Confidential email from Deans to his boss
By LeftArmSpinner, 7 Oct 2009 LeftArmSpinner is a Roar Guru
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I am in receipt of a confidential email to John O’Neill from Robbie Deans, dated 20th September 2009. Here it is.
Dear John,
I am sitting on the plane back to Sydney after the appalling performance last night. I wanted to give you a heads up of my opinion of the situation. I again confirm that my brief is explicitly to change the culture of the Wallabies, fundamentally and in the long term.
Just to be clear, I know and share your opinion that the Wallabies are or should be Australia’s premier national team. We play in a truly global sport.
In 6 World Cups, the Wallabies have amassed two RWC victories, one runner up and one appearance in the semi finals and quarter finalists in the other two. The Wallabies have invariably done this by punching above their weight and on the back of some very driven, competitive and clever people like Bob Dwyer, Michael Lynagh, John Eales and Rod McQueen.
Further, the Wallabies are a strong and valuable world brand with a long and wonderful heritage. We have a very sustainable, (but not unlimited) financial model.
In retrospect, it has taken me longer than I expected to realise the scale of the problem and hence the challenge you gave me in early 2008.
The Wallabies overall underperformance since the Eddie Jones era, peppered by the odd stand out performances such as the comprehensive defeat of the current world champions in Brisbane this year.
It is now clear to me that I misinterpreted and misdiagnosed the team’s overall performance. In hindsight, and having worked through all the typical sporting team malaises such as lack of fitness, loss of form, rebuilding, re-skilling, lack of concentration or combinations taking time to click, the players words and actions don’t match.
In the past 21 months myself and the coaching team removed all other excuses and now realise that the Wallabies players are simply not behaving or playing like a team that was representing its country. The current players don’t care enough. They are encouraged to take this attitude by the CEO of RUPA.
With two years until the RWC 2011, it is time to return to the basics of national team that is built around an important, common goal, a never say die competitive nature and overwhelming pride in both the jersey and being given the opportunity to represent one’s country.
Assumptions:
1. If a player is not part of the solution, i.e. not adding to the new culture, he will not be selected until he shows that he is part of the solution.
2. New players will continue to be given their chance to show that they have the necessary attitude.
3. You are only as good as your last game.
Finally, I am still of the opinion that we can win the RWC in 2011 but we will only do it if the culture changes. To that end, I am proposing to take what some might consider drastic steps to remove the old culture.
I again confirm my full commitment to the ARU and the Wallabies.
Here is the squad that will most likely step onto the plane to Japan.
Regards,
Robbie Deans
CC David Nucifora
Back three
1 James O’Connor (Western Force), Yes
2 Lachie Turner (NSW Waratahs), Yes
3 Kurtley Beale (NSW Waratahs), Yes
4 Drew Mitchell (Western Force), no
5 Digby Ioane (Queensland Reds), yes
6 Nick Cummins (Western Force), yes
7 Peter Hynes (Queensland Reds), Yes
Centres
8 Ryan Cross (Western Force), Yes
9 Stirling Mortlock (Brumbies), no (Replace with Tom Carter)
10 Rob Horne (NSW Waratahs), Yes
11 Adam Ashley-Cooper (Brumbies), Yes
Fly halves
12 Matt Giteau (Western Force), No
13 Quade Cooper (Queensland Reds), Yes
14 Berrick Barnes (Queensland Reds), Yes
Half backs
15 Josh Valentine (Western Force), No
16 Will Genia (Queensland Reds), Yes
17 Luke Burgess (NSW Waratahs), Yes
18 Richard Kingi (Queensland Reds), Yes
Backrows
19 Wycliff Palu (NSW Waratahs), yes
20 George Smith (Brumbies), No
21 David Pocock (Western Force), yes
22 Phil Waugh (NSW Waratahs), Yes Dirt tracker captain
23 Stephen Hoiles (Brumbies), Yes
24 Matt Hodgson (Western Force), Yes
25 Rocky Elsom (Brumbies), Yes Captain
26 Dean Mumm (NSW Waratahs), Yes
27 Richard Brown (Western Force), Yes
28 Mitchell Chapman (Brumbies), Yes
Locks
29 Ben McCalman (Sydney University, unsigned), Yes
30 Mark Chisholm (Brumbies), No
31 James Horwill (Queensland Reds), Yes
32 Nathan Sharpe (Western Force), no
33 Dave Dennis (NSW Waratahs), Yes
Props
34 Al Baxter (NSW Waratahs), No
35 Matt Dunning (NSW Waratahs), No
36 Pekahou Cowan (Western Force), yes
37 Sekope Kepu (NSW Waratahs), Yes
38 Salesi Ma’afu (Brumbies), yes
39 Ben Alexander (Brumbies), Yes
40 Benn Robinson (NSW Waratahs), Yes
Hookers
41 Damien Fitzpatrick (NSW Waratahs), Yes
42 Stephen Moore (Brumbies), Yes
43 Tatafu Polota-Nau (NSW Waratahs). Yes
PS, it came to me in my dreams!
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Knives Out said | October 7th 2009 @ 2:27am | Report comment
I think you missed out the part where Deans accepts personal guilt. Do the players have to accept responsibility but not Deans? What a farcical attitude.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:40am | Report comment
knives, read it again. he does, in his inimitable style, albeit through a curtian of disbelief that a national team could be so uninspired.
Knives Out said | October 8th 2009 @ 12:15am | Report comment
No. Total cop out. “Führerprinzip” – this type of ideology is not cool. You need to get some perspective, Lefty, and consider some key points:
1. What is the Wallaby tactic? What type of brand has Deans forged? Initially he took on a one-dimensional kicking game which won some close games in Europe last year (but was epically horrible to watch) and now that game is coming undone big time. Nearly all major nations have show improvement: France, Wales, England, SA and Ireland. Deans has so much time in camp with his players – what is going on? Where is the variation?
2. Why are some players worse than they were last year? Take Burgess as a key example. Where is the skill development?You moan about the players but what players has Deans helped improve?
3. Why are you so unwilling to criticise Deans selections: Smith at 8, Tahu at 12, Barnes at 12, Baxter at 3 etc..
It can’t be one way traffic all the time.
Knives Out said | October 8th 2009 @ 12:33am | Report comment
At least they’re not as uninspired as this article… This sort of Fuhrerprinzip ideology is not cool, not to mention wildly hypocritical. Deans has a lot to answer for, which you don’t seem to understand. Or more likely that you don’t want to understand.
Knives Out said | October 8th 2009 @ 6:49am | Report comment
Excuse me, LAS. Delayed post, hence the doubling up.
mother teresa said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:34pm | Report comment
exactly KO ;I JUST ABOUT VOMITED WITH THE SELF SERVING DRIVEL;BLAME the players and rupa ceo but never the imprudent selections/tactics and preparation.if oneill had not picked deans he would be history
deans has hardly been inspirational;blame the cattle
Knives Out said | October 8th 2009 @ 12:34am | Report comment
I hope you haven’t contracted swine flu from the article, MT.
sheek said | October 8th 2009 @ 5:07pm | Report comment
So mum tess,
Who’d you have as national coach? If you’re going to blame Deans, at least provide an alternative….. & why!
cookee said | October 8th 2009 @ 8:32pm | Report comment
sheek;you cant be happy with deans % wins i agree wit mt and ko
sheek said | October 8th 2009 @ 9:14pm | Report comment
cookee,
If we’re going to blame Deans, then who’s the alternative?
That’s what I’m asking. It’s easy to blame the incumbent, but could anyone else had done better?
I mean, seriously, without speculating?
In 1978, Jack Gibson when coaching Souths Rabbitohs, failed for the first time to take a team into the semis.
This despite being in between premiership wins with Easts 74-75 & Parramatta 81-83; GF with Saints in 71; & Semis with Easts 67-68, 76; Saints 70 & 72; & Newtown 73.
Did this one poor season with Souths make Gibson a dud coach? Hardly!
Prior to becoming the Wallabies’ coach, Deans’ coaching record was exempolary. In 2009 he’s having a poor year. Does this make him, & him alone, the dud???
Frankly, I think this is a mostly self-absorbed, selfish bunch of Wallabies. The sooner half of them are cleaned out, the better.
cookee said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:35pm | Report comment
deans “unique” style needs huge overhaul ;the curtain of disbelief speaks more of failure to appreciate culture after 2 years and inability to reach the players.maybe deans style doesnt bring the best out of the senior players or the strategies dont complement the players strengths.
giteau must be demotivated with criticism but oconnor can do no wrong.incongruous.
the carnival is over and respect is not mutual
Mr cheese said | October 7th 2009 @ 2:50am | Report comment
I think they should bring John Eales in to coach the team.
Seriously, that bloke is a legend. He doesn’t sound like a second row forward, but he does look like one and he was a great success. Aussie egg-chasing seems to be dominated by people who ain’t really interested.
Sad.
Campbell Watts said | October 7th 2009 @ 2:18pm | Report comment
Does anyone listen to this twat?
Mr cheese said | October 8th 2009 @ 12:39am | Report comment
John Eales ?
I listen to him, yes. I think he’s well worth listening to.
sheek said | October 8th 2009 @ 9:17pm | Report comment
Mr cheese,
John Eales was agreat rugby player & captain. This does not automatically qulaify him to be a great coach.
Seriously, do some of you guys think beyond skin-deep on these issues?
Paradox said | October 7th 2009 @ 5:37am | Report comment
Another dumb article. He takes the bloke who made the most tackles (ie, George Smith) out of the side. Poor analysis and top draw rubbish.
Knives Out said | October 7th 2009 @ 5:52am | Report comment
Interesting fact here – prior to the 2003 WC final the English coaches highlighted Larkham and Smith as defensive liabilities to target.
fox said | October 7th 2009 @ 7:13am | Report comment
Interesting fact – George Smith is the best openside flanker in the country. I doubt he’s a defensive liability. He wins more turnovers for the side than any other player. That’s priceless.
Knives Out said | October 8th 2009 @ 12:17am | Report comment
Interesting fact – being the best openside flanker in a country doesn’t equate with being the best technical tackler. I doubt that you know more than the England coaching panel of that period. You’re priceless. You see how that goes, fox? Calm down, man.
Chris said | October 7th 2009 @ 6:32pm | Report comment
What. Are you saying you would have got rid of Larkham in 03′. God, you really are delusional.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:43am | Report comment
paradox, geez, I give you the inside info and you call it another dumb article. Smith is not part of the solution and hence is prt of the problem.
the point is that it is clearly time to cut and cut deeply to remove the culture because the softly softly approach has not worked. smith is part of this, particularly as captain. this is not to say that he was not a fine player. and of course, if his replacement doesnt work, he can return with added motivation.
The Link said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:01am | Report comment
Smith goes missing in big games. A flat track bully. Bring back Phil Waugh.
Who Needs Melon said | October 7th 2009 @ 12:13pm | Report comment
I’m NOT calling this a ‘dumb article’ but I AM still a defender of George Smith.
George Smith is and always has been a ‘fetcher’. I think half the problem is that we have too many forwards who want to emulate him, McCaw and others and also be heroic ‘fetchers’… ALL the time. You watch the ABs and most of the time their first thought wasn’t to ‘pilfer’ the ball – even though they were on their feet, the first ones there weren’t trying to reach down and pick up the ball – they were just attaching themselves to one another, staying on their feet and driving the aussie forwards (if any were there) backwards. Once you’ve done that, you don’t need a ‘fetcher’ – all you need is a halfback!
mother teresa said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:54pm | Report comment
culture is huge and some coaches find different cultures too challenging;cant have the same style of coaching in different environments.deans has been slow to adjust .
others have called for change ,be it structure or discipline :why has it taken so long for the coach to see the obvious and why does this coach get preferential treatment
or is this brilliant article meant thru paradoxical intention to whet the appetite of the players
the players would be uncertain of position or tactics or leadership and i bet phil waugh comes back even tho deans prefers the obedience of the young ones;gosh he couldnt have handled the culture of this team worse and he expects them to be open to change;not clever
cookee said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:41pm | Report comment
deans approach then clearly hasnt worked and we need to”cut deeply” to remove the culture
what a marvellous misunderstanding of social architecture and shoddy preparation
anopinion said | October 7th 2009 @ 10:17pm | Report comment
He also plays Quade Cooper instead of Giteau. Very poor decision.
mcxd said | October 7th 2009 @ 6:58am | Report comment
interesting you should choose not to include Giteau, given this mornings article in the SMH (link folllows) it seems that you might be on to something.
http://www.rugbyheaven.com.au/news/news/wallabies-mull-taking-no10-off-unhappy-giteau/2009/10/06/1254701019509.html
…and we wonder why the wallbies attitude in games stinks lately ..its all about me attitude has to go, so farewell Gits.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:47am | Report comment
mcxd, with you all the way. the players are in control. if they really want to be in the team, they need to behave and perform like that. they, and in particular, the senior experienced players havent done this.
it is not the end of the world. look at the sportsmen who have been dropped: bradman, Waugh X 2, Hayden, ponting, martin,
Bay35Pablo said | October 7th 2009 @ 12:57pm | Report comment
LAS,
“the players are in control”
I blame the Brumbies. For everything. Ever.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 4:39pm | Report comment
pablo, there is participating in the decision making and being in control. being in control is only when the coach cedes control. I’m all for including the players in decisions but ……..not beiung in control.
sheek said | October 8th 2009 @ 9:18pm | Report comment
………. since 1996 anyway………. !
Jameswm said | October 7th 2009 @ 7:51am | Report comment
True – it could be Growden’s imagination, but if being moved to 12 for the benefit of the team is getting Gits down, then shove off.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:49am | Report comment
james, exactly. ego is a dirty word in a team sport. gits, either play to a world class standard or suffer the consequences. No more greganesque dumming spitting. the team and the jersey and the responsibility comes first.
that also goes for Dempsey, not that I expect that message to get through.
Brett McKay said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:10am | Report comment
Leftie, have “Robbie Deans” and “Mrs O’Neill” ever been seen in the same dream?!?
btw, we confirmed this the last time his name came up, Ben McCalman will be with the Force next year…
reds fan said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:21am | Report comment
But the squad announcements use this years contracts. Hence I still have to put up with Barnes being called a Reds player.
sittingbison said | October 9th 2009 @ 2:06am | Report comment
and mitchell force
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:56am | Report comment
brett, well spotted. I had initially proposed to the roar editing panel, a Dear Greg letter from “Mrs O’Neilll”. It got a no, so i tried to slip it in as a comment, having done a lot of work writing it. I think it got pulled. damn and blast.
so, in another form, here is the Robbie deans email. I dont dream of Mrs O’Neill, so JON, you dont need to worry. It is a fallow period at the moment in sport now that the festival of the boot is over. I cant underdstand why the Wallabies are not playing through this window. The policy of rest, while logical, has clearly not worked in practice. Just look at how the NRL boys rip in.
As regards McCalman, I cut and pasted the team from fox sports. It is amazing that such a mistake could get through.
Finally, Brett, I suspect that some of the above comments are based on the email being real!!!! Oh dear.
Brett McKay said | October 7th 2009 @ 11:40am | Report comment
Leftie, maybe the assumption is that it’s Oct 7, not Apr 1, therefore email = true….
By the way, great piece mate, a very good read as usual.
Brett McKay said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:26am | Report comment
Reds, it seems to have chopped and changed, some use this years, some use next years. Elsom is listed on most as a Brumbies player, presumably becuase they couldn’t stand to see “Leinster” listed. I honestly can’t remember what’s on the ARU list.. Anyway, semantics really….
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 8:58am | Report comment
reds and Brett, the point is that many of them shouldnt be wallabies or on the wallabies tour……………..until they wake up to themselves.
Vented Relief said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:01am | Report comment
I think you’ve given Drew Mitchell a hard rap. I know he’s made mistakes (some crucial). I know he’s got pretty hair and must therefore not love playing for his country. But I think he’s one of the few wingers this season who has tried things and backed himself. I for one would prefer Hynes on the wing as I think his all round game is one of the best in the world. But I do believe Mitchell has heart and talent and deserves a spot in the squad.
Happy with most of your other choices. Not sure about Cummins. He’s a good player sure, but he’s barely played one season of S14 and hasn’t consistently shown he deserves a test call up.
Also don’t know what we’re going to do come lineout time with the three locks you’ve chosen. Very inexperienced and very targetable. Keep sharpey there I say…. at least for this tour to help develop the up and comers.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:27am | Report comment
Vented relief, first, how do you vent your relief or shouldnt I ask???
He arrived with a big bang on the scene, scored lots of tries and was very involved. then, he went quiet, by his own admission, he didnt do the training and lost the passion.
HE regrouped, got bigger and was again selected, having a good RWC 2007. But since then, it has been bad old Mitchell. A team cannot function with players being so inconsistent.
There is no doubt that he has the ability. but the same can be said of many players in the current team, whose record is 1/6.
It has been observed previously that many new wallabies arrive with great fanfare, a few good games and no further development………..
Accountability: thats the name of the game.
Vented Relief said | October 7th 2009 @ 10:00am | Report comment
Then why are you sticking with Horwill? He came onto the scene in the same manner, played his butt off last season and this season has been a total disappointment. Why give him another chance? Particularly when Sharpe has outplayed him in virtually every test this year?
I am of the opinion that players like this need to be given more than one chance, particularly in Aus rugby where there is precious little talent available to replace these guys. Pick them on this tour, give them equal game time with the up-and-comers and see who performs better. Simple as that. But don’t drop them from the tour for players who they were consistently outplaying during the S14 comp (to wit: Mitchell vs Cummins).
Andrew Logan said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:45am | Report comment
Several years ago I played club rugby in a team which was heading for the semis and eventually won the grand final. During the second half of the season when things were getting tight at the top of the table, we had a horror run with injury and lost 3 of the top centres in the club, leading to all sorts of selection conundrums. Who would play centre? Did we move a flanker out into the centres?
Finally one of the coaches suggested a left field replacement – a 4th grade hooker who was 40-something, but had a league background and could run and tackle hard. The other selectors went to this player and asked how he felt about moving up a few grades and playing in the centres. His answer? No hesitation, just a simple…
“Whatever is required”.
He played. Had a stormer. We won. And all because one guy put the big picture ahead of what could have been an embarrassing experiment for him. Since then I’ve always looked for that attribute in players….the “whatever is required” attitude.
Memo Matt Giteau…..
Invictus said | October 7th 2009 @ 10:18am | Report comment
Reminds me of an interview with Dan Herbert, when there were three contenders for the wallabies OC spot, about his opinion on playing out of position. The reply was simple “I’ll play where I’m picked”.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 11:02am | Report comment
and by play, he meant Smash ‘em!!!! all day long.
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 10:59am | Report comment
andrew, spot on. this “attribute” has been widely discussed but never put as succinctly as you put it. Its not a league thing, its about the player, whats his motivation, ego, money, glory, the team and then the lengths that he will go to to achieve it.
Just a theory, but maybe it is because league players are much easier to watch in isolation. most of the action is one out, one on one. You flinch at the line, in either attack or defence and the weakness will be exploited.
There are plenty of players in union with that same attitude, Eales, Horan, Melon, Kefu, NFJ, and of the current batch, just Barnes, Robinson, Elsom, TPN, Alexander, Genia, and I would add Carter and Davidson but they are not touring.
These guys tend to be highly competitive on the field but dont take themselves very seriously off the field. Eales recently played in a celebrity netball game. great fun.
Hammer said | October 7th 2009 @ 11:41am | Report comment
Why would you expect Giteau to react any differently … this has been the Aussie way for a long time – senior players have held sway and he’s just learnt the habit … Deans has got a hard struggle breaking what has been ingrained over a very very long time …
as for trying to improve players now (Horwell, Mitchell, Turner, Burgess etc) there’s zero incentive to change their game or improve their skill set – they’ve cracked the Wallabies and continue to be selected with their inherent flaws … the system rewards them without the need for them to put the work in
LeftArmSpinner said | October 7th 2009 @ 3:56pm | Report comment
hammer, exactly so treat him as you would any other person. tell him what you want from him, if he delivers, good. if he doesnt, ciao.
Burgess is more a crisis in confidence and lack of form. but he is now under pressure from genia and Kingi so that is good. I hope he bounces back.