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I’ve never met Craig Wing before, and I don’t know if he’s always like this, but the one thing that struck me about him was how positive and excited he is about his football.
It’s a refreshing change in this day when you talk to lots of players who are so guarded that they are positively boring and you come away wondering how the hell you’ll craft a story out of the dreck you got served up.
Luckily Wing isn’t in that category, although to be fair it might have something to do with him being between codes, between bosses and pretty much on holiday until January next year when he reports for duty with the NTT Communications rugby team in Japan.
His glittering NRL career is now officially over, courtesy of a last gasp win over the hapless Sharks, where Wing scored a try, got an assist and missed a conversion right at the end.
As Wing himself put it: “You don’t play too many games like that, that end up being that way so I was pretty happy with the final washup. I missed the conversion though at the end, so I was pretty disappointed. I struck it so well! Nearly kicked it out of the park, but I missed it!”.
Was he disappointed that Souths didn’t do better in the last couple of seasons?
“Yeah, very much so. There were so many games that we were in a position to win or we really could have won and we performed poorly – and then there were games where we were expected to do it tough or lose and we smashed ‘em. The talent was definitely there, but I guess it’s more mental than anything when you get results like that”.
“We always trained really well. There was never a period of time when we didn’t train well. It was just how we turned up on the day. We didn’t have a team where 4 or 5 blokes couldn’t turn up but the rest would carry them through. We had a team where if we were all on, we were a great team, but if a few of us weren’t then it cost us”.
Souths up and down record has left the jury out on former coach Jason Taylor’s reign, but Wing has few doubts about Taylor’s ability as a coach.
“What I liked was that he was always learning and always looking for alternate solutions to different problems. He wasn’t afraid to look at what we were doing and overhaul the whole thing if he thought there was a better way.
“The biggest difference in him was from last year to this year.
“We lost I think 10 in a row last year and then started to win a couple at the end, well I was injured then and I was watching what he was going through. There were different phases there when he was evaluating what we were doing and asking were we doing the right things, could we be doing something else or more of something or less of something.
“He kept tinkering and tinkering with it and it started to come good at the end of the year and then our off season was totally different to the year before. As a result we started the year quite well I thought.”
“I know the fact that we didn’t make the finals doesn’t look too good, but what’s overlooked is that most of the players, particularly the younger guys, are much better footballers now. They have a much better understanding of what it takes to play first grade, what their position involves and everything like that.”
“Souths are on the rise. Since I’ve been there I’ve seen a gradual improvement and I think next year they might make the finals. I think if JT was there, they would have had every chance”.
Whether Souths do well next year is a moot point for Wing at least given that he is no longer a league player.
But he will leave the game with a swag of great memories and will be remembered by many fans as a player who was unlucky to be pigeonholed as a utility, or not given more of a chance as a genuine playmaker.
Typically though, Wing concentrates only on the positives when asked about his memories, and you can hear the satisfaction in his voice.
“Of course, I remember my debut when I first started, although I didn’t do too much in my first year but it was great to be playing first grade. Then the glory years at the Roosters of course. They’re probably the best years of my life.
“We were such a tight knit group of blokes, we all lived in the area then, whereas towards the back end of my time there were guys living all over the place, at Cronulla and Campbelltown even. Now people are so spread out because it is so expensive to live in the Eastern Suburbs.”
“But I just remember those years when we were allowed to have a drink and it was a big part of playing, that socializing afterwards. They’re definitely the best years that I can remember playing footy, purely because of the fact that we were so tight and we had so much fun.
“We played mostly Friday night games and we had Saturday and Sunday off so we kind of had similar lives like young guys growing up. It’d be easy to call a drink at the Beach Road or somewhere local and everyone would be there and you felt like the odd one out if you weren’t there.”
“That was a big part of our success, just being tight. I look at Melbourne and I think they are close to what we had back then. They’ve got the core group of players who stick together.”
It’s clear talking to Wing that he values the friendships he has made in rugby league, and that he is not only respected, but respectful of the players he has done battle with over the years.
“The player I most liked playing with was definitely Fitzy (Craig Fitzgibbon). I’ve always said that.
“I hold Fitzy in such high regard. He’s a great player and he’s so consistent and so reliable. Personally I think the Roosters could have been better to him – everyone talks about how old he is, but that’s only because he looks old.
“If you put him on the training paddock, he’s fitter than all the young guys, he trains harder than all the young guys, he’s more professional than anyone and when he’s on the field he’s always putting in. He’s one of the reliable ones. He’s so consistent – I can’t see why they wouldn’t have signed him for next year. I don’t understand it. He’s the type of guy they could build a team around.”
“As far as players where you knew it would be a tough night at the office, the obvious one is probably Joey (Andrew Johns) because the whole team had to be on their game, or he’d find you out somewhere. He’d find a hole or find a weakness, he had such a good football brain.
“Having said that, I enjoyed playing against him because we had a bit of a rivalry between Newcastle and the Roosters.”
“I always hoped for a starting Origin spot at hooker and so I always tried to play my best in City/Country against Danny Buderus. That was probably one of my best rivalries, against Bedsy, and even though I got a few man of the match awards against him, I was never going to get the spot, because he and Joey had the hooker/half combination going.
“But I remember those games and those confrontations fondly and during the tours I went on I always roomed with Bedsy and really enjoyed his company – he’s a great guy.”
“I also remember winning the Grand Final too – coming back to Bondi Junction on the double-decker bus and we couldn’t even get into the club it was so full.”
The reminiscing for Wing these days is not restricted to his league career though, but includes casting his mind back to the last time he played rugby, perhaps searching for a few old moves or techniques he can take with him to Japan.
“I started league when I was 4 years old and then played union when I was 6, and played both of them right through until the end of high school. Pretty much every time my contract came up, I seriously considered going back to union.
“Early on I never did because there was so much I wanted to do in league, but from about 2005 onwards I was thinking I wanted to go back to union. Unfortunately the game started changing then. It started to be a lot more about kicking and field position and kicking for goal, and it was a lot less like the game that I was used to playing when I was back at school.”
“I’m not too worried about the negativity around rugby at the moment. Maybe if I was going to a team here in Australia it would be different, but I’ve heard different reports about how they play in Japan. The game is a fair bit quicker I think. I’m really looking forward to it.”
And of course, like any good player worth his contract money, Wing is already scheming and dreaming about ways he can bring his vast league experience to bear in the union game.
“I watch games here in Australia and I see so much opportunity on the field. It’s so structured now, and yet there’s so much opportunity. Players don’t have the chance to play their hand and yet that’s what could really make things interesting.
“That’s what excites me going over there. I’ve got this rugby league experience and we play a certain way and I’ve done a few things differently. So I hope we can try a few new things about how we approach the game”.
“I’ve got a certain skill set that I hope I can pass on to the players over there. They have the 2019 World Cup over there, so every year they’ll be gearing towards that and putting a lot of effort into the player there and recruiting other players and working on the way they play”.
Is this Future Coach Craig Wing talking?
“Well I’ve been talking to Shannon Fraser a bit who’s the coach at NTT, and getting a bit excited and saying I’ve got so many ideas and so much stuff that I’d like to pass on and maybe toss it around. I’ve had some great coaches in the past and some coaches who have done well and haven’t done well, and I’ve seen some coaches go through different phases and how players react to that.”
“I don’t know what to expect, but I know that I’ve got so much knowledge and so much stuff that I’d like to pass on or use to our advantage.
“I’ve got so many ideas about how I’d like to play, although I don’t even know what position I’m going to play yet! I’m quite confident I can play anywhere in the backline but I’ll let them pick the position that they think suits me best.”
“I’m invigorated at the possibilities that might be out there and the effect I can have on the team and different ideas I can bring across from league to union.”
And if you want to know where this passion for innovation and running rugby came from, look no further than Wing’s formative years under Tony Hannon at Sydney High.
“I look at the game now, particularly the way it’s played in Australia and the way they play here is so GPS structured, you know, do this, do that, this-position-kick-it, get-to-there-run-it. I remember the year before me at Sydney High was supposed to be the best team we had had in years.
“I didn’t play because I would have had to give up all my other footy to play GPS firsts and I said stuff that, I’d rather keep playing league and union in all my other teams!”
“Anyway, my year came around and we were supposed to get flogged because all the good players and big forwards had left, but I remember I was a leaguie who played union as well with Randwick, and there were lots of kids who had public school backgrounds which is a different style of footy.
“I remember we used to play a public school style of game against GPS schools and in a year we were supposed to get beaten in every game in the GPS comp, we won our fair share and beat some good schools, probably because they didn’t know how to handle us.”
“We used to run the ball from our tryline, from different places. It was less about rucking and mauling and more about getting it out of the ruck and the maul and getting it to the backs as quickly as possible. Shifting the ball from side to side and moving it around and a lot less about positional kicking, just a less predictable game all round.”
Not that it didn’t get confusing at times.
“I remember one game when I was playing SG Ball for Souths and a lot of time I was coming from my Souths game to my school game and then playing. I used to take great pride in the fact that I used to wear my black Souths shorts, which were the silky nylon, in school games where everyone else used to wear traditional cotton rugby shorts!
“I even tried to play a game with Souths socks on once cause I literally got out of the car with my boots on and just swapped jumpers and tried to run on, but they wouldn’t let me! (laughs)”
“Even to this day, that year of football in my Year 12, when we were coached by Tony Hannon who was a great coach at High, was probably one of the most enjoyable years of football I’ve had.
“Just playing GPS football and playing rugby in that style, and I’ve always had in my mind since then that I’d like to play rugby again and try to emulate that kind of feeling.”
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Knives Out said | October 7th 2009 @ 6:01am | Report comment
Good article, Andrew. The format is a nice break from opinion based pieces.
Miguel Sanchez said | November 2nd 2009 @ 5:40pm | Report comment
If he played rugby league first at four, he was hardly going “back to” rah rah…
Brett McKay said | October 7th 2009 @ 7:29am | Report comment
Great stuff Andrew, just a pity we won’t get to see a lot of Wing “re-transitioning”. Unless of course the Sydney league hacks keep up this “see, we told you he’d carve up” mentality to NRL players playing rugby offshore (a la Gasnier, Williams reports that pop up regularly).
Nird99 said | October 7th 2009 @ 7:59am | Report comment
I can look through the ranks of current NRL players and see a few who would be ok and some that have the potential to do very well, and I think wing fits this category. He obviously thinks a lot about his game and the way that he can help the whole team, not just himself. He has at least some experience in union which i also think will hold him in good stead.
Thanks for the article Andrew, I have heard very little about wings transition to rugby and this was a good way to read about it.
Greg Russell said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:13am | Report comment
An awesome effort by Wing to be the star, along with Ryan Cross, of an Aust Schoolboys team that beat NZ in 1997 (something that didn’t happen again for a full decade) even though he was basically only playing rugby on a part-time basis that year (see the above). This shows just how much talent the guy had.
I also appreciated Wing’s praise for Craig Fitzgibbon. It’s always interesting to know who players really like to have by their side in the trenches. This is something only the players can say, not the media.
In this respect I always feel sorry for N Sharpe in rugby. A lot of media (e.g. Spiro) and fans slag him off, but players always say they want Sharpe on their side. (And yes, I have argued this to Spiro in person!)
Knives Out said | October 8th 2009 @ 12:28am | Report comment
I’ve always thought Sharpe was unfairly maligned. I recall a test versus Wales in Wales (Giteau was playing 9.) when Sharpe was controlling the Welsh response to the ruck contest basically single handed. What do people expect from modern locks? Botha has been dominated by Shaw on more than one occasion and yet is still the greatest lock ever (Yawn.), whilst Sharpe has a ‘quiet’ game (Aren’t locks playing well when they’re not obvious to the eye?) and he is the biggest wimp ever. Second rows are easy targets in my opinion.
AndyRoo said | October 7th 2009 @ 9:16am | Report comment
Better than 99% of player interviews. Right where most are wrapping up this kicked up a notch
Cheers for the good read.
Hoy said | October 7th 2009 @ 10:21am | Report comment
Scored a fantastic try that sticks to my mind from his first year at Souths I think. He made a great break, and then just had a fantastic step to stand up Peachey. Looked so good.
Always thought he was wasted at the Rooters. He was too good a ball player to be used as a dummy half runner, and I think it hurt his play.
Andrew Logan said | October 7th 2009 @ 11:21am | Report comment
The video is poor quality, but this clip shows just what he is capable of…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtObdsJrUpQ&feature=related
Hoy said | October 7th 2009 @ 12:35pm | Report comment
Thats the one. Brilliant movement.
spiro zavos said | October 7th 2009 @ 11:22am | Report comment
Andrew and Craig, thanks for a fascinating interview. I saw Craig play for that Sydney Boys High side, coached by Tony Hannon, where he scored a fantastic try against Sydney Grammar and Hannon told me that Craig was the best of the talented backs he’d had (Whitaker, Holbrook, McRae et al). Even, then, though Craig’s goal-kickking was poor and it always intriqued me that he didn’t put the work in to make himself a competent kicker. It would have done wonders for his league and union careers, as it did for Matt Burke in union who developed his kicking after leaving Joeys.
Craig has a very analytical rugby mind and seems to have remembered a lot from the various coaches he’s had in union and league. This suggests to me that he has a career in coaching after his playing days.
I notice too that the Phillippines have sounded him out about playing in the Commonwealth Games Sevens. I think before he accepts he should sound out the ARU about playing for Australia where his running, tackling and passing skills could turn the present struggling Australian Sevens side into a competitive outfit.
JimC said | October 7th 2009 @ 12:27pm | Report comment
The best Wallaby scrum half that never was.
His performances for the Kangaroos on a tough in the UK in 2003 were outstanding. Him Locky and Ricketson carried that team.
Andrew Logan said | October 7th 2009 @ 12:30pm | Report comment
Re Craig Wing playing for the Phillippines or Australia….he would be gold for any underrated Sevens outfit and would be ideal for Australia who just need one or two top line players to become competitive.
However, as I understand it, Sevens counts as international representation and means that a player can’t then represent another country. I also think that Craig’s Phillippines passport means that he is not counted as a foreigner or “alien” in Japan which means he could become eligible for their national side sooner rather than later? I’m uncertain about whether he needs to serve the 3 year requirement given that he has never played rugby union professionally, but he would certainly be able to become eligible for Japan at some stage.
Anyway, if he has designs on playing rugby for Japan at the 2011 World Cup, he would be better off staying out of the Commonwealth Games Sevens, particularly for the Phillippines as they don’t play the RWC finals. Sevens for Australia would put huge pressure on him to make the Wallabies in less than two years for the RWC, which is highly unlikely.
I’d love to see him play RWC for Japan as a flyhalf. The Japanese style of running rugby would be dangerous for plenty of teams with a quality playmaker like Wing pulling the strings.
True Tah said | October 7th 2009 @ 2:55pm | Report comment
Andrew
how could Wing play for the Phillippines at the Commonwealth Games, I dont believe they were ever a part of the Commonwealth?
Andrew Logan said | October 7th 2009 @ 3:01pm | Report comment
TT – I was simply running off Spiro’s call above. I haven’t checked to see if the Phillippines is in the Commonwealth – I was speaking theoretically.
*sigh*……Hang on…..(goes and checks Google)….Phillippines are not in the Commonwealth, at least according to the Wikipedia list of nations in the Games, so it is not a possibility.
As you were.