Comments on: Asian Player of the Year award is a farce http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/ Your Sports Opinion Fri, 10 Feb 2012 20:35:52 +0000 hourly 1 By: mahony http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-225003 mahony Mon, 12 Oct 2009 04:11:29 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-225003 I agree Pip - some dubious ones indeed. I too can understand the AFC preferencing its competitions. "The future may well be Asia" (to butcher a trademark) - but it is not the future yet, and Asian football needs to focus on reaching its potential. It should be the 2nd biggest confederation in 'football economy' terms within 15 years by passing South America (and arguably Africa if it gets its act together). Time will tell, and in the interim the AFC will continue to focus on its own patch at every step and with good reason IMO. I agree Pip – some dubious ones indeed. I too can understand the AFC preferencing its competitions. “The future may well be Asia” (to butcher a trademark) – but it is not the future yet, and Asian football needs to focus on reaching its potential. It should be the 2nd biggest confederation in ‘football economy’ terms within 15 years by passing South America (and arguably Africa if it gets its act together). Time will tell, and in the interim the AFC will continue to focus on its own patch at every step and with good reason IMO.

]]> By: Davidde Corran http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224737 Davidde Corran Sun, 11 Oct 2009 21:46:31 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224737 Pippinu, Yes you're absolutely right. The AFC have changed the rules on the award so that a player must be there to accept it. The problem with that being its in the middle of the European season (and for that matter many other seasons). This is because the award is linked with the East Asia football cycle. A systematic problem in Asia that's linked with the previous dominance of Japanese money from advertising in the game (think of all the advertising boards at ACL games). Personally I'm not too fussed how they set the award up as long as they change it. Something needs to give otherwise it'll just fall into oblivion. Pippinu,

Yes you’re absolutely right. The AFC have changed the rules on the award so that a player must be there to accept it. The problem with that being its in the middle of the European season (and for that matter many other seasons). This is because the award is linked with the East Asia football cycle. A systematic problem in Asia that’s linked with the previous dominance of Japanese money from advertising in the game (think of all the advertising boards at ACL games).

Personally I’m not too fussed how they set the award up as long as they change it. Something needs to give otherwise it’ll just fall into oblivion.

]]> By: Pippinu http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224551 Pippinu Sun, 11 Oct 2009 05:21:52 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224551 Davidde that's a fair enough point about the lack of clarity in terms of the criteria. I know another bugbear has been that the player must be available on the night to accept the award in person, or presumably, must forfeit all right to receive it. Given that there is a clear weighting to players performing within the region, it probably should become an award exclusively for such players (perhaps with another award for Asian players who earn a crust outside of the region). Davidde
that’s a fair enough point about the lack of clarity in terms of the criteria.

I know another bugbear has been that the player must be available on the night to accept the award in person, or presumably, must forfeit all right to receive it.

Given that there is a clear weighting to players performing within the region, it probably should become an award exclusively for such players (perhaps with another award for Asian players who earn a crust outside of the region).

]]> By: Ben of Phnom Penh http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224491 Ben of Phnom Penh Sun, 11 Oct 2009 01:37:33 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224491 It's not the Asian Player of the Year though is it? I thought it was AFC Player of the year. Josh Kennedy in with a chance next year along with Jason Culina. It’s not the Asian Player of the Year though is it? I thought it was AFC Player of the year. Josh Kennedy in with a chance next year along with Jason Culina.

]]> By: Davidde Corran http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224308 Davidde Corran Sat, 10 Oct 2009 13:13:56 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224308 Pippinu I think there's a problem with it because its such a mixed bag of an award. While technically anyone can win it, because of the way it is set up it favours one group and not others. If its going to be an award for Asian players who play their football in the region then it should only include such players. If its going to include all Asian players wherever they play club football then it should be weighted evenly between them. AndyRoo, you're right Chinese football is a debacle. There's genuine concern that there is governmental interference, recent corruption scandals, player and fan violence and of course the aforementioned debacle with Wuhan last season. It's not just promotion and relegation that is holding us back its the size of the league. When the ACL was restructured last year the A-League was still an 8 team competition. The rules state that no more then a third of a league's teams can be eligible. China get to keep their spots at this stage because there hasn't been a viable alternative. Freud, writers are at the mercy of their editors. They have the final say on how a piece is written, its heading and as in this case when it is run. Pippinu I think there’s a problem with it because its such a mixed bag of an award. While technically anyone can win it, because of the way it is set up it favours one group and not others.

If its going to be an award for Asian players who play their football in the region then it should only include such players.

If its going to include all Asian players wherever they play club football then it should be weighted evenly between them.

AndyRoo, you’re right Chinese football is a debacle. There’s genuine concern that there is governmental interference, recent corruption scandals, player and fan violence and of course the aforementioned debacle with Wuhan last season. It’s not just promotion and relegation that is holding us back its the size of the league.

When the ACL was restructured last year the A-League was still an 8 team competition. The rules state that no more then a third of a league’s teams can be eligible. China get to keep their spots at this stage because there hasn’t been a viable alternative.

Freud, writers are at the mercy of their editors. They have the final say on how a piece is written, its heading and as in this case when it is run.

]]> By: Pippinu http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224181 Pippinu Sat, 10 Oct 2009 04:07:43 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224181 On the face of it, it seems reasonable that the Asian player of the year is a player who earns the right via AFC sanctioned events. My beef is that players of very dubious distinction have ended up winning the award when there are so many stand out players within Asia itself. On the face of it, it seems reasonable that the Asian player of the year is a player who earns the right via AFC sanctioned events.

My beef is that players of very dubious distinction have ended up winning the award when there are so many stand out players within Asia itself.

]]> By: AndyRoo http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224106 AndyRoo Sat, 10 Oct 2009 00:36:19 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224106 I read the link you posted about the CSL club withdrawing because their player was suspended. What a farce. Do we really need promotion and relegation to get more than 2 spots when China have 4? I read the link you posted about the CSL club withdrawing because their player was suspended. What a farce.

Do we really need promotion and relegation to get more than 2 spots when China have 4?

]]> By: Alex http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224049 Alex Fri, 09 Oct 2009 21:53:26 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224049 Roooowww bitch. Haven't the claws come out? Roooowww bitch. Haven’t the claws come out?

]]> By: Freud of Football http://www.theroar.com.au/2009/10/10/asian-player-of-the-year-award-is-a-farce/comment-page-1/#comment-224013 Freud of Football Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:25:35 +0000 http://www.theroar.com.au/?p=24244#comment-224013 Sorry Davidde but Jesse Fink just wrote about the exact same thing on TWG, it's only interesting the first time really. Sorry Davidde but Jesse Fink just wrote about the exact same thing on TWG, it’s only interesting the first time really.

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