. 
Your expansion is into areas where the game is already played, and watched. League is a expanding sport, we have new states to conquer. And we will, once we take origin to perth.
Its not about where the people come from who play the game, its the quality of the contest, you should know that.   Either way, both codes are safe. The other 2 are a little shakey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just keep sending those one-eyed victorians up to QLD M.C. We will keep converting them to league. <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Ok league is only 2 states, so we have 3 to conquer, or are you claiming NT as well. ?</p>
<p>Mate, Origin is the Number 1 sporting contest. Why would i want to include Vistoria. If you ever get a player able to play NRL, then he will get a choice of electing to play for QLD or NSW. just like that young Victorian you have down their. Widdop, yes he is a pom, but they moved to Victoria , you claiming him?, or isn&#8217;t he a aussie, even after he gets his citizenship. ? </p>
<p>M.C, league is coming to Melbourne, be a bore and get left out, i dont care, us Queenslanders and the Storm supporters over the next 5 years will gladly fill your numbers, just like your 1.6 million Vics watching the final filled your ratings . Thats only just over 1 million watching from over half the population in all main cities.<br />
Your expansion is into areas where the game is already played, and watched. League is a expanding sport, we have new states to conquer. And we will, once we take origin to perth.<br />
Its not about where the people come from who play the game, its the quality of the contest, you should know that.   Either way, both codes are safe. The other 2 are a little shakey.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222817</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 11:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Karlos - the numbers are all Oztam numbers.  The 2,704,000 is the preliminary figure, NOT the official figure.  Normally this figure varies just a little by the time Oztam are ready to publish it once validated.

However, on that weekend, the NRL PF 2 was initially reported at 1,353,000, but, the published figure now on OzTam is 1,254,000.  

The AFL GF prelim figure is now reported as 2,878,000 official.  The Pre Game also was initially 1,505,000 and is now reported officially as 1,697,000.

It&#039;s ALL Oztam data.

Normally the change from Preliminary figures to final figures is just a couple of thousand.  It&#039;s quite odd that this particular week there are variances up or down of 100,000 to 200,000.

It&#039;s ALL Oztam data.  That&#039;s the only PeopleMeter data.  Any other &#039;polls&#039; such as Roy Morgan will tend to be relatively minute samples and often simply ask &quot;Did you watch&quot; the show/event.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karlos &#8211; the numbers are all Oztam numbers.  The 2,704,000 is the preliminary figure, NOT the official figure.  Normally this figure varies just a little by the time Oztam are ready to publish it once validated.</p>
<p>However, on that weekend, the NRL PF 2 was initially reported at 1,353,000, but, the published figure now on OzTam is 1,254,000.  </p>
<p>The AFL GF prelim figure is now reported as 2,878,000 official.  The Pre Game also was initially 1,505,000 and is now reported officially as 1,697,000.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ALL Oztam data.</p>
<p>Normally the change from Preliminary figures to final figures is just a couple of thousand.  It&#8217;s quite odd that this particular week there are variances up or down of 100,000 to 200,000.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ALL Oztam data.  That&#8217;s the only PeopleMeter data.  Any other &#8216;polls&#8217; such as Roy Morgan will tend to be relatively minute samples and often simply ask &#8220;Did you watch&#8221; the show/event.</p>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222678</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NRL can make teams from other countries quite easily, and they would all be somewhat competitive. Could the AFL do that?

Unlike the AFL, Rugby League still continues with the 4 Nations coming up. Something most of us League lovers are looking forward to. It&#039;s things like this which should see the NRL get a lot more money next time around.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NRL can make teams from other countries quite easily, and they would all be somewhat competitive. Could the AFL do that?</p>
<p>Unlike the AFL, Rugby League still continues with the 4 Nations coming up. Something most of us League lovers are looking forward to. It&#8217;s things like this which should see the NRL get a lot more money next time around.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-5/#comment-222673</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 05:48:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sad thing is channel nine Melb chose to cut off coverage as soon as game was finished just after full time. There were numerous Melb player interviews that VIC viewers didn&#039;t have a chance to see. Many in VIC rang and complained. So it&#039;s a mess presently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sad thing is channel nine Melb chose to cut off coverage as soon as game was finished just after full time. There were numerous Melb player interviews that VIC viewers didn&#8217;t have a chance to see. Many in VIC rang and complained. So it&#8217;s a mess presently.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 04:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rugby Leagues NOT national, never was or will be. The NRl is the just the NSWRL with a few interstate sides.

Same as the AFL. Greatert vfl, nothing more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rugby Leagues NOT national, never was or will be. The NRl is the just the NSWRL with a few interstate sides.</p>
<p>Same as the AFL. Greatert vfl, nothing more.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222330</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oikee -

please - - how many people refer to AFL as &#039;Vicball&#039;, or try to push the &#039;only one half of the country&#039; line claiming that NSW and QLD can&#039;t be counted and so AFL isn&#039;t national.

If you reckon a team of NSW and QLD lads in Melbourne and about 20 junior teams equates to being a RL state, and even less so WA with 1 &#039;exhibition&#039; match and a handful of junior teams fits the bill too - - - then, sure as heck the AFL IS the supreme national code.

Again - re juniors - let&#039;s avoid the propaganda and wait and see how the under 16s/18s develop - - for now, there&#039;s 1 guy in the Toyota Cup/Senior squads combined to show.  Keep your feet on the ground a tad.

btw - remember back in 1979, the then VFL had 2 &#039;exhibition&#039; matches at the SCG, a total crowd of about 48K......did that make NSW a &#039;footy&#039; state??  Hardly!!!

Until the NRL can run a fair dinkum State of Origin carnival with more than just NSW and QLD ......then you do realise you&#039;re on thin ice.

The AFL could manage a pretty damn good QLD side presently, and a full NSW squad but with a lack of depth.  What can the NRL patch together for Vic,WA and SA?  (I bet the best you could manage is the &#039;emerging states&#039; junior squad.....but....hey....we&#039;ve all seen Zimbabwe do really quite well at the Under 19 cricket world cup......).

So - I&#039;m still curious why you keep trying to claim greater than 2 states.  Really, who is the one eyed supporter here???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oikee -</p>
<p>please &#8211; - how many people refer to AFL as &#8216;Vicball&#8217;, or try to push the &#8216;only one half of the country&#8217; line claiming that NSW and QLD can&#8217;t be counted and so AFL isn&#8217;t national.</p>
<p>If you reckon a team of NSW and QLD lads in Melbourne and about 20 junior teams equates to being a RL state, and even less so WA with 1 &#8216;exhibition&#8217; match and a handful of junior teams fits the bill too &#8211; - &#8211; then, sure as heck the AFL IS the supreme national code.</p>
<p>Again &#8211; re juniors &#8211; let&#8217;s avoid the propaganda and wait and see how the under 16s/18s develop &#8211; - for now, there&#8217;s 1 guy in the Toyota Cup/Senior squads combined to show.  Keep your feet on the ground a tad.</p>
<p>btw &#8211; remember back in 1979, the then VFL had 2 &#8216;exhibition&#8217; matches at the SCG, a total crowd of about 48K&#8230;&#8230;did that make NSW a &#8216;footy&#8217; state??  Hardly!!!</p>
<p>Until the NRL can run a fair dinkum State of Origin carnival with more than just NSW and QLD &#8230;&#8230;then you do realise you&#8217;re on thin ice.</p>
<p>The AFL could manage a pretty damn good QLD side presently, and a full NSW squad but with a lack of depth.  What can the NRL patch together for Vic,WA and SA?  (I bet the best you could manage is the &#8216;emerging states&#8217; junior squad&#8230;..but&#8230;.hey&#8230;.we&#8217;ve all seen Zimbabwe do really quite well at the Under 19 cricket world cup&#8230;&#8230;).</p>
<p>So &#8211; I&#8217;m still curious why you keep trying to claim greater than 2 states.  Really, who is the one eyed supporter here???</p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222277</link>
		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 21:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>M.C   why is it every time you mention league its only 2 states? You know and i know its also Victoria and Perth, yes they dont have a team yet , but to get 15 thousand to NRL games played in Perth gives them More credit than Melbounre.
Look, the Storm are going to be a powerhouse club, you cant stop this, juniors coming threw the system will keep rising those figures. You, your dad, your grandparents all loving AFL has nothing to do with it, kids playing league now and their parents are the base for the strongest club in the NRL . 

You my friend, and your one-eyed supporters cant stop that now. You can all be ignorant, and say you dont know who the storm are, as some folk do down their, but it only shows how ignorant some people are. I am not singling out you.,, I know you know differently, but come on, some of the biase down their is just pure stupidity. We dont carry on like that up north.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>M.C   why is it every time you mention league its only 2 states? You know and i know its also Victoria and Perth, yes they dont have a team yet , but to get 15 thousand to NRL games played in Perth gives them More credit than Melbounre.<br />
Look, the Storm are going to be a powerhouse club, you cant stop this, juniors coming threw the system will keep rising those figures. You, your dad, your grandparents all loving AFL has nothing to do with it, kids playing league now and their parents are the base for the strongest club in the NRL . </p>
<p>You my friend, and your one-eyed supporters cant stop that now. You can all be ignorant, and say you dont know who the storm are, as some folk do down their, but it only shows how ignorant some people are. I am not singling out you.,, I know you know differently, but come on, some of the biase down their is just pure stupidity. We dont carry on like that up north.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222232</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought the reason it&#039;s 5.30 instead of 7.30 was a whole lot of public reaction, including NZ, but also on behalf of the little kids and the afternoon BBQ folk that resisted the TV ratings being put ahead of the little people.

The move to 5pm or 5.30 or 5.15pm.....I&#039;m still confused about when it was meant to start.......and so it seems was GTV 9.......but, in reality, the move by 2.5 hrs is not so much a direct move from 3pm, but, it first pushed out to 7.30 so moved by 4.5 hours and then got pulled back........after the &#039;sell out&#039; which was the 4.5 hr shift.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought the reason it&#8217;s 5.30 instead of 7.30 was a whole lot of public reaction, including NZ, but also on behalf of the little kids and the afternoon BBQ folk that resisted the TV ratings being put ahead of the little people.</p>
<p>The move to 5pm or 5.30 or 5.15pm&#8230;..I&#8217;m still confused about when it was meant to start&#8230;&#8230;.and so it seems was GTV 9&#8230;&#8230;.but, in reality, the move by 2.5 hrs is not so much a direct move from 3pm, but, it first pushed out to 7.30 so moved by 4.5 hours and then got pulled back&#8230;&#8230;..after the &#8216;sell out&#8217; which was the 4.5 hr shift.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael C</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222230</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 19:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The case for &#039;national&#039; is biased by the NRL being strongest in just 2 states that happen to comprise over 50% of the national population.

This then becomes a matter of demographic semantics I guess, a bit like Foxtel ratings where the NRL is strongest - - in no small part due to NSW being the biggest state, an NRL state and having the deepest penetration on real and relative scales of foxtel subscription.  

Given all the points of distinction - - i.e. the NRL GF being played at a much more ratings friendly time slot and on a weekend with no other sport up against it - - the galling thing is people trying to read too much into the figures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The case for &#8216;national&#8217; is biased by the NRL being strongest in just 2 states that happen to comprise over 50% of the national population.</p>
<p>This then becomes a matter of demographic semantics I guess, a bit like Foxtel ratings where the NRL is strongest &#8211; - in no small part due to NSW being the biggest state, an NRL state and having the deepest penetration on real and relative scales of foxtel subscription.  </p>
<p>Given all the points of distinction &#8211; - i.e. the NRL GF being played at a much more ratings friendly time slot and on a weekend with no other sport up against it &#8211; - the galling thing is people trying to read too much into the figures.</p>
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		<title>By: Karlos</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222185</link>
		<dc:creator>Karlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oikee, K-Hunt is free promotion for NRL. Same mistake the ARU has made time and time again. The hardest, toughest, most skillfull and athletic footballers play NRL. The game demands it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oikee, K-Hunt is free promotion for NRL. Same mistake the ARU has made time and time again. The hardest, toughest, most skillfull and athletic footballers play NRL. The game demands it.</p>
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		<title>By: Karlos</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222183</link>
		<dc:creator>Karlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey WCR, not a debate ARU fans need to concern themselves with for the foreseeable future. Didn&#039;t 440,000 watch last Wallabies Test?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey WCR, not a debate ARU fans need to concern themselves with for the foreseeable future. Didn&#8217;t 440,000 watch last Wallabies Test?</p>
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		<title>By: Karlos</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222180</link>
		<dc:creator>Karlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The figures for both AFL and NRL are reported higher or lower depending on where you get them from (i.e. 7 and 9 seem to up thier numbers and quote Oztam and Oztam seems to change its mind occasionally). I have grown to trust Free TV Australia for my ratings as they show top 40 Metro, Regional and Combined ratings and don&#039;t appear to have any bias. I did a count of week 2 and 3 of the finals series ratings for AFL and NRL (AFL Regional scores were too low in regional Aus for week 1 to make top 40) with the NRL coming out on top with an extra 738,000 viewers. They however do not include Tasmania and Northern Territory.Tasmanians obviously are going to favour AFL and NT would be about an equal split. I cross reference with Media Spy and Ratings TV Tonight to get a fairer overview and dig deeper if there are discrepencies between those 3 sources. 

I have yet to get the NRL Grand Final figures from Free TV Australia, but believe from my other 2 sources that the metro figures are 2,416,000 (which is lower than quotes elsewhere). I think we are squabbling about a few tens of thousands here or there when it comes to facts and figures, but most NRL supporters are sick of the headlines each year about how the AFL GF is the biggest football code sporting event Australia wide and dwarfs the NRL GF and yet only talk about metro numbers when many of the NRL teams are from regional Australia. It is only recently journos started talking regional figures at all (metrocentric) and that is only because they were enlightened by grassroots bloggers. 

So my Metro ratings for AFL GF are 2,704,000 and for NRL at this point 2,416,000. BOTH codes and channels have upped their ratings in other publications. To quote The Australian is a big mistake. Thier attitude to Rugby League was clearly shown with no mention whatsoever at the top of page 1 of the last Weekend Australian. Plenty the week before for the AFL and that has gone on for years. Sorry if I am repeating what someone else has already said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The figures for both AFL and NRL are reported higher or lower depending on where you get them from (i.e. 7 and 9 seem to up thier numbers and quote Oztam and Oztam seems to change its mind occasionally). I have grown to trust Free TV Australia for my ratings as they show top 40 Metro, Regional and Combined ratings and don&#8217;t appear to have any bias. I did a count of week 2 and 3 of the finals series ratings for AFL and NRL (AFL Regional scores were too low in regional Aus for week 1 to make top 40) with the NRL coming out on top with an extra 738,000 viewers. They however do not include Tasmania and Northern Territory.Tasmanians obviously are going to favour AFL and NT would be about an equal split. I cross reference with Media Spy and Ratings TV Tonight to get a fairer overview and dig deeper if there are discrepencies between those 3 sources. </p>
<p>I have yet to get the NRL Grand Final figures from Free TV Australia, but believe from my other 2 sources that the metro figures are 2,416,000 (which is lower than quotes elsewhere). I think we are squabbling about a few tens of thousands here or there when it comes to facts and figures, but most NRL supporters are sick of the headlines each year about how the AFL GF is the biggest football code sporting event Australia wide and dwarfs the NRL GF and yet only talk about metro numbers when many of the NRL teams are from regional Australia. It is only recently journos started talking regional figures at all (metrocentric) and that is only because they were enlightened by grassroots bloggers. </p>
<p>So my Metro ratings for AFL GF are 2,704,000 and for NRL at this point 2,416,000. BOTH codes and channels have upped their ratings in other publications. To quote The Australian is a big mistake. Thier attitude to Rugby League was clearly shown with no mention whatsoever at the top of page 1 of the last Weekend Australian. Plenty the week before for the AFL and that has gone on for years. Sorry if I am repeating what someone else has already said.</p>
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		<title>By: Billo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222162</link>
		<dc:creator>Billo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 13:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There seems to be some fairly pointless debate about the size of the TV audience watching the respective Grand Finals.
In AFL there is a case for saying that the TV audience was particularly high because the GF was clearly going to be played between the best two sides all year in the comp. It was a real showdown.
In the NRL the audience was clearly helped by having Melbourne in the GF, as the figures show.
In both codes the audience size will vary, depending on the two teams in the GF.
Sharks v Roosters, in the NRL, or Kangaroos v Demons in the AFL, probably wouldn&#039;t rate quite so highly, for example.
What is really interesting, from the NRL point of view, is that the Storm finally seem to have some degree of grudging acceptance in Melbourne, and a significant number of AFL fans are prepared to watch and admire them, if only on TV.
The previous outright hostility seems to be abating.
It bodes well for them when they will at last have a stadium worthy of their playing standards in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There seems to be some fairly pointless debate about the size of the TV audience watching the respective Grand Finals.<br />
In AFL there is a case for saying that the TV audience was particularly high because the GF was clearly going to be played between the best two sides all year in the comp. It was a real showdown.<br />
In the NRL the audience was clearly helped by having Melbourne in the GF, as the figures show.<br />
In both codes the audience size will vary, depending on the two teams in the GF.<br />
Sharks v Roosters, in the NRL, or Kangaroos v Demons in the AFL, probably wouldn&#8217;t rate quite so highly, for example.<br />
What is really interesting, from the NRL point of view, is that the Storm finally seem to have some degree of grudging acceptance in Melbourne, and a significant number of AFL fans are prepared to watch and admire them, if only on TV.<br />
The previous outright hostility seems to be abating.<br />
It bodes well for them when they will at last have a stadium worthy of their playing standards in 2010.</p>
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		<title>By: captain nemo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222155</link>
		<dc:creator>captain nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:56:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sterlo would be the most respected of them all without a doubt. If this Smith gives it to Sterlo, then he is just craving attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sterlo would be the most respected of them all without a doubt. If this Smith gives it to Sterlo, then he is just craving attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Working Class Rugger</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222149</link>
		<dc:creator>Working Class Rugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here we go. Another GF viewership war. Maybe the NRL and AFL should settle this once and for all. I would suggest that next year both hold their respective GF&#039;s on the same day and at the same time that way everyone will know and this arguement over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here we go. Another GF viewership war. Maybe the NRL and AFL should settle this once and for all. I would suggest that next year both hold their respective GF&#8217;s on the same day and at the same time that way everyone will know and this arguement over.</p>
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		<title>By: westy</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222131</link>
		<dc:creator>westy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 11:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael C i only put forward some television ratings not to begin some comparison but simply to address the central issue of the article. The NRL has a better case for the &quot;national &quot; in its name on the basis of its Australian television audience then any other measure.
Redb I am quite prepared to acknowledge the regional viewers of AFL in WA and SA . This is relevent to a comparison between AFL and NRL. This was not my premise nor did i think I made it one. The national television audience give the NRL more credibility on the &quot;national &#039; than anything else.
Comparison of regional audiences between codes was not my intent.
To Keeper 11 thankyou for your response. Noted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael C i only put forward some television ratings not to begin some comparison but simply to address the central issue of the article. The NRL has a better case for the &#8220;national &#8221; in its name on the basis of its Australian television audience then any other measure.<br />
Redb I am quite prepared to acknowledge the regional viewers of AFL in WA and SA . This is relevent to a comparison between AFL and NRL. This was not my premise nor did i think I made it one. The national television audience give the NRL more credibility on the &#8220;national &#8216; than anything else.<br />
Comparison of regional audiences between codes was not my intent.<br />
To Keeper 11 thankyou for your response. Noted.</p>
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		<title>By: skull</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-2/#comment-222117</link>
		<dc:creator>skull</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:37:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>not after whatthey did to him. Fatty now lives on the gold coast and his son plays with the Titans. Try again</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>not after whatthey did to him. Fatty now lives on the gold coast and his son plays with the Titans. Try again</p>
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		<title>By: Boris the Mudcrab</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222115</link>
		<dc:creator>Boris the Mudcrab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 10:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>League has made some decent inroads into Melbourne although we all know that it will never be the No1 sport in Vic. League&#039;s best hope is to emulate the Swans and find a comfortable niche in the Market. 
It seems to me that the market is being squeezed and Soccer &amp; Union in Australia seem to be suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>League has made some decent inroads into Melbourne although we all know that it will never be the No1 sport in Vic. League&#8217;s best hope is to emulate the Swans and find a comfortable niche in the Market.<br />
It seems to me that the market is being squeezed and Soccer &amp; Union in Australia seem to be suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: Timmuh</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222097</link>
		<dc:creator>Timmuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:16:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Of course Nine were behind Parramatta. They knew nobody in Melbourne would be watching, so they played up to their viewer base.</description>
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		<title>By: Dogs Of War</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-2/#comment-222070</link>
		<dc:creator>Dogs Of War</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 08:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well Channel 7 buried soccer to please the AFL, and that ain&#039;t no lie...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Channel 7 buried soccer to please the AFL, and that ain&#8217;t no lie&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bulldog</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-2/#comment-222062</link>
		<dc:creator>Bulldog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fatty Vautin</description>
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		<title>By: Mick from Giralang</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222034</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick from Giralang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:43:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I should have added there are strong forces within the game working towards a commission-type set up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have added there are strong forces within the game working towards a commission-type set up.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222032</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And it&#039;s not that I have a problem with Victoria being the centre of our &quot;Great Australian Game&quot; (TM Pip) but the hypocrisy is what does me in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And it&#8217;s not that I have a problem with Victoria being the centre of our &#8220;Great Australian Game&#8221; (TM Pip) but the hypocrisy is what does me in.</p>
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		<title>By: Mick from Giralang</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222029</link>
		<dc:creator>Mick from Giralang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:31:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael C: You hit the nail on the head there. At the moment rugby league is not master of its own destiny unlike the AFL. An independent commission runningthe game would be a huge boost for the future of the sport.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael C: You hit the nail on the head there. At the moment rugby league is not master of its own destiny unlike the AFL. An independent commission runningthe game would be a huge boost for the future of the sport.</p>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222027</link>
		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone keeps mentioning this M.C,  Yes but your geelong and St kilda dont mention melbounre in the name. Hence the Storm is worth more to Melbounre. Anyhow, you can argue the toss about that. 
I will just say this, ITS Official, League has outdone the AFL in veiwer figures. Yippppeeee!!!!!   Story about it on the backpage tonite. Whoaaaaaa hoooooooe... :)  Sorry, nearly went into a coma. Not that i am bragging, :)  :)  :)

All those people in Melbourne , hehe trying to pump up the veiwers ratings, hehe. We beat you, hands down. 
Take your medcine. As Rabbits would say, blue tablet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone keeps mentioning this M.C,  Yes but your geelong and St kilda dont mention melbounre in the name. Hence the Storm is worth more to Melbounre. Anyhow, you can argue the toss about that.<br />
I will just say this, ITS Official, League has outdone the AFL in veiwer figures. Yippppeeee!!!!!   Story about it on the backpage tonite. Whoaaaaaa hoooooooe&#8230; <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Sorry, nearly went into a coma. Not that i am bragging, <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>All those people in Melbourne , hehe trying to pump up the veiwers ratings, hehe. We beat you, hands down.<br />
Take your medcine. As Rabbits would say, blue tablet.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222026</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because the Australian FL is so democratic. Just signed a deal to keep the grand final at the MCG until 2032 was it.

The reason it&#039;s 5:30pm instead of 7:30pm is becasue of NZ. 

The old traditional time for a game of Rugby elague is 3:00 pm sunday. Moving it by two 2 1/2 hours for TV purposes isn&#039;t that much of a sell out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because the Australian FL is so democratic. Just signed a deal to keep the grand final at the MCG until 2032 was it.</p>
<p>The reason it&#8217;s 5:30pm instead of 7:30pm is becasue of NZ. </p>
<p>The old traditional time for a game of Rugby elague is 3:00 pm sunday. Moving it by two 2 1/2 hours for TV purposes isn&#8217;t that much of a sell out.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-4/#comment-222024</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:24:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, really it should be mandatory that people watch both :)

Must admit though I often miss the AFL one but I would obey the law if it was passed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, really it should be mandatory that people watch both <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Must admit though I often miss the AFL one but I would obey the law if it was passed.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyRoo</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222023</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyRoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 06:22:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hinds yes but Smith no and many other people on this thread have made the same argument about the same two points.</description>
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		<title>By: oikee</title>
		<link>http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/05/just-how-national-is-the-nrl/comment-page-3/#comment-222001</link>
		<dc:creator>oikee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 05:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Like that one Redb,  :) Well its probably true to most young league fans, if you mentioned Roy Masters, they would think he was a tennis player, or golf player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like that one Redb,  <img src='http://cdn0.theroar.com.au/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Well its probably true to most young league fans, if you mentioned Roy Masters, they would think he was a tennis player, or golf player.</p>
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